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RFC/USER discussion concerning you (HCPUNXKID)[edit]

Hello, HCPUNXKID. Please be aware that a request for comments has been filed concerning your conduct on Wikipedia. The RFC entry can be found by your name in this list, and the actual discussion can be found at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/HCPUNXKID, where you may want to participate. Kransky (talk) 14:29, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

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December 2009[edit]

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Please cite your sources when you change dates of historic events, as you did in El Aaiún. Your edit has been reverted since you gave no explanation or reference for the edit. -kotra (talk) 19:39, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


Diplomatic missions of Saharawi[edit]

Thank you for your contributions to this article. I did find earlier a website that said there were Saharawi missions in Madagascar and India, but then I found something else that said India no longer recognised the Saharoud government, so I presume there is no presence in New Delhi.

I recall back in the 1990s there was an embassy or some kind of mission in Hanoi. Do you know anything about it?

On some of your more recent edits:

  • I am pretty sure there is no mission in Dili. The website you used as a source only mentioned that the Ambassador presented his credentials. Most ambassadors to Timor Leste are usually resident elsewhere, typically Jakarta or Canberra.
  • Speaking of which, I live in Canberra, and I am certain there is no Sahrawi office or delegation here.
  • If you wish to contribute in future, could I ask that you follow the same formatting as we use in all the other articles? We do not list types of missions separately. We group missions according to specific continents. We do not list cross-accreditations etc.

Thanks! Kransky (talk) 13:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello!. I have no idea of that Sahrawi delegation in Hanoi you mention, I will search about it. In the case of India & Madagascar, both countries suspended relations with the SADR in 2000 & 2005, so the Sahrawi embassy in New Delhi was closed. I dunno if there's still a General delegation there. In the case of Timor Leste, I think there's a non-resident embassador (Timorese foreign affairs page ain't updated since 2004). Perhaps he lives in Australia, because he's also the representative for Australia & New Zealand (see the link[1]). Perhaps the General Delegation is in Melbourne,Perth or other major Australian city. The problem is that Australia dont have official diplomatic relations with the SADR. Regards.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 16:29, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
If you can find details about Hanoi, include it, but I suspect there has been a global shift away from recognising SADC.
The Diplomatic Missions by Country (DMBC) articles are only intended to list diplomatic missions (as their names imply), and not non-resident accreditations or honorary consulates. There is also a consistent format that we follow in terms of what information we include and how we present it. You can visit the other 180+ articles and see how this consistency is applied Kransky (talk) 11:02, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
I understand there is a consistent format to be used at the DMBC pages, but that cannot be an obstacle to bring as more info as we can (This is suppossed to be a encyclopedia, ain't it?). Also, the case of the SADR (as for example, the case of Palestine) is special, as it's a limited-recognition state, so it's not equal as, for example, Morocco or Algeria. P.D. I finally find that the Australia & New Zealand general delegation is based in Sidney.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 15:29, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate your enthusiasm, but just because you have found a novel fact does not warrent its inclusion in Wikipedia (see WP:INDISCRIMINATE). Nor is it appropriate to propose a totally new style - the Wikipedia:Manual of Style expressly forbids edit-warring over styles. If you want to become involved with DMBC articles, may I suggest you first look at how these 180+ articles are developed together before proposing something revolutionary to the broader community.
Do you have evidence of a SADC presence in Sydney? I could only find the Australian Western Sahara Association (awsa.org.au), which is an advocacy group and does not claim to speak on behalf of the SADC government-in-exile, or have any other quasi-diplomatic status.
So, why does consistency matter? To demonstrate that all countries, irrespective of how well recognised or powerful they are, are treated equally in being represented on Wikipedia. Consider consistency as a means of protection, as equality and "one-rule-for-all" principles has helped prevent conflicts emerging by people claiming a certain article should not be included, or included in a different way. Kransky (talk) 09:00, 11 May 2010 (UTC) Kransky (talk) 09:00, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Also, If you ask me to not change or delete info, I ask you for being more careful & not deleting references (for example the reference of the SADR embassy in South Africa).--HCPUNXKID (talk) 16:05, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you for accepting the formatting to this article. It is true that we encourage editors to cite sources, however if they have linked the page to a reliable primary source (such as the website of the country's foreign ministry where all their missions are listed) then this is not really necessary. In the SADR case because a comprehensive official list does not exist, we need to find other sources to confirm our facts and be accountable to them. As it is, I have searched for a SADC presence in Australia, and having not found anything, any mention of a SADC in Australia would definitely need some form of citation.
And thank you again for ceasing your bold edits to the rest of the articles. To get a consensus could you contact some of the editors and ask them what they think? I will see what the general mood is before casting my vote Kransky (talk) 10:06, 12 May 2010 (UTC)


Diplomatic missions - flags[edit]

Could I ask you to propose bold ideas first, on one or two articles first? T think you may have a reasonably good idea, but lets think it through first (I think it is more appropriate to refer to multilateral organisations by their formal names, not acronoms). Other editors may have a contrary view. Could you please revert back all the articles except one, and then seek a consensus from other established editors? Some editors are listed here: Category talk:Lists of diplomatic missions by sending country Kransky (talk) 15:24, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

User Warnings[edit]

HCPUNXKID, As a consequence of you reversion of List of diplomatic missions of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, and your decision not to provide a source proving Australia hosts a SADR diplomatic mission (or to provide a reason why a source was unnecessary), unfortunately I have been compelled to place a warning template on your talk page. Could you please provide evidence that Australia hosts a SADR mission? I have also flagged a warning template on your decision to change the formatting of the article without seeking consensus, when I have on two occasions raised this concern with you directly. Please refer to the General Principles of Wikipedia:Manual of Style.

Kransky (talk) 15:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
As cited above, thank you for your cooperation. If this does not go ahead, could you please revert back all the changes you made? Kransky (talk) 10:06, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Initiation of dispute resolution procedures[edit]

Evidently we cannot agree to what goes into this article, and I note a previous editor also had issues with your edits. This is no great drama - good faith disputes are a common occurance in Wikipedia, and there are processes in place to resolve them.

My argument is that you have not yet provided what I consider is reliable evidence that the SADC government has an official presence in a number of countries, particuarly countries which do not recognise the SADC's sovereignty in Western Sahara. Indeed I have actively searched for anything that could corraborate your claims, but I have found nothing, although I stand corrected on the SADC having a presence in Addis Ababa (I am still uncertain about the authority of the website that claims SADC missions in New York and Geneva, but I will let that slide).

You have repeatedly told me to refer to sources (like this website) which you claim proves your point, but I cannot see any evidence that the persons mentioned run are "general delegations", or even if they have any form of legitimacy within the SADC.

