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Re: August 2015[edit]

The information I provided lets people know what an average home in Hutto, TX costs along with taxes, price per sqft, and neighborhoods in that city, for someone considering a move to Hutto, TX. The information is pulled directly from tax records and our MLS and people are not required to register to view the information. I read the guidelines for external links and followed the rules. Please let me know which rule, specifically, I failed to adhere to as I don't want to make the same mistake again. Even if you don't agree with the hyperlink itself, the information provided is valid and shouldn't have been removed completely. EvancedRealty


Thanks for the info! Very interesting. Sorry I wasn't aware, but thanks for catching it and reverting it. Have a good one! ihhavens (talk) 03:36, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Clay High School (Indiana) logo.jpg[edit]


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J.L. Richards Fixes[edit]

Thanks so much for a beautiful job reorganizing and cleaning up the James Lorin Richards article. I was obviously in way over my head and I really appreciate your work. Thanks again,

Jtlanghorne (talk) 13:43, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 05 August 2015[edit]

Semi-protected your talk page[edit]

For two days. Let me (or any other admin) know if you'd like that adjusted. --NeilN talk to me 01:49, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I must remember to get a different cologne. Attracting way too much attention. John from Idegon (talk) 02:06, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

La Salle and COI[edit]

Please know that Braden.bonner has disclosed his COI on his Talk page. I saw your questions on the Talk page to him. Couple of notes, fwiw. First, I generally address COI issues with editors on their Talk pages rather than article Talk pages, as the discussion is not about the article per se and doesn't really belong on the article talk page... and doing it on the article Talk page can end up mashing together content disputes with the issues around COI management, and that mashing can get messy, quickly. Second.. I generally find that in working with editors with a potential COI and educating them about our COI guideline and why it matters, sugar gets your farther, faster, than vinegar. Most folks who edit here want the public to respect Wikipedia (and in a funny way, editors with a COI sometimes grasp the need to protect WP's good name more swiftly than others) and will abide by the COI guideline when the issue is framed that way. Do with that as you will. Thanks for your concern to protect the integrity of WP! Jytdog (talk) 10:20, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Chino, California[edit]

I hope you're enjoying your summer. Could you have a look at "Chino in popular culture" on the Chino, California article? I cleaned it up a bit, but it still seems mostly trivia. I'm never sure about deleting these things. Cheers! Magnolia677 (talk) 12:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)


Do you really think blocking one IP will keep me away? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:44, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 12 August 2015[edit]

Upper Arlington High School[edit]

My source for adding John Knox to the alumni was the following clip: [1] It shows Knox's introduction in the Upper Arlington Baseball Hall of Fame last January 24, and says he graduated from the school in 1966. --Xuxl (talk) 09:22, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi, Xuxl. You Tube is not considered a reliable source since it is user generated. If the guy was good enough to play in the bigs, it stands to reason that he must have been mentioned in a newspaper story on a game when he was in high school. That would be a much better reference. Thanks. John from Idegon (talk) 15:33, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
How about these: [2]; [3]? --Xuxl (talk) 10:01, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Xuxl: Those are better, but still do not fit the requirements of WP:RS. Reliable sources are sources that have some sort of fact-checking methodology in place. Newspapers and magazines (and their websites), radio and TV news (and their websites), books published by mainline publishing houses (not self published or vanity press), and trusted academic journals are all examples of what is a reliable source. You may not realize it, but sourcing does not have to be online for Wikipedia. A print newspaper found in your local library would be just fine. You would make your citation for that with the cite news template. I'm more than happy to help you do the technical of the edit, but I do not have time to do the research. Hope it goes well. Happy editing. John from Idegon (talk) 16:07, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't have any vested interest in this matter. I update a baseball-only site (Baseball-reference Bullpen) and for that one, the information I have found about John Knox's high school history is enough. I don't think you will find anything more reliable than a school actually adding him to its Hall of Fame as proof that he attended; it's a rather trivial matter, and not worth poring over microfilms of regional papers from 1966, on the odd chance that he was mentioned when he was a high schooler, to confirm (I'm not located anywhere near Ohio these days, so it would imply a lot of work). In any case, I know all about reliable sources, but there has to be some slack given for small, non-controversial matters, as opposed to items that actually require a higher level of sourcing. --Xuxl (talk) 09:06, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
No. Fortuna Imperatrix Mundi 10:21, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Hello neighbor![edit]

