User talk:Guinness323

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Hi there. Your impressive edits gave a lot of out-of-universe text, so I restored Robilar and copied them back there to give it more room. I would remove the Robilar section on the list page and replace it with a "see" template, but the bots usually revert me when I try to "remove" text like that. Good work! (talk) 04:52, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Greyhawk deities[edit]

By the way, Greyhawk deities is outstanding if I haven't said so already. :) Not perfect, but miles better than where it was. That edition-by-edition out-of-universe breakdown is exactly what I've been looking for for all D&D articles. BOZ (talk) 11:42, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

I do recall Gygax talking about the origins of various monsters, I'll see if I can find it. Re "Deities", no it's not perfect, but I thought this new outline gives a better starting place for improvements. Guinness323 (talk) 13:11, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
The format is a big improvement, over a spawling list that doesn't really tell you anything, so I'll take it. :) I've been advocating the "present the information in publication history order" for some time now, and I'd like to eventually get everything in line with that. As for the mimic, I did find a brief mention in White Dwarf and added it, so if you are able to find a little bit more, I think that would make it a solid case to avoid deletion (as it is, I think it's unlikely to be deleted).BOZ (talk) 19:36, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
Nice job on Pholtus; I think I'll hold off on merging that one. Are there any others you have some out-of-universe/development info that you are looking to add? When I get to merging more (maybe later today), I'm starting with those which are not particularly important to the setting, and/or have appeared very few times (generally, those added to the setting after Gygax left TSR). Any articles that you can make respectable, I will leave in peace. :) No rush though, I'm not in any hurry. BOZ (talk) 15:13, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't have a set plan, mainly due to my current workload, but I have a vague idea about going through the various Greyhawk gods and other related articles and adding similar material, since I have been kind of immersed in Greyhawkiana for about 6 months. If you have any you would like prioritized, let me know. Guinness323 (talk) 20:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
No priority at all! Work on whatever you feel you want to hit up. If something gets merged in somewhere and you want to expand it, we can always unmerge it. If you come across something which has been deleted, I can restore it if you are able to provide some good sourced material for it. BOZ (talk) 22:09, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Flesherton, Ontario[edit]

Thank you very much for your additions to this article, it's great to see people like yourself contributing to improving the historical context available in articles about smaller communities here in Southern Ontario. thanks again, cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 04:40, 3 November 2009 (UTC)


Fantastic work, thanks! I was going to mention this one to you to see if you could get in some cleanup work, but my memory is as faulty as ever; keep in mind that also the blink dog is in a similar predicament. BOZ (talk) 12:24, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

I should be able to do some work on 2nd, 3rd 3.5 and 4E bulettes later today. Blink dog may be more of a problem, I will finish bulette then take a look at it. Guinness323 (talk) 17:09, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Gary Gygax - Featured Article?[edit]

Do you think it would be a good idea to make another stab at getting Gary Gygax up to Featured Article status? We tried that a couple of years ago (see talk page) but it didn't work out so well. I think the article is in better shape now, which is why I requested that copy-edit.

The only thing is, on a FAC page other editors will rip into the sources they find in the article, and they will let you know when they find your sources to be lacking.  ;) We're going to need to solidify the reasonsing for using the ENWorld threads, because without that I could foresee a quick run of "opposes" coming from people. Didn't we at some point go to the reliable sources noticeboard and get them approved? If so, I think we need to link to that and explain ahead of time. BOZ (talk) 17:24, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

We did seek approval via WP:RSN in order to use that sourcing for the article on Greyhawk. The Greyhawk talk page says: "An important source of information about the early days of D&D are the archives of the Q&A forum at ENWorld hosted by Gary Gygax between 2002 and his death in March 2008. In this forum, Gygax used the handle Col Pladoh, as he confirmed in an interview in 2003: "Q. What online forums do you frequent regularly? Gygax: I hit EN World as Col_Pladoh. I also post a lot on the boards, and on the MSN Lejendary Adventure Community, and ones about once a week." (edited transcript at, complete interview archived at This has been judged at WP:RSN to be a valid recognition that Gygax and "Col Pladoh" were the same person."
Someone would also have to take stab at reconciling timelines. In one paragraph, he's moving back from Chicago to Lake Geneva in 1967. Several paragraphs later, he's already in Lake Geneva and forming a miniatures club in 1966. Similarly, the article currently states that he left TSR on Dec 31, 1985, and founded New Infinities in Oct 86, but several sentences later, he didn't give up his TSR posts until October 1986. Guinness323 (talk) 17:37, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
That's what I figured - I thought you or someone had gone to get approval that these threads were valid to use as sources. So then, when (not if) this one goes to FAC, we'll need to disclose that up front to (hopefully) keep the hordes of people from going "you can't use message boards as a source!!!" and piling on "oppose" votes. I see what you mean about the timelines; an examinination of the sources should help to sort that out. BOZ (talk) 21:56, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Game designers[edit]