If you consider other DMBC articles are insufficiently referenced, your efforts to improve those articles by finding references or adding "citation required" annotations would be appreciated. Just because one article is not to-the-letter consistent with a policy doesn't justify the elimination of that policy.

I understand your keen interest in the rights of the Sawahari people, as you specify on your user page, but I do not believe their cause is advanced by misrepresenting particular persons as "general delegations", no matter how well meaning the intent. In recognising your good faith, might I also politely ask you review what exactly Vandalism is before making such accusations.

Consequently I will revert the article back, but I am happy to direct this dispute to a third party to have it resolved if you still want to press the issue. Since the crux of our disagreement is over your reference material, might I suggest the matter be directed to the Reliable Sources noticeboard? Alternatively Wikipedia:Third opinion could be another option. Any thoughts?

I will post this message on both our talk pages, and the article talk page. As indicated earlier please lets debate this on just one board. Kransky (talk) 05:50, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

RfC[edit]

Thanks I would definitely be happy to help you--and I'd like to point out how much I appreciate your effort on Western Sahara-related articles--but I'm not sure how much I could help you. Honestly, the best thing I could do is probably stay out of it. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 20:31, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit-warring on Legal status of Western Sahara[edit]

Please stop You cannot have an edit war on this page; it will result in some kind of block or ban. Please seek an admin at WP:AN to intervene. He can protect, mediate, etc. Please see WP:DISPUTE. —Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 20:42, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

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Hey[edit]

Can you show me proof the Western Sahara War started in 1975 and Spain didn't participate in the war? B-Machine (talk) 14:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

You got it wrong. The armed struggle did start in 1973 when the Polisario Front fought against the Spanish, three years before their pullout. B-Machine (talk) 16:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Bouchraya Hammoudi Bayoun[edit]

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Western Sahara lists of positions[edit]

Regarding multiple issues, edits, etc. with this content I posted in Template talk:Western Sahara lists of positions. I don't know if you check this page (or the Template edit history where I also posted a link to there), that's why I post here. Please go on the talk so that we can discuss the issues. Alinor (talk) 09:02, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I replied there, please review and respond. Alinor (talk) 09:32, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

RE: Western Sahara & Arab world protests[edit]

This is the last time I'm going to say this. There is no relation whats so ever to the current protests. Why are you so desperate to add it in? It doesn't matter if its similar and no one has probably heard of that little protest. The current protests started in Tunisia on December 18 and it spread from there so any protest that happened before doesn't belong on the page. By claiming it started on October, you are contradicting the article. Notice you are the only one trying to add it. There are plenty reasons on the talk page.TL565 (talk) 15:03, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Are you blind? The argument is right in front of you. Look, I know you live there and are desperate to make the WS look like it made an impact but that still does not mean you can add incorrect info to the page. Unless you can find protests in the WS that happened after December 18, feel free to add it in. If you make the same edits again it will be regarded as spam. Everyone else seems to agree.TL565 (talk) 18:37, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Owner of the page? Ask yourself that. I have people on my side, you don't. Nobody but you believes the protests started before the proper date. In that case, you might as well add all the protests that happened decades before because they are similar. Its not sacred its fact. What are you trying accomplish anyway? So far, nobody agrees with you. Why don't you add something about protests happening in WS now? I hear protests just started this month. Anyway I'm done with you. Don't comment on my page again.TL565 (talk) 20:34, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
Support --I agree these protests were in no way instigational or influential to the protests in Tunisia, Algeria, Egypt etc and therefore not relevant whatsoever, one person claiming it to be does not make it so, there is absolutely no factual proof/evidence of it being related to any of the other protests, like TL565 stated, if we are to include it we might as well include countless of other protests that predate the ones that started in Tunisia on December 18Kapoon129 (talk) 20:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)

Re: Embajada Saharaui en Montevideo[edit]

Me alegró tu mensaje y saber también, que haya mas usuarios como vos editando en páginas relacionadas al pueblo saharaui y a la RASD. Te cuento que he tenido problemas con un usuario que, además de revertir mis ediciones en el artículo sobre el Sahara Occidental (Western Sahara), me acusa de vandalismo, simplemente porque agrego información de una fuente distinta (de la ONU misma) a la que él defiende (y que además es incorrecta). Te invito a que leas el artículo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Sahara y su página de discusión: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Western_Sahara, para que te enteres del altercado que tengo con el usuario http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yusuf_ibn_Tashfin. Éste usuario también se empeña en querer imponer su punto de vista (el marroquí) en artículos de la Wiki en español, bajo el nombre de http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usuario:Texufin, con el cual ha sido bloqueado varias veces ya, por tener problemas con otros editores. Espero puedas ayudarme a aportar para mejorar éste artículo también, añadiendo fuentes fidedignas y neutrales como lógicamente debe ser. Un cordial saludo. MauriManya (talk) 03:10, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

February 2011[edit]

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March 2011[edit]

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Spanish userboxes[edit]

Your userpage is entirely in Spanish - while on the English wikipedia, do you not think it would be appropriate to use English userboxes? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smart30 (talkcontribs) 03:10, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

Yep, you are right, I had to change them, but I had not much time, and sincerely I am not sure on how to do it. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 19:31, 15 March 2011 (UTC)

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NPoV on Western Sahara related articles[edit]

Hello,

I think that you should read WP:IRS, especially paragraph 4.2.

A primary source can't be reliable, except if it is used as a source to show the position/declaration of one of the involved actors. You can't use SPS or MAP excepting to cite Polisario and Moroccan gov's declarations and positions, neither can be reliable a blog or a website which shows a clear position in favor of one of the two sides.

Omar-Toons (talk) 19:34, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Blocked[edit]

Given your regular appearances on various administrators' noticeboards recently with a number of editors complaining about your combative editing style, article ownership and possible POV concerns, and the fact that you've continued edit warring despite being told at ANI not to (your edit history is shocking), I've blocked your account for 48 hours. I very strongly suggest that you take a much more cautious approach to editing when your block expires, otherwise you can expect to receive longer blocks in future. EyeSerenetalk 10:22, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

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Edit warring at 2010–2011 Sahrawi protests[edit]

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Official language of the Sahrawi republic[edit]

On the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic a recurring issue going back over years is that some editors insist on including Spanish in the info box. This would be fine if Spanish was an official language but it is not: Constitution - Article 4:La langue arabe est la langue nationale officielle.[Trans: The Arab language is the national official language (no Spanish!)]. I am dropping you a note here because you previously edited this article and not many people are bothered with it so perhaps you could participate and help put down these attempts to include inaccurate information...Thanks. 109.76.199.226 (talk) 09:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

Category sorting[edit]