Anyone who can see smoke from the Soda fire must be a neighbor! Anyway, I undid your reversal of an edit on the Boise article this morning. I realize that the editor had not included any citations (other than an inter-wiki link to an article about the Pioneer (train)). I've added citations and completed a little copyedit on the new material as well. Those actions would probably be pretty self-explanatory, but the reason I'm dropping a note here is to ask if, as someone who expresses interest in retaining editors, don't you think that simply reversing the edit might come across as a little "bitey" when the info was accurate, just unsourced? Etamni | ✉   12:10, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 19 August 2015[edit]

The Signpost: 26 August 2015[edit]

Need some help; not sure how to proceed[edit]

I've come across some problem editing that I'm not sure how to deal with and I'd like a second set of eyes on it, along with some thoughts on how to proceed. An editor has been adding content to the history and demographic sections of American communities that appears to be totally bogus, or at best, contains only a kernel of truth. Many of the edits consist of a canned paragraph about the settlement and pervasive influence of Yankees in Midwestern communities. (See [4], for example.) The edits each contain a source, although a different one for each edit/community, even when the edits are identical. Usually the source is an old state or local history book. Usually there is no link to the book, although it can be readily found in Google Books. When I've checked the page numbers in the citations against the GB books, I don't find anything remotely supporting the paragraph inserted. In addition to the canned edits, other questionable edits to demographic sections of community articles (e.g., [5]) and to biographical articles all emphasize a pervasive English/Yankee influence.

This has been going on for many months. I noticed it quite some time ago, and at the time tried to remove one of the edits, but was out-edit warred by the editor in question. Recently I've been able to make several deletions of content that was added months ago: [6], [7], [8] . Still, I don't know how many articles have had some sort of English/Yankee-biased content added by this editor. A complication is that the editor appears to have been making edits under several registered and unregistered accounts: [9], [10], [11], [12]. There are likely to be other accounts, as well, but I haven't made an effort to find them.

I'm not sure what to do. Reverting the edits is only a short-term solution, as it appears that this editor is on a mission. Reporting it is a possibility, but no one ever listens to an IP. Then there's the question of where to report it: WP:AN/I? WP:SPI? WP:NORN? WP:NPOVN?

I'd certainly appreciate your thoughts on the matter.


  • Bogus (biased?) information is being inserted into American community and biographical articles.
  • The editor making the edits is using several registered and unregistered accounts.
  • I haven't identified all the accounts making the edits or all the articles in which the edits have been made.
  • Attempts to stop this editing activity have been largely unsuccessful.
  • Not sure how to proceed. (talk) 23:49, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

(by talk page watcher) To the IP user: I've invited an admin to review this. Etamni | ✉   09:44, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
I looked over a lot of the edits made by two of the IP addresses associated with these edits. The assertions made by seem pretty accurate at first glance. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:35, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Thank God for people who watch my talk page! I have not had a chance to look but I will. Seems to be moving forward tho. John from Idegon (talk) 23:37, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Just a note to add that the IP user has indicated that he/she has a dynamic IP address, and commented on my talk page from Additional comments about this issue may be from different IP addresses. Etamni | ✉   09:19, 31 August 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Thanks, Etamni. FYI, I'm quite familiar with 32.218. He is actually a very prolific settlement article editor, specializing in articles on Wisconsin. For whatever reason, he chooses not to register, and I respect his decision and afford him the same treatment as a registered editor. (As we all should all IP editors but usually don't). John from Idegon (talk) 15:31, 31 August 2015 (UTC)