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Yes, that was me. Is someone using it? I accidentally made it with a lower case c. Kyaa the Catlord (talk) 13:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for Image:TimeCrisis4Logo-1-.jpg[edit]

Thanks for uploading Image:TimeCrisis4Logo-1-.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale you have provided for using this image under "fair use" may be invalid. Please read the instructions at Wikipedia:Non-free content carefully, then go to the image description page and clarify why you think the image qualifies for fair use. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it will be deleted within a couple of days according to our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you.BetacommandBot (talk) 19:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Halo 3[edit]

Concerns on FAC page have been addressed. David Fuchs (talk) 17:37, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

In reply to [1][edit]

Sorry, I seem to have confused him with Cory Doctorow there somehow. --AVRS (talk) 14:28, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Lorelei7 images[edit]

I am glad to tell you that Wikipedia:Images_and_media_for_deletion/2007_October_21#Lorelei7_images that you started is closed with these images kept. I have transwikied them to Commons with the OTRS having confirmed the copyright permission. Furthermore, thank you very much for the Special Barnstar awarded to my talk page and your support to my stewardship on Meta.--Jusjih (talk) 04:09, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

You are now an administrator[edit]

Congratulations, I have just closed your RfA as successful and made you an administrator. Take a look at The Administrators' how-to guide and the Administrators' reading list if you haven't read those already. Also, some have found the practice exercises at the new admin school useful. If you have any questions drop me a message at My talk page. Best wishes, WjBscribe 21:08, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Congratulation and welcome to adminship. As there are at least hundreds but possibly thousands of untagged images here, I am going after untagged images here with Untagged Images Tool. Whether you are going after untagged images or not, I hereby introduce you User:Howcheng/quickimgdelete.js and installing it can make administering this site much more efficient. I install the tool from User_talk:Howcheng/quickimgdelete.js#Installation to User:Jusjih/monobook.js, my subpage. Please feel free to ask me if you have questions about adminship while I administer 10 Wiki sites with a lot of experience.--Jusjih 04:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations! You will do good work. Tread lightly as you lead the way. Splash - tk 23:45, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

The warriors of death[edit]

got a problem with ya, you deleited my band page the warriors of death, put it bak if you don't mind---Gangsta w----

Heather Young (model)[edit]

I went and checked, and the book is self-published, which doesn't confer any notability, which leaves only the unverifiable claim of being a top-ten model. But you're quite right, this isn't precisely covered by the guidelines, so I'll take this to AfD for more opinions than mine. Thanks for bringing me into line on this, it deserves to be considered according to the rules. Accounting4Taste:talk 03:19, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

What's on your mind (not you, the show)[edit]

You declined this speedy, stating that A7 doesn't apply to....But I didn't propose it under A7. --Brewcrewer 06:04, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

I had a hard time understanding your response on my talkpage. It's not your fault, I'm not around for that long to be fluent in "Wikipedia language." But let me rephrase my question, and then maybe your response to the question will be more understandable to me. The way I understand the "no-criteria" template ({{|db|reason}})it that it's "common sense" template. And one just gives a reason and for the common sense speedy deletion of the article. It, therefore, seemed incorrect to me to deny the speedy becasue it does not comply with one of the other templates. All the best, --Brewcrewer 15:51, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Let me ask you a simple question, what is the purpose of {{|db|reason}}? When is one supposed to use that template?

Professor Doliński[edit]

You've delated my note about Dariusz Doliński, because it is "Biography that does not assert notability". But acually I think it does! He is the most known polish psychologist, especially in the foreign countries. So please, put back my note!


Nope, that seemed to have accomplished what was needed. Thank you.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 04:37, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Hi, I'm trying to move Angel (Buffyverse), Spike (Buffyverse) , Master (Buffyverse), and Darla (Buffyverse) to "Angel (Buffy the Vampire Slayer)", etc. However, it's not working and Bignole advised me to ask you for help? Thanks.  Paul  730 21:07, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
I actually use the term Buffyverse quite a lot myself, but Bignole convinced me it was innappropiate for an encyclopedia. I can't see any difference to the Darla article, but I wasn't overly familar with it. Anyway, thanks a lot for doing that. There might be some more articles I missed, so I might call on you again if that's okay? :)  Paul  730 23:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I totally agree with you. The Buffyverse articles are not very good, and I'm in the process of cleaning them up. The Places articles are just a bit further down my priority list. They do deserve to be on the Sunnydale article, I'm surprised the library even has any OOU info. Yeah, a "Sunnydale" article with info regarding the sets and the metaphors of the location might make a decent little article actually.  Paul  730 10:12, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Is there any way to protect Faith (Buffy the Vampire Slayer) from being moved again? It keeps getting moved to fannish titles like her full name Faith Lehane (a name not in the TV series and barely known to anyone except fans) or Faith (Buffyverse).  Paul  730 18:55, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Disaster!: A Major Motion Picture Ride...Starring You![edit]

Another user deleted the article, stating that it was just adveruising for Universal Studios Florida. I hope you'll understand that the article did have reasons for deletion by now.--5VH9 (talk) 03:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Apprantly, now another user brought the page back--5VH9 (talk) 04:02, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the rational (and calm) petition on my talk page, I appreciate it. Tijuana Brass (talk) 03:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

User:5VH9 has opened an AfD for this: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Disaster!: A Major Motion Picture Ride...Starring You!. Tijuana Brass (talk) 04:06, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

James Blunt: Return to Kosovo[edit]

Thanks for fixing up my c&p on that article, I had completely forgotten that Giano II had made a couple of copy edits. Will keep this in mind for next time (or at least annoy someone who knows what they're doing). Cheers. Risker (talk) 04:21, 6 December 2007 (UTC)


An uncontrollable couldn't-help-it moment. Won't do it again. Soz. Plutonium27 (talk) 02:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Ace Attorney[edit]

Problem is, I haven't played Three yet! I'm hoping to get it for Christmas. I've just been so broke lately.—Loveはドコ? (talkcontribs) 06:34, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Melee talk page[edit]

You do not move talk pages in order to archive. I had already archived the talk page. Additionally, you removed the GA review template I had put on there. I had just nominated it for GA. Please do not remove the template! --Son (talk) 03:45, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Melee GA[edit]

It looks like some user has nominated this article without discussion even though he's made no contributions to the article. Basically, I'm not finished working on this article and know that it will get failed outright in its current state. I just urge the user to withdraw his nomination of the article. By the way, I've left some replies to your comments on the talk page. Thanks. Ashnard Talk Contribs 07:56, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know, there's a User:Hdbdragon88 now. I don't know, is this mimicry allowed on Wikipedia? Ashnard Talk Contribs 15:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


This probably answers your question. [2] I may be back - we will see. Regards and good luck. Spartaz Humbug! 19:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

List of enemies in Doom[edit]

Trying to AFD List of enemies in Doom but it appears that since it was already AFD'ed, it gives me that old page instead of a new page to SUBST; the new reason (fancruft) for. Can't find instructions, as they say "use preloaded" which doesn't apply here. Little help? Pharmboy (talk) 01:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Disputed fair use of Akanishi Jin image[edit]

Hi, i just got your message but am still a little confused. I've been searching Wikipedia for an example of something in a similar situation to mine and have found a TV screenshot on the SMAP page of Takuya KImura singing on TV with Ayumi Hamasaki and it appears as though that image is found to be acceptable. Another example is on the Yamashita Tomohisa page showing a screenshot of Yamashita during his TV show Nobuta Wo Produce (Image:Wiki-shujitoakira2.jpg). I actually originally followed the information posted for this image as an example of what sort of fair use information should be provided since this image has been deemed acceptable since 2006 when it was posted, so I'm doubly confused as to why it is acceptable whereas the Akanishi screenshot is not?

I am uncertain as to what constitutes a free and non-free image then? If the television station has distributed the tv show for public consumption, then shouldn't it be free for use by the public then?

Alternatively, I would argue that the image is merely provided to show Akanishi Jin doing his television talkshow, which, from the information i read before posting images, is an acceptable use of television, movies or poster images here on Wikipedia.


For this edit. I just wish the list users feature was also a search: that way, you could type in "Acalamari" and see how many usernames have "Acalamari" in them, rather than the list starting from "Acalamari". At any rate, good idea for putting it in. :) As you saw, I have a nice little collection of spoofers there. Acalamari 23:53, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

what the hell?[edit]

why did you delete the arsenal page? i was not done creating it. nice going dipshit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:30, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguation cleanup[edit]

Be careful when moving pages and deleting their redirects. I cleaned up the Justice for All (disambiguation) changes by removing the now-invalid hatnote from Justice for All (game show) and undeleting Justice for All (disambiguation). The explicit (disambiguation) redirect is used for intentional links to the disambiguation page, such as from the ...And Justice for All (disambiguation) page. Cheers! -- JHunterJ (talk) 13:21, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Questioning minor 1st paragraph edits?[edit]

Re: John Roberts, John Paul Stevens, Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, Clarence Thomas, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer, Samuel Alito, Sandra Day O'Connor
This is a small matter. I don't understand the reasons for Sjrplscjnky's recent minor edits of articles about each of the Justices of the Supreme Court. After some time, there has been no response to inquiries posted on this editor's talk page nor has there been feedback from similar postings on the talk pages of each of the nine articles about a sitting Justice and the one about retired Justice O'Connor. Rather than simply reverting this "improvement," I thought it best to solicit comment from others who might be interested. I found your name amongst others at Talk:Supreme Court of the United States.