Since "Saharawi democracy activists" is a subcategory of "Saharawi people", there's no need to include both the master category and the sub; just one or the other would be fine. Cheers, Khazar (talk) 17:14, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Sahrawi protests[edit]

Last year's protests ended in early November, with just a couple of fights at a high school thereafter. This year's protests began in late February after commentators and later Polisario figures observed that the Arab Spring was something that Sahrawis were watching closely and taking to heart. Considering the gap in between protests in early November and late February and the change in the political conditions of the region, I think it's absolutely appropriate to split the protests into two articles. -Kudzu1 (talk) 01:52, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

I disagree strongly. Your appreciation is based wether on your personal opinion or in the personal opinion of a unique non-neutral source, as it is the Moroccan director of Dahkla music festival, wich is not a reliable source (also, he dont say that the Dahkla events where the start of something new, he only said that he believed that they were influenced by the Arab Spring. Much people also think that the Arab Spring was influenced by the Gdeim Izik camp, so who influence who?). I repeat, there are not evidences to split the article in two parts. If you use the argument of the decline of violence and protest in the gap between late 2010 and early 2011, same thing should be done for example with Yemen (since January 2011 there had been ups & downs on the level of protest until the current unrest) and so on with other countries. Please, lets try to be neutral, fair and avoid double-standarts. Regards.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 17:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Oubi Buchraya Bachir[edit]

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SADR[edit]

Dear HCPUNXKID

I have no double standards with regard to the SADR and the other unrecognized states you mentioned. Indeed, I'm not sure if I have worked on the list of recognizing states of the states you mentioned. I was just adding that most of the early states the recognized the SADR were communist or "third worldist" states and that one of the causes, I think, that successive US presidents backed Morocco. One can say they were right or wrong to do so, but I think showing what type of states backed the SADR gives the reader a better illustration of how the western Sahara conflict fit in with the larger ideological conflict between pro-western and third worldist and communist states during the late 1970s and 1980s.

I have been thinking that including the types of states that recognized the State of Palestine, Republic of China etc. would indeed also illustrate these (still ongoing) ideological conflicts, but I haven't had much time to devote to large scale Wikipedia projects lately as I have been on the cusp of graduating from college and attempting (perhaps futilely) to enter a graduate program in political science...a stressful and time consuming process.

While I have this opportunity, could you tell me something about how the Western Sahara issue is perceived in Spain? I perceive that it is still a sensitive issue, but its ideological and political significance to domestic Spanish audiences seems unclear from what I have read online.

Sincerely Jonathan--Dudeman5685 (talk) 02:49, 11 November 2011 (UTC)

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List of diplomatic missions of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic[edit]

I have reopened the debate for you here. Please explain in Talk:List of diplomatic missions of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic why this article should list entries you describe as being diplomatic missions. Kransky (talk) 17:32, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

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Western Sahara[edit]

I would like to express my appretiation regarding your work on Western Sahara War articles - it is a really blessed thing, somebody is finally doing a serious job on it. I did begin to organize it, but it has been pretty hard task for me alone, especially considering the conflict wasn't on my top priorities list. Keep on.Greyshark09 (talk) 21:17, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

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Libyan civil war[edit]

Hey. I just wanted to explain *why* I am reverting your edits. It is not because I agree or disagree with them, it is because they are potentially controversial (as they have all been added before and were contended then as well) and thus they need to be discussed on the talk page, and a consensus reached before adding them into the article, per wikipedia convention. Instead of simply reverting my edit, could you please talk about it on the article talk page, so that multiple editors can state their views, and we can come to consensus? Thanks! Jeancey (talk) 17:09, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

It doesn't really matter what the sources say at this point, because there are plenty of reliable sources for both points of view. It is a contentious edit, therefore protocol dictates that the article is reverted to the state prior to the edit, and a discussion takes place. I would ask you to please self revert your edit and move it to the talk page. Unilaterally making controversial changes to a high profile article is not a good thing. Please discuss on the articles talk page, and do not re add the information until a discussion can take place. Jeancey (talk) 17:52, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
I am well aware of what wikipedia is. There are reliable sources for both sides of the argument. Saying your sources are better or more reliable than other, equally reliable sources, and calling them "so-called rebels" can be seen as pushing a point of view. When the discussion takes place, I would suggest refraining from such point of view comments and wording, as many who might take your side would side against you because of it. Jeancey (talk) 17:59, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
I am a member of wikiproject Libya. The flag that is displayed is controlled by the Flag template, which is a wikipedia wide template that I have no direct control over. I was a member of wikiproject Libya when the flag was still the solid green flag. I did not change it, there was a discussion on the flag template (which I had no part it) and it was changed. I can no more control the flag than I could control any other countries flag. Jeancey (talk) 18:17, 7 March 2013 (UTC)
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Coat of arms of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic[edit]

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Islamic flags[edit]

I've reverted your edit since, it seems to me, you're comparing apples and oranges. You are welcome to take your case to the talk page. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 18:00, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

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Wow, simply incredible, the ip user had vandalized my page twice (see my user page history) and Im the one blocked. I recognize that my message had very bad language, but what can I do when that user continue to vandalize my user page without any response?. Im not gonna get mad about it, but this is non-sense.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 22:59, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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That was pretty disgusting. If you can't see a problem with your vitriolic response to petty vandalism, then I'm not sure that unblocking you would be helpful. Kuru (talk) 23:13, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

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re Nigerian Civil War[edit]

I said this in the edit summary but I wanted to share here too: I removed Benin from the belligerents list a few months ago because, having existed for only a few hours, it wasn't really more than the proclamation of a single man, and it surely ceased to exist before it could use its name in any meaningful way. Please discuss on the talk page. Thanks. :) --Golbez (talk) 16:11, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

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Removal of POV tag[edit]

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Regarding Iranian support for South Yemen[edit]

Here is the relevant quote from the source that amply supports the edit: "Moreover, many Herakis accuse Mr Hadi’s government of slandering their movement by accusing it of ties to Iran. While such accusations were at first widely discounted by Western diplomats, some Herakis acknowledge that some factions get support from Iran but say it is exaggerated by their opponents to distract attention from local grievances." Please stop reverting.Fotoriety (talk) 11:43, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