Do you have any sources that can improve the articles for Marcelo Del Debbio, Paul Drye, Marco Donadoni, Pete Fenlon, Lee Gold, Joseph Goodman, Geoffrey C. Grabowski, Andrew Greenberg, Rob Heinsoo, Steve Henderson (game designer), Shane Lacy Hensley, Gary Holian, ‎Paul Hume (game designer), Jeff Koke, Christopher Kubasik, Lenard Lakofka, Scott Leaton, Chris Wiese, Ken Lightner, Clinton R. Nixon, ‎Mark Rein•Hagen, or ‎Marcus Rowland (author)? (talk) 18:57, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Whew, that's quite the list. I'll see what I can do. Guinness323 (talk) 19:02, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
That nominator has been very busy, and I'm sure they are not done yet! Anything you can do would help. (talk) 19:17, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Looking them over, I see immediate hope--that is, I should be able to quickly source some material and flesh out their wikis--for Rob Heinsoo, Gary Holian and Len Lakofka. The others are more obscure and will take a lot more time and a lot more digging.Guinness323 (talk) 19:35, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Whatever you can do! (talk) 20:46, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

A lot of the articles in my initial list have been de-PRODded. As for Gary Holian, the PROD will expire on that article tomorrow, so to keep it from being deleted, I'm going to redirect it. Feel free to restore it when you're ready to work on it! (talk) 23:48, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Finished Len Lakofka (sorry for the delay, laid up for several days with virus). Will move on to Gary Holian next week. Guinness323 (talk) 18:36, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Now that Holian's article has been restored, you may as well do what you can with it if you want to, in case someone has any bright ideas about deleting it. :( BOZ (talk) 02:06, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Jim Roslof[edit]

Hey man, great work on Lakofka! Working on Holian would be nice, but since his article is a redirect now, I don't think we need to worry about that one getting deleted soon. Instead, could I ask you a favor to have a look at Jim Roslof and see what you can do there? I have heard from fellow TSR illustrator Stephen D. Sullivan that Roslof has terminal cancer and isn't expected to live much longer. It's been my impression that a lot of newspapers and the like are lazy, and would rather just copy from a Wikipedia article to write an obit rather than do any actual research (Gygax's obit in the Guardian is a famous example). Given that, I'd like the man to have a proper tribute (in case anyone actually pays enough attention to write him an obit at all, that is) with as well-sourced of an article as we can come up with. BOZ (talk) 20:36, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

I'll get on that.If you have any bio details, let me know. Guinness323 (talk) 04:16, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Addded as much as I could in one day with tools I have at hand. If you can dredge up any other details, particularly early life, art education and what he did 1985-2005, it would help to flesh out the wiki.Guinness323 (talk) 22:33, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
If I can get on Facebook, I'll see if Mr. Sullivan can help out with more details/sources. Thanks for what you have done so far! BOZ (talk) 14:13, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Good luck with citations: I don't have a copy of "Artists of TSR", in case there's a couple of usable paragraphs in that, but looks like thin pickings otherwise. Best hope might be if it is possible for someone from the industry to write up a retrospective of Roslof's life in a usable (non-blog) source...
aside, to y'both, we do have a five-fold expansion so any thoughts on whether it might be worth pushing for a DYK? Obvious targets would certainly include Jim's role in hiring so many of those artists who would go on to define a "generation" of RPG/D&D art. Regards, David. Harami2000 (talk) 15:01, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
There's an Artists of TSR book??? And yes, I agree that a DYK would be a great idea. :) BOZ (talk) 02:04, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
From Artists of TSR consists of twelve 8 1/2" x 11" black-and-white art prints protected by a wrap-around cover. An introduction is given by TSR Art Dept head Jim Roslof on the inside cover, and some background info on the artists is detailed on the inside back cover. The portfolio consists of two prints each by the following artists: Jeff Easley, Larry Elmore, Jim Holloway, Harry Quinn, Jim Roslof, and Tim Truman. The portfolio was released by the RPGA in 1982, but printed in very limited quantities (approximately 200). According to Frank Mentzer (a TSR staff member at the time), very few of these were actually sold, and the rest presumably pulped. DYK is a great idea. Guinness323 (talk) 02:18, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Many thanks on the expansion - made the mistake of getting caught up IRL and awaiting permission for a photo (hopefully still incoming). You caught pretty much everything I was going to add and then some - sadly thin on citable sources out there. Will add the others, now. Best wishes, David. Harami2000 (talk) 00:14, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm conversion with Steve Sullivan currently on Facebook, at [1] if you can see it, and if not a transcript below; anything you want me to ask him or say to him?

