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Heavy Rain

i undid it to add the info back due to the IP trying to remove spoilers. i was going to add that content aswell but i had to get off. right now the IP did the same thing.Bread Ninja (talk) 00:32, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, that edit looks reasonable. I haven't played the game so I do not know exactly what the endings are. But I'm pretty sure there are several characters who may end up being the killer.  H3llkn0wz  ▎talk  01:08, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
Silly me, confused this with another game. I've read the info now. The killer is always the same, it is the other character fate that is decided by the player's actions. H3llkn0wz  ▎talk  01:25, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Leaving the plot open without no ending doesn't read well - it doesn't given an intent of where the plot resolves. At least one ending to outline that rescue is attempted and the killer shows himself to a final confrontation is necessary for that completeness. --MASEM (t) 01:42, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

I am pro including ending. But why did you choose this particular ending? As I already noted, this looks very WP:UNDUE. Is it possible to remove information relating to only that ending and have a broader overview? As I have not played the game, I cannot do this myself.  H3llkn0wz  ▎talk  01:50, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

Adam Kontras

Wanted to thank you for taking the time to participate in that discussion. I think it's fascinating no matter the subject, and you are one of the few that were clearly focusing on the guidelines without bias. Hopefully you saw that I was trying to stay impartial too no matter how much it means to me personally. More than anything I want to see a fair even hand across all the pages. Adam4tvs (talk) 01:30, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your support in editing my article. I think it really helped to sway the admin in the AFD argument. Wikipedia has been a valuable resource for the establishment of my career, and has led to interviews and some notoriety. Once again, I thank you so much for your help. Adam kontras (talk) 19:37, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

List of video game publishers

H3llkn0wz, I have to say I love all of your recent edits. You have improved the video game industry articles with sources and information more than any single user in recent history. That being said, I don't understand your recent edit to the List of video game publishers. You removed some flagicons that were justified (such as the one for Accolade for whom I used to work, in California). Why did you remove so many when their locations were well established and referenced? Is there some unwritten criteria for use of the flag icons? Thanks! — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 16:03, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello, Frecklefoot. I removed all defunct companies because I will make a proper list for them (the ones I removed from current lists and the ones in the defunct category). It was my understanding that these lists serve the purpose of identifying active game developers/publishers. Then for bankrupt/merged/closed/bought/sold companies the readers may visit the appropriate list. Currently the list is not cleaned up and still has companies that are not active.
Since I am yet to go one-by-one through the list and articles adding the missing information; you just got EXTREMELY lucky that I accidentally removed the flag from Accolade. Having 150 entries across 3 lists really screws your perception of data. Sorry :)  H3llkn0wz  ▎talk  16:14, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
Oh, yes. And since List of video game publishers never had any flags and locations in the first place, that may be the reason why. ^^  H3llkn0wz  ▎talk  16:17, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

I don't exactly follow your logic ("since the list never had any flags and locations in the first place, that may be the reason why"). The reason why what? But, nevermind.

The list was for publishers past and present, but you removed the "past" qualifier in one of your edits. I don't know if that's a good idea, since it would be easier to find a publisher in one list and then find out it's defunct rather than have to know before-hand whether it's defunct or not. I'd prefer to keep all these publishers in one list. I'm continuing this discussion on the list's Talk page so other editors can chime in. Cheers! — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 18:15, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry again for my mistake, was not in any way directed at you. I am meaning to fill the lists with all the missing data anyhow. What I meant is: because the list had no entries in the beginning I did not notice that I accidentally removed the flag; it just looked like one of the original entries missing the info. It was one in a thousand chance of this being a company you are personally familiar with.
Looking forward to talk page. Personally, I have no real bias keeping the lists with or without defunct companies. H3llkn0wz  ▎talk  18:27, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
The list needs to be sorted alphabetically, there is a lot of companies that are out of order. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 08:18, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
Yes, thank you, this is known. It is a work in progress. H3llkn0wz  ▎talk  11:23, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Atari corrections

Just wanted you to know I fleshed out/corrected some of the Atari related material you had in List of video game publishers and elsewhere. I realize the more modern history of the brand is very tangled, and am happy to answer any questions you may have regarding it. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 17:30, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I saw that, thanks! I was going through articles in a hurry and two 2003 in a row seemed like a typo.  H3llkn0wz  ▎talk  17:46, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Burnout Paradise assessment

I have replied to your comments at Talk:Burnout Paradise#Assessment --Teancum (talk) 18:19, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of characters in the Uncharted series/archive1

Hi, and thanks for your very detailed comments at the above FLC. When you get a chance, can you revisit it to ensure your comments have been addressed and if possible declare whether you support, oppose, or are neutral toward the list's promotion to FL status? Thanks, Dabomb87 (talk) 23:20, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Quite so, I'd like to reiterate Dabomb's thanks for your incredible review. One final favour, if you'd be so kind, could you cap any comments which you now believe to have been resolved as this particular FLC has now become rather large and we've found, in the past, that extensive reviews tend to put off other reviewers. Once again, thanks, all the best, The Rambling Man (talk) 20:17, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