I'm persuaded that Sjrplscjnky's strategy of introducing academic honors in the first paragraph is unhelpful in this narrow set of articles -- that is, in Wikipedia articles about Justices of the Supreme Court. I think my reasoning might well extend as well to others on the Federal bench. In each instance, I would question adding this information only in the first paragraph -- not elsewhere in the article.

In support of my view that this edit should be reverted, please consider re-visiting articles written about the following pairs of jurists.

The question becomes: Would the current version of the Wikipedia article about any one of them -- or either pair -- be improved by academic credentials in the introductory paragraph? I think not.

Perhaps it helps to repeat a wry argument Kathleen Sullivan of Stanford Law makes when she suggests that some on the Harvard Law faculty do wonder how Antonin Scalia avoided learning what others have managed to grasp about the processes of judging? I would hope this anecdote gently illustrates the point.

Less humorous, but an even stronger argument is the one Clarence Thomas makes when he mentions wanting to return his law degree to Yale.

As you can see, I'm questioning relatively trivial edit; but I hope you agree that this otherwise plausible "improvement" should be removed from introductory paragraphs of ten articles. If not, why not?

Would you care to offer a comment or observation? --Ooperhoofd (talk) 20:17, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

appreciate it[edit]

thanks for the tips, im new here Niyant (talk) 19:17, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Nintendo DS Lite vs Sony PSP[edit]

It's not an encyclopedia article and it's not going to be kept. You clearly agree since you proposed it for deletion yourself. It would be bureaucracy for bureaucracy's sake, but I'm willing to undelete it and waste people's time with an AfD if that's what you really want. Let me know. --Stormie (talk) 22:46, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

OK it's back. I have watchlisted it and will list it on AfD if anyone contests the proposed deletion. --Stormie (talk) 22:52, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Article Improvement[edit]

I don't think we've ever met, but I found your page and started laughing when I read your crash course improvement. It is almost exactly what I do to quickly improve an article, and I was surprised to see it written down step-by-step. If I ever meet someone who wants to help but doesn't know how, your list is certainly a good place to start (depending on how new they are).--CM (talk) 15:48, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

Hi, I replied to your comments there, but I'll copy paste my reply here too. Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 04:37, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

That (User:Giggy/RfA) was deleted as part of the User:Giggy namespace at the end of August, shortly after I renamed to this one (see the past RfA for some detail about that) - I have nominated numerous users under this username, none of which were listed on that page. Dihydrogen Monoxide (Review) 04:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

My steward election[edit]

Thank you for supporting my steward election having passed with 72-1-4-99%. Having not talked with you for some time, it seems that you are familiar with adminship here. Meanwhile, I am going after many very old untagged images here.Jusjih (talk) 03:39, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Evening Revival[edit]

i appear to have misread the situation regarding the prod; my apologies. we were basically on the same page about it anyway, i think, so it's all good. cheers, tomasz. 08:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh My![edit]

I see that you've finally re-made your user page. By the way, I've removed a personal attack from this page. I've left a scathing edit summary for him to read...if he returns, that is. -- Altiris Helios Exeunt 08:43, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Quick note[edit]

Yeah, good point; I'll remember that.—Ketil Trout (<><!) 00:40, 7 January 2008 (UTC)


Considering your comment at TPH, you might want to take a look at Q6 [ here]. DGG (talk) 10:48, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Help with cleaning up prose[edit]

Per the discussion now archived here: Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Archive 34, I noticed that you expressed a need for help with some general cleanup of the articles "timeline-like" prose. May I suggest a few other places to seek help: peer review is likely to generate some help, especially if you explain what kind of help you need AND you enlist some specific reviewers, such as those on this page: Wikipedia:Peer review/volunteers. Also, and perhaps even a better idea, is to list the article at The League of Copyeditors, who are Wikipedians who specifically enjoy fixing the prose in an article. Like PR, the page is often backlogged and contacting a few editors in addition to listing the article for cleanup help may be beneficial to you. I hope that is of some help. If you need any further help, drop me a note on my talk page! --Jayron32|talk|contribs 00:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

RE: High Regard list[edit]

Gosh; someone has a lot of time on their hands! Thanks, that's great :). I would give you a barnstar, but it looks rather complicated, and it's not like you have never received one before. Kind regards, —Celestianpower háblame 17:05, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

My RfA[edit]

My request for adminship was successful at 64/1/2! Many thanks for your participation and I will endeavor to meet your expectations. Cheers, Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 08:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Pat Ross[edit]

Hmm, something seems to have gone amiss—we've lost the actual dab page listing. Thanks! --Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 05:32, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Uh-oh. Can we recreate it? Do you remember who was the other Pat Ross? I know there was Pat Ross (businessman). hbdragon88 (talk) 05:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Are you able to restore the edits of Pat Ross (disambiguation) and then move them to Pat Ross? --Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 05:36, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
There aren't any edits there. Just my edit that i moved the page. hbdragon88 (talk) 05:37, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
There must have been edits at Pat Ross (disambiguation) before the deletion, no? Anyway the other one is Pat Ross (American football). --Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 05:39, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
When I moved the page, all the edits from the (disambiguation) page should have been moved to the regular Pat Ross page. But they've been lost – they don't show up in either location. hbdragon88 (talk) 05:40, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Right! A bug maybe? --Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 05:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion of SHS (high schools)[edit]

High schools place on dab's is subject to ongoing discussion. See Wikipedia_talk:Disambiguation#Acronyms_that_can_refer_to_names_of_schools. Taemyr (talk) 13:13, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Why did you delete this page when the discussions are still onging? Unless you have an objection I intend to reinstate it shortly, its long term life being subject to consensus of course. Reply here pls. Abtract (talk) 14:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Becuase I didn't check Talk:SHS before deleting, and I don't check the disambiguation talk pages to see if this is a newfangled procedure for doing things. Someone thought it was G1, I thought that was nonsense, but speedied it on the basis of WP:IAR that I thought it was redundant to the main dab page. If you would like it restored I can do that. hbdragon88 (talk) 22:04, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


Problem with my browser. It told me that the edit had not gone through when in fact it had. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 02:29, 21 January 2008 (UTC)


I've edited my message and removed mention of a block, per your request. I don't know anything about this user... I just thought he should stop posting on Guy's talk for the time being. Perhaps my wording was too harsh, so that's why I toned it down (though I'm not an admin anyways so it really couldn't be viewed as a threat). I hope that it ends here. ATren (talk) 07:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Regarding the message you left on User talk:Dethzone; I'm pretty sure that the 'article' he's working on at User:Dethzone/SANDBOX isn't an article. It appears that he's just using the page as personal scratch space for an entirely fictional story he's writing. Since his arrival in early December, he's made only eighteen (almost entirely minor) edits to the mainspace; the vast bulk of his (nearly four hundred) edits is to his userspace, to projects unrelated to the encyclopedia.
Leaving all-caps messages begging for attention from JzG the same day Guy's father passes away shows an alarming lack of either maturity or awareness, and Dethzone should not be surprised if the community decides – soon – that his contributions are neither welcomed nor needed. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 14:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)


Hi can you please move this now , 4 in favour ,1 oppose ,2 neutral Gnevin (talk) 23:26, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


...for coming to the libel rescue. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 04:50, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

2xtreme (Theme song)[edit]

There are no incoming links links except for user pages (and I suspect most of those links are from the CSD tag I put on the article). Also, the article was for the video game 2xtreme until someone hijacked it last month (diff). If you still don't want to delete it, that's fine, but I thought I'd point this information out. Precious Roy (talk) 21:39, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Icecream (software)[edit]

Thanks for the notice on my talk page.

I believe you're referring to my redirect of "Icecream" to "Ice cream", which appears to have been changed into an article about a software package, and later renamed [3] to "Icecream (software)". Please feel free to AfD it, but please check the edit history in detail before assuming that the author of the first revision listed for a page is the author of the article in question. -- The Anome (talk) 02:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

My Rfa[edit]

My effort to regain adminship was unsuccessful, and I'll do what I can to ensure your opinion of my suitability for adminship improves. Thank you for taking some time out of your day to voice your opinion.--MONGO 19:34, 27 January 2008 (UTC)


how dead men walking is not totable. Therew worse movie articles that have existed for a long time. and i cna't edit because

1: i can't watch that movey, i want to throw up all the time 2: i don't have it available to watch.--Cody6 (talk) 01:43, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of page[edit]

You deleted my user page without consulting me. its says you did it by user request but I never asked you to delete my page. tell me why you did that?


Thank You,

5dsddddd (talk) 17:18, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


I can has mop?
Hi Hbdragon88! Thank-you for your support in my RfA (91/1/1).
I take all the comments to heart and hope I can fulfil the role of being
an admin to the high standard that the community deserves.
Seraphim♥ Whipp 18:28, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


I'll go ahead and tag it. Before it was deleted a couple of users who voted delete asked that it be userfied so they could work on it, so I went ahead and did it for them. I guess they forgot about it like I did. Since I never planned to work on it anyway I have no heartache with its deletion. Thanks for reminding me to trash this thing :P. Peace, SexySeaBass 01:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Al Siebert[edit]

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An article that you have been involved in editing, Al Siebert, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al Siebert. Thank you. B. Wolterding (talk) 15:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


Thanks. I assume you were not referring to me on WPFF's talkpage? I've always strongly recommend featured article review as a last resort (mainly because Sandy, Tony, myself, and others were spread thin on FAC/FAR as it already was, and having an obviously personal connection to a few of the recent ones doesn't help to get things done); I don't think my comment was worthy of a NPA-deleted comment :), so I take it you meant someone else? — Deckiller 15:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Die Hard[edit]

I have done what you asked, and given the plot section a fairly serious pruning. I have no objection to brevity, but I felt that the basic structure of the "original" version was fine.

