User talk:Granizov

Welcome!

Hello, Granizov, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Miguel (Mike) Fernandez, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may soon be deleted.

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Proposed deletion of Miguel (Mike) Fernandez[edit]

The article Miguel (Mike) Fernandez has been proposed for deletion because, under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one reliable source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners, or ask at the help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. MikeWazowski (talk) 19:44, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply[edit]

Hi, you can sign your comments automatically using four tildes ~~~~. When you are ready, you just need to recreate, I've not blocked that. Please make sure that you provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that he meets the notability guidelines for people.

Some comments

you repeated his name twice as an introduction, once in large letters, and once with a a Cuban American healthcare entrepreneur. That's just spammy. Bold his name once in the first sentence
Do not repost the image. It is taken from a page which is clearly marked as copyright. If the company is prepared to release the image, they need either to change the website to show that re-use of the photo is permitted under the GFDL or released into the public domain, or send an e-mail from an address associated with the company to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org to obtain an OTRS ticket.
You don't need a list of contents — it's created automatically once you have enough sections (three, I think)
Main headings should just be formatted ==Heading==
Before "Early career" have a lead paragraph with his name, DoB, nationality and main points of what is to follow
Wikilink to other articles like U.S. Army. Otherwise it just looks as if you have cut-and-pasted from source which may not have an explicit public domain or similar licence. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy.
Use "US" instead of national, not all your readers are American.
The list of what MBF Healthcare Partners has done is about the company, not him, looks as if you're promoting the company
There are a whole bundle of claims, involving statements like "the largest", prices for companies, his philanthropic work; I hope you can reference all this.
This reads like a CV, precious little about the man himself, just what he owns/owned.

It's not compulsory, but to avoid the possibility of a speedy or AfD, you might want to recreate here, and let me know. I'd be happy to comment if you want me to. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:05, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I must have missed the email. I've tidied up a bit and added some wikilinks to other articles, but it could do with more. I've changed the Miami Herald ref so you can see how to make them more intelligible, basically [url description], the others should be done the same. The refs would be better in-line, so we can see what they are supporting. I haven't got time to go through that now, but if you can't sort it out, get back to me, although it may be a while before I can respond Jimfbleak - talk to me? 17:08, 21 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've only done this myself once. Try this. Go to Commons upload and fill in the image upload form. When you get to "Permission", copy {{PermissionOTRS|2011030110009436}} Under "licence" choose the one marked as recommended, then upload. You should get something that looks like this. I'm going to be away for a couple of days, so if that doesn't work, try the Help Desk Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:39, 23 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Can you write out HMO in full on first use, I don't know what it means? I'd drop the "Mr.", and just use his surname. To a Brit, "Mr." seems a bit deferential and unencyclopaedic. You would'd write about Mr Isaac Newton or Mr Hitler. Otherwise looks OK, go for it Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:27, 29 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some tips to help you out![edit]

Hi Granizov, I thought I'd drop a few notes on your talk page with some help on writing articles :o)

First of all, it may be best for you to do a bit of reading, starting with the Wikipedia manual of style, which will give you a lot of information about how Wikipedia prefers its articles to be written. It's not as hard to follow as it might look; quite a bit of the information there probably won't be vital for you at first.

Second, I recommend you make a user sandbox - which is just an area you can use to practise in, and to make notes in, and to get things ready in. If you click this red link: user:Granizov/Sandbox, that will let you create that page (it gives you an edit window to start work in). Anything, anywhere, on the help and information pages which gives you an example, try it out in your sandbox until you're familiar with it.

For your article, the next thing you want to do is start collecting as much information as you can about it. Google searches (particularly in Books and Scholar) will be your best friend for this! Once you've found the information, the next most important thing is to start writing up each fact in your own words (very important, this), and make a note at the same time of exactly where that information came from. Build in the references as you go along; I'm going to copy in, down below this, a whole heap of help on doing references, which was produced by one of our best teachers (Chzz).

Here's another place that you'll find incredibly useful - citation templates which you can copy and paste into your sandbox, between <ref></ref> tags; you just fill in the blanks from your sources into the template, and you'll end up with nicely formatted inline citations :o) It all helps. Remember to add a references section to your sandbox (make a new line, and put ==References== on it, and type {{reflist}} on the next line, so that you can see how your citations look as you do them. Remember to save your page often! You don't want to lose your work.

Hopefully this will give you a good start and make life easier for you.

One last thing to keep as a motto: "It's better to write one good, well-referenced, nicely-presented article than it is to create fifty unreferenced one-line stubs!" Pesky (talk …stalk!) 07:59, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How references work[edit]

Simple references[edit]

These require two parts;

a)

Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref>

He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>

b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}";

== References ==
{{reflist}}

(an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections)

To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Granizov/reftest and try it out.

Named references[edit]

Chzz was born in 1837. <ref name=MyBook>
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> 

Chzz lives in Footown.<ref name=MyBook/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates[edit]

You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation
 | last = Smith
 | first = John
 | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century
 | publication-date = 2001
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
}}
</ref>

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

For more help and tips on that subject, see user:chzz/help/refs.

Something to make your life easier![edit]

Hi there Granizov! I've just come across one of your articles, and noticed that you had to create titles for your url links manually, or were using bare urls as references.

You might want to consider using this tool - it makes your life a whole heap easier, by filling in complete citation templates for your links. All you do is install the script on Special:MyPage/common.js, or or Special:MyPage/vector.js, then paste the bare url (without [...] brackets) between your <ref></ref> tabs, and you'll find a clickable link called Reflinks in your toolbox section of the page (probably in the left hand column). Then click that tool. It does all the rest of the work (provided that you remember to save the page! It doesn't work for everything (particularly often not for pdf documents), but for pretty much anything ending in "htm" or "html" (and with a title) it will do really, really well. Happy editing! Pesky (talk …stalk!) 07:59, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

MfD nomination of User:Granizov/sandbox[edit]

User:Granizov/sandbox, a page you substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Granizov/sandbox and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of User:Granizov/sandbox during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. QuiteUnusual ^TalkQu 10:05, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]