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Moves of Mounted Brigades[edit]

G'day, the "technical" moves you requested do not conform with WP:MILMOS#UNITNAMES, because they should either be at their last name, or remain disambiguated because there are other XXth Mounted Brigades. Please have a read. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 10:51, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

G'day, Peacemaker67. I note WP:MILMOS#UNITNAMES; I have been tripped up by In cases where a unit's name can reasonably be expected to be used by multiple armed forces in that I had no knowledge of 3rd Mounted Brigade (Canada) - Canadian armed forces and the Boer War not being areas of particular interest to me - so did not think my proposed moves was in any way controversial. Ho, hum. We live and learn.
Moving on, I note that you have been moving some of the Mounted Brigade articles to Cyclist Brigades, e.g. 20th Mounted Brigade to 9th Cyclist Brigade. I fully understand this per WP:MILMOS#UNITNAMES but the problem I see is that two separate formations were designated as 9th Cyclist Brigade
2/1st Lowland Mounted Brigade -> 20th Mounted Brigade -> 13th Cyclist Brigade -> 9th Cyclist Brigade
2/1st Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire Mounted Brigade -> 9th Mounted Brigade -> 9th Cyclist Brigade -> 5th Cyclist Brigade
[This problem applies to all the Cyclist Brigades as there was considerable reorganization of the 2nd Line Yeomanry Regiments in November 1916. 1st to 8th Cyclist Brigades were broken up and their regiments amalgamated in pairs in new 1st to 4th Cyclist Brigades; the 9th to 14th Cyclist Brigades were then renumbered as 5th to 10th Cyclist Brigades. To add to the confusion, new 11th, 12th and 13th Cyclist Brigades were formed in September 1917.]
Question is, how do we handle this situation? Both formations existed simultaneously (though obviously bearing the 9th Cyclist Brigade title at different times) so I think we need two separate articles. I was going to write a List of British Army Cyclist Brigades in World War I type article to outline this series of renumberings and reorganization, with redirects from, for example, 5th Cyclist Brigade.
I have a related problem with 1st Mounted Division being the name applied to three different formations. The second incarnation is outlined in the 3rd Mounted Division article, but I would like to create a redirect for this. Writing something like the new 1st Mounted Division (3rd Mounted Division renumbered) is a little clumsy. A redirect [[3rd Mounted Division#1st Mounted Division]] would be better but what would be a good title for the redirect page? new 1st Mounted Division, 1st Mounted Division (second formation), or something else? Any advise would be most gratefully received. Hamish59 (talk) 13:38, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
The best solution I can think of is to disambiguate by year span. eg 9th Cyclist Brigade (1916–1918), 5th Cyclist Brigade (1916–1918). Any issues likely to arise with that? Regards, Peacemaker67 (crack... thump) 00:05, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
One thing that springs to mind is that some of the incarnations only had a short span. For example, the original 5th Cyclist Brigade (of 2nd Cyclist Division) existed from July to November 1916. Hamish59 (talk) 10:02, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
I wonder if 5th Cyclist Brigade (July–November 1916) would work? Whatever we call them, we will need a dab page. Hamish59 (talk) 10:34, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

52nd Indian Infantry Brigade[edit]

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Created 52nd Indian Infantry Brigade by starting with a copy of 51st Indian Infantry Brigade, so spot on. Hamish59 (talk) 16:04, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Caporetto[edit]

Hi. Why did you revert my edit? Is overwhelming used to describe any other battles?STFX1046190 (talk) 09:32, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

Do you mean Caporetto or Battle of Caporetto? If the latter, then I do not know what you mean - you have never edited it. Hamish59 (talk) 17:32, 1 June 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXI, June 2015[edit]

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122nd Rajputana Infantry (God's Own)[edit]

There's an existing article for 122nd Rajputana Infantry I think there might be some mileage in using some of the bare elements (ie outline material rather than the wall of verbiage) of 122nd Rajputana Infantry (God's Own) but I agree that the article as titled needs removing. Your thoughts? GraemeLeggett (talk) 18:12, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Graeme, that sounds like a good plan, 122nd Rajputana Infantry could benefit for some expansion, but without the wall of text. Are you in a position to do this? I am deep into a series of articles on Category:Brigades of India in World War I at the moment (hence tripping over the article). Hamish59 (talk) 18:20, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
I'll see what I can pick out. GraemeLeggett (talk) 20:48, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
Cheers, mate. Hamish59 (talk) 20:52, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXII, July 2015[edit]

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Festubert[edit]

Well well, another stray returns to the fold, I thought I'd found them all. ;O)Keith-264 (talk) 13:28, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

No worries. Hamish59 (talk) 14:39, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Talk page redirects[edit]

Why did you create this talk page redirect, because this is not usually done (as it can complicate future page moves). -- PBS (talk) 20:57, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

@PBS: Err. Links to where... Hamish59 (talk) 21:00, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Strange the Ping did not work. Must have had the wrong thing in the cut and past buffer second time a charm: This edit. -- PBS (talk) 17:38, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
@PBS: Understand now. I do not think about future page moves: obviously not an issue in this instance, but could be in the wider case. I thought that moving a page would move the talk page too, unless you specifically choose not to. Or have I got this wrong? Hamish59 (talk) 10:45, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────It depends if a page moves twice then the talk page will have a history and it has to be manually deleted, it has to be deleted manually and then the talk page and its archives have to be moved across in a separate move to that of the article. Why did you create the redirect? -- PBS (talk) 12:51, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

No problem, I will just replace it with a rdr. Hamish59 (talk) 14:31, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Now the page talk page will defiantly have to be removed if the page is moved to that article name. What is the purpose of placing a template on a redirect talk page with no other content on the talk page? -- PBS (talk) 18:41, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Can you point me at a policy on this? Hamish59 (talk) 11:15, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
I have stated that you can not do it, I have asked why you did it. Given it can cause problems for other editors, what are the advantages of such a redirect or adding such a template? -- PBS (talk) 21:06, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I have stated that you can not do it – seriously?
You tell me that I have done something wrong, I have tried to fix it, but apparently I have made it worse. I have asked for a policy so I can understand the issue, and try to fix it. I did not know that redirect pages were not supposed to have talk pages – again, a policy would be very useful. Hamish59 (talk) 14:52, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXIII, August 2015[edit]

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Deletion review of Jeffrey Allen Sinclair[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Jeffrey Allen Sinclair. Because you participated in the deletion discussion or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. GregJackP Boomer! 00:18, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Scope of the List of British generals[edit]

I would be grateful for your views as to the scope of the List_of_British_generals at Talk:List_of_British_generals#Scope.3F. Thanks 00:21, 23 August 2015 (UTC)