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Eligible for CSD:G13 sign-up[edit]

Hi Hasteur. I've been searching for where to sign up for your bot delivering the "The following pages have become eligible for CSD:G13" message, but couldn't find it. Would you point me in the right direction? Thanks, -- Sam Sailor Talk! 07:07, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

@Sam Sailor: User:HasteurBot/G13 OptIn Notifications. Hasteur (talk) 18:23, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you. -- Sam Sailor Talk! 21:27, 19 September 2015 (UTC)


why did you kick me out of being a drn volunteer โ€” Preceding unsigned comment added by Nms642 (talk โ€ข contribs) 16:19, 9 October 2015

Forte Tenors RfC[edit]

You are invited to comment if you so desire. Cheers! โ€”ATinySliver/ATalkPage ๐Ÿ–– 01:48, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

They will never understand[edit]

Sometimes they just need to trust other people, but they will never understand. Fiddle Faddle 15:01, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

@Timtrent: RE G13 inquiries? Hasteur (talk) 16:26, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
That's the ones. Fiddle Faddle 16:27, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
@Timtrent: would you mind slapping JMHamo around for being a blazing idiot? Seriously, how many times do I have to repeat and explain with new words the same fucking concepts? Hasteur (talk) 15:01, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
If there were any point in doing so I would. I suggest you trout them. This is not hard to understand, unless one chooses to find it hard to understand. Fiddle Faddle 15:03, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Clerk trouts[edit]

Please do not trout the arbitration clerks, even if one of them were to overlook your request to omit notifications. I spent a year in that role, and can attest that the clerks' job is fishy enough as it is. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 16:54, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Then the clerks need to properly screen the list before they send the mass message. Hasteur (talk) 20:07, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Favor: Script review[edit]

Hi Hasteur. I'm new to working with pywikibot. Could I trouble you to review a script written by someone else to make sure nothing has changed with pywikibot in the last year that would break it? I would really appreciate it. โ€”โ€‰JJMC89โ€‰(TยทC) 05:23, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

@JJMC89: I'm having a hard time following the bot. Is could you put more comments into the script to help people who aren't 100% familiar with the code explain what it is this does? Also I was poking around en:wikinews:Portal:New York City/Wikipedia and couldn't get any pages to populate. I would seriously consider reviewing all the invocations of the User:Wikinews Importer Bot/config template (and chase down their Wikinews categories) prior to restarting this bot as it took digging through wikinews to find a published article to chase down the category, to chase down the template invocation in Portal:Sports and games/Sports news/Wikinews to see a positive case. Hasteur (talk) 13:30, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Apologies that the script is confusing; I didn't write it. I'll see what I can do with respect to commenting the code. If you compare the dev branch to the master, you can see the only change I made with the exception of adding the comment block at the top. What is the "established procedure" that the script isn't up to date with? n:Portal:New York City/Wikipedia requires articles in n:Category:New York City, which is empty (and deleted). When the bot was last run, this was the list of maintained pages. This pair works: Portal:New York/In the news/Wikinews โ† n:Portal:New York/Wikipedia. Thanks! โ€”โ€‰JJMC89โ€‰(TยทC) 20:32, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

DRN Clerk Bot[edit]

It seems to be stuck for the past four days. Robert McClenon (talk) 00:28, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

  • Case was missing the required component. I think this is the 4th time this specific vecor has occured. Hasteur (talk) 02:02, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
  • @Robert McClenon: I've adjusted the code so that if the case is missing the {{drn filing editor}} template [1], we call out the User example and make clear the Unknown state of the start of the request [2]. Any objections? Hasteur (talk) 02:24, 8 April 2016 (UTC)


Please may I draw your attention to my question at Wikipedia:Bot_requests#TED_links? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:02, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

  • You have multiple times, however I'm far too busy with my currently committed to tasks to address it... Hasteur (talk) 12:25, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

DRN help needed and volunteer roll call[edit]

You are receiving this message because you have listed yourself on the list of volunteers at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Volunteering#List of the DRN volunteers.

First, assistance is needed at DRN. We have recently closed a number of cases without any services being provided for lack of a volunteer willing to take the case. There are at least three cases awaiting a volunteer at this moment. Please consider taking one.

