- 1 DYK for Irish Landmark Trust
- 2 Copyright
- 3 Help on page Muire na Críostaíochta
- 4 Scrabo Tower
- 5 Drombeg
- 6 Disambiguation link notification for July 13
- 7 Thank you
- 8 Cork City Page Edit
- 9 Rosscarbery
- 10 DYK for Great Island
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- 19 Thanks for your help!
- 20 Changhua Senior High School
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- Sorry Rocketrosy. I must be misunderstanding what you are saying. Because what I seem to be reading is that you believe that, unless something is copyrighted, then it is not a reliable source. Is that what you are saying? That "only books" are reliable sources?
- If so, I would recommend you read WP:RS. While the RS guidelines favour books from reputable publishers over content from other and self-published websites, the copyright status of the work is not the determining factor there. A copyrighted work is not inherently more reliable than an uncopyrighted work. '50 Shades of Grey' is a copyrighted work. That doesn't make it a reliable encyclopedic source :)
- If dismissing or removing a source or sourced content, then please reference the relevant Wikipedia guideline. Like that on reliable sources. Rather than a personal judgement based on whether or not the author copyrighted it. Which has no relevance to reliability. Guliolopez (talk) 19:41, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
Hello, When I first starting building several of these pages, I was told repeatedly I had to have accurate sources, not facebook groups, not websites. So I really have been trying to follow this to the letter of the law. Many times websites state inaccurate information so I tend to go to government sources, particularly when it comes to US Naval Aviation. I'm not on here very much - but really wanted to offer factual insight. Thank you very much Rocketrosy (talk)
Help on page Muire na Críostaíochta
I am a contributor mainly to the French Wikipedia, and I have noticed you have contributed to the article Muire na Críostaíochta (Pilgrimage to Chartres) in Irish. I have renamed that article from Notre-Dame de Chrétienté, the organizing association, because the pilgrimage has more notability than the association in itself. I was wondering if you could make the changes also to Wikipedia in Irish ? Thanks in advance, Tpe.g5.stan (talk) 20:40, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
I am a novice and eager to learn from such an experienced wikipedian as you. You commented your recent corrections on edits I made to the Scrabo Tower article with "Copyedits. Not every sentence needs its own section. Temper introduced editorial and NPOV". I admit that I used too many headings. I do not understand what "Temper introduced editorial" means. I found out what NPOV means in Wikipedia and understand why I should not have written "visitors enjoy...". Thank you so much for your edits and guidance. I understand that this (your talk page) is the right place for my chatting and I hope I am not bothering you. Johannes Schade (talk) 17:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Hi @Johannes Schade:. You are not bothering me. No problem. I am glad to help. As you have read WP:NPOV, you might also want to read WP:WTW. And WP:EDITORIAL in particular. While trying to write a paragraph or sentence in a way that "makes sense" for the reader, we can sometimes inadvertently come to conclusions on their behalf. I have been guilty of writing like this in the past. But now recognise why this should be avoided. (For example, perhaps accidentally, suggesting that a reader should find something "notable". When perhaps the reader is perfectly capable of coming to their own conclusions. Generally it is best to avoid saying something like "Notably Smith was the first to juggle cats". When "Smith was the first to juggle cats" is perfectly fine. And lets the fact [if it is one] to stand on its own merits.) Generally speaking, and without writing in a completely 'boring' way, we should avoid being too flowery or leading or promotional in our language. Happy editing. Guliolopez (talk) 23:13, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much for promoting the article to Class C and Mid Importance! I am very pleased. I admit that the narrative about Charles was too long and the article needed refocusing on Scrabo Tower. Your edits achieved this very well. Perhaps I should add some of the discarded material to the article about Charles so that readers who want to understand why Napoleon III subscribed can find that information there. As you probably saw, I referred to the BBC Pronouncing Dictionary for the pronunciation of Scrabo. I am a bit worried whether this does not violate intellectual property rights. If all Wikipedia articles about places in the UK take their IPA pronunciation from this source, which they probably should do, a high percentage of the content of this dictionary will be reproduced in Wikipedia. I am also a bit worried about the picture of the watercolour of the tower in the frame, which I downloaded from the National Trust Collection website and uploaded to Wikicommons, pretending that the watercolour is more than 100 years old and that the photographs is just a reproduction and carries not copyright. What do you think about it? With many thanks Johannes Schade (talk) 15:41, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- Hi. RE:
- C Class - No problem. In honesty it should be a "B Class". But the lead doesn't fully represent the body. It is too short. If the lead is not expanded in the natural course of things, I will do it myself. And then reassess.