A barnstar for your work

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Awarded to you for the incredible scrutinizing comments you made at Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of characters in the Uncharted series/archive1; you went above and beyond as a reviewer, and the article is now a FL in large part due to your discernment. かんぱい! Scapler (talk) 04:33, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Thank you :)  Hellknowz  ▎talk  11:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Video Game page

Had to revert your edits to "glitches" to revert all the changes to the opening paragraph. There's been several edits by anonymous IP's today trying to add loosely sourced material on more philosophical ideas regarding video games (see the talk page over there for a discussion on one). Go a head and re-add the edits to glitches if you want. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 03:52, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Template:Start date and age/doc

thanks for that. I meant to return and check what part of the documentation improvement I needed to salvage, but thought I'd get an explanation on the talk page first.
Cheers, Amalthea 15:06, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


This is exactly why I nominated it AFD. But I think it should be fine if we keep an close eye on it this time. I just put it on a watchlist since I realized you did it. But now you notice the frustration that I had on the former article. And it's probably not going to chance but at least we have restrictions on what goes there now. No source means no go.

P.S. If you noticed my hidden comment on top of the editing section (which is gone now) I did the cursive thing on purpose. I thought it was silly that it did that. Jhenderson777 (talk) 19:45, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: I understand you. I just wasn't that familiar with WikiEd so I don't think I ever used it. The cursive thing is gone though. Jhenderson777 (talk)

Henrik's google search

You appear to have User:Henrik/sandbox/google-search in your monobook.js. It now seems to work in the new Vector skin, should that be of use to you. If so, load the updated code from Henrik's page into your vector.js page, clear the cache, and you should be away. --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:46, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Recent awesomeness

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Thank you! —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 12:14, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

How would you like to be in charge of awards?

If you'd like to be in charge of awards for the July 2010 GOCE Backlog Elimination Drive, I'll make the announcement. You're a good graphic artist. I'll be happy to give you a run-down on the current award structure, too, if you need it. Accepting means you commit to handling creation of awards, until at least August 1. Diannaa is the communications deputy and she does the awarding, but I'm sure she'd like help with that. I usually give out the top awards, but it doesn't have to stay that way. Personally I'd love to see a redesign of the Gold Star award, which I think is ugly by today's photoshop standards, but that's just me. ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 16:27, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I cannot commit to anything at this time. I have a big deadline in September for a major project and I'm leaving country for unspecified amount of time. So any commitments I make, as much as I would uphold them, I may not have time for. I'm happy to design some stuff when I get free time and work with suggested ideas/concepts, perhaps maintain a list or two. But none of this I can promise on a permanent basis. Perhaps for future following drives. I can look into the gold design award, though it looks complex :) I'm not actually a designer, I'm a programmer... with too much free time. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:44, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


The second reference says that Plankton is an arch rival of Mr. Krabs. Which is something I know since I watch the show. I do feel that that is one of the most notable rivalries for cartoon tv series so I would leave that. Now as for Squidward the reference says that Squillium is Squidward's nemesis that he is jealous of. I remember from wathing the cartoon that Squidward said that Squillium is an class arch rival of Squidward but I don't feel it is as notable or important because it's basically an competitive rivalry. An who's better than who type. Something that can exist in the real world. Sometimes Spongebob even fits the qualification of being Squidward's archenemy. Jhenderson777 (talk) 18:37, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Archenemy discussion again!

Hey is it just me or is the source for the archenemy of Woody Woodpecker doesn't back up what's down there. Jhenderson777 (talk) 21:09, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Fixed. To be honest, I never checked any of the references ^^ —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 21:40, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Re: Sonic and the Secret Rings FAC

I thought the decision was a little premature too. The FAC directors seem to be getting a little more impatient; the Secret Rings FAC was only like a couple weeks old but it was in "Older nominations". I don't remember there even being an "Older nominations" until recently. They might have just decided to nix it because there wasn't really any clear support or opposition; Jinnai opposed, but not until leaving many comments and me fixing them, and even then it was only a relatively discreet "Oppose". About the article, anyway, I'm going to pursue a copyeditor and then nominate it again. I'm not that discouraged, since I've only had one article that passed FAC on the first try. Tezero (talk) 18:21, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate that. I'll do it soon. Tezero (talk) 20:10, 30 June 2010 (UTC)


Thank you very much for signing up for the July Backlog Elimination Drive! The copyedit backlog stretches back two and a half years, all the way back to the beginning of 2008! We're really going to need all the help we can muster to get it down to a manageable number. We've ambitiously set a goal of clearing all of 2008 from the backlog this month. In order to do that, we're going to need more participants. Is there anyone that you can invite or ask to participate with you? If so, we're offering an award to the person who brings in the most referrals. Just notify ɳorɑfʈ Talk! or Diannaa TALK of who your referrals are. Once again, thanks for your support! --Diannaa TALK 01:04, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


Your article is going along fine. Let me know when you need advice. Talk/♥фĩłдωəß♥\Work 20:00, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Sure thing, I'm moving between houses back and forth and haven't got any books from the library so it's going slow. But I'll let you know when I get proper content together.—  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 21:27, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Watermark removal

Hi! My compliments for the good job of watermark removal you did with File:Bangladeshi.jpg! I just wanted to remind you to also replace the {{watermark}} tag with either commons:Template:attribution metadata from licensed image or commons:Template:metadata from image, whichever is appropriate. Thanks. —Quibik (talk) 09:40, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh! I didn't even notice the tags were there, corrected other image descriptions as well. Thanks!—  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:07, 9 July 2010 (UTC)


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Thank you! Though if I am replacing the original file, it doesn't matter :P—  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 05:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Your attention needed

Please read this section.