Undelete page[edit]

Please un-delete my page!!

5dsddddd (talk) 20:55, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Pokémon[edit]

The list of participants of the Pokémon WikiProject is quite sizable, however, there is no way to determine which of whom are active contributors to that project. All participants in the list have been moved to Inactive. If you consider yourself to be an active member of the Pokémon WikiProject, please go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Pokémon#Participants and move your username to the Active section. Thank you. Useight (talk) 22:34, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

THE SO SO GLOS DESERVE TO BE ON WIKIPEDIA. WHO ARE YOU TO DECIDE? —Preceding unsigned comment added by The so so glos (talkcontribs) 21:46, 30 March 2008 (UTC) PRESS IS UP ABOUT THE SO SO GLOS. LET'S GET THAT PAGE PUBLISHED ALREADY. P.S. DO YOUR RESEARCH. HURRY UP! LEGIT BAND, THIS IS NONSENSE. EXTRA, EXTRA, READ THE PRESS BABAY!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by The so so glos (talkcontribs) 22:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Batman OnStar Commercial Batsuit[edit]

Hello. The batsuit used on the Onstar commercials is clearly the George Clooney batsuit from Batman & Robin (film). It is NOT the Val Kilmer suit from "Batman Forever". Here is a pic of the Clooney suit, and here is the suit from the OnStar commercials. The only difference is that the yellow was added to the chest symbol. Here is a pic of the Kilmer 'panther' suit. You be the judge. I would really like to keep the info on the page because I truly believe my information is fact. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:30, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Missing Wikipedians[edit]

Hi Dragon, Came about your page and seeing that you have made some edits to the Missing Wikipedians page thought you might add User:Compwhizii to the list. He just recently left a goodbye message and you can see it on his page. Thanks Roadrunnerz45 (talk) 00:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Excalibur -> Luxor[edit]

I believe there is a tram that connects the two hotels (does taking a tram count as being outside?), but I've never done it myself so don't know for sure. --SesameballTalk 08:10, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

I consider taking a tram to have to go outside, yes. I just went to Las Vegas and I walked through a shopping area that connected me from the Mandalay Bay to the Luxor, but I can't see a way to do the same for Luxor to Excalibur other than going outside. And the Luxor sucks. They use reflective white material and they had no benches outside the tram! It was hot! hbdragon88 (talk) 23:08, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

thanks for the welcome back[edit]

Hello, thanks for the welcome back. I didn't even know that I was listed as a Missing Wikipedian. I had to take care of things in real life, and I didn't know how long it would take. Now that you point out that list to me, there are far more familiar names than I expected. How very sad. Anyway, I'm glad to be back and at semi-active. All the best, --Kyoko 16:38, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry for the late reply... thanks for maintaining such a list. It's regrettable that there is an apparent need for such a list (due to people leaving/disappearing for various reasons) but at least future Wikipedians will be able to learn about their predecessors. I hope that makes sense. --Kyoko 16:11, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Kiplyn Davis article[edit]

Thanks for further reverting the additional NPOV info on the Kiplyn Davis article. I'm having a hard time keeping it clean as there are multiple anon editors who seem intent on inserting their own view on the investigation. I have it on my watch list, but it's good to know that there's another pair of eyes on it! ponyo (talk) 13:27, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


Well, actually it was a whole article for this (non-sense) information. I merged it all in order to avoid the loss of content, but I agree with you that the list of all guests and jokes is needless. --Lord Opeth (talk) 12:03, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks[edit]

Thanks for your support in my RFA, that didn't quite make it and ended at 120/47/13. There was a ton of great advice there, that I'm going to go on. Maybe someday. If not, there are articles to write! Thanks for your support. Lawrence § t/e 18:06, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

StarCraft: Ghost[edit]

Would you mind taking another look at User:S@bre/StarCraft: Ghost, and give me some feedback on it? I've got most of the text in-place, except for the development section. Don't worry about the external links sitting in the references section, they're for my construction benefit only, and will be gone when the article is moved into mainspace. -- Sabre (talk) 15:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

John Hall[edit]

Thanks I've moved it. -Justin (koavf)TCM☯ 06:05, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


Three things: firstly, be careful! I don't know what you were thinking, or if you even knew what you were doing, but you managed to remove an entire section that I'd added in the meantime. Secondly, there is nothing in the MoS that says you should refrain from making image size changes. It says it is not necessary, but also says "Image size is a matter of preference". The wording does not imply that either adding or not using a size is better than the alternative. Thirdly, it is impossible to see what is in some of the images at that size, which defeats the entire objective of having images - at 250px, you can clearly see what's going on in the briefing image, you can read the text and see the characters. At this size, it crushes it all, making it illegible and undiscernable. I'm not going to restore the sizes at current, but next time, at least make it consistent for all the images, you missed the two screenshots further down. -- Sabre (talk) 18:00, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, having re-read that, it sounds a bit angry. When you read this, don't take it as such. -- Sabre (talk) 20:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
By the way, do you have any comments on the rewrite itself? Does it tick the boxes for you? -- Sabre (talk) 11:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

Duke Nukem 3D Authorized Products[edit]

Scroll directly to the bottom and it will show the Kill-a-ton package, which includes all the 3DR authorized products in one package. Duke Caribbean wasn't out yet when that was put together, which is the reason it isn't included. Same for Nuclear Winter. None of the current packs on the wikipage are fan made or unathorized. Wizard Works was a subsidary of GT Interactive, which had the publishing rights to Duke 3D.

etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlie Wiederhold (talkcontribs) 01:36, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Why no redirects?[edit]

Curious, I noticed that White Cat's Davenbelle link had gone cold, and noticed that you had done the deed. I mean, we have WP:RFAR/HWY, for instance. Davenbelle has the strange convention of three separately named parties, which makes it more difficult to remember. I can remember Cool Cat and Davenbelle fine, but it takes a bit to remember Stereotek's user name, much less type it in correctly with the spacing and puncutation. hbdragon88 (talk) 00:12, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Redirects should not be sharing the namespace with regular case names. I'm not fond of WP:RFAR/HWY either, but at least it's in the shortcut format. See this discussion. --bainer (talk) 02:14, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Clubhouse Games[edit]

What would you think about expanding the Reception to delve more into individual criticisms and praises? - A Link to the Past (talk) 05:46, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Touch! Generations FT[edit]

Are there any articles you're interested in featuring in the TGFT (besides Clubhouse Games, even though it'll never happen)? - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:30, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I know a few people pretty fluent in Japanese. Give me development sources and I can try to get them translated. - A Link to the Past (talk) 23:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Image:BlueMorningGloryClose.jpg[edit]

Whoops, sorry about that! SMirC-cry.svg I made a mental note to undelete everything but the {{FeaturedPicture}} notice, but must have forgotten while I was working on the rest of the Commons backlog. east.718 at 19:08, May 6, 2008

Ken Oosterbroek[edit]

My apologise, I've yet to read the books on the Bang Bang club (Going to soon), I've been using as a source. I'm pretty sure it's accurate, but the book is probably more accurate. Anyway, don't be a stranger, feel free to add more information to the Oosterbroek page. --Normal Phobic (talk) 17:22, 9 May 2008 (UTC)


You should know he has come back to hack and chop Pokemon articles.

He changed his name from Vikrant Phadkay to Ultraviolet scissor flame, he has been blocked twice as a vandal for being a page blanker [Phadkay]. He also failed spectacularly when he tried to be a Wikipedia Admin Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Vikrant Phadkay. He is also a master sock puppeteer, Paerduug, [4] and then when he realised he had given himself away, he tried to cover it up [5]

See the Talk Page on the Paul McCartney article to see how fed up the editors are with him there. I hope you protect the Pokemon pages from him. (talk) 13:54, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

FPC I'd Like Help With[edit]

I was just wondering if you wouldn't mind going to Portal:James Bond. I'd really appreciate any criticisms or support that you could provide for this Featured portal candidate. Thanks. Ultra! 23:59, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Keith Howard[edit]

  • Bad dog, no biscuit. ^.^ JuJube (talk) 12:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)


I want my old page back, this version:

ok, that version —Preceding unsigned comment added by 5dsddddd (talkcontribs) 18:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC) nvm

I'm back[edit]

I will be working on wikipedia for a lot over the summer so


5dsddddd (talk) 17:04, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:JFKmotorcade.jpg)[edit]

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User:Orangemarlin RFAR[edit]

Per ruling of the arbcom here: Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitration/Orangemarlin#Arbitrator_views_and_discussion an RFAR on Orangemarlin has been opend here: Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#User:Orangemarlin. You are invited to submit your evidence and statements.. RlevseTalk 16:53, 29 June 2008 (UTC)


What, me jokey? ;) --Badger Drink (talk) 19:07, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:TimeCrisis4Logo-1-.jpg)[edit]

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MfD nomination of Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Noticeboard[edit]

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X-Files Truth Article[edit]

I never said it was vandalism. I believe I left the original line intact. --GSK (talk) 16:53, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Metzen rewrite[edit]

Heya, you recently posted a quick prose-related comment at User:S@bre/Chris Metzen. I was hoping I could ask you to give it another quick and brief go-over now I've filled in the career section with something, just for prose errors and the like. I'd also like some feedback on the style of the section: at the moment its pretty much just a prose-ification of the list in the current version, but although I'm hoping I can get interesting tidbits to sprinkle throughout as is in Martin O'Donnell, I'm not that confident that such information will be forthcoming.