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I've added you to the roll call list; as our bot operator you're exempt automatically. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 17:17, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
@TransporterMan: I still stand by the "I will help get discussions that have gone on for a bit too long" to being resolved if need be. Hasteur (talk) 18:13, 12 April 2016 (UTC)

Can you not blindly revert me[edit]

[3] Look at the goddamn diff before you revert someone. Also, I never claimed anything like what you said, quit with the lie. Also, reverting someone twice does not make me an edit warrior. --QEDK (T โ˜• C) 15:32, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

@QEDK: I invite you to self revert right now as you are edit warring. If I do not hear back in 1 hour I WILL report you to AN:EW. Hasteur (talk) 15:33, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Holy shit, you're clearly blind. --QEDK (T โ˜• C) 15:34, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Question regarding Commons:Deletion requests/File:Richardson mothership.jpg[edit]

Hi, thanks for your message on Commons. Yes, if you were able to visit the site and to photograph the building yourself there shouldn't be any problem, as you would then be the owner of the copyright in your own image. Although the architect will have copyright in the design of the building itself, the US has freedom of panorama which means that you are allowed to photograph the building without worrying about anybody else's copyright. It would be a useful thing to do, as there don't seem to be many photographs of it online. I found another one here (image towards the bottom of the page) but it's not free to use. If you'd like me to check the licensing and tagging of the photograph you eventually take, do feel free to leave me a note. --MichaelMaggs (talk) 12:59, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Collect essay; second bite at the cherry[edit]

You participated in an MfD discussion about an essay by Collect that was in mainspace. The result was userfy and it was moved to user space accordingly. The essay has been moved back to mainspace. There is a discussion as to whether it should be renamed and moved. The discussion is here. Writegeist (talk) 00:48, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

API change will break your bot[edit]

Hey Hasteur,

I noticed that HasteurBot has been using http:// to access the API, rather than https:// This is going to break soon, because of upcoming changes to the API. You can find more information in this e-mail message. I'm encouraging people who need help updating their code to ask at w:en:Wikipedia:Bot owners' noticeboard or on the mailing list. Good luck, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:23, 19 May 2016 (UTC)

Deletion review for Draft:Push and Shove (song)[edit]

User:Ricky81682 has asked for a deletion review of Draft:Push and Shove (song). Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. โ€”Cryptic 21:59, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

G13 Eligibility Notice[edit]

The following pages will become eligible for CSD:G13 shortly.

Thanks, HasteurBot (talk) 17:11, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

IPBE RfC v2[edit]

As you commented on WP:IBE RfC Grant exemptions to users in good standing on request, you may wish to also comment on my alternative proposal, WP:IBE RfC Automatically grant IPBE to users by proof of work alone . Sai ยฟ?โœ 11:38, 25 May 2016 (UTC)


diff. We can't have people challenging the support !votes ... --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:42, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

For what it is worth, I am also interested who is behind Special:Contributions/ ('reference') and Special:Contributions/ (and a couple more IPs performing these actions). --Dirk Beetstra T C 12:56, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

@Beetstra: If they move my challanges, I'm going to undo citing WP:TPO and warn them directly that if they do it again I'm going directly to AN. My bullshit tollerance threshold is already gone today. Hasteur (talk) 13:20, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
If yours stay, I am going to move mine back next week as well (oh the joy, my weekend starts now). Maybe I will even do it now.
The noindexer is active, but now discussing (yes, I really think it is Rotlink, and if Rotlink is not the owner, it may not be Rotlink but the owner). --Dirk Beetstra T C 13:25, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
@Beetstra: What I would do is copy your objections to suporters back to their original locations and collapse the portion that CFCF has put below. You get the "Revert" and at the same time not commit a WP:TPO violation yourself. I am a hairs breadth from filing a RFPP Semi (to the end of the RFC on the main and talk pages for this since the IP hopper can't stay put (and I would note that IP hopping was a symptom of the RotlinkBot/ botswarm). Hasteur (talk) 13:29, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
I am pretty sure it is him. Gaming the system. --Dirk Beetstra T C 13:34, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Please be advised that this does not violate WP:TPO โ€” the vote section is simply intended for votes โ€” as explained in the background section. The Oppose-section should similarly be parsed out to a new discussion section, but I will not do this because Beetstra chose to vote twice in different comments. It isn't about not allowing challenging comments, but about keeping discussion at one place so that we don't scare away new editors. Carl Fredik ๐Ÿ’Œ ๐Ÿ“ง 18:41, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Please show exactly what part of TPO it violates, because you're stragith out of line. Hope you like ANI drama because you did it again. I've marked it as Vandalism and will now proceed to ANI. Hasteur (talk) 18:48, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
There is an explicit instruction on how to comment, and I merely proceeded as per WP:TPO: Off-topic posts โ€” moving them to a section where they were better suited. There is nothing to be gained in the RfC by simultaneously discussing things in 3-4 different places! Carl Fredik ๐Ÿ’Œ ๐Ÿ“ง 18:52, 26 May 2016 (UTC)


You've got mail. โ€” TransporterMan (TALK) 21:28, 26 May 2016 (UTC)

Amendment request on arbitration decision against Rodhullandemu[edit]

You are involved in a recently-filed request for clarification or amendment from the Arbitration Committee. Please review the request at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment#Amendment request: Rodhullandemu and, if you wish to do so, enter your statement and any other material you wish to submit to the Arbitration Committee. Additionally, the Wikipedia:Arbitration guide may be of use.