I would recommend that both tags be removed. The vague tag is not needed because as the page clearly says "Iran (some factions)", it is not vague in any way but rather specific. As for the citation tag: how can you say "as with that source we cannot state that the South Yemen Movement is supported by Iran" when south Yemenis themselves have admitted this? So if you cannot respond to these 2 points adequately then i will remove your tags.Fotoriety (talk) 23:51, 8 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh, so that's what you meant by vague. OK, sorry, i agree with your logic in that regard. However, you have not convinced me why the citation tag is needed. So would you like to try again?Fotoriety (talk) 15:11, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I disagree with your citation explanation because the citation tag is misleading to readers. A citation tag is for unsourced claims only. It isn't for vague claims. The sourced claim clearly says that Iran is helping the South. I think the citation tag should be removed in order to not mislead readers into thinking no source is given. If you would like to encourage more detailed sources then please find a better tag that targets that demand.Fotoriety (talk) 23:34, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Of course. Nicely said.Fotoriety (talk) 11:06, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Arabic is THE official language in SADR (Art. 3: Arabic language is the official national language - SADR Constitution).[edit]

Art. 3: "Arabic language is the official national language" (SADR Constitution). End of. Frenchmalawi (talk) 01:23, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

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SOHR and "Facebook"[edit]

Laying down a few points:

  • Facebook isn't being used as a "source". As far as I know, Mark Zuckerberg isn't releasing information on the conflict. Facebook is a publisher of sources, not a source itself.
  • There is local agreement to allow limited use of partisan media in battle articles—particularly SOHR's death tolls, as they are the most detailed ones released.

It's not a perfect solution (I was initially opposed to it myself and still have reservations), but there really isn't one as far as covering this war is concerned. I would recommend taking this up with User:EkoGraf, who is the main compiler of casualties, if you really want to argue. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 22:34, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

You totally misunderstood me. There WAS consensus, it was something like 6-7 editors who were in support of the move to include it as a source while just one or two were against it but backed down at the end. That's why I said most. Editor Lothar also told you that there is an agreement among editors of the Syrian civil war articles to use it as a source. The posts are not posts by individuals (which Wikipedia does not condone), they are posts by the organisation SOHR as their OFFICIAL english version statements/updates on events in the conflict and is their official Facebook page which is being used by highly credible and reliable media. That info (from the posts) is directly used by the mainstream media like BBC news, Guardian, Telegraph, Reuters, AFP, AP, etc. That proves its reliability. A few more editors over the years spoke out about their reservation on using it (like you) and it was discussed at the main civil war article many times, but a general consensus in the end was always to include the info. If you have a problem with it please start up a discussion on the issue at the main Syrian civil war articles talk page so others could be included. EkoGraf (talk) 16:50, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Listen, it was agreed by consensus among editors of the Syrian civil war to use it as a source because they are official posts and not posts by individual persons. It wasn't just my sole decision as you are making it out to be, it was the decision of more than half a dozen editors. And it was decided by consensus that SOHR facebook posts would be exempt from the rule you are constantly pointing to. In essence you are going against consensus. If you don't like it than please start a discussion on the main Syrian civil war page so other editors can be also included to voice their opinions and please don't engage in edit war. EkoGraf (talk) 14:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
And P.S. I am actually of the opinion that Russia Today and Press TV should be used on Wikipedia as well, but most pro-Western editors, which make up the bulk of the English Wikipedia community, don't regard them as reliable so they are excluded. That's in my opinion a non-neutral attitude, while Wikipedia should allegedly be advocating neutrality. EkoGraf (talk) 15:14, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Lobby? Contradict? What? Sorry my friend I really have no idea what you are talking about, you not making a lot of sense. Seems you are trying to make me out something I'm not and your hostile tone seems to be in clear defiance of Wikipedia's guideline on civility. If you got a problem than go and explain it at the main Syrian civil war article, otherwise please don't talk to me, unless you want to talk reasonably with the aim of reaching a compromise, and not just edit war and push your own POV. As for Russia Today and Press TV, I expressed my personal opinion, because I have a right to free thinking, however I am able to exclude my personal feelings from my work/editing on Wikipedia and stick to a neutral POV (which Wikipedia requires) even though others are not able to. That's not contradiction, that's following the rules even if you don't like them. Cheers! EkoGraf (talk) 12:46, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
P.S. I am not seeing a reason why you removed the main SOHR site that I put up as a source this time. It has nothing to do with Facebook so your previous reasons that you put out are not applicable in this case since its not a social media site. So please refrain. Thank you. EkoGraf (talk) 12:55, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Dude, as long as SOHR is attributed and only used when news sources are not available, it's fine. It's reliable enough that "The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is commonly used as a standalone source for news and statistics". Please stop removing them, unless you can replace them with reliable news sources (meaning not RT, PressTV, SANA, etc.)--FutureTrillionaire (talk) 13:47, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

I changed the source yesterday but you reverted again even without looking. As for the claim thing, I am more comfortable with opposition claim. Although I don't see a reason for the notice at all since the credibility of SOHR is well established, but whatever. EkoGraf (talk) 17:50, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

I never said they were not connected with the opposition. They are an opposition activist group. However, their credibility and reliability has been proven to be high. If you would read just a fraction of the news articles about SOHR itself you would see that the opposition itself hates SOHR. Why? Because they have bothered to document and report not just civilian fatalities in the conflict but also rebel fighters and even government soldiers killed. Plus they have also extensivaly reserched and reported on not just government war crimes but rebel war crimes as well. Thus showing a high level of neutrality, which has earned them the anger of other opposition activist groups (who only count civilians and report on government war crimes exlusivaly) but it has also earned them a great deal of respect from international media for their non-biased position on all reporting. And my personal respect as well. I for one was heavily against using Libyan opposition sources during that countries civil war because of the high probability of propaganda warfare, however SOHR has showed time and again that, even though they are against Assad, they are there for the truth, not just the info that could benefit the opposition. EkoGraf (talk) 22:38, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Well, that's your personal POV my man, with which the BBC, Reuters, AFP, AP, MSNBC, etc. as well as virtually all the editors on the Syrian war articles, who are using SOHR as a source, don't agree with. Try reading some of these articles to get some insight before forming an opinion [3][4][5] In any case, we resolved our issue for now so nothing more to discuss. Cheers! EkoGraf (talk) 23:03, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

May 2013[edit]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Damascus offensive (2013). Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

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Hello there HCPUNXKID! I just wanted to say thank you for your recent work on adding the awards of Muammar Gaddafi to his Wikipedia page. However, I wondered if it would be worth (depending on how much longer you intend to make this section), splitting off this section to create its own separate article. Over at the Nelson Mandela page, we faced a similar situation, and decided to create List of awards and honours bestowed upon Nelson Mandela as a result. Perhaps we should do the same with Gaddafi ? Best, Midnightblueowl (talk) 10:17, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Agreed, there is no need to split this section off just yet, but if it gets any longer, then this will have to be a distinct possibility. Best, Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:12, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm not exactly sure what your point was with those comments. Did you mean that the IP adding unsourced derogatory material to a BLP was suspicious or my removal was? Or did you mean the subect of the article was a suspicious character? Either way your "calm down" directive to me was just odd. I was and remain very calm. Could you enlighten me? What were you trying to convey? Capitalismojo (talk) 12:07, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