In its current approach, is it acceptable/passable, or is it likely to get hit by a "this looks like a resume" tag? If the latter is true, what can I do to improve it? I've not done a biographical article before, so this stuff's all new to me, and the guidelines I've looked at haven't been all that helpful. Thanks! -- Sabre (talk) 14:22, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! Just need to find some extra references for the career section and I'm all set then! -- Sabre (talk) 10:09, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Awww[edit]

I already took care of the redirects.

IMDb is not a reliable source.

-- Powers T 00:15, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Die Hard - Removal of /*Goofs*/[edit]

Thanks for removing the "Goofs" section of the article. I'm glad someone else agrees that certain plot inconsistencies and continuity errors do not merit an encyclopaedic section. —Archon Magnus(Talk | Home) 00:36, 30 July 2008 (UTC)


Could you clarify (preferably somewhere other than the RfA...) who your comment at Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Gazimoff is directed at? —Giggy 10:07, 3 August 2008 (UTC)

Many thanks![edit]

Nash Point West.jpg Thank you...

...for participating in my RfA, which closed with 119 in support, 4 neutral and 5 opposes. I'm honestly overwhelmed at the level of support that I've received from the community, and will do my best to maintain the trust placed in me. I 'm also thankful to those who opposed or expressed a neutral position, for providing clear rationales and superb feedback for me to build on. I've set up a space for you to provide any further feedback or thoughts, should you feel inclined to. However you voted, thanks for taking the time out to contribute to the process, it's much appreciated. Kind regards, Gazimoff 22:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


Thanks...although that was in March :) — Deckiller 03:51, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Congrats :) I think the confusion is because I edited my userpage two months afterward; I wasn't very active for a while. — Deckiller 04:58, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Mall Police[edit]

Please Do Chat About MALL POLICE!? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mall Police (talkcontribs) 06:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of Power Rangers in Space episodes[edit]

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A Chorus Line[edit]

I'm not quite sure what went on in this edit (my ISP has been very unreliable lately, although I suppose it could have been a Wiki issue), but thanks for fixing it regardless. Cheers! :) —MearsMan talk 05:40, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


This was my experience: because having a extra chapter in the paperback version of a novel is unprecedented as far as I know, I was sceptical of the claim in the text until I saw the cover. So I regard the image as a "visual reference" and therefore valuable. However, if you still don't think it justified, fair enough. Robina Fox (talk) 19:31, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

VMware ThinApp[edit]

Hi, I replied on my talk page SF007 (talk) 23:11, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Editing in my userspace without letting me know[edit]

First off, I would have appreciated had you displayed the politeness to notify me of editing in my userspace. Secondly, the rule about cross-namespace redirects applies only to redirects from article namespace to other namespaces. user:Everyme 13:31, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Redirects to the Talk:, User: or User talk: namespace from the article space. If this was the result of a page move, consider waiting a day or two before deleting the redirect. Spirit of R2? Also, this is clearly different in that it isn't a redirect from my main userpage, but from a subpage. Where someone clicks on my username, they will be redirected to my talk page. Still, for all my stubbornness I'm generally open to arguments, if and when I'm offered any. That said, I regard the issue as resolved. user:Everyme 19:00, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Simple English Wikipedia[edit]

Yeah, I should probably get back to editing it again. Heck, I bet my efforts on Mario Bros. could have been better received on SEW, since most articles on there don't get that good (at least for games). - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:25, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Pokemon unmerge proposal[edit]

Hello, this message is being sent to inform you that a proposal to un-merge all Pokemon articles has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pokemon#Pokemon and their rightful place. As a member of WikiProject Pokemon, your input would be much appreciated. GlassCobra 22:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

What is the context?[edit]

Please review this edit. The list claims to be "official" - but has no identification of who has compiled the list. The only context is that it is a list of 5 Kollywood actors that someone has decided have "Colossal" "huge" or "big" fanbases. -- The Red Pen of Doom 19:10, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

OK- Going with PROD instead of speedy is fine with me. -- The Red Pen of Doom 21:33, 28 November 2008 (UTC)


sorry, I thought you were disbelieving the whole paragraph there not the sentance when u put citation needed there. my mistake , however BenBell the Exec. Producer said you will be able to "create uniqe sims" —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 19:15, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Random scheduling[edit]

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Rosemary Owens[edit]

I read WP:PROF #6 as applying to the Chancellor of the U. of A., not to the dean of every constituent school thereof. I gather your reading is different? --Orange Mike | Talk 01:49, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Now that I've re-read the guideline and read the notes appended to the bottom, it says it does have to be president or chancellor, and that positions like provost, dean, department chair do not qualify. So you were interpreting it correctly. I'll prod it. hbdragon88 (talk) 04:18, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Canon EF lens articles[edit]

I have no idea why splitting up each lens to its own article was done. I agree, keep each EF lens article grouped based on focal length. There is simply not enough information, at this time, for each lens to have its own article. Currently the Canon EF 24mm lens, and Canon EF 28mm lens have also been done the "split-up" way. The Canon EF 300mm lens page, and the other pages were stared by user:Rama. My guess is that he thought that splitting up would be better. But since every other lens article is grouped by focal length, consensus has shown we should group. I will do the necessary edits to bring continuity to the articles. Nebrot (talk) 10:14, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

My RFB[edit]

Hello, you commented in my recent unsuccessful RFB, and I just had a quick question for you, if you don't mind. You said, "Wikipedia isn't a game." I was just wondering what led you to believe that I consider Wikipedia a game, as I surely do not. Was there something I said that I should clarify or clear up? Useight (talk) 03:06, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

I got that impression when you said that you didn't like adminbots because they didn't allow you to build up your edit count. Bragging about edit counts and such is game-like, to me, a kind of boasting, a competition to see who had more edits than another person. hbdragon88 (talk) 04:02, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Ah, I can see how that could be derived from what I said. Note, though, that I wasn't referring to adminbots with that statement, but particular anti-vandalism bots. The wording I should have used is "bots often take away my opportunity to edit" not "bots often take away my opportunity to build up my edit count". By this I mean that I come to Wikipedia to edit, not to get repeatedly beat over and over again in such a frustrating manner. I mean, I sit down at my computer, notice some vandalism on my watchlist; I go to revert it and before I can, ClueBot has jumped in. If this happens more than a couple of times, my purpose for sitting down to edit has been frustrated, so I just move from to and Wikipedia loses any contribution I would have made that afternoon. Imagine if you went down to the gym to play a little basketball but your friend brought along a guy who was incredibly good and every time you went to shoot a basket, he blocked it back into your face. It makes you not want to play anymore. That's why I don't like bots that revert. Also, if I cared so much about edit count, I'd be trying my hardest to run to the top of this list by Huggling every day. Aside from today, I hadn't Huggled in nearly a month. You also won't find lists of barnstars I've recieved, articles I've written, or the like on my userpage. I am not competing with anybody in any game-like fashion, I just want to edit. Hopefully that helps clarify my original comment. Useight (talk) 04:27, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry about that, I just thought adminbots, but I meant anti vandalism bots. I see your point that you view reverting vandalism as part of your enjoyment of Wikipedia and how anti vandalism bots detract from that. I still believe that having the bots is overwhelmingly a good thing but would strike my oppose based on that clarification. hbdragon88 (talk) 07:10, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, I know I'm in a super minority, about 99 to 1 (or more), but maybe if I knew more about bots, I would learn to appreciate them as well. Those four comments I made that everyone brought up at my RFB, it was actually really random that I made them. I had never, ever been to BRFA before and I happened to see and follow a link I spotted on a usertalk page. There they were conversing about secret admin bots, which, up to that point, I did not know existed. I never get involved in the drama-filled aspects of Wikipedia (like ANI), because I just want to get work done, not stress over he-said, she-said. Anyway, I thought, "Oh, man, secret admin bots are bad" and it further biased my thinking, which was already, "Bots keep beating me to my work." I'm going to approach some BAG members as a humble student and try to learn what makes bots so great. It's going to take a lot more time than seeing two pages and making four comments, but if I can get all the information, I could change my mind. After all, I used to oppose admin candidates because they used scripts, but I've since learned more and now use Huggle myself. I've seen the good in these scripts. Will the same happen for bots? Who knows, but I'm going to find out. Useight (talk) 16:31, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Watchmen characters[edit]

Actually, all the Watchmen character articles have been redirected to List of characters in Watchmen, since they were primarily plot summaries that didn't warrant separate articles. As a result, that character page is currently being rewritten to focus on real-world notability. Rorschach is the only character who possibly warrants his own article, which is why it remains as such; nonetheless, all that plot description needs to go. WesleyDodds (talk) 05:37, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Re: Piotrus 2[edit]