Thanks, --George Ho (talk) 05:50, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

In response to the HasteurBot on Draft:Granatanine concern. I think there exist encyclopedic notability[edit]

I created the 2 draft-pages, on Granatane (User:RIT RAJARSHI/Granatane) and Granatanine (Draft:Granatanine). ( Originally I attempted to create the pages because I did not knew how-to request an article) .

Though the created-draft-pages failed at review (because I could provide so-little informations). But still, I think, there is encyclopedic notability of these 2 topics. Because... the terms, Granatane and Granatanine, are often-used in the field of Alkaloids (Some alkaloids, allied to tropane, such as pseudopelletierine contains them in backbone), natural-products organic-chemistry, drug-action, Ligand-receptor interaction ( such as Sigma-2_receptor#Ligands ) etc.

But when I started search web on the main, backbone compound (and nomenclatural origin) compounds 9-azabicyclo[3.3.1]nonane [1] (Granatanine[2]) , and 9-methyl-9-azabicyclo[3.3.1]nonan-3-amine [3] (Granatane[4]), I could not found useful informations throughout web ( so I tried to request the article and attempted to create the drafts).

I'm frightened to re-submit the article because I have very little information. But these topics should be further reviewed , so-that experts who know more about these 2 topics, could contribute, and the future will be benefited.


RIT RAJARSHI (talk) 14:16, 17 June 2016 (UTC)


G13 question[edit]

Could I draw your attention to Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Help_with_clearing_out_G13_nominations?

In addition to this editor, there are some other editors who "help" out by nominating G13s, and often do it wrong. If you are comfortable that the bot is keeping up with the backlog, I'd like to put together a nicely worded note for these editors to suggest that they should not nominate G13s, as that will be taken care of.

I have noticed some nominations by your bot, but most have been by human editors. One possibility is that the bot is not nominating many because of the throttling, and if human editors stopped, the bot would do them all. However, it occurred to me that if the creation of G13 eligible is exceeding the throttle limit, then maybe humans are nominating because they see the backlog growing. Is it proper for me to look at Category:G13 eligible AfC submissions and conclude that the backlog is quite reasonable, and therefore we should discourage human editors from nominating at all?--S Philbrick(Talk) 15:42, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

The Challenge Series[edit]

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ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

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Hello, Hasteur. You have new messages at Draft:Leader-1.
Message added 03:04, 4 December 2016 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Please see my comments on the draft for Leader-1. I am happy to help, if I can. CaroleHenson (talk) 03:04, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

CaroleHenson That was an incredibly less than brilliant action... How are editors supposed to get content that has been in mainspace for several years (and the "See main article XXX"). I strongly suggest you UNDO that action immediately and let the Merge discussion take place. Hasteur (talk) 23:19, 4 December 2016 (UTC)

Thought I'd post a thought here rather than Talk:Pantheon-Assas University[edit]

I just thought I'd leave a small explanatory note of my personal position regarding Launebee's use of "libel". I am under the strong impression that Launebee's native tongue is French and not English. As somebody who speaks more than one language myself I'm aware that certain words when translated from one language to another also undergo some change in meaning (or perception of meaning). A good example of a language dispute I came across was involving the French use of the word competent. The tl;dr version of it is that competent in French has a wider meaning than in English. Case in point, the Ministere Public has "competence" in dealing with terrorism. In this case what was meant was "is responsible for" rather than "has the skills to deal with". I don't speak French so can't comment on how the word for "libel" is perceived by the French. That said, you're pointing Launebee in the right direction regarding stopping their use of the word "libel". I assume any further incursion will result in you pursuing an NLT block. I may have held a mis-impression regarding your initial warning about "libel" and admit that I thought you were coming down stronger than necessary. I am, however, noting that Launebee does have a tendency to use inflammatory language in disputes and perhaps your stern warning will discourage them from pursuing it further. Thanks for your comments. Long explanatory note I'm afraid. Cheers, Mr rnddude (talk) 13:39, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

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A comment[edit]

Hi. Sorry for replying here but otherwise the main discussion will become unreadable. My questions:

  • Was it a mistake to have a bot to remove Persondata from 2 millions pages? Persondata was not providing any info and was not visible. So the Persondata code in the wikicode was just doing nothing. From the perspective, removing it was useless.
  • Is is a mistake that bots and editors remove duplicated parameters from templates? Template work fine even with these parameters.
  • Should a bot task of adding tracking categories to pages be ever accepted?