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fights on the 80th military base.[edit]

I'm accused of vandalism by User:Johnsy88 about the 80th brigade military base. You have participated to the edition of the Battle of Aleppo (2012–13). Could you testify or give your opinion, please? Thanks Tienouchou (talk) 17:06, 13 November 2013 (UTC)

Tienouchou When a user reverts an edit to a WP article citing "13:17, 12 November 2013‎ Tienouchou (talk | contribs)‎ . . (226,959 bytes) (+212)‎ . . (Undid revision 581309781 by Johnsy88 (talk) pro-regime propaganda)" this is a clear breach of the NPOV rule firstly and also potential move towards edit warring. I would suggest you read WP:POV, WP:WQT and WP:EW Johnsy88 (talk) 16:03, 17 November 2013 (UTC)


NPOV/johnsy88 talk page post[edit]

Firstly i would like to make you aware of the WP:NPOV policy that editors of WP must follow. At present you are making numerous edits to the page Battle of Aleppo (2012–13) as per Battle of Aleppo (2012–13): Revision history. Your WP userpage User:HCPUNXKID clearly states that your edits on such controversial issues as the syrian conflict may be brought under the spotlight. This is due to the fact that on this userpage you list some of the following user tag beliefs - "This user is opposed to the House of Saud.""This user does not support the United Nations.""This user believes the US, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Pakistan are the world's main sponsor states of terror.""This user supports the will of the Kurdish people for an independent Kurdish state.""This user opposes all forms of Islamism and Islamofascism, but is not opposed to Islam as a religion."" All of these user tags could raise questions towards your suitability to make edits on pages such as "Battle of Aleppo (2012–13)" due to the fact that the organisations (previously mentioned) in your user profile user tags are involved at present either politically or militarily in the aforementioned conflict. This can/will be construed by certain editors as a direct violation of the WP:NPOV policy. I would like to state furthermore that this is simply being brought to your attention and that if you wish you may maintain the Status quo however adhering to the above mentioned points and understanding WP:NPOV will help to not only reduce edit warring but also set an example to other users.

Also many thanks for your previous post on my talkpage. As per WP:TALK guidelines "There is reasonable allowance for speculation, suggestion, and personal knowledge on talk pages, with a view to prompting further investigation," I am quite within my right to reply to any comment that directly mentions my edits on WP. I would please ask that in future you advise users such as Tienouchou wishing to consult on matters concerning his objections to WP:VAN to refrain from directly naming users unless he wishes to draw attention to such a matter directly resulting in replies from X WP users/escalation to WP:AN/I . Thank you for your cooperation on this issue Johnsy88 (talk) 09:36, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

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You are editing a page which relates to all the the previously mentioned user tags on your profile. This will be deemed as controversial and will be brought up as WP:POV if taken the wrong way by any user they will report this as such and the obvious consequences will follow. THIS IS NOT AN ATTACK ON YOUR BELIEFS which apparently you believe it is. This is a factually based observation which you have taken the wrong way.
2nd: My post about POV was in relation to the edits made on the Battle of Allepo article and its relation to your user boxes. Not towards your user page directly nor your talk page.
3rd: I am not a "fascist" nor have i made accusations in any form and by carefully reading the grammar and context of my message on your talk page you will see this
4th: If you have an issue with my username or feel that i am in breach of POV then i would suggest you report it through the correct channels.
I am not here to WAR with you in any way nor start tit for tat arguments. I am simply pointing out a fact and trying to help you. If you decided to take my advice or not is up to you but i would ask that you remove your comment from my talk page that i am a "former British Army soldier, most edits on fascism-related articles, and using 88 (what means in far-right circles HH-Heil Hitler) in your nick. That smells like some ultra ideology instead of apolitical" as this is a personal attack and if it is not removed i will raise this issue with the admins. If you feel that i am a fascist then look at my youtube page under "the holocaust" and decide for yourself. Johnsy88 (talk) 10:20, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
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Template:Syrian civil war detailed map‎[edit]

Good afternoon! I am writing to you because I can see that you are a normal party which objectively examines news and edits only when there are sound arguments. But you see, what they do Sopher99 and Alhanuty. They distort the facts and change the map as they want and even do not hide the fact that they are all his changes were in favor of the opposition.37.52.27.151 (talk) 16:46, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

Yep, I know, but sadly, there's not much we can do about their vandalism and POV-pushing. I've had personally bring Sopher99 case to the administrators board, but with no results. Perhaps if several users made a common denounce of their attitude on the administrators board, we can gain, but Im not optimistic about it. Sincerely, and its sad to say this, I think since a year ago or more that some users had permission from some administrators to do things that if they were make by other users would be banned and severely punished. I dont know if its because they are friends, because they follow common objectives or what, but its a serious setback to Wikipedia's credibility...--HCPUNXKID (talk) 17:14, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

And I will help you find the participants to help write a collective complaint to the list of participants. And by the way user Alhanuty flagrantly violated the rule 1RR.

Here's the proof:

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Eastern al-Ghouta Suburb. and Aleppo[edit]

Good day! You can not edit data accuracy:

Abbadah,Deir Salman and Oteibah under the control of the army!

Alhanuty used source of opposition based on a video clip from YouTube militants. Not one of the neutral reliable sources have not confirmed. is not a reliable source http://eaworldview.com/2013/11/syria-forecast-battles-east-ghouta-near-damascus/#ghouta

bahariya and qasimiya militants were captured but were repulsed army!

The Syrian troops repelled the rebels' attack against military positions and checkpoints at the towns of Baharieh, Al Qasimieh, and Qaria al-Shamieh area in the Eastern al-Ghouta Suburb.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-11/25/c_132916523.htm http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/827477.shtml#.UpNBuqA5S61 http://newstrackindia.com/newsdetails/2013/11/25/176--100-rebels-killed-in-bid-to-break-Syrian-troops-siege-.html

Breaking News Network correspondent to Damascus and its countryside has confirmed that army units confronted an offensive launched by hundreds of militants against towns of al-Bahariya, al-Qasemiah and Deir Salman in Eastern Ghouta.

According to our reporter, the rumor of gunmen’s control over these towns is completely false. http://breakingnews.sy/en/article/29649.html

And Babbila contolled Army!

