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transcription dalam bahasa inggeris sekarang?

I recognise the first line, masih sama untuk orang buddha sekarang, tetapi - yang lain :)

please... satusuro 09:48, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

If you're feeling froggy[edit]

Check out Erwiana Sulistyaningsih. I started this a few days ago, it needs a better name and a little help in details. If you read the local languages maybe you as can help expand on the info and add some sources that I can't! If you can't or don't have time that's cool but since you edit in that area I thought it might make sense ;) Hell In A Bucket (talk) 13:40, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

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Gunkarta, mengingat Anda dulu pernah bikin berkas svg tentang peta kekuasaan Majapahit, bisa nggak Anda bikin versi Bahasa Indonesia dari berkas ini ? Masalahnya berkas tersebut dipakai di artikel yang jadi AP sehingga sedikit janggal jika berkas tersebut masih berbahasa Inggris. Terima kasih --Erik Fastman (talk) 06:22, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

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Terima kasih atas pembuatan berkasnya, nih saya kasih Barnstar untuk Anda --Erik Fastman (talk) 15:02, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

name of 1999 massacres[edit]

What is the name of the 1999 massacres in Kalimantan against Madurese? It happened before the Sampit conflict, and involved both Malays and Dayaks attacking Madurese. A new article needs to be created about it. Or a general article called Anti-Madurese violence documenting all incidents of attacks on Madurese since the 1960s to today. Talk:Sampit_conflict. Rajmaan (talk) 20:30, 23 February 2014


Hi Gunkarta,

I notice you have loads of picture of skycrappers in Jakarta, is it possible for you to help me to fulfil the image of this listing? [User:Bungutebungute|Bungutebungute]](talk) 20:30, 23 February 2014

Hindu Buddhist[edit]

There should be an article linked for a category like that - as there are many issues as to what the dominant factors in any of those kingdoms were, and what evidence exists - some were more one way or the other as well. satusuro 12:43, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Hey I didnt want an essay of a reply - I was just suggesting we needed a link to an article for the category... (I was just this morning checking in a university library about the 'zaman pangeran diponegoro' - so please mohon maaf - tak mahu separti buku besar in reply) - just an idea of which article to link to....

And please what is the source for calling mataram=medang - it seems odd to me... satusuro 13:05, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

Indonesian names[edit]

I saw your recent edits to Indonesian names. I think perhaps you have added too many Arabic names. I think there should just be a few. They are examples. I don't think an exhaustive list is necessary. CorinneSD (talk) 23:48, 3 March 2014 (UTC)

12 March 2014[edit]

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Ways to improve Tondano[edit]

Hi, I'm Jnanaranjan sahu. Gunkarta, thanks for creating Tondano!

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Halo mas Gun :)[edit]

Ya udahlah klo mank ga pantas untuk dimuat di wiki -_- tapi thx buat perhatiannya :D klo misal aq ada kesalahan grammar, bantu memperbaiki ya, thx :) Okkisafire (talk) 05:31, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Nggak apa2 kok. Cuman, aq kan kebiasaan menulis artikel tentang legenda begitu, jadi penelitiannya aq anggap saja sama spt legenda :D tapi seriusan nggak apa-apa. Okkisafire (talk) 07:10, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Gambar batik[edit]

Halo Mas Gun,

Terima kasih atas bantuan anda di artikel batik akhir-akhir ini. Saya sekarang tengah berbicara dengan User:Chiswick Chap agar artikel batik dapat menjadi Good Article. Menurutnya di User talk:Chiswick Chap, gambar utama yang sekarang itu kurang bagus karena batiknya sendiri menjadi kurang kelihatan dan lebih baik diganti menjadi gambar yang anda revert. Tapi memang saya juga kurang sreg dengan gambar itu sebagai gambar utama. Bagaimana kalau untuk sementara gambar utamanya diganti dulu, nanti kalau sudah jadi good article diganti balik? Saya tanya dulu biar gambarnya nanti gak gonta-ganti. Terima kasih Alteaven (talk) 13:13, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