-- Magioladitis (talk) 13:57, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment related to BAG. It is very close to my opinion. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:04, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

You may also want to check User_talk:Ladsgroup#Latest_Dexbot_changes... where a group of editors decided to ask a bot owner to only change the wikicode appearance. -- Magioladitis (talk) @Magioladitis:

  • If I recall correctly Persondata was a microcode format that extracted vital details about a Biographical subject to something that could easily be read by a machine. Based on that assumption the Deprecation of persondata (and it's template removal) is perfetly justified because it was explicitly endorsed as a change by the community.
  • There's a fine line between a bot removing a duplicate parameter from a temple at the request (WP:BOTREQ) of the community (or some subset thereof that uses the template) and the bot(operator) deciding of it's own volition to rip out the parameter based on some opaque decision process.
  • Yes, adding tracking categories is a accepted practice (to help editors corral pages of interest).
  • I see the Ladsgroup discussion and I am saddened at how a editor that provided a useful improvement to the system was hounded off wikipedia by one editor screaming about rigid adherance to the rules. There are two ways this could have been resolved. First was to have Doc James make a pro-forma request at BOTREQ asking for this functionality, followed by Ladsgroup going to BAG seeking approval for these changes. The second would be to have the same "triggered" mentality, but similar to reFill return the user to the edit preview so that the triggering editor is the one that is on the hook for the cosmetic changes and making it firmly clear who triggered the change. Hasteur (talk) 14:56, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the replies. So, for a direct question: Changes that do no affect the visual outcome can be acceptable if the community, by consensus via some transparent process decide it. Right? -- Magioladitis (talk) 15:00, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Just letting you know that Anomie said that your comment is inaccurate. -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:28, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

User:DRN clerk bot[edit]

Would you support a request for making the interval shorter from 30 minutes? Ideally 5 minutes, but Perhaps 10 or 15 minutes? The reason why I ask is that the workload doesn't appear to be that large for each "run" that the bot goes through. Thanks again for making the bot. --JustBerry (talk) 18:14, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

@JustBerry: Is there a reason why you feel need such a short run time? The Template is only supposed to be a digest at a single time. If a discussion is proceeding rapidly we'd go from a maximum of 2 updates per hour to 12 updates in one hour (in your "ideal" case). As this is enumerated in Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/DRN_clerk_bot as the update time, I'm exceedingly hessitant to change it especially in light of other actions hapening around the wiki with respect to bots. I suggest you seek consensus for this change among the users of this template at WT:DRN. FYI: Senior DRN volunteers (TransporterManโ€”Robert McClenon). Hasteur (talk) 18:33, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
There's no discussion of you changing it. This is a discussion of would you support a request to change it. After asking what you thought--the bot creator--I was going to reach out to Transporter and Robert on the DRN talk page anyway. --JustBerry (talk) 18:37, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
Ok, in that case, it's as simple as changing the "scheduled run" of the bot script, practically trivial to do. If we were so inclined we could run it once every minute, at absurdist speed. Hasteur (talk) 18:39, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
@Hasteur: I realize. There are times when multiple volunteers and editors have edited a case within 30 minutes. That's why I thought I might suggest 10-15 minutes. Is that unreasonable? Or, do you simply think reducing the interval at all is still unneeded? --JustBerry (talk) 18:41, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
@Hasteur: It's not a critical change per say. It's a matter of consensus/project preference (as long as the frequency is reasonable). --JustBerry (talk) 18:43, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
I'll reply once more, but I personally think updating the Case scorecard more frequently than 30 minutes is excessive. If someone wants updates more fresh than 30 minutes, then they should have the page on their watchlist. At the and of the day, the bot is there to service the needs of the community. Hasteur (talk) 18:52, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
User:JustBerry, User:Hasteur - I don't see it as essential to keep the summary consistent with the activity even every 30 minutes. I personally think that once an hour is good enough. Maybe JustBerry can explain why they want to speed up the bot. Robert McClenon (talk) 19:13, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
@Robert McClenon: Looks like the discussion is heading unfavorable towards shortening the interval. Thanks for considering. --JustBerry (talk) 19:15, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
This is one of these cases where I feel that I must have missed something. When a reasonable editor proposes an idea that seems just silly, I wonder whether I have missed something. What was the reason for asking to speed up the bot, or was it just a random idea? Robert McClenon (talk) 19:23, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
@Robert McClenon: Was the idea that unreasonable? I mentioned the reasoning above. 30 minutes is fine, 15 minutes might keep things more current, e.g. when a volunteer fixes a case title because the bot had trouble parsing a link in the section title, etc. However, there's clearly no dire need for it. --JustBerry (talk) 19:27, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
FYI, I am willing to drop this conversation all together if others no longer wish to pursue this change. Thanks again. --JustBerry (talk) 19:35, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