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Please do that --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 04:58, 31 July 2010 (UTC)


Sometimes so-called weasel words can be very appropriate. According to at least one source [1], "there is no universally accepted definition of gameplay". As you know, the meaning of the term can change from "expert" to "expert" and I think that the article should reflect that fact. — Rankiri (talk) 22:18, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

--Joseluisgonsan (talk) 09:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC) Thank you for everything. Is ot possible to create a new secction only for playability? I think there a lo of books about player experience playability, playability evaluation and so on, for example, now, in gameplay section, there is more info abou playability that gameplay

thank you!

It would be nice if you referenced every paragraph with the appropriate reference for the books/papers you are using. I assume those are the ones you cited at the opening paragraphs?
Playability used to be its own article before it was merged with Gameplay, because there was almost no content there. The issue is not if there are books, but if there is material placed in Wikipedia. In principle, there are a lot of books, but no one had added any info before now. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)


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GOCE template

It's all done now. :) Ocean Shores (Formerly TEK) 17:13, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

As if that page is not on my watch-list :P —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:17, 9 August 2010 (UTC)


You recently !voted on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Microformats. This is a courtesy note to let you now that I have now posted, as promised, my view there, and to ask you revisit the debate. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 15:20, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


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Well, thank you... again :) —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:58, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Becauz you hadn't put on your awards page. --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 01:18, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Ah, I was placing one per type. Added now :) —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 01:29, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


You are very right the simplicity and user-friendliness can be the hallmarks of the idea or its Achilles' heel. Before I started coding anything, I started writing the spec for the API and I was wondering if you have the time to help write it too? d'oh! talk 16:27, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Sure, I can look over the spec/design/command syntax. Just gimme a link and a place to comment. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:53, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Here you go User:D'oh!/sandbox8. If you got comments or questions post them up on my talk page. Thanks. :) d'oh! talk 17:01, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Bot at the TB article

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Thanks! —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:40, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
Huge thanks from me too. I smile when I see your bot's work. -- Quiddity (talk) 04:28, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:29, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

SS Carl D. Bradley

Dead link. Any ideas on where (and if) there might be an archived copy. I think I actually have an electronic copy somewhere, but there are obvious copyright issues. Best regards. 7&6=thirteen (talk) 14:02, 19 October 2010 (UTC) Stan

Hi. I'm afraid I have no idea, neither Wayback nor Webcite have it archived. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 14:09, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

Flip's Twisted World

Hey, thanks for your help with the fixing Flip's Twisted World article. After I originally nominated it for deletion, you really came through on a search for good reliable sources, and I think between the two of us we rewrote the crap out of that article and made it something less promotional and a lot more Wikipedic. I expect it will be kept without any further debate.  :) -Addionne (talk) 01:23, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Village pump discussion mentioning your bot

You should probably comment at WP:VPP#Should bots that flag references with deadlinks recognize references that link to an archived version?.

If you want to add Webcite support, it's pretty simple as they have an XML-based API. Docs are at [2]; if you speak Perl, you can look at User:AnomieBOT/source/tasks/ too (search for the comment "check webcite too"). But watch out for their error messages (e.g. [3]), they don't encode ampersands correctly which may blow up your XML parser. Anomie 17:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks! I've meaning to do WebCite for a while now, never got around to it. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:22, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

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At Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval/SreeBot, you mentioned that this bot should only run on my userspace. I am a newbie to bots. Can you please help me understand how to run the pywiki interwiki script only in userspace? --Sreejith K (talk) 19:22, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Sorry, I am not familiar with pywikipedia to help you technical questions. Try m:pywikipediabot. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 21:49, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Should not remove Bold text within Bullets

Should not remove bold from Bullets. Bold text within bullets can provides further clarity and summarization. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:08, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Please see MOS:BOLD for how boldface is used within Wikipedia articles. It should not be used for emphasis. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 14:15, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

They were not being used for emphasis in bullets they were being used to summarize bullets further. Highlighting key words just as italics or underlining can be used. But italics are harder to read quickly and underlines are confusing to some web users. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:02, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Do a usability study on italic use and you will find that it does not display well and is harder to read on most computer screens over the use of regular text. In web design use of italic text is discouraged. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:11, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

This is not a principle I invented, it is the Wikipedia Manual of Style to which almost all articles have to adhere. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:37, 2 December 2010 (UTC)


Can you fix the mess that IP editors have done with the archenemy article. Thank you. − Jhenderson 777 16:58, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

It's growing and growing with non-notable entries every day. I gave up following it closely a while ago. We really need to establish some way of trimming these down. You were the only one to respond to talk page message. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:11, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
I agree with you. It's growing too rapidly and I am not really sure that the sources are reliable. But the main reason why I called to help is that the notes and external links are being hidden and I can't figure out the source of the problem or how it happen. I also think the page might needs to protected from IP editors they seem to be the main problem. − Jhenderson 777 18:26, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Fixed it. I don't think protection is warranted as these are separate editors who do not vandalise, rather add questionable content, which in itself is not a reason to semi-prot. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:32, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
That is true. It's just that there doesn't need to be any more additions. But yeah I am sure there is no good enough reason to warrant semi-protection. − Jhenderson 777 18:36, 3 December 2010 (UTC)


