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"Wikipedia's articles are no place for strong views. Or rather, we feel about strong views the way that a natural history museum feels about tigers. We admire them and want our visitors to see how fierce and clever they are, so we stuff them and mount them for close inspection. We put up all sorts of carefully worded signs to get people to appreciate them as much as we do. But however much we adore tigers, a live tiger loose in the museum is seen as an urgent problem." --WP:TIGER

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Only 995091819 articles left until our billionth article!

We are only 995091819 articles away from our 1,000,000,000th article... --Guy Macon

Beepi DRN

If you want some assistance, let me know. I'm keen to "get back in the game" :) Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 06:37, 30 May 2015 (UTC)

Please, jump right in, and not as a "helper" but as an equal. I have always wanted to experiment with two volunteers working the same case.
Glad to see I'm not the only one who sometimes forgets to sign :) Yeah, it's been so long since I've done DR that I'm having to learn it all over again. I'll be sure to not step on your toes (co-mediating is workable as long as both mediators are on the same page). Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 07:23, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
I've commented - sorry for the delay. It's good that the parties ending up working together on this one. :) Steven Zhang Help resolve disputes! 05:24, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

A beer for you!

Export hell seidel steiner.png Congrats on a resolved case at DRN. We don't see many of those. Nice work!! Cheers! KeithbobTalk 16:57, 10 June 2015 (UTC)

Removing religion fields with references

I'm running into broken reference names where the full reference was defined in the religion field of an infobox, as at Koenraad Elst. When you take named references out, make sure they aren't used elsewhere in an article. AnomieBOT tries to move reference definitions out of templates like this, which is a better solution. A removed reference is an easy problem to fix. Trying to find out what is wrong when the ref is still there but something went wrong with the template parsing is the real problem. Anyway, thanks for listening and for clearing up these potentially divisive religion fields. StarryGrandma (talk) 22:22, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

I will be extra careful to avoid doing that. Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 22:56, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

RFC on Religion

The RFC on religion and nations doesn't have a bot tag. Was that omitted on purpose, or should one be added, which would also enable Legobot to notify people randomly? Robert McClenon (talk) 17:29, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Good idea. I just didn't think of doing it. --Guy Macon (talk) 20:50, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

Assistance with COI edit?

Hi Guy,

You were good enough to jump in when I had an issue with an edit to Beepi.

I have done a substantial suggested edit/rewrite to another entry, Faith Popcorn, which really badly needs it. But I also have a WP:COI. So I've drafted it on my sandbox here: with background explanation on the Talk page here: and on the Talk page of the article.

Article could really use a very experienced editor to review what I'm proposing and work with me on any necessary changes. I wonder if you could do it or perhaps interest someone else you think would be good. This is an article where even Jimbo Wales weighed in about 4 years ago, to correct a hostile section, so changes merit a close look by someone experienced, I think.

Many thanks, BC1278 (talk) 18:32, 18 June 2015 (UTC)BC1278

@BC1278: Did Guy ever get back to you? I can take a look if you're comfortable with an editor that sometimes does paid editing himself participating as a volunteer; if you're not, than I won't. CorporateM (Talk) 00:50, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done I took care of it. Please feel free to ping myself or others for any other questions, proposed additions, etc. CorporateM (Talk) 18:59, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Explained at your RFC

I thought it was okay because you told Future Perfect he could and I guess I misunderstood. Discuss-Dubious (t/c) 16:31, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Not a problem. See my comment at ANI recommending closing the case as with no action needed. --Guy Macon (talk) 16:44, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Threaded discussion

I notice some users (JzG et al.) who are replying in some sections like a normal thread, not the threaded discussion like you intended (so it didn't become unreadable and messy, IIRC). Is that okay with you? Discuss-Dubious (t/c) 15:44, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

No, it isn't, but I am unsure about what the best way to avoid even more drama is. See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Archive272#RfC threaded comments where I just asked for advice. --Guy Macon (talk) 16:12, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Qualcomm Snapdragon

I noticed on WikiProject Cooperation, you said you were interested in engineering/technical articles, so I wanted to let you know about my COI work for the Qualcomm Snapdragon article here. I also pinged the engineering WikiProject, etc. CorporateM (Talk) 00:47, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

I will have some free time to look at it this afternoon. --Guy Macon (talk) 13:48, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Religion in infobox

I apologise for not checking for consensus first when I restored this; I was not aware of it. Thanks for pulling me up on it gently. Cheers, —  Cliftonian (talk)  13:54, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Arb case