There was Durova, which started as Durova and Jehochman. I think there was another one last year as well, but I can't recall the name. Kirill 15:50, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Watchmen character list[edit]

I think I'm going to try and fill out one character section per week for the next few weeks, complete with references. Hopefully we can get this into shape. WesleyDodds (talk) 13:20, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Awesome. Thanks for the help. hbdragon88 (talk) 17:08, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

RfD nomination of Creatures in Metroid Prime 2, Metroid Prime Hunters, and Metroid Prime 3[edit]

I have nominated Creatures in Metroid Prime 2, Metroid Prime Hunters, and Metroid Prime 3 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) for discussion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at the discussion page. Thank you. ZXCVBNM 21:47, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Point Blank\c[edit]

Sorry about that. However it is impossible when using rollback to do your own edit summary as it is auto. I thought it was a misleading one and was going by what it said at the start of the article. Simply south not SS, sorry 15:30, 9 January 2009 (UTC)


Hi Hbdragon, Trying to find out why you deleted the Killian's Angels entry? Please send me an email at or respond on this thread. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:22, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


Hi Hbdragon, Trying to find out why you deleted the Killian's Angels entry. Please send me an email at or respond on this thread. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:25, 10 January 2009 (UTC)


Hbdragon-- still waiting to learn why you deleted the Killian's Angels page from Wikipedia Shaunchristmas (talk) 03:27, 12 January 2009 (UTC)shaunchristmas

Killian's Angels deletion, and Las Vegas Sun article[edit]

In case you're wondering what all the inquiries about Killian's Angels are about, see:

Be careful to make sure CSD tags are legitimate before actually deleting articles. In this case, CSD A7 should not have applied, because the article stated the band "won national radio honors". Also, after the initial tagging, the creator used the talk page to mention coverage of the band in reliable sources.--ragesoss (talk) 22:17, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

Deletionists suck, they make the website unfriendly, and they often bring us bad press because they are lazy and do no research on their own. They suck. Always have, always will. I hope you're not one. --David Shankbone 02:03, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I've usually seen myself to be a mergist. I used to merge video game characters and locations together into lists, and still occasionally merge things (such as the D40x into the D40). I also tend to prefer to make concise statements and delete plot-heavy and uncited material (past week: removed 13K from LXG, 10K from SecuROM, 3K from David Cain, 4K from Cassandra Cain). Does that make me a deletionst? hbdragon88 (talk) 02:45, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't think you read the article. Cenhx (talk) 17:37, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

I Need To Know...[edit]

Would you mind if I ask why you deleted the information A7 Gersang? I have interest in Asian game Gersang. Can you add the information about the game gersang the more detailed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:21, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

It was a long article of an MMORPG game that described how to play but not why it was notable. It did not say what awards it had won, or anybody that reviewed it, or any information on how it was developed. Because it was an online game only, it qualified under the A7 web content criteria. hbdragon88 (talk) 18:02, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Circuit City[edit]

Why did you revert my edit? hbdragon88 (talk) 20:14, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Because it was illiterate nonsense. Go back and read it for yourself. "35,000 oeioke will lose thier"? No chance that's staying. Did you look at it before you asked me why? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:29, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
I was trying to simplify it. So my right hand moved over one key and I misspelled "their". You can clearly see that my effort was good faith, not vandalism. Why can't you just fix it rather than wholesale reverting? hbdragon88 (talk) 02:00, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Actually, it was "oeioke" that was the problem, and that clearly looks like vandalism. That's why I can't fix it. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 19:59, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
Well, alright then. I'll be a lot more careful in the future to look over my edits. hbdragon88 (talk) 20:09, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm back[edit]


Just thought that I'd drop you a quick note, since you were the one who added me to Wikipedia:Missing Wikipedians. I've resumed at least intermittent editing, although we'll see how long it lasts and to what extent. I realize now that I got so involved in Wikipedia that I burned myself out, so I'm going to try to keep it in check, although that may be difficult to do. I see that, on the whole, not a whole lot has changed in a year. Sure, there are rollbackers now and a few new things, but most policies and such are pretty much as I remember them, and what's new is pretty sensible (at least so far). In the article space, some articles were still pretty much in the state in which I left them; Diary of a Camper even survived a Main-Page appearance with little more than a few copyedits. That pleased me.

I'm still settling in. If all goes well, I do plan to resume substantive article editing. We'll see. Machinima is first target; fortunately, it didn't degrade too much over the year that I was gone. I also see that WP:VG wants to pull WP:MACH under its hood. That's fine by me, but I can only hope that someone else or two finds the technical aspects of the subject interesting enough to research. That's the really difficult, obscure part about the subject; the articles on the fiction itself are pretty manageagble if you treat them as something of an odd hybrid of film, web content (usually), and video games, each of which has some good expertise on Wikipedia.

I'll try to look at real video game articles now and then, too. We all know that some are in dire need of attention. I just came across one article where about 12-15 hours of gameplay apparently requires 18K of plot summary to describe.

Anyway, I've rambled on enough. I missed Wikipedia to some extent while I was enjoying the other things in life. I never really forgot about it, though, and it's good to be back. — TKD::Talk 02:29, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Excellent. Welcome back, TKD! hbdragon88 (talk) 04:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Greg Land[edit]

Two things:

If you read back I did not restore the whole section. Select passages were deleted, mostly those heavily POV. But obviously, anything that is labeled under "Controversy" will be labeled as POV by default. Deleting such a section based on that is self-defeating. That does not warrant outright deletion. Second, a blog offering hard observable proof remains proof no matter what. This visual art-related topic requires visual identification of the controversy, which is provided as part of those links. Editor linking theese do not do so for the comments of the source so much as the content that is being presented for identification. This is ambiguous as far as Wikipedia guidelines go, but if you know the comics business, this is not a small issue and it is not unreferenced. Therefore it deserves to stay, especially since it is consensus here on WK that Greg Land has been repeatedly criticized as swiping, recycling and tracing artwork. Fetternity (talk) 07:07, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

No, just because the blog has said so, does not make it so. See BLP Reliable sources. "Never use self-published books, zines, websites, webforums, and blogs as a source for material about a living person" hbdragon88 (talk) 03:54, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

Powershot SX10[edit]

Hey, well I suppose if you are going to re-direct all of them due to a policy about notability that makes more sense. To me it looked like you were singling out the SX10. I thought it was kinda nice to have it, as most SLR cameras have an article and the powershot model line of "bridge cameras" are close to SLR level. I'm fine with the redirect if its an across the board type thing, just maybe take the pictures into the other article as each of these cams have a picture. Have a good one! Stu pendousmat (talk) 18:57, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Image of 500D[edit]

Hay, looks like a user added a photo of the Canon 500D. The photo is from the canon USA website, and is copyright. It does provide a fair use rational, don't know if that is acceptable. But the photograph is modified, which I know is a no–no. Here is link —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nebrot (talkcontribs) 12:05, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Securom controversies (in Securom article)[edit]

Sblade1 (talk) 15:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC) - EDIT HbDragon88. The sims 2 has caused controversy. | url = | - - This is only 1 of the BBS (official TS2 forum) hot discussions - - EA has dropped Securom on The Sims 3 now. A sticky thread in official EA forum:,item.43,item.61,item.104,item.41,item.127,item.23 - - If Securom hadn´t caused controversy in The Sims 2, EA wouldn´t have dropped it. - - BTW more articles for Spore - - Hbdragon88 do your job as an admin thank you. -

Sorry, but BBS discussions are not hard, reliable, third party resources, as per WP:V and WP:RS. hbdragon88 (talk) 02:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

So are you saying the official Sims 2 forum isn´t a hard, reliable source for The Sims 2 game? The context of this controversy is SIMS 2, and there isn´t any better primary source to this controversy than these official forums. The context is the key of Veriafibility you have shown to me.

EDIT: I insist, which are the reliable sources for The sims 2 games? Their official boards BBS must be one of them. Sblade1 (talk) 12:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Fast & Furious redirect[edit]

Hi !

There is something I don't know how to do, and I was wondering if you could perhaps do it : I agree with you that this movie is no more dominant than the 1939 movie. However, both movies have slightly distinct titles. Could you make it so that when people search for "fast & furious", it directs them to the 2009 movie page, with a disclaimer at the top of that page saying "for the 1939 film Fast and Furious click here" Conversely, could you make it so that when people search for "fast and furious", it directs them to the 1939 movie page, with a disclaimer at the top of that page saying "for the 2009 film Fast & Furious click here"

That would be great if you could do that... Thanks in advance !--Marc-Olivier Pagé (talk) 01:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

To disambiguate like that, I think it might be easier to move Fast & Furious (2009 film) to Fast & Furious and Fast and Furious (1939 film) to Fast and Furious. It's sort of like how W. (2008 film) was moved to W. (film) with a dab notice for W (1974 film). hbdragon88 (talk) 02:38, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Excellent idea ! If you could do that, it would be greatly appreciated. I wish I knew how to do that !--Marc-Olivier Pagé (talk) 04:14, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
Thank you !!--Marc-Olivier Pagé (talk) 17:20, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/A Man In Black[edit]

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This is for the plot section on Point Blanc that you shortened. Spongefrog (talk) 10:51, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I tried it myself once, but anons keep putting stuff back in. Almost all the Alex Rider novel articles have this problem, you might consider doing them too, specifically Skeleton Key. Or not. Spongefrog (talk) 10:51, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar. It's a perpetual problem; I guess, if I check in once a month, I just rewrite it. Happens to all articles I watch...I don't know how aggressive I should be with it. hbdragon88 (talk) 20:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