I would like more opinions on this AFD if you don't mind. − Jhenderson 777 01:01, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks for invite, but I will perhaps refrain from commenting on this due to canvassish nature of the request. While I don't doubt you invited me in good faith, in my previous participation on a "list of fictional X" AfD, I voted delete, same as you. This can be seen as you seeking someone of alike opinion for this AfD. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:28, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:BugFixed

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On behalf of the United Wikiprojects, I give you this barnstar in token of our gratitude for your efforts to make a new Article Alerts bot. It has been sorely missed, and will be welcomed back with great joy. Arlen22 (talk) 00:30, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
Thank you! Hopefully I can get it running soon(ish) —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:28, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Re-thanks. Can I though split it into 2 or keep 1 of the sides? If doesn't fit well on the main user page since it's barred to 800px. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:04, 21 December 2010 (UTC)


Could I get final approval at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Smallbot?Smallman12q (talk) 16:39, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

I answered at the BRFA. I am watching the page, I just may not be available so promptly. BRFAs are quite backlogged and there are few active BAGgers. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:11, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
Could I get a final approval?Smallman12q (talk) 14:17, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I finished. You can see what was edited at Special:Contributions/Smallbot.Smallman12q (talk) 23:18, 22 December 2010 (UTC)


Are you planning on reintroducing alerts on DYKs? Simply south (talk) and their tree 19:39, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is planned. Although the method is different from how all other implemented workflows work, so this may take a little longer, as there are some more important features in priority. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 19:56, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
OK. Simply south (talk) and their tree 20:54, 22 December 2010 (UTC)


Regarding User talk:Moxy#Article alerts I hope i got it now.Moxy (talk) 16:18, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your help by the way....So i see there is no point in-trying with WP:Music because we do not have our own Banner is that what your saying?Moxy (talk) 00:57, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks! —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:04, 24 December 2010 (UTC)


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Please see Wikipedia:Bot requests#.22Hot articles.22 bot for Wikiprojects. Thanks! Kaldari (talk) 22:44, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

Comment about you

[4] But I won't be following where it's been made so clear to me to stay away. There is plenty to do elsewhere. --Kleopatra (talk) 18:29, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

I merely replied to you without any implication of "comment being stupid" or "to stay away". In any case, I won't be making further excuses since I don't believe anything I said was either dismissive or offensive. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:48, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Sandbox 2 problem

Hi-just to let you know that the WP banner in your sandbox was showing up in one of the template errors categories, so I've added category=no. Whenever you want to copy the template, then you can just add in the category parameter on the template pg. Just a suggestion, if you do the testing on the actual template's sandbox page, then it doesn't seem to cause the false-categorization problems. Hope this helps. --Funandtrvl (talk) 17:32, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

WP:CUP bot

I forgot to thank you for your timely intervention. So: thanks! Regards, - Jarry1250 [Who? Discuss.] 10:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Video game design

Thanks for the comment. My main interest is to start Board game design and I don't really mind whether the name includes brackets or notHarrypotter (talk) 11:31, 9 January 2011 (UTC)


Moved to Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts#AAlertBot

Fast Striker

Another indie game article Marked for deletion, I have beefed up the notability references. Have a look and see if you can help me improve it. Thanks & Regards. --Cube b3 (talk) 20:03, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I'll take a look at it tomorrow. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:18, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Infiniminer

I removed the prod tag you placed on Infiniminer and restored the article to a redirect, as the article had existed as a redirect for several months. Another editor raised the issue that this is an implausible redirect; I have no prejudice against nominating this page at RfD on those grounds. —KuyaBriBriTalk 21:25, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

No prob. Thanks for notice! —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 21:26, 11 January 2011 (UTC)


Congratulations for the AAlertBot. I very musch missed its predecessor and the new version is even better.--Grahame (talk) 00:51, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

I second that. Ben MacDui 08:16, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:07, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

List of four-dimensional games

I removed your copy-paste tag from List of four-dimensional games and described my reasons on it's discussion page. Could you please review it? Thanks, LaszloSimon (talk) 12:33, 15 January 2011 (UTC)


See here. –xenotalk 18:26, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for notice. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:33, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the update on the WebCiteBOT project

That was fast. I guess I don't need to let you know about the project page. Would you mind commenting on the talk page about the software aspects of this project, as you are one of our experts? Thanks. - Hydroxonium (H3O+) 15:19, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

About R&B and Soul Barnstar

Hello there, it seems that I added the R&B and Soul barnstar to the list and you removed it. I was wondering, why? Eduemonitalk 23:08, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

My bad, I read the Barnstars article page right way this time and I saw that to add a new barnstar you need to introduce it in the project's talk page. Thanks anyway Eduemonitalk 23:10, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
That's correct. Cheers! —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 23:11, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

SmackBot 42

Just a note to draw you attention to the above task which is awaiting BAG input.

pp. Rich Farmbrough, Femto Bot, (possibly the smallest bot in the world) 23:38, 21 February 2011 (UTC)

