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Your GA nomination of The Crescent, Taunton[edit]

The article The Crescent, Taunton you nominated as a good article has passed Symbol support vote.svg; see Talk:The Crescent, Taunton for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Noswall59 -- Noswall59 (talk) 11:41, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

Next project?[edit]

Wisden Leading Cricketer in the World looks like a good candidate for a scrub up and nom? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:13, 6 May 2015 (UTC)


It's nowhere near ready! If you want to quick fail it or anything, that's fine by me. I recognise the nominator - he has a habit of doing this, if I remember correctly. Sarastro1 (talk) 12:44, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

We need a clear philosophy of what is and isn't OK for DYK hooks[edit]

I'm bringing this up privately (so to speak) so as not to add to The Rambling Man's current tantrum. I more-than-generally agree with your judgments at DYK (where good judgment is sometimes hard to come by -- especially timely good judgment) but I would really like you to think about your pull here [1], prompted by [2]. Must we always be at the mercy of the skittish schoolmarms? Must anything fun and intriguing, which just maybe teaches the reader something new and interesting (i.e. re Roanoke) alongside the main hook fact, be smothered in its crib because one IP don't get it, after which a grump with his nose in the air chimes in he DONTLIKEIT? EEng (talk) 23:59, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

@EEng: In my opinion that hook was just trying to do too much. As the IP correctly pointed out, saying that this is "no danger" of something "mysteriously" disappearing is more or less a direct contradiction, while drawing a comparison between the Percina roanoka and the Roanoke Colony was extremely tenuous. The problem with ERRORS is that all decisions become somewhat rushed and often lacking in general consensus, but I try my best: they have been a number of times that complaints have been dismissed too, it isn't just a case of bowing to the moaners! Harrias talk 07:12, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
@EEng: please stop referring to me in derogatory terms across the encyclopedia. I don't do it to you. And you wonder why you drove me away. The Rambling Man (talk) 07:58, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Harrias, it's precisely because you don't bow to all the moaners that I approached you. I'd like to discuss with you a framework for thinking about this, after which we can approach the broader field of DYK participants. It occurs to me there are really two things to talk about: (a) to what extent may hooks depart from utterly straightforward "just the facts, ma'am" style?; (b) what should be the criteria for a pull? I'd like to start with (b). Are you game to talk this through a bit? EEng (talk) 20:27, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
@EEng: I'm always happy to talk anything through, though I'm not around so much at the moment as I would like. That said, I check up on WP a few times a day, even if I don't edit, so feel free to post; I will definitely read and think about it, even if I don't reply straight away. Harrias talk 20:32, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
OK, good, but if you're pardon me I've changed my mind and would like to go back to (a). Let's start with this food for thought: what do you think of ALT3 of this nom? EEng (talk) 22:43, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
@EEng:Personally I think that is fine. It is slightly misleading, but intriguing. It remains completely factual, retains the correct capitalisation, and uses professional language. There is nothing wrong with quirky hooks, but I think hooks are perhaps straying too far towards an April Fools style joke or pun. For example (and I was actually the admin that promoted this from prep to queue) the hook currently on the main page: ...that Thao Ma's 1966 Laotian coup bombed? In my opinion on the Main page of Wikipedia, we should be using a professional level of English, and "bombed" in this usage, is an informal or slang term. Therefore, while I did promote it, now that I'm considering where the line should be, I would actually rule against that hook. I'm going to stop pinging you after this post, and just assume you're watching my talk page, because the pings annoy me! Harrias talk 17:07, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Sorry, been traveling, but let's continue when I'm settled. EEng (talk) 14:00, 21 May 2015 (UTC)
Picking up in the discussion at TDYK... Exactly because I think you and I are at somewhat different points on the spectrum of what we feel is acceptable, I thought we two might be able to clear a lot of the underbrush before opening a discussion with the wider group. That's what I'd still like to do with you once I catch my breath. EEng (talk) 16:47, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
Sounds sensible; buzz me back whenever! Harrias talk 16:52, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Somerset County Cricket Club in 1882[edit]

The article Somerset County Cricket Club in 1882 you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold Symbol wait.svg. The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Somerset County Cricket Club in 1882 for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Tim riley -- Tim riley (talk) 11:21, 24 May 2015 (UTC)