- 1 History of botany
- 2 Your GA nomination of History of botany
- 3 Barnstar
- 4 Hey you... please wake up
- 5 GA nominations
- 6 Anselme Riedlé
- 7 Your GA nomination of Félix Delahaye
- 8 Your GA nomination of Cultivar
- 9 Thank you for your thoughtful comments on Talk:Sustainability regarding File:Nested sustainability-v2.gif ... see Talk:Individual and political action on climate change
- 10 Autopatrolled
- 11 User-specified image sizes
- 12 Ocean acidification misunderstandings with chemistry, carbon, and the usage of organic and inorganic ...
- 13 How is Notability determined, regarding Talk:Planetary boundaries?
- 14 Environmental history
- 15 Lord Howe Island
- 16 Cultivated plant taxonomy
- 17 Franz Boos
- 18 Belated Barnstar
- 19 Turnabout
- 20 Thank you for checking on Sustainability.
- 21 No Thank you for changing Sustainability.
- 22 Botanical garden
- 23 Talkback
- 24 Sustainability FA
- 25 Planetary boundaries
- 26 Your GA nomination of Lord Howe Island
- 27 List of fictional characters ... pending deletion
- 28 New Page Patrol survey
- 29 Thank you
- 30 Trade designations/Selling names
- 31 How do you...
- 32 Botanical garden / Physic garden
- 33 Sustainability
- 34 Bambusa vulgaris
- 35 Lord Howe Island
- 36 Science lovers wanted!
- 37 Nomination for deletion of Template:TopicTOC-Sustainability
- 38 Question on Sustainability
- 39 A barnstar for you!
- 40 Bibliography of sustainability
- 41 A barnstar for you!
- 42 Common names
- 43 Please help a little with the horticulture of Buckinghamia (genus)
- 44 Botanical biographies in Rees's Cyclopaedia
- 45 An old edit
- 46 Category:Nomenclature
History of botany
The Talk:History of botany/GA1 page hasn't been created by anyone, so as you can see it's not under review, hence why I removed that; had I not it would have sat there indefinitely with no one picking it up. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 12:28, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of History of botany
The article History of botany you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:History of botany for things which need to be addressed. Jezhotwells (talk) 14:43, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
|The Original Barnstar|
|For History of botany. I don't know why, but I just felt that the article was very compelling. If only all the "history of science" articles were of this grade... Cheers, ResMar 02:42, 10 October 2010 (UTC)|
Hey you... please wake up
Hey... where have you gone Granitethighs? I hope you haven't let that most abysmal "administrator" get to you. You have done some superb work here, way beyond anything he could ever achieve. This stuff is kind of definitive. Don't let one miserable arsehole get in your way. --Epipelagic (talk) 10:14, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Hi Granitethights - I just wanted to let you know that procedures have changed at GAN over the last few months, and now everything on the GAN page is done by bot. To nominate an article, you simply place the GAN template at the top of the talk page, and the page is automatically entered onto the GAN page for you. The bot is removing your entries from the GAN page because there is no template on the talk page. All of the instructions for the new process are found in the instructional boxes at the top of the GAN page, if you wish to know more or need a refresher on the GAN template syntax. Please let me know if you have any questions. Dana boomer (talk) 22:07, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
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Your GA nomination of Félix Delahaye
- Thanks Jez ... and for tidying up around the edges ... and for stepping in for the former assessor.Granitethighs 23:25, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for your thoughtful comments on Talk:Sustainability regarding File:Nested sustainability-v2.gif ... see Talk:Individual and political action on climate change
Thank you for your thoughtful comments on Talk:Sustainability regarding File:Nested sustainability-v2.gif (Environment, Society, and Economy relationship Venn diagram) in Sustainability, and indirectly in Individual and political action on climate change (see Talk:Individual and political action on climate change). 126.96.36.199 (talk) 19:10, 30 March 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk)
- See wp:tea 184.108.40.206 (talk) 22:40, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
- If of continued interest, User:Arthur Rubin (Arthur Rubin) continues to hide other's Talk, this time on User Talk:Zodon http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zodon&diff=429845197&oldid=429841834 ... on March 30th 2011 it was User talk:Granitethighs http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Granitethighs&diff=prev&oldid=421531277 and User talk:OhanaUnited http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:OhanaUnited&diff=421531280&oldid=421528249 These are related to Template:Sustainability and Sustainability (and related topics). 220.127.116.11 (talk) 08:47, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
User-specified image sizes
Hi Stemonitis - thanks for your interest in the exploration article. I am not much of a user of images and am not sure what "User-specified image sizes" means. Could you please explain on my talk page - thanks.Granitethighs 09:17, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Picture tutorial#Thumbnail sizes; basically, readers can choose how large image thumbnails should appear on their screens, but this flexibility is prevented if a fixed width is given. You can use the
uprightparameter to alter the relative sizes of thumbnails ("
upright" on its own is equivalent to "
upright=0.75", if I remember rightly), without overruling the readers preferences for overall thumbnail size. --Stemonitis (talk) 09:27, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
Ocean acidification misunderstandings with chemistry, carbon, and the usage of organic and inorganic ...