In the southern countryside of Damascus, around 400 armed rebels have reportedly turned themselves in to the Syrian troops, who have stormed the town of Babbila Sunday, according to al- Mayadeen TV. http://english.eastday.com/e/131118/u1a7781161.html http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/world/2013-11/18/c_125716083.htm http://www.china.org.cn/world/Off_the_Wire/2013-11/18/content_30627827.htm http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99/ID/825630/Syrian-troops-besiege-strategic-town-amid-fierce-fights.aspx http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90777/8458579.html http://english.sina.com/world/2013/1117/647017.html http://en.ce.cn/World/Middleeast/201311/18/t20131118_1763603.shtml For earlier thanks! 37.53.150.34 (talk) 08:42, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

OK, but dont post all this here, but in the map or article's talk page.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 18:13, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Aleppo province[edit]

These five villages: Rasm Bakrou, Rasm as Safa, Jalaghim, Kafr Akkar, Rasm Ukrayrish, Sopher99 changed to the rebel-controlled on the basis of his imagination. Since the source on the basis of which he changed them are not mentioned in those villages.http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2013/Nov-25/238839-syria-rebels-press-advance-around-damascus-aleppo-activists.ashx#axzz2lGvTgDRI

This blatant vandalism can appeal to the administrator about it and you support another participant who is struggling with his vandalism.37.53.150.34 (talk) 15:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

As I said previously, I'll gladly testify if someone bring that user to the administrators board, but Im not gonna be the one reporting him, as I've done that before, with no success. I suggest you to contact more users who are fed up with Sopher99 behaviour (POV-pushing, manipulation of reliable sources, use of unreliable sources, breach of WP rules, etc...) in order to get a more powerful position against his blatant vandalism.--HCPUNXKID (talk) 18:19, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

Edit warring reports[edit]

Hi, HCPUNXKID, there are two usual ways of filing a report at AN3. One is to follow the instructions at the top of the page. The other is to use Twinkle. It looks to me like you used Twinkle (not sure) but didn't fill out all the fields in the box. Take a look at other reports, and you'll see what's missing from yours. You don't have page links for the page at issue. You don't have user links for the user being reported. Some of the other missing parts aren't as necessary in a report on a page subject to WP:1RR restrictions, but your initial comment should make clear that this is a 1RR violation on a page subject to general sanctions. (Those other parts would be needed if you were reporting a normal 3RR violation, such as a diff of the 3RR warning, and a diff to a discussion of the dispute.)

Hopefully, that helps. Let me know if you have any specific questions.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:03, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

1RR[edit]

You've broken 1RR with your last revert at Template:Syrian civil war detailed map. Please self-revert or expect a report at WP:AN3. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 23:29, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Sources for Rif Dimashq offensive[edit]

I agree about the blog. I agree in principal about Wikipedia policy on Facebook as source, although in this case we have official posts by SOHR on their official page and not posts made by unknown individuals. And SOHR's credibility and reliability has already been well established. And you have multiple editors who use SOHR Facebook as a source, with only you having a problem with this. However, I am willing to compromise, in the sense I am willing to give up on using SOHR Facebook posts as a source, if we use news reports by SOHR via their official Arabic site (a non-Facebook source). And you can not argue its an unreliable source since we have almost every major news outlet citing SOHR as a source in its reports and they have even written articles exclusively on the credibility and reliability of SOHR, praising it. EkoGraf (talk) 01:22, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

I will repeat, the reliable news sites like Reuters, AFP, AP, Guardian, Telegraph, etc have all written whole articles on the reliability of SOHR praising it, even some calling it an authoritative source. That in itself gives credibility and reliability to SOHR. 90 percent of the information coming out of Syria that the reliable news sites report they report based on reports by SOHR. I, in my personal opinion, also agree that it is unfair that Press TV or RT are excluded as unreliable sources, because I think both sides POV need to be presented. If this was the case of the opposition LCC or the opposition SHRN I would highly doubt their reliability, but SOHR has shown that it follows a middle ground of neutrality. In any case, I already said I'm giving up on the FB issue. EkoGraf (talk) 18:20, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
The other one calls itself SHRN, Syrian Human Rights Network, and it is most definitely unreliable. It even criticizes SOHR because SOHR decided to count government fighters killed in the war as well and not just civilians and rebels, which the Network thinks is counter-revolutionary and not in their best interest. EkoGraf (talk) 16:48, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring report[edit]

See here. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 02:32, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

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Request reason:

A range of reasons and irregularities: *Irregularities: **First, the user who reported me didnt use the common tag (subst:an3-notice). **Second, the administrator who blocked me lasted nearly 11 hours to inform me that I have been blocked. **Third, the administrator who blocked me claimed that I have been blocked for "edit warring". I've just read the article and I dont see that I fit on any of the categories of edit-warring (0RR, 1RR, 3RR). Also, I had not option to defend myself on the issue. Hope now I can... *Reasons: **The administrator who blocked me claimed that I did not seek discussion. Mmmm, curiously, I was the only one not only giving a reliable source of my changes on the template map, but also stating the source and quoting it on the talk section of the template. While I have that reliable source backing my claim, the other user(s) have...their own personal views (as they dont have presented a single source backing their claims). Of course, I will revert that edit ASAP (as the other user lasted 4 days to revert since my block, with no sources and as a minor edit), as I have a source and he dont. I hope I dont get blocked again for that, as far as I remember, WP editing is based on giving sources, am I wrong?. Also, I found difficult discussing with someone whose reaction when you post in his talk page trying to discuss something is to simply delete the message and told you to, quote: "fuck off" (I wonder if the administrator who blocked me found this kind of behaviour "extremely telling", and if this can be denounced and reported). Or do I have to turn the other cheek? **I consider the block extension as disproportionate, as the block policy states that blocks should not be used as a punishment, and I think that in my case I have been punished (note the administrator's sentence, quote: "Given your previous record of edit warring, I have blocked you for 1 week"). It's me, or the extension of the block had been used by this administrator as a punishment only based on my historial?. Also, I had to affirm (although this perhaps will act against my position) that I found this administrator's attitude very unprofessional, both for the lack of advice, discussion and correct & clear argumentation on the block. WP deserves better administrators. HCPUNXKID (talk) 23:01, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

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RE: Central African Republic conflict under the Djotodia administration[edit]

It was defined by religion that's my reason. But youre right, and after reviewing the analysis bit I added, Perhaps just anti-balaka militia?(Lihaas (talk) 22:29, 25 December 2013 (UTC)).

Self-revert(Lihaas (talk) 22:51, 25 December 2013 (UTC)).