Guy Macon, I appreciate you not taking the revert at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Technical 13 personally. It looks right now that this portion of the page will likely be hatted in the next 24 hours but right now, many of the clerks are away and since it was such an unusual closing, I wanted to hear feedback from clerks who are around and the arbitrators. Your interest is appreciated! Liz Read! Talk! 22:58, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

WP:BRD reverts are always welcome. This was a textbook example; my good-faith bold edit followed by a revert with an edit summary that clearly explained that there was information I didn't know, so no further discussion needed. --Guy Macon (talk) 23:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Change from announced timetable for the Arbitration enforcement arbitration case

You are receiving this message either because you are a party to the Arbitration enforcement arbitration case, because you have commented in the case request, or the AN or AE discussions leading to this arbitration case, or because you have specifically opted in to receiving these messages. Unless you are a party to this arbitration case, you may opt out of receiving further messages at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arbitration enforcement/Notification list. The drafters of the Arbitration enforcement arbitration case have published a revised timetable for the case, which changes what you may have been told when the case was opened. The dates have been revised as follows: the Evidence phase will close 5 July 2015, one week earlier than originally scheduled; the Workshop phase will close 26 July 2015, one week later than originally scheduled; the Proposed decision is scheduled to be posted 9 August 2015, two weeks later than originally scheduled. Thank you. On behalf of the arbitration clerks, L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 08:01, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Actually, since you have massmessage turned off, I'll remove you from the list; ping me if you actually do want to be notified, otherwise, no action needed. Thanks, L235 (t / c / ping in reply) 08:01, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

User:Dweller/Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values

Welcome! Good to have you in the club. --Dweller (talk) 12:25, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Baseball Bugs ANI


I have observed some of your dealings with this editors misdemeanour's. I broadly support your stance and position on him. Would you like to assist on collating some evidence that could be presented at ANI. Or failing, arb cob.

Thank you. -- (talk) 12:27, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I am not convinced that there is anything there that requires administrator intervention, especially considering how many times he has been taken to ANI in the past. My advice is to ignore him (something that I failed to do recently and regret). That being said, if you can put together specific diffs showing policy violations, I would be willing to comment. I certainly haven't made it a point to examine his posting history and may have missed a lot of things. --Guy Macon (talk) 12:43, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
The IP is probably the same proxy-hopper who's been after me for at least 6 years. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 13:25, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in-for-me! --Dweller (talk) 14:30, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Navy binoculars.jpg Beware! This user's talk page is monitored by talk page watchers. Some of them even talk back.
Not "all" by any means. Just one. That one guy. Not a major problem. Just a gnat that turns up from time to time. By now I'm fairly sure I know who it is, going back to one particular issue possibly as far back as 2007, but BLP and Outing rules forbid my saying it here. :) ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:37, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
This conversation is a prime example of not ignoring disruption. The IP editor posted what appears to be a reasonable question, so I gave the same answer I would have given to anyone else who asked. If BB makes reasonable comments, he will be treated the same with no reference to any past unpleasantness. When it goes past that (say if the IP started trying to make his case against BB here or BB -- as we see above -- tried to make a case against the IP) I will ignore the comment and I would ask my faithful minions ... err ... loyal henchmen ... umm ... hireling thugs ... uh ... talk page watchers to do the same.
Speaking of which, BB, you may not be aware of my recent pledge at User:Dweller/Old Fashioned Wikipedian Values, but I am serious about it. I hope that advising others to ignore certain interactions you have with other editors doesn't offend you, but I honestly believe that doing so is what is best for the encyclopedia. I apologize if my attempt to lighten up a tense situation with a bit of harmless humor above causes you any distress. Dweller isn't really my "hireling thug". That's a volunteer position. --Guy Macon (talk) 18:54, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
That's a noble pledge. I haven't seen your apology for that cartoon fantasy. Did I overlook it? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:20, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
User:Baseball Bugs, I apologize for using an ASCII art cartoon to encourage people to ignore you in such a way that you interpreted it as a fantasy about murdering you with a missile strike. For the record, I had no such intent in my mind at the time and nobody else seems to have interpreted it that way. I really was just trying to say "ignore Baseball Bugs if he behaves in certain ways" with a bit of humor that I had no idea you would be offended by. I do not know or care who or where you are and I do not own or control any missile systems of any kind. I apologize. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:10, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. I accept, and I shall not speak of this again. I hope we're good from here on out. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 03:17, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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