How do I get an editor who understands the difference between organic (carbon in molecule) and inorganic in Chemistry, and "organic" and inorganic"'s other current means in the article Ocean acidification. Two editors are editing the article inaccurately to say "inorganic carbon cycle", which is impossible as a carbon cycle would have carbon in some molecules. Is there a list of editors to call-in who understand this? If you don't know, do you know who might? 18.104.22.168 (talk) 02:13, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
How is Notability determined, regarding Talk:Planetary boundaries?
I left a message on the talk page of the Environmental history article concerning its style and structure. As far as I can tell (I'm no Wikipedia expert), you contributed most of the content in the article right now. Your expertise is evident, and it appears you've already put a lot of work into it, so I think you would be the right person to improve the article.
Incidentally, I have no expert knowledge of environmental history at all - I stumbled on the article while reading Donald Worster's "Nature's Economy". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 23:38, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
I got through "Development of the subject". Some of the deleted material from the introduction could be re-incorporated elsewhere. In general the two biggest problems with the article are that it cites a few scholars over and over (Worster Nash and Hughes especially), and that it stinks of the academy. Including direct quotes from the same people eventually gives diminishing returns, especially since their verbiage to content ratio is pretty high. Unlike a term paper, this article does not need to be a certain length - the difficulty is to take the cushioning out and shift the genre to Wikipedia w/o losing content.
Anyway, please give feedback, and do with my changes what you like. I will try to come back later and work on the rest if this process improves the article. Also, all but the most important of the "seminal works" should probably end up on a separate page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 01:08, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Lord Howe Island
I see you've been doing lots of good work on the Lord Howe Island article. It may not be of any help, but I thought I'd mention that I'm compiling a list of the Lord Howe biota on one of my subpages User:99of9/LordHowe. (My plan is to take photos of some of these species when I go to the Island next year). It's amazing how many redlinks there are. --99of9 (talk) 04:59, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
- You're welcome. It was an easy call, it's a very solid B already. You've also done well with the photography. Those are the kind of pics I was hoping to get, I'm glad the article didn't have to wait until I go next year. They're the encyclopedic range of photos you only get when an active wikipedian visits a place. Can I request that you categorize under Category:Lord Howe Island when you upload in Commons? I'll be happy to give some comments when you're ready to go for GA. --99of9 (talk) 13:00, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
- Giving both the common name and scientific name of each plant/animal looks a bit ugly. If there is a wiki page, I'd suggest linking to it with only the common name. If there is no page, I suppose it's worth being specific with both (is there convention on this?)
- Take some detailed numerical figures out of the lead? Put some history into the lead? This is a good point but the statistics seem important in the lead and there does seem to be the convention of using both metric and other standards in the lead seems WP convention. I also agree about the history but the lead iis aready possibly sjightly too long so I am not sure what to leave out. I welcome suggestions.