User:Kasirbot's edits

You might want to check out Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Kasirbot - his bot is currently adding interwiki links to the while apparently waiting for approval for that task.  :S I didn't ask him to stop b/c my bot policy is a bit rusty, (I think there either is or used to be an exception to the normal process for interwiki bots? But maybe I'm remembering incorrectly...) but thought you might want to have a look. --Philosopher Let us reason together. 22:52, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Discussion regarding bot task approval: ISBN formatting

Hi, with regard to the latest bot task for my bot that you were involved in approval of, you may be interested to comment on Wikipedia_talk:Bots/Requests_for_approval/RjwilmsiBot_6, Wikipedia_talk:MOS#ISBNs or Wikipedia_talk:ISBN#ISBNs_and_hyphens. Thanks Rjwilmsi 18:04, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for notice! —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:32, 24 February 2011 (UTC)

Bot operator's barnstar

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This barnstar is awarded to you for the work on AAlertBot. I find it very usefull.
Keep up the good work!

Talk/♥фĩłдωəß♥\Work 11:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Thank you! —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:35, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Message from the ITF leader.

This is the leader of the ITF. I have noticed a degree of inactivity during my absence, and we wish that you can help change this to help future articles on independent video games. Thank you, Takeo 22:40, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

I am not sure what you are implying. You proposed the ITF, and that was a great call and the task force was overdue for some time. But you are not strictly speaking the "leader" in the same sense as there are no "authors" for the articles (WP:OWN). If you wish to nominate yourself as a coordinator (like, for example, MILHIST project or GOCE has), then feel free to do so.
I also fail to see what inactivity you are referring to, especially in a personal message. We just had Jenova Chen passed as a good article (where I reviewed) and Flow (video game) is FAC by PresN where users are commenting (including me). I, personally, am working on Indie game, i.e. the core article. So for 6 person task force, we are doing quite O.K. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 22:57, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oscar Humphries

(Please excuse the wiki-linked section title) What's the reasons for this AfD? - Pointillist (talk) 22:44, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

As posted on the discussion page itself, finishing incomplete nomination by the original nominator (did not create discussion page, only added afd/dated template). —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 22:46, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
Oh - Pointillist (talk) 22:49, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

AAlerts question

I was wondering about the reasons behind this edit. This is actually a recently set up page; did I miss a step somewhere when setting it up? Thanks.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 28, 2011; 14:34 (UTC)

Ah, I was going through subscription fixing any broken ones. It was
But both the task force page and category were deleted, by you actually. I removed it because there are no pages to report. I'm not exactly sure what's happening here. :) —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:21, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
Ah, crud, I see it now. We've been organizing and re-organizing the taskforce structure of WP:RUSSIA, and this particular taskforce was split in two, and the name for the subscription should have been changed but wasn't. I'll take care of it. What a duh moment! Thanks for looking anyway!—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); February 28, 2011; 17:01 (UTC)


I actually tried to participate in a discussion I started and you accused me of sarcasm and then you turn it into a conversation with Student7. If you have a question of my sincerity take it to my talk page. Okay? Blackwidowhex (talk) 17:48, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Please do not imply me of turning conversations, as the indentation level correctly corresponds with a reply to Student7 (same as your reply "The verb is [..]"). Your unexpected comment "Thanks. Now, I get it." implied that you thought my explanation was to you. In which case, my explanation would be nothing short of condescending. So I noted that the reply was indeed to Student7 specifically. Perhaps not the best choice of words on retrospective; but definitely not personal. If anything, I don't mean to offend; even if I stepped on a rake with my poor choice of words. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 19:02, 5 March 2011 (UTC)

Indie Game Jam

Please respond to my comments about your edits to this article. The consensus was that this article needs improvement, so please discuss rather than just making reverts. Kuguar03 (talk) 23:10, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I did respond on AfD before it was closed. Note that I am in a different timezone, so it was too late yesterday. I'll respond on talk page. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 08:41, 12 March 2011 (UTC)


Thanks for responding quickly to the comments at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Snotbot 3. The bot is running right now and should be done shortly. However, I wanted to ask your advice on Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Snotbot 4, since you've been dealing with this kind of stuff a lot longer than I have. How do you think I should proceed there? Should I just drop it because of the vocal opposition, or do I have a chance of eventually getting it approved? —SW— converse 22:36, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

As soon as BRFAs get opposes, the BAG becomes really reluctant to do anything. Basically, if someone complain later, they will complain about BAG. I haven't really dealt with this that long, so I am cautious myself of bots with possible contention. All I can say is that citations and anything around them always comes down to "style preference", even if it is sometimes just silly. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 08:56, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Bot job


I've just found Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/H3llBot in which you refer to Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/ValhallaBot. The latter was denied because it turned out that Emily Jensen was a sockpuppet; not because of any issues to do with the request. True, there were some concerns about non-Gregorian dates, but those were in the process of being resolved.