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Army of the Holy War - Arab Liberation Army[edit]

Hello,

On the article about the Army of the Holy War, you changed an emblem to a flag in the infobox [8]. Per the same reasonning, should this mean in the article about the Arab Liberation Army we should replace the emblem by the flag of the Arab League ? Pluto2012 (talk) 18:31, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

I dont think so. I removed the emblem because usually emblems are not used in war/battle infoxes, while flags are usually added. The case of the article about the Arab Liberation Army is different, as there the infobox is a war faction infobox, where the adding of logo, flag, shoulder sleeve, etc... is welcomed. But I saw that there is a MB flag, so I will add it to the infobox. Regards,--HCPUNXKID (talk) 22:39, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
I also think we need more info about the use of the Arab League (AL) flag by the ALA (I know the AL organized the ALA, but that doesnt means automatically that the group used the AL flag).--HCPUNXKID (talk) 22:45, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello HCPUNXKID,
I am not familiar with these infoboxes.
I have read a lot of books talking about the ALA but I have never read anything about any flag as well as I have never seen any picture of it.
On the other side, the ALA was established, equiped and paid by the AL and it was fighting in the name of the AL. If they used any, it should have been that one (but without source...)
In any case, if the infobox allows "emblems", the question is solved.
Kind Regards, Pluto2012 (talk) 06:37, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

One source tag[edit]

Hi HCPUNXKID, I've been removing the one source tags you've recently added to some Syrian village articles. For the most part these articles are just stubs consisting of a few non-controversial sentences (population and location) and a one source tag is not appropriate. Please stop adding them to these types of articles unless they contain more information that require more sources. Thank you. --Al Ameer (talk) 02:43, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

If you are contesting whether or not the subjects are notable that's a different issue and there's a different tag for it. Generally speaking, any populated place is significant enough to warrant its own article even if there are a few available English language sources out there. These articles are stubs and could always be expanded. You're taking the "one-source" part too literally. For an article that just mentions a village's location and population (two non-controversial sentences) we don't need another source, although if another could be found that would be great. The purpose of the tag is to make sure we don't have articles with a bunch of information (controversial or otherwise) dependent on one source. As for the dead links, unfortunately that has been a frustrating issue for the past year, but I have the archived links for many of the articles in Aleppo Governorate which I will add promptly. For those where there are no apparent archives, we should add a "deadlink" tag next to the citation.
Also, I am an administrator, but if you'd like to seek another's advice on this issue feel free. --Al Ameer (talk) 20:03, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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Ghuraba al-Sham[edit]

Hello, you added tags to the Ghuraba al-Sham (jihadist group) article back in November. I left a message on the talk page there, but I did not receive a response. Why has the neutrality of the article been disputed? If you could let me know why you think the article is not neutral, it can be resolved.David O. Johnson (talk) 04:25, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Supportkurds[edit]

Listen, I will repeat the three things I told you while making the edits. First, they are reporting on a non-kurdish issue that doesn't involve them. Second, you need consensus and proof if you want to mark a source as unreliable. And third, and most importantly, the texts in the sources are quotes from SOHR reports which are considered reliable. So they are not making any claims on their own behalf or of their own making. They are relaying SOHR reports which have been accepted by the Wikipedia community as reliable. EkoGraf (talk) 16:26, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

What I am saying is that the reports that they are quoting (SOHR reports) are the ones that are reliable. The claims that Supportkurds possible makes of their own volition may or may not be biased, I don't know, I didn't look them up. But back to the main issue, they are quoting the SOHR reports which have been accepted by the Wikipedia community.

And to answer your question why I'm not using direct SOHR reports. SOHR reports in three ways. They have their Arabic version site which is updated regularly, their English version site which is not updated so regularly and their English version site via their official Facebook news page which they update regularly. Since you, despite the objections of many of the Syrian war editors, have declared the SOHR Facebook posts unusable, even though they are official posts and not posts made by unchecked individuals, that leaves us with the SOHR Arabic regularly updated site and the English non-regularly updated site. I managed to find and replace some of the Facebook sources you removed with sources from the Arabic site. However, due to that being an Arabic-speaking site and we are editing on the English Wikipedia it would be best to use English-speaking sources. Also, the Arabic-speaking sites library of past reports isn't sorted in the best reading order (which makes it really hard to find the older sources) while Supportkurds quotes the reports by a chronological timeline/dates. EkoGraf (talk) 16:54, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

If you still have reservations and wish, as a compromise, I can over time try and find more of the Arabic-written reports and as much as I find them I gradually replace the Supportkurds. EkoGraf (talk) 17:02, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

I got your reply just now. The point is, it doesn't matter if its an activist and non-journalistic site. They are quoting/posting SOHR english reports, not making up their own claims. But again, as a compromise, I am asking that only temporarily they remain until over time (because it will take some time due to the large SOHR archive) I gradually replace them with the Arabic reports. Ok? EkoGraf (talk) 00:36, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Outdated sources[edit]

HCPUNXKID you can stop using outdated sources because some people will also be edited using outdated sources and map will turn to trash. And that would not provoke this situation I revert you made changes. I ask you to treat with understanding my words. Hanibal911 (talk) 08:44, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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Barcaxx1980: Is google map enough as a source to add the villages to the syrian map? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Barcaxx1980 (talkcontribs) 17:50, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

The capitals of Syrian provinces[edit]

How to understand this information? Syrian forces control 13 out of 14 Syrian provincial capitals and most of the main roads.The Independent Hanibal911 (talk) 12:56, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

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Your signature[edit]

Per WP:SIGLINK, your signature "must include at least one direct internal link to your user page, user talk page, or contributions page" - as far as I can tell, yours currently does not. Please change it to conform to the guidelines - all you need to do is add a link to one of those three pages somewhere in your signature. Thanks, 6an6sh6 00:36, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

I see you figured it out; sorry I couldn't help, as I was asleep. Cheers, 6an6sh6 20:35, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Al Dumayr[edit]

I think we should change the city Al Dumayr because he is under the control of the army but he was marked as a city in which a truce based on dubious source Foreign Affairs associated with the pro opposition websites Zaman Alwsl and Khamakar press. But not one reliable source has not confirmed this information. Hanibal911 (talk) 19:40, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Al-Shaykh Saad and Adwan[edit]

Another editor EllsworthSK is engaged in vandalism he changed Al-Shaykh Saad and Adwan her based on comment to photo in pro opposition group in Facebook. It is not permissible. Hanibal911 (talk) 13:03, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Syria map[edit]

You seem to be fixated on me and not on the a problem twice the size, barcax's edits.

And guess what, no-one but you (and me originally) has a problem with adding villages using wikimapia and general map.