Glad you got Jim's photo from Jim Hollow. That's a great one.

The article is better, but there are some inaccuracies that I spotted on a quick scan. Evan and Paul (not sure of the spelling - Richie? It's been too long) were not artists, they were the Devo Department, along with Kevin Hendryx. But we were all very close, and Bill & Jeff jumped to their defense, leading to the "massacre" that seemed to have half the staff gone. Kevin went around then, too, and Erol didn't stick around much longer, either.

I moved from editorial to the art department shortly thereafter - as there was a talk of purging editors, too. Jim hired Jim H., then Harry, and then Larry -- who was my office mate when he first got there. Then Jeff. I think all of us were in the office above the Hobby Shop at that point. Clyde came later and Tim, too. By then, we were in the building we called "The White Elephant," and were joined by Jeff Butler -- and DSL and DCS III came back to do maps with me.

I don't know a lot about Jim's work after TSR, but he worked as a graphic designer at Yunker Industries -- right across the street -- for quite a while, if I remember. He was already living in Elkhorn when he was at TSR.

Sorry no citations for this stuff, but I was there, and that's how I remember it.

Oh, Bill and Jeff and company were all fired over the weekend that Jim was attending a funeral -- his mother's as I recall. Laura told me he always felt bad about that; he hadn't been there to protect his guys.

I guess you could post all this into a blog article or something, if you want. If it'll help fix Jim's article up. I'm not sure when/if the artist area was ever called "The Pit" -- it certainly wasn't when I was there. It was just the Art Department in what I (at least) used to call the Great Windowless Space; no one liked that big windowless bullpen room. They moved into an area with windows after I left in 1984 to help found Pacesetter.

Oh, I think Keith came after Tim and before Jeff Butler. Again, though, that's pure memory -- so it may not be completely accurate. I think Clyde was after Tim and Keith before Clyde, but....

Oh, I also believe that Jim R. predated Bill (for sure) and maybe Jeff as well. Possibly even Erol, under DCS III's art department. I could ask Jeff when I see him tomorrow, if I remember. Evan and Paul were definitely not artists, never. At the time, TSR's creative division was art plus Design, Devo, and Production (editorial). I was in Production, Devo was Evan, Paul, and Kevin -- that was all, I think, just those 3 guys, though it's been a long time.

In late 1980, design was Lawrence Schick, Zeb, Tom Moldvay, and Alan Hammack, kindof (he was also a manager). I might be forgetting someone, but.... Oh, Mike Price. Production was Harold Johnson, me, John Pickens, and later Ed Sollers, ...Pat Price, and Steve Winter -- in roughly that order, I think. Might be someone amid all that who has slipped my mind -- Jean Welles was a round, but I don't remember what department she was officially in. Frank was busy creating his own department -- RPGA -- though he was in Production for a while, too, I think. Jobs were a bit fluid back then, and there was a lot of overlap between design, devo, and production/editorial. One big happy family . . . until the "massacre."

Really, if you're at GaryCon this weekend you should try to corner me, Jeff, & Bill and grill us about the events and people. Between all of us, we'd probably arrive at a very accurate account.

Oh... I have no idea who Scott Taylor is. Must have been well after my time -- and, therefore, probably Jim's, too. BOZ (talk) 21:41, 25 March 2011 (UTC)


You might want to take a look and make sure that nothing critical was lost in this overhaul[2] - the user seems to be working in good faith, so take a close look before changing anything back. BOZ (talk) 23:37, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Same thing goes for Iggwilv[3]. BOZ (talk) 16:04, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for alerting me. Took a quick look at Mordenkainen and the edits seem to be mainly copy-editing for style. However, some good material seems to have been excised--I will look at that and see if it needs to be replaced. I'll also check out Iggwilv as well. Guinness323 (talk) 16:37, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
No problem - just giving you a heads up!  :) BOZ (talk) 17:36, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
Sorry for my lack of work on this. Started college in September. It's been a few years since my undergrad days, and the re-learning curve about how to learn has been steep. Guinness323 (talk) 17:55, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Frank Mentzer[edit]

I'm not sure if it was you who added it, but the picture was deleted. I can restore it (or another admin can) if you can fix whatever the concern with the image was. BOZ (talk) 16:18, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