I've now re-factored the request, to take account of that resolution. Do you still fancy having a crack at it, please? Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 17:49, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Hi! I have to point out that that request was some time ago, before I knew anything about microformats and thought the request was about date standardization. I have previously responded to you at the bot requests page, where you seem to have by large dismissed me. While the request may had been non-contested at the time, as you know, consensus can change. And per the RfC, each individual case should be reviewed separately. That is also the consensus I will base my and BAG decisions upon. As far as I know, you have not yet pursued discussions on individual cases.
So, unfortunately, at this time I won't be going for this task. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:51, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
I answered you fully and correctly at BOTREQ and the RfC has no bearing on this request. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 20:28, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

Plot section

Please do not change section titles from "Plot" to "Synopsis". Plot is the except section title for any plot summary reguardless for how short or long it is. Any change to this standard must be accompanied by a consensus discussion done on a community forum, such as the village pump. —Farix (t | c) 21:41, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

I only changed a few that corresponded to synopsis/summary better in meaning than plot (narrative). I won't change them again. I understand you want to make a point, but you are exaggerating the current norm. As far as I know there has not been any consensus to use "Plot" for every work's plot section and this is not within any policy/guideline. That's an editorial decision, and if you believe these articles cover more than just a synopsis of the story, feel free to revert. I am not particularly concerned about this. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 22:00, 25 March 2011 (UTC)


Your constructive criticism of Tatsunoko vs. Capcom: Ultimate All-Stars ends at the Launch section. Did you find no issues with Reception? Just making sure. « ₣M₣ » 22:13, 19 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I did not run through it; real life took precedence and afterwards I forgot. I'll try and remember to look at it tomorrow. But as per another comment, WP:LQ and excessive quotes might be the issues. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 22:33, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Oh, okay! « ₣M₣ » 17:26, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
 :-/ « ₣M₣ » 07:11, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Hey. As mentioned here. Can you move your comments? I didn't know that was allowed. Also remember those "done" templates are not allowed in FACs. I guess I thought you did bare text like this (√). My oversight. :/ Thanks, « ₣M₣ » 16:56, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

I was previously asked to use caps on FACs so that my comments don't take up too much space (here), but it seems this is a rather gray area. I'll move them to talk page. I also didn't realize FAC archives would reach transclusion limit so fast. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:19, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Hey, thanks. Peer review is not always a reliable resource, so editors like you make the difference. That's sounds cheesy, but its true! « ₣M₣ » 19:16, 26 March 2011 (UTC)


Thanks for the help with the parks barnstar. Awardgive, ruler of every world in the sodaie way (talk) 22:36, 29 March 2011 (UTC)


It looks like you're active, and approve things, and so forth; in which case; please, could you review Wikipedia:Bots/Requests_for_approval#ChzzBot_II? It's v simple, and any 'approval' even temporary would be lovely. Best,  Chzz  ►  05:15, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

Could you also please review Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/JeffGBot? Thanks!   — Jeff G.  ツ 21:00, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

GOCE barnstar

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For copy editing seven articles with a total of 10,870 words (including bonuses) during the Guild of Copy Editors' March 2011 Backlog elimination drive. Thanks for all your contributions! SMasters (talk) 05:07, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Lightbot BRFA

Lightbot 10 can probably be approved under the current arbcom restriction, but the rest would fall outside it IMO. Gigs (talk) 23:25, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Reviewer barnstar

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In recognition of the incredibly detailed reviews that you've been doing at FAC, I present you the Reviewer's Barnstar. Your efforts are greatly appreciated! --PresN 20:41, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 07:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Psychology Barnstar

Hi and thanks for the message: sorry for not reading the rules properly in adding the Psychology Barnstar. I've started a discussion: could you weigh in with any objections or opinions you might have? Thanks in advance, MartinPoulter (talk) 13:47, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

superscripted text in quotes

Hi. Did you post a question to the MOS? Do you still think we should clarify this? Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Yobot 20. -- Magioladitis (talk) 17:31, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I thought you would, since it is your proposal. Feel free to elaborate at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#Superscripted_text_in_quotes. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:38, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

I do have articles for my games

Moved discussion from User talk:H3llBot#I do have articles for my games.,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=a404a1c26a268bba

Gives you 44k+ results.

I had 4 games in the top 100 of the Google Android Market for the first 3 months.

I have 10 million downloads for the last 2 years.

I am also the developer of the AllBinary Game Development Kit

I have 2 or 3 real articles in those results somewhere.

I have over ten 10 games with 50k+ downloads and 4 with over 1,000,000

That is more than many of the companies listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tberthel (talkcontribs)

The consensus refers to an article on English Wikipedia, not on the rest of the web. You should read WP:NOTABILITY and see if the company or the games could pass the Wikipedia's inclusion criteria -- to have significant coverage in multiple, reliable, secondary sources. Feel free to contact me with advice if you want to start any of the articles (though I see that AllBinary was speedily deleted). —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:36, 14 April 2011 (UTC)

Half of those in the list don't meet those guidelines. I was only asking for equal treatment. You can see my download numbers on Google Android Market and 20+ other online stores from the search I provided along with with other user information. While popularity is only a secondary item in the guidelines you would note that most in the list don't even have their own game engine or other things that would make them indie. In fact many of them are finance companies mainly without any real depth to their development like tools, multi-player, multi-platform or other weaknesses compared to my business. Advertising to obtain notability through government redistribution is not appropriate. As such I claim you and your organization as a government redistribution fraud like GM, 90% of the indie companies listed and others. I will just build my robot army and fuck over the tyrants that control the media through money instead of products, production, and work.