No, we can't have an edit-war about the lead image and conspire to put it back how it was after the GA is done, that's not acceptable and would lead to a GAR to revoke the GA and possibly to additional measures, please don't even think about it. The current image is unattractive; the museum image not very informative. The featured image was better but in fact at only medium resolution. Perhaps we can find a better image; a composite could be a solution (3 or 4 batiks of different pattern), or an image of batik being made, provided some sort of pattern can be seen. I am scanning some photographs now; we may find something acceptable among them. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:41, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
@ Chiswick. Ok, terribly sorry about that ._." Let me know if you're finished Alteaven (talk) 14:38, 27 April 2014 (UTC)

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Indonesia–Yemen relations[edit]

Hi Gunkarta, I need your help in the bilateral relations article "Indonesia–Yemen relations".

Asian cuisine / List of Asian cuisines[edit]

I note that you are a significant editor of Asian cuisine. Last year List of Asian cuisines was created, which duplicates the content and purpose of the Asian cuisine list article. Do you see any value in keeping both? The Asian cuisine list article is in a poor state with little information other than unsourced opinion, and is cluttered with too many images, and red links, while List of Asian cuisines is sourced, informative, and better organised. My feeling is that there is little content to be saved in Asian cuisine, and that it might be more useful to redirect the title to List of Asian cuisines (or vice versa). Essentially, keep one article, and work on that. What do you think? SilkTork ✔Tea time 18:44, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

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I fail to understand what is your intention User:Lee788 on posting my own message for you in my own page? Gunkarta  talk  23:02, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

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Thanks for rewriting the Bruneian Empire article, as well for your works on Indonesian foreign relations. ;) — ᴀʟʀᴇᴀᴅʏ ʙᴏʀᴇᴅ ʜᴜʜ? 23:28, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Ki Hajar Dewantara[edit]

I worked on the article on Ki Hajar Dewantara in October 2013, but I've noticed that some material seems to have been added since then that was written by a non-native speaker of English. If you have time, perhaps you could work on this article to put it into standard English. Normally, I could do that, but it is so bad that I think someone familiar with Indonesian would do a better job. CorinneSD (talk) 16:12, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

list of monarchs of java[edit]

is quite a long list of rulers - some quite imaginary ( no WP:V, WP:RS or anything to support their existence ) - thanks for providing a link - any extra links where articles havent been linked is appreciated. if it was a good list - it should have small/brief summaries of the specific kingdom/monarchy/whatever - rather than links in the headings (which is not a WP:MOS accepted practice) - it would be much easier to understand. satusuro 08:42, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

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Sultanate of Mataram[edit]

The article is making so many claims for authority - with not a WP:CITE or WP:RS tied in anywhere. It might need to be very drastically edited. Indonesian history articles with inadequate referencing must comply with WP:V - not playful Indonesian etymology - that is we think this, therefore it is true - as an online encyclopedia, Sultanat of Mataram article has gone far too long unchecked. Selamat tahun baru satusuro 04:38, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

mohon maaf kalau saya terlalu keras dengan sejarah istimewa. My apology if I seem somewhat rough with lack of wp:cite. Also - it seems the old website joglosemar whatever, is no longer in existence, and many small articles used to rely on it - are you aware of alternative online history sources? satusuro 05:11, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh dear, kesulitan besar....
  • "Mataram, Historical kingdom, Indonesia". Encyclopaedia Britannica. Retrieved 1 January 2015.

We normally do not used EB as a source... very sorry, but, it is not a usual reference. Not too sure what to say. satusuro 01:53, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

  • Very sorry - the images of Senopati, Sultan Agung - are not what professional historians call valid images of the individuals - it is a long and complicated discussion if you want it - just because Indonesian persons think/believe that the images represent what the person look like, they are not considered valid. If you want the conversation, fine, if not, please do not re-insert. satusuro 02:24, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
  • OK there is a fine line/ tempat kesulitan ? / where adding that image is a serious problem, this is an english online encyclopedia project, and readers are going to believe that the image you have uploaded is valid.