It was Rhuvein who added the image. That edit tag indicates the photo addition was done at Frank's request. I will re-post your note to his Talk page, and add an addendum indicating what permissions have to be in place for the photo file to survive on WikiCommons.Guinness323 (talk) 18:43, 11 December 2011 (UTC)

Don Kaye[edit]

Check out all the recent work on this article. I was also able to make some nice additions to TSR, Inc as well as a result of that. BOZ (talk) 16:18, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Some nice additions and new sources. Neat. I rewrote the final section, since Gygax never had the wherewithal to buy out Kaye's widow, even if only temporarily--Melvin Blume bought the share of the company directly from the widow, then sold them to Kevin Blume. If Gygax had had the money, the story of TSR--and roleplaying--would be very different.Guinness323 (talk) 18:42, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Looks good. Can we trim it down or move some of the details about TSR? The article is mainly about Don Kaye; the Williams ownership is a bit off, unless they were friends of Kaye's. AngusWOOF (talk) 22:01, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
My only thinking was that Kaye's untimely death--or rather, his lack of estate planning--directly led to Gygax's ouster a decade later. However, I see your point. (Edit -->) Removed reference to Williams, but added a short sentence stating that control of those shares led to Gygax's ouster a decade later. Guinness323 (talk) 23:21, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. I tweaked it some more (TSR Hobbies Inc), and unlisted the possible percentages. AngusWOOF (talk) 16:46, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Another bio you might be interested in is Jean Wells. BOZ (talk) 11:43, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I am just entering final week of the term and exams, but once I break through to the other side, I will definitely take a look.Guinness323 (talk) 12:31, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
Cool, and hope you do well! BOZ (talk) 23:25, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

United Church of Canada article[edit]

FYI : Firstly you did not "revert" my "good faith" edits but only expanded on them. So I would have appreciated it if your edit summaries had stated what you actually did instead of implying that there was a problem with my edits. Secondly, the wording that I edited was actually heretical by any standard of orthodox Christian understanding of the Trinity. The wording of "God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit" would probably be acceptable to Mormons or the Jehovah's Witnesses but should not be acceptable in any mainstream Christian church. Regards Anglicanus (talk) 11:26, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

In a church that has a minister in good standing who denies the divinity of Jesus, I don't believe you will hear the word "heresy" bandied about. Nonetheless, my edit summary was overly terse, and should have been better worded, as you suggest. Guinness323 (talk) 14:30, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Palace of the Silver Princess[edit]

I re-found an old source and used it in the article. :) BOZ (talk) 19:39, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

D&D monster list[edit]

If you are concerned about preserving information on D&D monsters, you may be interested in joining the discussion at Talk:List of Advanced Dungeons & Dragons 1st edition monsters. BOZ (talk) 21:27, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Dwarf (Dungeons & Dragons)[edit]

Hey there. :) Take a look and see if there's anything you can do to help improve this article. BOZ (talk) 03:59, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

Knowlton Nash[edit]

Please provide more specific citations. Since nearly all of the citations in this article are now to that one book, having specific page numbers would help verification. Also, since the full bibliographic details of the book are already given in the article's bibliography, there is no need to repeat them in the footnote(s). 121a0012 (talk) 06:45, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Darlene Pekul[edit]

Hey there! You have done a pretty good job before of fixing up bio articles. Since Darlene's page was recently PRODed and the dePRODed, I was wondering if you could find some good sources and rework this one? BOZ (talk) 15:57, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

I'm wishing you a Merry Christmas, because that is what I celebrate. If you don't like Christmas or just don't celebrate it in any of its forms, then please accept a generic "Happy Holidays". If you celebrate no holidays at this time of year, then hopefully you will be satisfied with an even more generic "Season's Greetings".  :)

Stephen R. Marsh[edit]

Hi there!

You have definitely been helpful in working on articles of people from the earlier parts of TSR's history. I found this draft in some pretty awful shape. After a bunch of work, it is still pretty far from good, but if you could find something to improve Draft:Stephen R. Marsh then maybe I could move this one to live article space. BOZ (talk) 06:21, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Let me know if you are interested in this one, or possibly other suggestions! BOZ (talk) 23:09, 14 March 2014 (UTC)
Totally slipped my mind, thanks for the wake-up call.Guinness323 (talk) 16:41, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
I have done a quick edit of the material, still have to add references. Will do so as soon as possible. Would love to incoproate some of Marh's work on other game systems, but cannot find any independent sources to back them up. Guinness323 (talk) 20:01, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
Hey man, whatever you can do! Thanks! Is there anything useful under the "external links" section that could be used as sources? BOZ (talk) 20:10, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
I decided to publish this one to article space: Stephen R. Marsh. It's not perfect, but I figure we can give it a go - it can always be moved back if it's not exactly ready. If you have anything more to add to it down the line, you know where it's at.  ;) Thanks! BOZ (talk) 23:31, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Other RPG bios[edit]