- "The island was uninhabited and unkwown..." could come before details of the European arrival. Done
- Move the White Gallinule image up into the section where early watercolour sketches are discussed? Done
- "In the 1850s vessels avoided the mainland as crews would abandon ship for the goldfields" it took me a little while to comprehend this. Perhaps "In the 1850s vessels avoided the mainland where crewmembers may abandon ship for the goldfields"? Done
- "As well as George Campbell (who died in 1856) and Jack Brian (who left the island in 1854), the third, Nathan Thompson, brought three women from the Gilbert Islands, Botanga, Bogoroo and a girl named Bogue." was unclear to me. Are Botanga and Bogoroo places or women's names? Was Bogue included in your count of three women? Done
- "From 1860 to 1872 forty-three ships had collected provisions, but from 1873 to 1887 there were fewer than a dozen" This sentence occurs twice in section 1.4. Done
- "With Bowie was a team of scientists" Who is Bowie? You just mentioned John Wilson as the guy who was sent out. Done
- Reads well, but the wikilinking looks a little odd. Yes, there's very few now but none seem to be appropriate. Done
- More info is available from the ABS and could be useful in expanding this  Done
- "there was a suspension of games and labour" What does this mean? I presume it's referring to Sunday sabbath-observance. Adding "(on Sundays)" might help. Done
- "the most popular decorative palm in the world distributed by the Lord Howe Island Kentia Palm Nursery". Huh? The most popular of all decorative palms? Or only those distributed by LHIKPN? Surely the latter title is not hard to achieve. Done
- "a dry atmosphere and low – ideal for indoor conditions". Low what? Done
Cultivated plant taxonomy
I reduced the number of columns in the references section from 5 to 2 because it makes it much easier to read at normal window widths and doesn't take up any more vertical space. Most references sections only use one column, but since these have been abbreviated well, two columns works. With more columns than that, many of the items are broken up so much that it's really hard to follow. -- Nonenmac (talk) 11:44, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
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|The Editor's Barnstar|
|I was thrilled to learn that the Sustainability article received GA status. This was in no small measure due to your efforts. Thank you. Sunray (talk) 19:35, 25 June 2011 (UTC)|
Thank you for your kind words. I always appreciate getting a barnstar, and yes, you do have all the required authority to award one. If you go to this page, you just select the one you want and then copy what appears in the "What to type" column. Then paste it on the user's talk page, substituting whatever message you want for the word "message." Et voila! Sunray (talk) 02:50, 26 June 2011 (UTC)
- And thank you for the barnstar. It is much appreciated. Perhaps we should resume work on getting the article to FA status. I'm fairly busy at the moment, but hope to have more free time soon. What is your timing like? Sunray (talk) 00:44, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
Thank you for checking on Sustainability.
No Thank you for changing Sustainability.
You did injustice by reverting my additions to the article on Sustainability. The article implies that sustainability is only in regards to environmental sciences. This is totally incorrect. Sustainability is actually a major part of DoD acquisition programs to assure that a technical system has a maximal life-cycle - that once designed, it remains in production and operations for a maximum amount of time consistent with cost-effective practices. Nothing lasts forever, not even in environmental sciences. To suggest that sustainability is only relevant to environmental sciences does not do justice to the definition or the practice. Even sustainability in regard to the biological and life sciences comes at a cost - environments today are engineered whether you like it or not. I am an subject matter expert in the field of sustainability engineering.--188.8.131.52 (talk) 00:38, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
Is see the last couple of months, you have made many edits to Botanical garden, no doubt to improve it. I have been away from Wikipedia a long time, but I notice from the dates these only started in May. Now I am kinda back and as usual I humbly submit to you that if you need a second pair of eyes, i.e. constructive criticism, I would be glad to help out there or anywhere else.
I am very proud of the work we did together on this article, you as the lead and me as the devil's advocate. It looks much better for it, I think. So if I can fill that role again I would be happy to. Off the back of it, I also translated some botanist and botanical articles from French to English Wikipedia - sometimes only as stubs but at least better than nothing. It was a pleasure to do the major edit you did together with you, with someone who realises that criticism is constructive and not destructive, even though the perils of putting conversational style (in Talk) while doing it in a written style (er, writing) sometimes makes it seems harsher than intended. You did a bloody good job there and I am glad, I hope, I could lend a little support if only as a devil's advocate. It would be a pleasure to do so again.
Hi GT: Further to our recent exchange, here are a few preliminary thoughts about further improving the "Sustainability" article. The first thing that struck me was when I began to prepare a reply to IP 184.108.40.206. I thought that some of his criticisms were easily answered in the article. For example, his point about "infinite [sic] sustainability" was dealt with in several ways in the in the (longer) article that we had peer reviewed, back in the day. The IP said: "... the economic and engineering analysis of such manufactured technology tends to be ignored. Sustainability must consider life-cycle, for everything has a beginning and an end. Infinite sustainability is only a fantasy." I guess he means "ultimate" sustainability. We did address this with reference to the laws of thermodynamics (and the Natural Step as a way to apply those laws to the problematic of sustainability). We also referred to life cycle analysis (which represents an even more practical way to address it). But those references are no longer in the main article. So when the IP refers to "political purposes", he is making an interesting observation. If one reads all of the subarticles, it seems clear that we have covered all those bases. However, the main article now contains only the a synthesis--which may easily be construed as "political," simply because there is no evidence, nor countervailing viewpoints, expressed.