BE VERY AGGRESIVE. With Alex Rider articles anyway, because, as I said, people gradually put stuff back in. Anyway, I HAVE TO SLEEP NOW Spongefrog (talk) 22:05, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

NOTICE to all members of WikiProject Pokémon[edit]

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Gilad Shalit on Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/June 25[edit]

Hi there. FYI, see these comments I made: [6] [7] [8]

As of now, I do not have the energy to actually think carefully and read all the relevant archived talk discussions about whether you should reverted or not. I do not know if someone else will. All I can say is that this type of scenario is another reason why us admins maintaining the Main Page templates are a little more reluctant to avoid posting articles that have been the subject of an RFC and/or mediation request and stick with those that have been purely high-quality articles free from those kind of issues. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:10, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

And yes, in the first couple of years of being an admin here, I probably once did fulfill a request by a user only to find out that the issue had been discussed over and over previously – and my change might have actually went against consensus. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 05:23, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. I should have checked the article history. I just thought that lead wording was long-standing and did not realize that the person had changed the lead before making the requests. I agree, the Main Page should reflect the article itself, which was the assumption I operated under. hbdragon88 (talk) 05:50, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I've self-reverted for now and await further discussion before proceeding. hbdragon88 (talk) 05:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

ReclaimYourGame source[edit]

Hi there.

I´m one of the admins at and I´m a little annoyed due to the fact that, one way or another, you hide the fact that the Official Securom Uninstaller does leave the License Information on the registry. If you do not want to undo the edit I warn you that we are getting more popular very soon, we are interviewing 2 major DRM vendors.

If you don´t like RYG fine. But the information must be complete. I want somewhere in the Securom article that the uninstaller does NOT COMPLETELY uninstall Securom software.

Regards Sblade —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sblade1 (talkcontribs) 11:10, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Please don't sound like you're issuing a threat. I hate SecuROM but this article needs to be brushed up to standards and not be a vehicle for hate. (same deal with Greg Land, I don't like him either but a blog is not a reliable source.) Please link to the original BBS post that states that SecuROM leave bits behind. The RYG tutorial does not link to any such post, at least if I've read the tutorial correctly. hbdragon88 (talk) 16:22, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Their own FAQ from Securom themselves is clear

Why is this information protected against deletion? Allowing for the easy deletion of this information would essentially remove the copy protection from the application, allowing easy copying of the publisher's intellectual property. Deleting this information also impacts SecuROM™'s DRM functionality. Some examples to illustrate this:Protection setting Consequence if DRM license information is deleted Online activation required Imagine that someone first correctly activates (unlocks) an application and then deletes the DRM license information. SecuROM™ would then believe that the application has not yet been unlocked and would ask for a new activation. This would result in the user "losing" an activation. Allow up to only 10 launches of an application Imagine that someone launches such an application 10 times, and then deletes the DRM license information. SecuROM™ would then believe that the application has not yet been launched and would again permit 10 additional launches.

Obviously, this is not in the interest of the rights owner.

I have another thing that can be edited, Securom no longers blacklists Process Explorer since version 7.39 and higher. This is one of the common demands for gamers. AS for sources. I´m the tech man who does the tests. If you want to test it yourself. Download Protection ID to identify Securom versions and test it on Securom games while launching Process Explorer Sblade1 (talk) 12:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Regards Sblade

Their information is protected because they're a primary source. See WP:RS; Wikipedia discourages primary but in the absence of good secondary sources we can use them. Unfortunately, unless you're an expert in the field of computer tech, having been published before and well-known, you are not a viable self-published source that we can use. hbdragon88 (talk) 15:31, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Die Hard 2[edit]

What's wrong with linking to a blog? That was a perfect link. Ryanbstevens (talk) 20:50, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Because it just drives traffic to that blog wihtout any real reason why to do so. The actual link itself is the best source to use. hbdragon88 (talk) 23:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

You are quite foolish[edit]

You again defied the rules by using improper consensus. Those statements of redirecting the article were based on a stub version of the article; had they seen my version of it, they would not have proposed it as such, thus you are still wrong. For that matter, those two people are not editors of the article per se and not enough for consensus. You have 24 hours to undo it or I will seek an administrator and have you banned from editing articles as you are unqualified to do so based on your inability to properly adhere to Wikipedia's policies the way they were meant to be applied, not the way you see fit to apply them. The source I provided was for the Skype bit, for which it is absolutely a valid source, since it's victims accounts of being harassed by said numbers. I don't know about you, but I work for a living and edit articles in my spare time and when I do, I follow Wikipedia guidelines as per the nature of the law, rather than spin my own misinterpretation thereof as you have. Noone else has objected to the article in its most recent state other than you and yet you feel as though you have complete authority over the article and your opinion reigns supreme above all others', which is not the case. I cited you on at least 5 policy violations which you selectively ignored as you had done up until that point. I'm sorry, but you have repeatedly disregarded the true nature of the rules you try to uphold and in doing so have violated them and many other areas also. I do intend on seeking administrative help if you fail to undo the move as you have no right to act upon the article or any article the way you have. -KirkCliff2 (talk) 03:48, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm... looking through your talk page, you have a repeated history of bad faith edits and causing conflicts and thus you should, in fact, be banned from editing altogether. KirkCliff2 (talk) 04:13, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

I'm back and I see that you continue to irk people with bad faith edits. For the record, you are still wikilawyering and for that matter, your justification doesn't hold up. Your philosophy is that any article that does not cite sources is immediately to be deleted. This is just articles of its kind; you need to look at the bigger picture and learn to try and contribute rather than detract from the quality of the encyclopedia at large. There is a due process in Wikipedia and if you truly feel that the article is not worthy of remaining, you can address it at AFD or RFD and get a true consensus at one or the other (not both) and honor the final decision made. Until then, you are but one editor among many and are not the sole decider of the article's content nor will you be and as such, must respect the community-based rules of Wikipedia and its editors as a whole and not in part based on your preferences. Good faith editing and acting in consensus won't get you banned from editing articles, blatant wikilawyering, however will. KirkCliff2 (talk) 03:03, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Dick Grayson is relevent.[edit]

Dick Grayson is relevant, and is the Batman. Keep removing him and I will keep adding it back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 02:00, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

The warning states that we cover the Batman most well known in the public consciousness. Dick Grayson has been the Batman for less than a year. hbdragon88 (talk) 02:22, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Let's Talk.[edit]

I am confuse about what is going on. Could you please explain in more detail? Thanks alot.

My freedom of speech.[edit]

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you delete or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did to GSG 9, you will be blocked from editing. hbdragon88 (talk) 03:40, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Retrieved from ""

What you see as disruptive edits is my freedom of speech. Please read before you response. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bendallf (talkcontribs) 04:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

There is no right to freedom of expression on Wikipedia. Daniel (talk) 04:47, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Freedom of speech protects you from the government intervening, i.e. shutting your press down or etc. That doesn't apply here, on a server owned by a private organization. You're beholden to our rules, and our rule is that you cannot blank large portions of the articles without a good reason. hbdragon88 (talk) 04:49, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Soundboard Prank Call[edit]

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What are these anchors you added to the Saw page? And I read the #images thing you linked to, I see nothing there that says the images can't be small and less obtrusive, linking to a larger version.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 02:35, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

The anchors create # so that you can still access them for multiple names. For instance, nobody will ever link to List of Saw characters#The Jigsaw Killer (John Kramer), but they may link to #Jigsaw Killer or #John Kramer and the anchor would still work.
Although the MOS doesn't explicitly say so, I believe adding a hard px will override a user's preference, and I was told some time ago that you want to let them choose. There is no compelling reason for why a hard px is needed in this case, and the default (180px) is bigger than the 100px that was in the article. hbdragon88 (talk) 02:48, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Fast & Furious Characters[edit]

Why do you keep changing the pages that people have worked hard to build?! We want to know about the characters not about the freakin' movie. If people wanted to know about the damn movie they would click one of the many links within the character pages to take them to the movie page, or better yet, they would SEARCH FOR THE MOVIE ITSELF.

Why do you keep changing the fucking pages.

Please see WP:FICT and WP:NOT#PLOT: plot-only articles are highly frowned upon, due to copyright reasons. Fictional character articles require setions such as real-life development, reception, sales, marketing, etc.; see Jason Voorhes, Batman, and Cortana for examples of good articles on fictional characters. hbdragon88 (talk) 07:00, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
There's still information that can be put on the individual character pages, such as a list of each of their cars in the different movies, amongst other things.
Instead of just redirecting to the movie page. As long as you leave a disclaimer at the top of the page indicating that all the information listed is gathered from the books, movies and other publications there's no problem.
There's enough information on Toretto and O'Conner to justify having their own pages. They may not be as in-depth as Batman, but they also haven't been around for 40 years.
At the very least leave the Toretto and O'Conner pages up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:29, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
There's no page for Voorhees. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:37, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, that should be Jason Voorhees. Well, there is a List of characters in The Fast and the Furious film series; I don't think this existed when I redirected the articles, but we can re-redirect to those articles now, if you desire to.
As for the other's not the disclaimer that matters. It's the out of universe info. Wikipedia has adopted standard of striving for more than just a plot article, and I've seen hundreds of articles merged as a result (such as that of the Tekken series, Final Fantasy, etc. to name a few). And if most of the Tekken and other series characters don't get their own separate articles...neither should The Fast and the Furious chracters. hbdragon88 (talk) 04:43, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't know why you (anyone) would merge some of the final fantasy characters or tekken characters pages into one. Long standing characters like those, there's enough information out there on them that you could easily have a valid page for them.