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There's really no problem as much as a perceived convenience for volunteers and involved parties to see a more frequently-updated case status. --JustBerry (talk) 19:40, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
The truth is that I've never used the status form much. I just scan through the cases and see if something needs attention. Once a volunteer takes one, I don't pay much attention to it at all. I have no opposition to making it run more often, but neither do I personally feel a need for it to do so. I do see an issue with it running too often, just for strain on the system concern and possible issues with crashes (neither of which may be a genuine concern, since I'm not strong in systems or coding). So I guess I land on the side of being vaguely concerned to neutral. Best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 18:15, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

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B4 clarification[edit]


A clarification to WP:UP/RFC2016 ยง B4 has been proposed. You participated in that discussion; your input is welcome at Wikipedia:User pages/RfC for stale drafts policy restructuring/B4 clarification. Thanks, โ€” Godsy (TALKCONT) 15:47, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

ArbCom question[edit]

The last sentence at your ArbComm post is unclear to me. What type of ban? No need to discuss, just suggesting you clarify your post. Legacypac (talk) 03:56, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

@Legacypac: See my response to Softlavender where I clarify that I mean a non-indefinite site ban and how I'm being very precise with what I'm asking for. Hasteur (talk) 13:08, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
I'll be offline a lot more for a few weeks. Thanks for your help on several fronts. . Legacypac (talk) 18:38, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Abandoned Mad7744 Draftspace cleanup[edit]

An admin speedied the articles you group MfD'd. Good job. Legacypac (talk) 06:05, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

@Legacypac: I'll start working the 2015 batches later today (for me) Hasteur (talk) 13:08, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
see the thread in AN. Don't think you need to. Just find someone with the right tools. I'm traveling so my editings gonna drop off for a bit. Legacypac (talk) 18:41, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

WCW Ding Dongs[edit]

Your comment previously was that most of the references were to, and that they were in "this matchup". Respectfully I would respond with two points:

1) My proposed article has no less than thirty-four different references, including one (albeit brief) by The New York Times. I've looked at other enhancement talent who have wikipedia pages and Jim Powers(24 references), Dusty Wolfe(6 references), George South(7), Mike Sharpe(4), Mario Mancini(6 references), and Sal Bellomo(5 references) all have far less. I looked up a random favorite Miami Dolphins football player from my childhood, Mark Higgs. He has just seven references. In the draft that I am proposing, these also include seven book references. I'm not certain how many more references that I need?

2) Regarding Historyofthewwe, I've limited the usage in the article. It's only there to provide some fleshing out of their key match history. That said, I'm not certain why would be considered a "fan site" whereas similar match aggregate sites like or would not be. The site's creator has published the results in print - Graham Cawthon (2014). The History of Professional Wrestling: World Championship Wrestling 1989-1994 (Volume 4). CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform. ISBN 978-1499656343. . I've never seen the veracity of the site or of his books challenged. I can use the other two and will if necessary - I'm just not certain if there would be a similar challenge to either.

So my question is simply, what do I need to do to get this finished? Since I submitted in early June I've shortened the article, added two more book references, and one more online reference. Any help would be appreciated! Marino73 (talk) 23:22, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

@Marino73: In summary your both argument are covered under Wikipedia:Other stuff exists and is a demonstration of the weakness of your argument. Don't do that. I strongly suggest you go talk to WP:TEAHOUSE to get the requisite training and help. Hasteur (talk) 12:02, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
Furthermore the fact that it is written down does not help in this case as it's clearly labeled (CreateSpace Independent Publishing Program) as Self Publishing content (see WP:RSSELF) which gets thrown out again. I say again, barring established news organizations (such as ESPN, CNN, ...) bringing the creator on as a source, there's no way to determine how reliable the person is and therefore doesn't move above a Fan site. Hasteur (talk) 12:07, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Case opened[edit]

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