I also wanted to mention the recent addition to the article by Dyname42 (talk • contribs on "Sustainability ethics," which I reverted. I've had an exchange with him on my talk page here. He is a PhD student from Michigan pursuing a doctorate in philosophy with an emphasis on environmental philosophy and agrarian ethics. I've invited him to discuss his proposed addition on the article talk page and mentioned that we are talking about a drive for FA status. In his proposed addition, he states: "... while sustainability has become a prominent topic and popular buzz word within the past two decades, there is little consensus on it's exact meaning." I had thought that we had also dealt with this, but perhaps it too is not apparent to readers with the current iteration of the article.
- A point of information about some recent edits you will have noticed: this editor, as you will see if you examine his edit history, is a dedicated POV pusher who (for what reasons I have no idea because he has never offered a rational reason) is determined to suppress any mention of planetary boundaries or safe operating boundaries on Wikipedia. Apparently this is part of a wider pattern, and another editor has already suggested an RfC may be the only way out. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:43, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Lord Howe Island
Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article Lord Howe Island you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Nightw 23:35, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for all your patience and effort during the review. I'll do a thorough check for grammar and sourcing issues today and then pass it once finished. Nightw 04:06, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
List of fictional characters ... pending deletion
You may be interested in the discussion regarding deleting a list article regarding fictional Carpenters. You have in the past created a List of surname Spencer. I created a list of real and fictional Carpenter because other editors/admins told me to do so from the Carpenter surname page. Now others want to delete it. I was happy with the way it was and would be happy to merge the fictional Carpenters with the list of surname Carpenters. Any input, pro or con would be welcome.
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- Thank you for your contributions to Talk:Sustainability and Sustainability. :-) See WP:Tea 220.127.116.11 (talk) 00:56, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
Trade designations/Selling names
I think that the section is now clearer and I've included an example with small capitals, as per the ICNCP. I find explaining legalistic codes like this clearly but yet accurately to be difficult, so please keep checking anything I write there! Thanks. Peter coxhead ([[U--JeromRP (talk) 12:55, 8 January 2012 (UTC)ser talk:Peter coxhead|talk]]) 10:33, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
How do you...
Botanical garden / Physic garden
Lord Howe Island
|The Geography Barnstar|
|I was led to the article Lord Howe Island, which you are largely responsible for, because I happened to wonder where my Kentia Palm came from. Wow! This is what geography should be. Wikipedia at its best. Thank you for all of your great environmental and geographical contributions. Foobarnix (talk) 01:26, 31 January 2012 (UTC)|
Science lovers wanted!
|Science lovers wanted!|
|Hi! I'm serving as the wikipedian-in-residence at the Smithsonian Institution Archives until June! One of my goals as resident, is to work with Wikipedians and staff to improve content on Wikipedia about people who have collections held in the Archives - most of these are scientists who held roles within the Smithsonian and/or federal government. I thought you might like to participate since you are interested in the sciences! Sign up to participate here and dive into articles needing expansion and creation on our to-do list. Feel free to make a request for images or materials at the request page, and of course, if you share your successes at the outcomes page you will receive the SIA barnstar! Thanks for your interest, and I look forward to your participation! Sarah (talk) 01:18, 19 April 2012 (UTC)|
Template:TopicTOC-Sustainability has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Illia Connell (talk) 04:56, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
What is going on? Granitethighs 07:19, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
- A user has nominated the template for deletion based on its lack of use and, well, you can read the nomination yourself at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#Template:TopicTOC-Sustainability. If you oppose, you need to comment there, explaining why the template should be kept. To inform the main part of the rationale, that it's unused, please see WP:TFD#REASONS, where a basis for deletion is stated as:
- "The template is not used, either directly or by template substitution (the latter cannot be concluded from the absence of backlinks), and has no likelihood of being used."