As for that list of F&F Characters, even if you took the information that was originally on each characters individual pages and put it all there on one huge page, that would be better than nothing. Is that at least do-able? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:44, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, as I said before, it's all plot summary and not what Wikipedia is about. You want to take the 14K of Dominic Toretto article and put it on the kIst article? I would say heck no. You can summarize Dominic's role in the films to a couple paragraphs. More than that and you're just detailing every incident in the film, which we don't do; we provide an overview, a summary, of the characters (see Batman, Jason, Freddy, etc. for examples as to how plot summary is handled). The article as it stood just basically repeated the plot summary of the film articles. hbdragon88 (talk) 05:49, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Well the most important pieces are the list of cars (preferably with images/stills) and the bits that aren't a rehash of the plot. Can the OP be asked to take out the rehash? Or is that still not enough? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:05, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I don't get what you're talking about. Aren't YOU the OP? Also, car lists (which have been on the film articles) have been removed for being indiscriminate information. I can write out or rewrite a short plot summary for Dominic Toretto. But, as I said before, I don't want all 14K of that article to be in the List article. hbdragon88 (talk) 18:04, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Characters of View Askewniverse[edit]

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Concerning my iPhone Jailbreak pic, isn't that fair use? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kkraemer (talkcontribs) 22:18, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Canon EF 24-70mm lens[edit]

Hi there - I changed part of the 24-70 article back to saying that the 24-105 is its nearest competitor because it would be hard to say it's not. The 24-105 covers the same focal length, is in the same price range, and has the advantage of IS. They're very similar lenses and calling one the closest competitor of the other is pretty reasonable. Consumers often have a tough time deciding between the two. Let me know what you think. Nrbelex (talk) 22:31, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

I have no further objections...good rationale for why you think the 24-105 is a competitor. hbdragon88 (talk) 01:48, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Joey Lauren Adams[edit]

What is your source for that 1968 is the correct date? Do you have a birth certificate or similar? I searched the Google before I changed and I found plenty more sources which gave 1971 than 1968. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karbuncle (talkcontribs) 04:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

In fact, even one of the External Links is to a page that gives 1971. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karbuncle (talkcontribs) 04:32, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

OK, I found a source – an article that listed Adams as a 31-year-old actress in 1999. I'll put it in the article. hbdragon88 (talk) 04:58, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Well, the same article or if it's another one (at least it's written by the same journalist) says she was 29 in 1999 which is linked right under your change. However, I cant't see that you have provided a link to the article that listes her as 31. Karbuncle (talk) 14:27, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

(I´ve written this in my talk page too, didn't knew if you could see it there. Also. Did I do it the right way with the sign-thing?)

Service awards proposal[edit]

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Diana Wikipedia Page[edit]

Hey there, listen I am one of Diana's biggest fans and I am in no way trying to spam her wikipedia page. I own both books I have sourced so I'm sure the information is correct. I am in no way trying to send out an unbalanced image of Diana, I adore her I would never do that but all I'm trying to show is that opinions have changed around the world since her death I am not trying in any way to say she was a bad person but merely a human being with faults and it's not sensationalism it's just the truth, we all have faults.

The version you're pushing is really not that good. You're making a lot of general, sweeping claims about her, very strong language such as "time and time again" and that opinions around the world are horrible. In any case, I've started a talk page discussion and invite you to chime in on your opinion. hbdragon88 (talk) 17:10, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Okay thanks, I replied to that discussion page, maybe we can work out a compromise a version we both agree with. Anyways let me know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:42, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

LA Metro redirect[edit]

Hi Hbdragon88, how ya doing? I'm wondering what led you to think most people would be looking for Metro Rail instead of Metro the whole system or buses? Although it may be true most ppl prob are not looking for the agency, the system info along with the bus system are on the LA MTA page. Also the agency has officially branded itself "Metro" which is used for all press releases on the system. It's probably better to redirect to the LA Metro page instead. What say you? I'll also add this discussion on Metro's talk page. --Mistakefinder (talk) 10:36, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Golden Raspberry Award[edit]

I worked quite hard to create an entire list page for this. Please see List of people who accepted Golden Raspberry Awards. Cirt (talk) 05:23, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

My apologies. I just assumed that it had been deleted during the content purge (down from 35K to 9K). hbdragon88 (talk) 05:25, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Yes, I removed a lot of unsourced stuff. I did quite a bit of work to make sure that every single sentence on that page is sourced. :) I hope you like the list page, List of people who accepted Golden Raspberry Awards? Some editors in the past have said that no celebrities like their awards, but clearly from this sourced page, that is not the case! Cheers, Cirt (talk) 05:26, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

New userbox![edit]

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Actually, the development is called "CityCentre" and not "CityCentre Houston". The article should be moved to "CityCentre". Postoak (talk) 04:40, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

Moved it. Thank you. hbdragon88 (talk) 05:52, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! Postoak (talk) 14:04, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
Here's a few, hope this helps. Thanks [9] [10] [11] [12] Postoak (talk) 22:22, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Exxon Valdez oil spill[edit]

Hbdragon88, I just wanted to bring your attention to this edit. [13].

DISPLAYTITLE as Wikipedia:Page name#Changing_the_displayed_title says: ... the use of display title for italicizing the article titles is only acceptable for articles on organisms using scientific names)

There was a reason cited for removing the display title. I personally couldn't care less what the title looks like, but I see an edit war brewing and wanted to make sure you had all the facts. Take care. Aalox (talk) 04:02, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. I have self-reverted. hbdragon88 (talk) 05:38, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

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You have been around awhile so may not need the assistance but I saw your edit summary here. I hate the term on Wikipedia usually and love WP:CLAIM. I suppose it could be argued that since there was a legal case that it could be used but said works best. Cptnono (talk) 04:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Alexa Chung source query[edit]

Back in October 2008 you asked a question here. If you're still interested, I've left an answer. --DavidCane (talk) 00:50, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Romanization for words of English origin[edit]

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Happy Birthday[edit]

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Re: Movie disambiguation[edit]

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Libya Bombing Raid[edit]

Hello Hbdragon88, I see there is a lot of discussion these days about the name of this incident and I'm starting to scratch my head about the controversy about it's name. Of course the bombing raid happened on April 15, 1986 and I believe it was named by the Air Force "Operation El Dorado Canyon" but most folks who knew about the raid on the news know it as April 15, 1986 bombing raid but the military only knows of it as "Operation El Dorado Canyon." I believe that the common person is not going to know the raid by it's code name. It's good that the top of the page sees it as Operation El Dorado Canyon and can easily be linked together in this way. I believe there should be a date affixed to this bombing only for reference purposes. When you read Col. Robert Venkus who was the wing commander for the Air Force book "Raid On Gaddaffi" it appears that title would represent that we were going to bomb a person or leader of a country and not so much the country of site. It all gets very cloudy and a little confusing if your looking for a name that best fits the description of the event. I met with Col. Venkus in the summer of 1998 in Baltimore for lunch and he bought by the way, Blue Crab Cakes. I think Col. Venkus would approve the 1996 Libya Bombing Raid with a top page notation of the military code name of that bombing raid. I believe there should be a date affixed to the event just for reference. Well that's my 2 cents worth!Qui Tam Relator (talk) 20:44, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

RE: Nate Dogg[edit]

Three letters B. L. P.. Tbhotch* ۩ ۞ 06:13, 16 March 2011 (UTC)



I intended to create a page for X3M - the swedish floorball brand. I saw that you have previosly deleted a X3M entry:

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21:12, 4 December 2008 Hbdragon88 (talk | contribs) deleted "X3M" ‎ (A7 (bio): No indication that the article may meet guidelines for inclusion)

Is it OK for me to proceed with an entry or how should I proceed?


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Boiler Room Girls[edit]

Thanks for your note on my talk page. The Boiler Room Girls article had slipped off my radar. I appreciate your suggestion to merge it to Robert F. Kennedy presidential campaign, 1968 but I'm not sure where in the article it would go. On review I am tending to change my mind about merging it at all. Google News Archive] suggests the group is notable, and the article is viewed 100 or more times per day suggesting that it is useful. Maybe it just needs some sourcing. What do you think? --MelanieN (talk) 13:49, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Maybe I'll dig up some sources and improve on the article, then. Thanks for getting back to me on the issue. hbdragon88 (talk) 21:31, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: Webring[edit]

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Reno air crash article deletion[edit]


I am brand new (less than five minutes) as a user, and really only created an account to respond to your suggested deletion of the article on yesterday's Reno air crash. While I understand your position as stated, I just wanted to let you know that some of us aren't rubber-neckers looking for gruesome details; we're actually looking for information while trying to determine if family members were present at the event. In fact, in our household, any watching of the video, or reading any news accounts is off limits to all except me, as the mention of body parts flying on impact is more than I believe my partner wants to read while searching for news of her brother who has attended this show religiously since the 70's. Instead, I am out this morning, hoping for news of where to find a list of casualties. (Yes, we've already called the emergency number, and the kind folks of Washoe County have taken down our contact information should anyone matching the description given be found injured or deceased.)