We can either

A. Remove both Barcaxx's edits and my edits

B. Keep both Barcaxx's edits and my edits, but leave it at that and not add villages with wikimapia, twitter, ect

C. Keep both Barcaxx's and my edits, and continue to allow the construction of villages using wikimapia and twitter

I am quite fine with any one of the three. Sopher99 (talk) 17:24, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I see your going with option C then... if that's really what you want. Sopher99 (talk) 22:33, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Raqqa[edit]

Pro government militias intensified in the city Raqqa. This confirms pro opposition source. Syria Newsdesk Hanibal911 (talk) 19:04, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Syria map[edit]

If Aonline doesn't self-revert his reversion of the towns I removed, I am going to assume this is just a wild goose game against me, and you really don't care whether or not a town or villages is source.

Once again, I am completely fine with you removing those villages I added with wikimapia, granted Barcaxx's villages and towns he added without a proper source are removed as well. Sopher99 (talk) 16:51, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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Inappropriate use of Template:Refimprove[edit]

The information on this template clearly says: When to use

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That was obviously not the case with the ADL article. And as was demonstrated, finding sources for the 3 citation needed tasks was trivial and the editor who added them took less than 20 minutes to do so, finding the first in 32 seconds. You should have either ignored it, fixed the problem, or posted to the talk page and asked if someone else could. Hopefully you will next time you find an article with 92 citations and 3 fact tags. Dougweller (talk) 06:04, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Reference Errors on 9 March[edit]

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1 revert rule[edit]

You broke the 1 revert rule on the Battle of Aleppo (2012–present). second of all I did not use twitter as a source. Lastly there is a discussion on the talkpage. I will report you if you don't revert within 15 minutes. Sopher99 (talk) 16:52, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

You only started the discussion when I reverted your unsustained tag...--HCPUNXKID 16:57, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
I began the discussion before your second revert. I posted on the talkpage at 16:39, you made the second revert at 16:49. Sopher99 (talk) 16:59, 11 March 2014 (UTC)

Battle of Aleppo (2012–present)[edit]

I assume you know the article about the Syrian civil war are under AE sanctions. After all, you were notified in 2013. Yet on the talk page of Battle of Aleppo (2012–present) you have called another user a vandal, please refrain from this as it is a personal attack, which is sanctionable. Darkness Shines (talk) 23:25, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Jdeydeh[edit]

Per two new pro-opposition maps [9] and [10], based on opposition sources Jdeydeh is government-held. Based on this and the fact that there has been no fighting reported in that Christian district for a year and a half now this warrants a change to red I think. EkoGraf (talk) 09:00, 25 March 2014 (UTC)

P.S. The Army today captured the Al-Ma'amel area between Aziza and Al-Shekh Sa'eed [11][12]. And I believe only the northern part of Hanano should be contested, not the whole district. EkoGraf (talk) 18:14, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
New development, Army has regained control of areas in Aziza [13] (southern edge of the map). EkoGraf (talk) 12:02, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Template Syrian civil war detailed map[edit]

I need your advice. What can be done that would put an end to the vandalism the editor Jafar Saeed which edits the map without specifying sources. His actions can be classified as vandalism because his actions are harmful.herherher I also think that his actions may violate the 1RR rule. Hanibal911 (talk) 19:04, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

April 2014[edit]

Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Svoboda (political party). Your edits have been reverted or removed.

Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. Please stop edit warring and adhere to WP:3RR Львівське (говорити) 14:29, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

If you feel better by posting this in my talk page...OK, but dont try to act like "Oh, I have good faith and I tried to warn him", that's not credible due to you attitude. Im not the one who's removing content based on reliable sources, but you. And by the way, Im not gonna act like you by removing this message, I've got nothing to hide, not as others...--HCPUNXKID 18:40, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Military objects[edit]

How do you think is it worth to add on the map this military objects "Panorama" Army Base and Police Academy because according to this source the territory on which they are located is under the control of the army. Hanibal911 (talk) 08:33, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Deir ez zor map[edit]

Yes,al thayeem is gov controlled,but al shulah is rebel controlled.24.0.210.152 (talk) 14:36, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

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Battle of Aleppo map[edit]

A user edited Baloura to contested (from government-held) and Sheikh Lufti to rebel-held (from contested) while none of the provided sources indicated Baloura has become contested and we have no source saying rebels took full control of Sheikh Lufti. The user made an assumption that because the rebels attacked Aziza than they must have captured Sheikh Lufti, which is considered Original Research by Wikipedia and is not allowed. So I would kindly urge you to revert the southeastern front situation to back as it was (Baloura red/government held and Sheikh Lufti contested). Also, same goes for Al-Waffa, we have confirmation of fighting around the intelligence building and palace of justice (north of Waffa), but not in Waffa itself. The user used youtube videos as a basis to make Waffa contested. Youtube video can not be used per Wikipedia policy and are forbiden. So that should also go back to red. The area northwest of Waffa should remain contested. Thank you. EkoGraf (talk) 15:17, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

P.S. I just noticed that Hanano was also marked as contested, despite that no more fighting has been reported there since the rebel attack on the barracks was repelled a few days ago per an opposition source [14]. So that also should go back to red. So in essence, that user's whole edit should be reverted back to Sopher's version. EkoGraf (talk) 15:24, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

Personal attacks[edit]

Stop icon This is your only warning; if you make personal attacks on other people again, as you did at Donetsk People's Republic, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. [15] Refrain from personal attacks such as accusations of "POV-pushing, misinterpretation, lies and vandalism" or YOU will be reported. This is your only warning in light of your history of this disruptive behavior. Львівське (говорити) 20:11, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Please use the article talk page[edit]

Do you think you could discuss your views on the article talk page? You may believe that the leaflets were a hoax. I do not see how you can possibly be right. They really did exist and really were distributed.

I do not know for certain who produced and distributed the leaflets. My guess is that they were produced on a standard office printer/photocopier. Most office workers in the city had the capability. The arguments in the Guardian article are mildly interesting, but not conclusive. Remember, "Donetsk People's Republic" consists of a bunch of people who have normal jobs aided by "green men" and volunteers from across the border. The writer for the Guardian seems to think that they would have professional printers like a government department in England - that is not a realistic attitude.

The leaflets may have been produced by people from the "Donetsk People's Republic". They did not necessarily have authorisation - it is not clear whether all the building seizures are centrally planned either - some are.

The leaflets may have been produced as "black propaganda" by the Government, or somebody else. The English were very good at black propaganda during World War II.

Either way, the leaflets were real. You may have your beliefs about them, but Wikipedia has to be based on reliable sources and have a neutral point of view.--Toddy1 (talk) 05:18, 21 April 2014 (UTC)

Deir ez-Zor Governorate[edit]

I think we should remove these towns (Al-Siyal, Al-Susat and Marashdah) in the province of Deir ez-Zor near the town of Abu Kamal.her Because they were added on basis of data from the pro opposition source.Syria Deeply Hanibal911 (talk) 20:37, 23 April 2014 (UTC)