- So you might explain why it does have a likelihood of being used, or otherwise should be kept.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 08:16, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
- OK it seemed quite usefulatthe time - suppose it had better go. Granitethighs 10:46, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
Question on Sustainability
Regarding , didn't you already resolve this issues a year ago? It seems to have come-up in regards to Talk:Wealth#Add File:Nested sustainability-v2.gif and Wealth edits. 18.104.22.168 (talk) 06:34, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
A barnstar for you!
|The Original Barnstar|
You have been recommended by AlanLiefting as someone who has done a great amount of work on sustainability in Wikipedia. Not sure whether it's the right platform but how can I get in touch with you in relation to doing an interview on your contributions to Wikipedia for the purpose of creating a resource for the benefit of higher education business/management students about the use of various resources eg Wikipedia in the context of sustainability?
Thanks for asking. It would be questions like: what motivates you to be a Wikipedia editor, a bit about your editing experiences and the process, especially in relation to sustainability articles and tips for students to edit Wikipedia, especially in relation to sustainability. Their task will be to select one article on sustainability as a group , work on searching various info sources then do an edit on the chosen article. The idea is to show students the 'people' behind Wikipedia and how it works. I would envisage a pre-interview talk between you and I initially, then a recorded brief interview, max 3-5 minutes at a next session. The format could be an audio recording or a narrated screen capture or Skype video,, or any other format as you wish. I could presend the questions and show you any results for agrrement before using. you would be okay to withdraw at any point. I am happy to talk through further questions. Or you can also talk to Alan liefting as he is going to do one. If better, I cn explain more in email too, not sure how I can contact you via email though.
Thanks very much for getting back. Don't feel any pressure p,ease,it's a completely optional request. Babberci — Preceding unsigned comment added by Babberci (talk • contribs) 17:49, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
Bibliography of sustainability
A barnstar for you!
jmanooch 03:31, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Granitethighs. If you have recovered sufficiently from the inexcusable flurry of gross attacks you had to endure from an incompetent user, it would be really good if you renewed your engagement with the article on common name. It is a tricky, but important area, difficult to source, and you seem as equipped as much as anyone else, certainly far more than your pathetic detractor, to contribute here to what is potentially an important article. --Epipelagic (talk) 03:13, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
Please help a little with the horticulture of Buckinghamia (genus)
G’day R. r r r granitethighs (in very small case!) from J.S. (easy to google and also find in history)!
Please come in here and help us just a little with the horticulture of Buckinghamia.
Less than 100 additional good words will get the article where It is intended to get linked in a hook line of words in the "Did you know" (DYK) section of the main page. Now any number more good words will be very welcome.
I confirmed today from history—after V. hinted "granitethighs!" years ago—how did i not guess and not confirm via history until now?!—… …, that we know each other. We’re old MEL contacts, in the sense that we know each other from the late 1980s, when i spent a lot of time, a bit like WP, doing a major graphic communication final high school year assignment on all the Australian native rainforest plants of the gardens and designing, at a high school standard, a walk through all the individual trees, shrubs and vines there. I was also inspired by the rainforest plants walk then already well established in Sydney botanic gardens. In MEL i was checked up on by D.A. and sometimes yourself, if i recall. At the moment i’m learning the forest in the Wet Tropics (capitals!!! :) ).
Anyway, i'd really like you to help a little please, on Buckinghamia horticultural interests. When they were first used horticulturally, in Australia, if possible please? When first used in Melbourne, Sydney, Adelaide and Brisbane botanic gardens, and of course further afield in parks, gardens, streets and other government lands, etc., please? ——--macropneuma 09:17, 15 April 2013 (UTC) —updating, correcting and clarifying my previous words—--macropneuma 02:51, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
Botanical biographies in Rees's Cyclopaedia
Hullo, I have been working for some while on the Rees's Cyclopaedia pages, and am just now compiling a list of the biographies of botanists. I have just noted the various lists of botanists of the period you have compiled, and don't want to conflict with anything you might have in the pipeline. I originally aimed to list the lives written by James Edward Smith taken from his wife's book about him, but on comparing that list with my copy of the original work I find its not accurate in that a great many names are missing, so its been a case of working through the work page by page - and trying not to get too side-tracked!!. It will be several weeks before it gets posted, though. Kind regards Apwoolrich (talk) 18:23, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
An old edit
Hi, I've just fixed an old problem caused by this edit in Systema Naturae. As the paragraph stood, an IP editor has I think correctly observed that the second sentence was, despite the citation, a copyvio. I've named and wikilinked Stearn and added quotes and the page number. Just thought you should know. All the best, Chiswick Chap (talk) 06:59, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Category:Nomenclature, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Fgnievinski (talk) 12:49, 7 July 2015 (UTC)