For me to not revert your edits - you need to speak. Due to the very good safeguards we have on wp en - we have a range of guidelines regarding WP:AGF - however silence does not help. No response does not help. satusuro 02:41, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

OK - give me a few days - there are issues with a lot of things, but I do not have a whole day or long stretch of time to systematically go through the problem of the article - or the image of sultan agung - it might even take me a week or two to have the time to properly compose a rather complex argument/explanation.

Mohom maaf kalau saya offend over any sensitivity regarding javanese history - I am not an expert/ahli, but... satusuro 13:28, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Bali Kingdom[edit]

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I've fixed it. It will be expanded and elaborated soon. Gunkarta  talk  10:42, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
  • Hello Gunkarta, and thanks for this article. It looks like you are using paragraphs from various Wikipedia articles as part of this article. This is perfectly fine, since Wikipedia content is free to re-use, but our license also requires attribution, that is: saying where that text came from so the edit history can be preserved. (Even if, as I've found, you were one of the original contributors of that text in the other articles, after a while other people edit it here and there, and it is that history we need to track.) So if I may ask, in future if you re-use content from other articles, if you can make the edit summary for that edit say something like "Content used from (article name), see that page for attribution" that's all that is needed to keep the license good.
  • I've gone through and identified some of those additions here and I can put tags on the talk page that do the same thing after-the-fact, so again no problem there. Thanks again for your work, and feel free to ask if you have any questions, CrowCaw 23:34, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Zheng He[edit]

You reverted the article to a version that said he was born in 1971. And the article clearly says, with reliable sources, "Zheng He was born into a Muslim family.[6][9][10] However, his religious beliefs became all-embracing and eclectic in his adulthood". So we can't call him a Muslim. Dougweller (talk) 10:45, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

February 2015[edit]

Information icon Please do not attack other editors, as you did on Talk:Soto (food). Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Huon (talk) 16:38, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't meant to, just his insistence and editing guerrilla just keep going on and on. Promised not to do it again. Gunkarta  talk  16:42, 1 February 2015 (UTC)

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Empu and pandai besi[edit]

Sorry about my edit on the kris article. I actually felt that pandai besi was more inclusive since the word empu is less common outside Indonesia. I'll retain the word empu but can I make a few minor corrections? For one, there are some unnecesary bolds in the beginning of the article. Also, for the sake of style, I replaced some mentions of the word empu with the English "smith" or "blacksmith". This is done simply for the sake of avoiding repetitiveness. Is this alright with you? Morinae (talk) 12:33, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of 2019 Southeast Asian Games for deletion[edit]

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Reply about Joko Widodo page[edit]

Thanks for your message today about recent changes to the Joko Widodo page. I agree that we should all aim for a Neutral Point of View (NPOV) on Wikipedia, especially when dealing with controversial issues such as Pak Jokowi's policies and approach. Many people feel strongly about many things. We should try to avoid these strong views affecting the Wiki pages. I agree with the approach you have been taking recently.

More broadly, there is a real risk that the Joko Widodo page will turn into a mess. There is so much controversy about so many things. The best thing that we can do -- in my view -- is try to stick to the main facts of his approach as President, and record the truly main events during his period as President. Otherwise the quality of the page will be lost. That would be a real pity because it is important to have a high-quality, factual page on the President of RI. Pmccawley (talk) 04:10, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

I wish you would not continue to post political spin which merely pushes "myths" about Jokowi. For example the assertion that he is the first president not from a rich background is just wrong - Gus Dur led a modest existence and had to work for a living. Habibie was a trained aeronautical engineer and returned to that work after being president. Further examples you continue to put that Jokowi takes a hard line against drugs - but there is no evidence of that given his political concessions for clemency and his abject failure to target Indonesian drug cartels. You have been trying to post the myth that Jokowi is the only President to take action on fuel subsidies - but all former presidents have gradually reduced these in line with civil tolerance. You cite Jokowi believes this and Jokowi believes that - but these things are mere conjecture - for example Jokowi believes fuel subsidy cuts will fund infrastructure - is just political paff - especially when there is no palpable infrastructure development occurring - in fact its slowed under Jokowi following a very big infrastructure (particularly airports) under former president SBY. The proper approach for an encyclopedia is to reference actual occurences - not try to parrot Jokowi's narrative which is generally aimed at uneducated Indonesian peasants.Suastiastu (talk) 13:48, 24 July 2015 (UTC)