Fuck You,

Travis — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Little note

Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Wikipedia_Awards#FS_Barnstar - I think it's ready to be placed on the main page, there is consensus to do so. —James (TalkContribs)9:56pm 11:56, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Perfectly fine by me. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:58, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
 Done Cheers H3llkn0wz. —James (TalkContribs)11:53am 01:53, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

bot request

Hi, would you please answer my bot request and when can i run my bot.I have bot flag in and I know how can I manage the codes. please apply my request . with regards Reza1615 (talk) 23:57, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Sorry it took so long, we're short on BAG members. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 07:10, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

First read the talk page

Infiniminer --Kirov Airship (talk) 11:10, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

I reverted to an existing page redirect, because I was going to WP:RfD it, and to keep it to what the original state was. But now that you recreated it, I will have to WP:CSD#G4 it. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:18, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Age of Empires II is not in development too. Why it has an article then? And why speedy deletion? It is not spam. Stop preventing new users from editing articles. In recent years there is decrease of editors due to acts like that. --Kirov Airship (talk) 11:26, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Age of Empires II is notable; see WP:NOTABILITY. The criteria reads "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" and the articles for deletion discussion resulted in consensus to delete after notability could not be demonstrated. The speedy deletion criteria I am using is G4 -- "Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion," not spam. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:30, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
It is notable game, it is the core of inspiration of Minecraft, which earn more than 7 000 000 euros, only by one programmer. Also it is more notable than 2D ASCII DOS game Dwarf_Fortress. --Kirov Airship (talk) 11:34, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
"Notability" means WP:NOTABILITY policy of Wikipedia, not any other interpretation of the meaning of this word. See WP:NOTINHERITED -- being an inspiration for Minecraft, does not make Infiniminier notable. Dwarf Fortress has received "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", therefore it is notable according to the Wikipedia policy. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:39, 18 April 2011 (UTC)


Fine I won't spam anymore. (talk) 09:30, 23 April 2011 (UTC)


Remember me? Like what PRs usually do, mine on Nintendo DSi is vegetating. If you ever feel like reviewing it, go ahead. Thanks, « ₣M₣ » 02:38, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Thatgamecompany GAN

Hey, thanks for the review! I've gotten through all of your comments and adjusted accordingly, so the article's ready for another look. --PresN 00:41, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive newsletter

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The Guild of Copy Editors – May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive

The Guild of Copy Editors invite you to participate in the May 2011 Backlog Elimination Drive, a month-long effort to reduce the backlog of articles that require copy-editing. The drive began on May 1 at 00:00 (UTC) and will end on May 31 at 23:59 (UTC). The goals of this backlog elimination drive are to eliminate as many articles as possible from the 2009 backlog and to reduce the overall backlog by 15%. ! NEW ! In an effort to encourage the final elimination of all 2009 articles, we will be tracking them on the leaderboard for this drive.

Awards and barnstars
A range of barnstars will be awarded to active participants. Some are exclusive to GOCE drives. More information on awards can be found on the main drive page.

We look forward to meeting you on the drive! Your GOCE coordinators: SMasters, Diannaa, Tea with toast, Chaosdruid, and Torchiest

You are receiving a copy of this newsletter as you are a member of the Guild of Copy Editors, or have participated in one of our drives. If you do not wish to receive future newsletters, please add you name here. Sent on behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors using AWB on 07:24, 4 May 2011 (UTC)


Hi! Just a note that {{WikiProjectBannerShell}} is usually used with more than 2 projects banners. Regards. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 07:21, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi! ...thanks for the heads up, I'll take appropriate action — Jdcollins13 (talk) 14:57, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

Zachtronics Industries

Hey bro. Please don't take the things I said on the discussion page personally. I'm just very tired and angry at what you and other people have been doing which is essentially destroying history and consigning them to oblivion -- obscure subject matters that need now rescuing. It has been very, very exhausting has made me start to think like hundreds (if not thousands) of other people do about contributing to wikipedia and just giving up and abandoning it.

Please read the following articles and consider carefully what you have been doing, and if you think they are valid, please try to help explain these things with other VG wikiproj wikipedians that you must constantly interact with.

Regards, -Object404 (talk) 09:20, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

As much as I would prefer to rewrite and keep Zachary Barth article, your personal remarks and accusations do little more than discourage me from constructive edits to the article. I was half-way done with prose and sourcing comments on the article this morning. That is, until your uncalled-for comments on AfD. I'll just go collect more poke-badges. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:05, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Just be less delete-happy dude. Just because you can't find sources on your own doesn't mean that they aren't there. There's also an exodus crisis of Wikipedia volunteers due to deletionism so exercise care before tagging an article for deletion. The bizarre thing about this is that I see this delete trigger-happiness occur mostly in the Video Games WikiProject and not so much other subjects (check articles on classic mythology, mythological creatures & regional folklore). Although many of those lack "internet sourcing" and citations, they are very well covered in multiple studies & decades or hundreds of years of cultural tradition - all deserving of wikipedia articles (and general knowledge) despite lack of sourcing. Not everything is on the internet and don't be delete-happy on subjects that you are slightly unfamiliar with. Although Wikipedia's rules are there to maintain the quality of articles, this deletion madness is very much against the spirit of the project. Please don't be a part of it. -Object404 (talk) 11:57, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Further clarification to mass article creation