- Discarded material - Yes. If the content about Charles is not covered in the article about Charles, then please add it there. That is where it belongs.
- Pronunciation - I would not worry about this. I do not share your concern.
- Watercolour - I share your concern here. The EXIF data and source both suggest that the National Trust (and/or the photographer or the artwork) asserts some rights over this image. Or at least this version of it. (The watercolour is almost certainly out of copyright. That photograph of the watercolour may not be.) I would recommend removing it. Pending permission or clarification on the copyright status. You could email the National Trust if you think it is worth the effort.
- Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 14:14, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
Dear Guliolopez! Thanks for another round of corrections. I a still learning such a lot from you, for example not to abbreviate cardinal points. You asked me two questions: "Do we have a ref to support the suggestion that 'keeping up with the Joneses' was a factor? Or is this retrospective commentary?" I have not invented this, but some guesswork is probably involved. I read somewhere (I must find out where that was) that the Marchioness of Dufferin called Scrabo the 'copycat tower'. The article in the Dublin Builder says "size and mass were the chief objects", meaning the Londonderries wanted it big. Ideally, I would need a citation that says that the Londonderries wanted it bigger than the Dufferins' tower. I do not have such a quote and it might not exist. Does this mean that I cannot say it, or would it be acceptable if I formulated it more cautiously? Johannes Schade (talk) 08:51, 2 September 2018 (UTC) Another subject: Gaeilge. I am a foreigner living in Ireland and do not know Irish. It seems you are an expert. I found sources mentioning two possible origin of Scrabo: screabach and scraith bó. One funny thing is that the source, which is handwritten, reads scraiz instead of scraith. I heard that Irish does not use the letter z. Could you please have a look at what I wrote? I understand you want to concentrate on another project that you call GA (good article?). Possibly, you could refer me to another Wikipedian who is an expert in Irish? With many thanks Johannes. Johannes Schade (talk) 08:51, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Johannes Schade. Thanks for your note. On each point:
- Copycat. Ideally, yes, there would be a reference or quote to support the suggestion that this was their intention. Even a comment by a reliable third-party commentator (not you or I) that this was a possible intent would be preferable to nothing. ("The Dublin Builder stated that size was a key goal, and historian Joe Bloggs suggested this was because X").
- Gaeilge. I saw what you wrote. Personally I would simplify it (I don't think we need to give the reader instructions on how to click through to read the hand-written logainm.ie sources). In terms of the letter, that is not a "z". It is a "t" (in Irish script) with a "dot" over it. That dot, when placed over a consonant, makes it a lenited consonant. In short, if you see a "t" with a dot over it, it should be read as "th". "Scraith". Meaning the hand-written note reads "Scraith Bó". (Compare the "dot" in Irish to the "two dots" in a German umlaut. It changes the sound of the letter it accompanies). Anyway, I will take a stab at simplifying the text. (FYI - I'm not sure where you saw the reference to "GA". Typically, if you see "GA" used on this project, it is short-hand for "good article". However, if it was I who used "GA", then that is probably short-hand for Gaeilge. GA is the ISO 639-1 code for Irish/Gaeilge. Compare "DE" for German. "EN" for English. So, it was myself who used "GA", I probably meant Irish/Gaeilge. It it was someone else, they probably meant Good Article).
- Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 19:36, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
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So I understand I put a water mark in the picture, correct? I was confused by the message (I though someone else uploaded again the picture with a watermark). If I indeed put a watermark in the picture, I will remove it (normally I don't do that!). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vreijs (talk • contribs) 11:41, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Vreijs. As you note, I was not asking you to consider adding another (new) watermark. I was asking you to consider removing or reducing the current (existing) watermark. The current (large and blue) watermark is obtrusive ("noticeable or prominent in an unwelcome or intrusive way"). For example, your Commons image cannot really be used on Wikipedia - because the watermark is so large and obvious that it impacts the other (aesthetic) value of the image. Or, to put it plainly: your image would be nice - if it did not have the ugly watermark. The Commons project guidelines allow for visible but unobtrusive watermarks. If you do not want to remove the watermark entirely, then at least think about making it smaller. And less obvious. Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 14:58, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Vreijs: I believe the image in questions is c:File:County Cork - Drombeg stone circle - 20150328102444.jpg. Because you have released the image under a free licence someone could crop out the watermark or retouch it out, but in each case it would be preferable if you would please just reupload a new image without the watermark. We would really appreciate it. Thank ww2censor (talk) 16:05, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
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Cork City Page Edit
Hi Guliolopez, I published an image of mine to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cork_(city). I understand I should have verified that it's non-restricted for use. Thank you for clarifying the need for this. I'm in the process of releasing it to Creative Commons. Please let me know if that is the only reason for your edit and if I replace the image once it has been verified that it won't be removed? Thanks. Architecture should not be owned by anyone, because it should be for everyone. 12:41, 23 August 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul James Lee (talk • contribs)
- Hi Paul James Lee. There are two main guidelines/policies governing images:
- Image copyright - Which expects that an image "copyright holder has released the image under an acceptable free license". Given that the image was previously published (by you?) under a non-free/Commons-incompatible licence ("© Viewsion Virtual Environments & NU Millenium Digital Technologies 2014"), evidence of a change of licence is required. This can be covered (with proof of ownership and change of licence) via OTRS on the Commons project.
- Image placement - Which expects that an image "increase readers' understanding of the article's subject matter, usually by directly depicting people, things, activities, and concepts described in the article". Given that there are already several other maps included in (or linked from) the article, I'd personally question whether an additional map adds to the reader's understanding. Not least as (with the surrounding whitespace and broad scope of the map image), a reader would have to "click into" the map to understand its scope or content. Something already met via the other maps/map links (aligned with the WikiProject Maps and WikiProject Geo Coords projects). What, in your opinion, does this new map provide, which assists with reader's understanding, beyond what is already included/linked?
- Cheers. Guliolopez (talk) 13:58, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
- Hi Paul James Lee. There are two main guidelines/policies governing images:
--Architecture should not be owned by anyone, because it should be for everyone. 21:23, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
Hi thanks for your response. I submitted the image in Wikimedia and had it verified as being my own work and copyright free. Here's the link: Cork City 3D Map
I propose to place the map in the section called "places of interest". The map was is created for the very purpose of indicating the locations of places of interest in Cork City. There are no other maps that convey this information. I'm not sure how this wouldn't be seen as relevant? The image is an original work containing a huge amount of visual information.
- Hi. On the points you raise.
- "Architecture should not be owned by anyone, because it should be for everyone". A nice sentiment. Clearly heartfelt. However, while I don't disagree with the sentiment, I don't understand the relevance to this discussion.
- "My own work and copyright free". Cool. Glad you sorted that out.