One other point: You mention that this crash isn't any more significant than any other crash where pilots have lost their lives flying in air shows. I am not sure I agree. While I have not spent any time on the history of air show crashes, your discussion of past crashes only spoke of pilots. This is a mass casualty incident where many people are seriously injured, and I think that may be the difference as to why it warrants an article. Not that any life is any more valuable than any other, but the impact of the accident, much like the actual debris from the crash, is spread much wider, and it affects that many more people.

I thank you for not being too hard on this newbie in your reply...

Respectfully, Cat — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cattycorner (talkcontribs) 12:53, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

I just learned I need to sign... Cattycorner (talk) 13:02, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

One of your edits?[edit]

In reference to your comment in

1.Profanity? Sigh. 2. Now that they have been found guilty in a court of law, and Hayes is awaiting execution by lethal injection, surely you can agree that this case (about which quite a bit of legislation was generated) might be re-introduced? To quote fron the wiki page about them: Steven J. Hayes (born May 30, 1963, in Homestead, Florida)[22] was found guilty on 16 out of 17 counts related to the home invasion murders on October 5, 2010.[24] On November 8, 2010, the jury returned with a recommendation for Hayes to be executed by the State.[25] He was formally sentenced to death by Superior Court Judge Jon C. Blue on December 2, 2010.[26]

Hayes is an inmate of the Connecticut Department of Correction. His criminal history shows him sentenced for his first offense at the age of 16.[22] He is incarcerated in the Northern Correctional Institution,[27] which houses the state's death row for men,[28] in Somers. The method of execution currently employed by Connecticut is lethal injection,[29] and the state execution chamber is located in the Northern Correctional Institution in Somers.[30]

Joshua A. Komisarjevsky (born August 10, 1980) was Hayes' accomplice in the home invasion and murder of William Petit's wife and two daughters. He was born in 1980 and adopted[31] by the son of playwright Theodore Komisarjevsky. Komisarjevsky remained incarcerated at the Walker Reception Center[32] in lieu of a $15 million bond[33] until his conviction. His trial began September 19, 2011 and on October 13, 2011 Komisarjevsky was convicted on all 17 counts.[34] Komisarjevsky is formally remanded in custody pending adjudication of sentence.[35] — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:53, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: I had quoted your reply, but had to delete it because the flame bot wouldn't let me post with it in place. Once I deleted it, it allowed this post. Make of that what you will. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:59, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

LA-area Meetup: Saturday, November 19[edit]

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MSU Interview[edit]

Dear Hbdragon88,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the community HERE, were it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

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Hello, I am an editor on the wiki Bulbapedia. Bulbapedia is one of the largest, and more specifically, highest quality user based wiki's on the net. I am baffled as to why Wikipedia has neglected to have an article for it, as it also uses Bulbapedia in many references. Furthermore, Bulbapedia can't even be on the List of wikis? Why is it that this wiki is so disliked? --×Rsrdaman× 06:51, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

The whole history of the article can be found here Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bulbapedia. The last DRV in 2011 said that there is no prejudice to creating a well-sourced draft in userspace before submitting it to DRV again. hbdragon88 (talk) 08:37, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Yes, I have read that. But it was from 2005 when the wiki was just starting up. Now its seven years later, and nothing has been done. I will make a draft in my userspace for it though. I hope you find it good enough. --×Rsrdaman× 17:13, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Im done, how is it now? --×Rsrdaman× 22:22, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
It doesn't have a single third-party, reliable source that discusses its impact on the real world. hbdragon88 (talk) 22:53, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Oh, I guess Alexa Internet isnt reliable, or shows its impact on the world. --×Rsrdaman× 01:05, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Alexa rank itself doesn't do a single thing. Take a look at articles such as 4chan or Encyclopedia Dramatica for examples good Internet site articles that show impact, such as being blocked, derided, real-world commentary, etc. hbdragon88 (talk) 10:15, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
Ok then, I not going to keep fighting you because I know this wont end. I don't know why Wikipedia neglects to make an article for them, but whatever. If you choose to have less content, that's your problem. --×Rsrdaman× 03:28, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

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San Diego Comic-Con International meetup proposal[edit]

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2013 Wikinic[edit]

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3DS XL[edit]

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About your question at WP:Village pump (technical)/Archive 119#Tylenol: I replied there but didn't hear back. A good workaround is (instead of Advertisements) ==Advertising==, which is not blocked by the EasyList filter used in Ad Block Plus. --Lexein (talk) 19:21, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that but didn't respond. Thanks for fixing the problem. hbdragon88 (talk) 19:41, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

March 9 edit-a-thon at MOCA in downtown LA[edit]

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May 10 Asian Pacific American edit-a-thon in LA[edit]

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L.A. events on June 21 and July 6[edit]

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SoCal edit-a-thons on October 21 and 25[edit]

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L.A. event on November 11, and a new Facebook group[edit]

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L.A. event on November 11 CANCELED[edit]

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Facts are tabloid like?[edit]

First, that was a little insulting but thanks for the insensitivity. If I had been asking for something absurd or unreasonable I could understand the reaction. Second, no...I really fail to see how adding the encyclopedic information, clarifying that the "Native Hawaiians" were defending their ruler from being kidnapped and was the actual cause of the explorer's death...would possibly be considered "tabloid" like. The current wording ignored why Cook was killed and was written to sound as if the Hawaiians attacked for no reason and ignores many articles we have that are well researched and sourced. I will not bother you further on this. Clearly we have differing opinions that are so far apart it would eventually lead to a conflict, but I could not let that go un-replied, but refused to use the main page talk page to address that. My apologies for the interruption.--Mark Miller (talk) 16:09, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Umm...I think you totally missed my point. I agree with you on that point, that the hook was misleading, but that if you proposed a new hook right away, someone (like me, perhaps, since I am an administrator) would have been able to change it immediately. That was part of my little "joke," about the Lindbergh kidnapping, about a hook that totally missed the point. I did not mean to insult your research or insult history, and I'm sorry if it came across like that. hbdragon88 (talk) 19:00, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
OK, I understand. I suppose the misunderstanding came because it was an actual suggestion another editor supported but since you didn't make the change at the original request, I took that to mean you didn't find it worth updating. Thanks for the clarification. If that was you that made the change, thank you very much.--Mark Miller (talk) 22:14, 14 February 2015 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Power Rangers character[edit]

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Stale? Just consider it a junior version of the WABAC machine.

Actually, this problem is endemic to ITN because so many nominated items get delayed or rejected due to (perceived) faults in the target articles. A recent case in point was the Greek referendum. Another was the Zhou Yongkang sentencing, subsequently discussed here.. Sca (talk) 21:00, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

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InterDigital company page[edit]

You made a mass rollback to a previous (and highly accusatory and poorly referenced) version of the page about our company because some more even-handed language was unreferenced. I have no objection to that: we should have referenced things better. I'll be working with a colleague of mine to expand and update the page, replace accusatory language with even-handed language (with proper references throughout), and just generally improve it. I'll invite you or any other admin to take a look at it once we're done, and I'd be happy to discuss any changes on my talk page. We're a public company, and have a duty to our employees, shareholders and the general public to have accurate information out there, and to do it in a transparent way. Thanks, and I look forward to (I hope) a pleasant interaction!

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Vandewille Thank you for your talk page message. I would like to ask you to read WP:COI and make all suggested improvements on the talk page. hbdragon88 (talk) 19:52, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
I'll make sure we do that, thanks. How would the edits find their way onto the page itself? I'd prefer to just handle things transparently rather than hire some firm to do things.Vandewille (talk) 20:06, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
An editor will check the edits and integrate them into the article. I guess I could be the liaison for this. hbdragon88 (talk) 20:12, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, I appreciate it. I've made a first comment on the Talk page. I'm committed to doing this the right way. I can't avoid a COI here, but I also can't have someone randomly posting poorly-referenced one-sided accusations.Vandewille (talk) 20:32, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Hbdragon88, I've proceeded to include some edits and requests onto the Talk page of InterDigital, as you requested. Could I trouble you to have a look, or act as facilitator for another admin taking a look and considering the changes proposed? I maintained strict neutrality of tone, and included full external references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vandewille (talkcontribs) 23:03, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

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Other concepts in the Ender's Game series listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


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Extended confirmed protection[edit]

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Extended confirmed protection (also known as "30/500 protection") is a new level of page protection that only allows edits from accounts at least 30 days old and with 500 edits. The automatically assigned "extended confirmed" user right was created for this purpose. The protection level was created following this community discussion with the primary intention of enforcing various arbitration remedies that prohibited editors under the "30 days/500 edits" threshold to edit certain topic areas.

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Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins[edit]


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A new user right for New Page Patrollers[edit]

Hi Hbdragon88.

A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

It is anticipated that this user right will significantly reduce the work load of admins who patrol the performance of the patrollers. However,due to the complexity of the rollout, some rights may have been accorded that may later need to be withdrawn, so some help will still be needed to some extent when discovering wrongly applied deletion tags or inappropriate pages that escape the attention of less experienced reviewers, and above all, hasty and bitey tagging for maintenance. User warnings are available here but very often a friendly custom message works best.

If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins).MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

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Tetris – From Russia With Love listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


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Los Santos, San Andreas listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]


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Pac-Man Arrangement merge proposal[edit]

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