If you have the inkling to help out with any more bios in draft space, I have a couple of dozen or so needing anywhere from a little to a lot of TLC: User:BOZ/Draft pages. BOZ (talk) 23:31, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

That is an impressive (and daunting) list of drafts. I have a few projects of my own on the go, but let me see what I can do. Guinness323 (talk) 02:46, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Tell me about it. :) I have worked on simply dozens of RPG-related bios (mostly game designers) over the past 6 months or so, and these represent the ones I have had the hardest time with - but I would like to think they are not hopeless cases. :) BOZ (talk) 03:27, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
My suggestion would be to start with Adam Jury or Chris Seeman - both were deleted as a result of AFD, and while I have been able to add a good source to both, they need just a little more before I would consider petitioning the community to have them fully restored. BOZ (talk) 16:05, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
If those don't excite you, I do know that you have been interested before in people from the early days of TSR. Maybe you would like to work on some articles I started recently, like Jeff Perren, Dave Megarry, or Eric Shook? :) BOZ (talk) 17:06, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
OK, I'll take a look at all of them and pick one out of the herd. Got a big project at work, might be a few days until I can respond. Guinness323 (talk) 23:11, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
Sounds good - whatever you can, whenever you can. :) BOZ (talk) 19:50, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

David A. Trampier would be a good place to start. :( BOZ (talk) 15:21, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

I'm wishing you a Merry Christmas, because that is what I celebrate. If you don't like Christmas or just don't celebrate it in any of its forms, then please accept a generic "Happy Holidays". If you celebrate no holidays at this time of year, then hopefully you will be satisfied with an even more generic "Season's Greetings".  :)

Merry Christmas![edit]

I'm wishing you a Merry Christmas, because that is what I celebrate. If you don't like Christmas or just don't celebrate it in any of its forms, then please accept a generic "Happy Holidays". If you celebrate no holidays at this time of year, then hopefully you will be satisfied with an even more generic "Season's Greetings".  :) BOZ (talk) 18:54, 24 December 2015 (UTC)

Arthur Currie[edit]

Any assistance on Arthur Currie would be appreciated. I was reading in the other day and noted the low level of citation and downright incorrect information. I'm not really doing any grammatical work as I was looking to get the citation level up, so the copy-editing you're doing is appreciated. Keep at it!--Labattblueboy (talk) 15:32, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes, you're doing super work. I was just sweeping up a few things. Really appreciate the improvements! Guinness323 (talk) 15:46, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

I'm wishing you a Merry Christmas, because that is what I celebrate. If you don't like Christmas or just don't celebrate it in any of its forms, then please accept a generic "Happy Holidays". If you celebrate no holidays at this time of year, then hopefully you will be satisfied with an even more generic "Season's Greetings".  :) BOZ (talk) 01:27, 24 December 2016 (UTC)

David "Diesel" LaForce[edit]

Do you have any sources that can improve longtime TSR artist / cartographer David S. LaForce? BOZ (talk) 04:03, 12 January 2017 (UTC)

I will have some time next week to check. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Guinness323 (talk) 04:51, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
Much appreciated on the save! It was leaning Keep already, but I think you helped push it in the right direction.  :) BOZ (talk) 20:20, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Glad I was able to help. I still have some print resources to check that might also add some content to the article. Guinness323 (talk) 20:42, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Sure, that would be great! And if you have time, I have ideas on other articles that need some work. BOZ (talk) 01:49, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
You have asked at a good time, let me know which articles you consider to be priorities. Guinness323 (talk) 04:12, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Looks like I mentioned previously on your talk page a few years ago Jeff Perren, Dave Megarry, and Eric Shook if you are interested in tackling those.
Right off the top of my head, I also like to finish up some draft articles so that they can be republished back into main article space. I don't know what exists in terms of sources, but you could take a look at some folks involved in early RPG work like Emmanuel, Gaye O'Keefe, or Michael Fishel? BOZ (talk) 19:19, 19 January 2017 (UTC)


I would note that several other articles are being looked at in a similar manner to this one; you have proven before that you have been able to find some sources for articles like this. Do you have the time to see what you can find? BOZ (talk) 19:53, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

  • Alas, not a great time (in the middle of a transcontinental move) but I'll do what I can. Can you suggest articles that are likely going to be targeted for deletion? Guinness323 (talk) 17:54, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
There are many, unfortunately. BOZ (talk) 20:11, 21 June 2017 (UTC)