- "There are no other maps that convey (places of interest in Cork)". None? That's a particularly dramatic claim. Not least given the existence of other maps of the city (including those already added-to or linked-from the article. In a manner already aligned with the project's mapping conventions.) Personally I'm not aware of any other similar article which uses a non-standard map to pinpoint a relatively select sample of buildings in the article (For example, the inclusion of buildings not mentioned in the section (like webworks), or the exclusion of key buildings which are mentioned in the section, may add more to the reader's confusion than to their understanding).
- "Original work containing a huge amount of visual information". Indeed. It does include a huge amount of information. And a significant white border. To the extent that, if added to the page, it cannot be read. Not without "clicking on it". And, even then, not without "zooming into it".
- Personally I don't see it. It doesn't follow the mapping conventions, cannot be viewed in place, has unclear inclusion criteria, and is generally not of the form typically used to illustrate city articles on the project. Don't get me wrong. It's a nice map. I like it. A lot in fact. But not for inclusion, in-line, within the article. Guliolopez (talk) 00:52, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Just noticed that in 2016 you reverted an edit(not mine), thinking a reference to the Catholic church, St Fachtna's , was redundant, as previously mentioned. The previous reference was to the Protestant church. They are both dedicated to St. Fachtna. I made a similar edit today.2001:BB6:9509:6358:C8C3:496D:5152:ED20 (talk) 16:47, 24 August 2018 (UTC) Sorry, thought I was logged inAineireland (talk) 16:50, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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Please AGF. I have no idea if they should or shouldn't be. I'm just checking the links and finding them transcluded. There are no more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:BB6:A2E:B158:2835:17EE:2763:728F (talk) 21:00, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
- Hi. I did/do assume good faith. I'm unclear what in my edit summary would have indicated otherwise. As noted however, it is perhaps best to investigate and/or fix the problem than to potentially add incorrect or misleading templates. (Two wrongs and all that). If that's the last one, then that's grand. All sorted. Guliolopez (talk) 21:05, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks for your help!
Hi Guliolopez, I wanted to thank you for helping me edit the Madison, WI page. I am new to Wikipedia, so writing in an NPOV tone that is devoid of puffery does not come natural to me. I read through all of the pages that you wrote in the comments, and realized that I still have quite a lot of changes I need to make to write in a suitable manner for Wikipedia. I hope you understand. I also wanted to thank you for your patience and time in helping to make a few of my edits more suitable for the platform. Best, Thefactmanirud (talk) 21:29, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
Changhua Senior High School
Thank you for leaving the message, so I can communicate with you. In Taiwan, junior high school students attend a national exam and choose their high school accroding to their scores. The senior High Schools which have many famous alumnus, graduates entering top universities, long history, and traffic convenience usullay become the first choice of junior high school students. Students have to get high scores so that they can be admitted. Most of those prestigious school are single-sex and established during Japanese rule. Jianguo High School, Taipei First Girls' High School, National Hsinchu Senior High School, Cheng Kung Senior High School in Northern Taiwan, Taichung Municipal Taichung First Senior High School, National Changhua Senior High School in Middle Taiwan, and National Chiayi Senior High School, National Tainan First Senior High School, Kaohsiung Municipal Kaohsiung Senior High School in Southern Taiwan are examples. Every year, the news report the students entering the schools mentioned above.   I am willing to make Wiki more detailed and the sentences I wrote was objective. Thank you for reading. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poseidonperseus (talk • contribs) 11:55, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
- Hello. Thank you for your note. None of the links or sources that you provide support a claim that National Changhua Senior High School is "one of the most outstanding high schools in Taiwan nowadays". Or "one of the top schools in Changhua County". Or "one of the most prestigious and distinguished high schools in Middle Taiwan". They do not use these terms at all. Even if the sources you provide *did* use those terms, then it would be an opinion. A subjective statement. That would require attribution. "According to XYZ report". Or "According to a survey of 123 parents". Or similar. Please do not restore unreferenced statements, unsupported promotion and unattributed opinions. Not without spending some time to address the concerns raised. Guliolopez (talk) 12:08, 15 April 2019 (UTC)