Nomination of Jade Marcela for deletion[edit]

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Gunkarta, makasih kamu jaga halaman Jokowi dari yg benci dia. Mereka bilang yg dukung dia pada bohong ttg karakter/tindakkannya selagi mereka yg maki2 terus dan sita hal2 yg baik ttg kepresidenannya. (sorry ini masuk bagian salah)Bookracoon (talk) 03:02, 18 August 2015 (UTC)


It has been suggested that Kalpavriksha be merged with Wish Tree which is not desirable as Kalpavriksha is specific to Indian religious cosmology of Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism. Wish tree also covers many other aspects like wells etc. Pl record your views on the talk page of the two articles.--Nvvchar. 08:04, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Shailendra vs. Sailendra[edit]

Hi, the article was previously using the IAST spelling of Śailēndra which IMO, is confusing. Ś is romanised further to Sh which is also used by reliable sources instead of Śailēndra. Thanks. --Cpt.a.haddock (talk) (please ping when replying) 16:54, 11 September 2015 (UTC)

Indonesian dishes[edit]

Hello, Pak Gunkarta. I think you have many contributions to Indonesian related articles especially Indonesian dishes. I am interested in improving some articles but I'm troubled when it comes to search the reference. Do you know any books or good websites about Indonesian dishes? Regards. MRFazry (talk) 15:06, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Indonesian martial arts[edit]

Just wanted to mention that I am so glad you created an article for Indonesian martial arts. Too often, Indonesia's martial heritage is seen as silat and nothing else. We really needed an article which includes all the fighting styles found throughout the country. I'll get to work on putting those into the article shortly. Cheers. Morinae (talk) 17:23, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Alcohol in Indonesia[edit]

Hi, thanks for your contribution to Alcohol in Indonesia. You added "History" section with "no sources" attached to it. Kindly add sources to your addition or it will get removed. I have just created that article, I will quick search for sources but I will not go deep into it. Article is nominated and approved in WP:DYK and may feature on main page of Wikipedia, so any unsourced addition will be removed, so please provide citations within some time or I will remove it if I don't find citations in my quick search. Thank you. --Human3015TALK  06:54, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Done adding refs, you're welcome. Cheers! Gunkarta  talk  08:43, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Hi, thanks for your work on Alcohol in Indonesia. I have added your name as author of article on Template:Did you know nominations/Alcohol in Indonesia. Hope our article will feature on main page. Cheers. 🍻 Face-smile.svg. --Human3015TALK  10:21, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
That's great! thank you for your efforts and interest on Indonesian matters. Greatly appreciated... Face-smile.svg. Gunkarta  talk  16:20, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
  • Hi, please nominate Aviation in Indonesia for DYK as soon as possible, its been already late for nomination, if you delay further then they will not accept it. Regards. --Human3015TALK  20:03, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Martial arts template[edit]

It seemed silly to have both Indochina and Indonesian in the same line - but I must admit that I mis-read Indochina as Indonesian and thought it had been posted twice. The general rule is that articles must be C-class and up which Indochina is not but I have also just promoted the Indonesian to C. It is not necessary to have all country specific martial arts listed in the template. If we keep Indonesia (which I am not against) we need to delete Indochina.Peter Rehse (talk) 10:52, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

I see.., thank you for your confirmation and thank you on promoting Indonesian martial arts to c class. I do hope Indonesian martial would stay in the template. Greatly appreciated. Gunkarta  talk  11:04, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

November 2015[edit]

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Regarding this edit summary - a reminder that IPs are not second-class editors and there is no requirement to register to edit or be heard. --NeilN talk to me 13:20, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Alcohol in Indonesia[edit]

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DYK Aviation in Indonesia[edit]

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