Because you participated in Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Proposal (permanent link), you may be interested in Wikipedia talk:Bot policy#Further clarification to mass article creation. Cunard (talk) 08:53, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for note, responded. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:06, 8 May 2011 (UTC)


Hi, I don't know if you remember but almost a year ago, I floated the idea of Pallet, although I am part way through the coding I don't have the time for the project. Are you interested in taking over the project and breathing new life into it? [d'oh] 06:43, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Hi! My life is too full with more commitments made than I can handle :) That said, I did want to work on a script-like language for MediaWiki interaction. What is Pallet written in? —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 06:48, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
I can understand, although I can't take a leading role, I can still help out and I am sure other developers will be willing to help to get something going. Interesting idea, the code is written in PHP; half of the code is accessing Wikipedia, the other half is stepping through code (a string). The original idea was to pass the code through a interpreter which returns "opcode", which can be executed by the executor. [d'oh] 07:22, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

OLB task 3 is a trial

I don't want to create any sort of "drama", but I figured that I'd float a NLP based task for Ohms Law Bot as a trial balloon, based on some recent acceptance of similar tasks, such as Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/RichardcavellBot 3. That's at least going to trial. Regardless, I meant what I said about being OK with not getting approval. I've been using the code for manually assisted changes, off and on, for months (has it been years? wow...). I realize that you don't know me from Adam, and you certainly haven't seen my code, but... well, I was hoping for a trial at least. Oh, and the "handful of 'false positives' per 100 edits" was just a guess. I'm honestly uncertain how many there would be. I'm fairly confident that there wouldn't be any false positives, but I can't say that with any certainty. Statistically, there shouldn't be more then 1 false positive in 1000 edits, but I can't prove it.
— V = IR (Talk • Contribs) 21:32, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

RCB3 is hardly NLP though, it's a simple search/replace of [[selflink]] to selflink, except the first occurrence in lead to '''selflink'''. "False positives" are editors wanting to bold non-first occurrences. What you are proposing is a bot that replaces one to several words in a human written text. This is Wikipedia, changing a comma by bot in "someone's" article can cause drama, let alone changing context-sensitive wording. I simply cannot imagine how a bot, even NLP bot, could do this perfectly. But let's see. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 06:20, 16 May 2011 (UTC)


Hi! Sorry, my bot did over 50 edition. thanks--sahim (talk) 20:28, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you H3llkn0wz --sahim (talk) 08:41, 23 May 2011 (UTC)


Somehow I managed to lock myself out of my CountryBot account! I switched the bot request over to a new bot account. Hope this is OK. Kaldari (talk) 19:42, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

There probably is a way to regain it with some bureaucrat help or something, but it's not really a problem. At least your new bot name is consistent with BOTPOL ;) 19:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)


I was just wondering if you had ever considered being an administrator? We could well use someone with your expertise in template coding, and attention to detail. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:43, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

I have considered, yes. But I feel I might fail RfA now due to lack of contributions to good/featured content. Which reminds me I should finally work on some of that. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 13:53, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

GOCE nomination

On behalf of the Guild of Copy Editors WikiProject, I present to you the following:

The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs would like to nominate you to be a coordinator for the Guild of Copy Editors WikiProject. If you would like to accept this nomination, please add your name to the appropriate nomination page listed at the bottom of this page. Thank you!
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--The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 22:11, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, but I don't feel that I can make a commitment based on time-frames. I wanted to be more active in the GOCE drives, but ended up editing less than I planned. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 14:15, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Terra Nova

I responded to your comments on the FAC page. It'd be great if you could take another look at the article. Thanks. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 01:02, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

  • I've attempted to address your remaining concerns. Feel free to check it out whenever you have time. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 04:04, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
    • I will, we're just in completely different timezones. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 06:47, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
      • I've also recently been editing in the middle of the night, which probably isn't helping. Anyway, I tried to deal with your final concerns. Thanks for the thorough review. JimmyBlackwing (talk) 21:52, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


I've taken over AlexNewArtBot, and he made it official, even blocking his bot account. Because of that, do you mind IAR and striking the "don't break AlexNewArtBot" section of the BRFA? I'll take it to WT:BRFA if you prefer, but I wanted to ask you personally first. tedder (talk) 05:06, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Sure, no problem, go ahead. No need for WT:BRFA. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 06:41, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

GOCE drive invitation

Greetings from the Guild of Copy Editors
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Wikipedia:Update/1/Enforcement policy changes, 2011

Hi, were you going to include later changes at WP:BOTPOL? When a new section is added, you can just say "New section [name]" if you like, rather that listing all the new text. - Dank (push to talk) 05:29, 4 July 2011 (UTC)


Moved from User talk:H3llBot#GedawyBot 16:32, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks sir, What next steps should i do to have bot flag?--Mohamed ElGedawy (talk) 16:05, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

A bureaucrat will flag your bot soon. They should be watching Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Approved. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:37, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

Template interwiki errors

Originally at User talk:GhalyBot#Template interwiki errors

Hi! These two edits messed up the documentation page interwikis. Do note that can have problems with interwikis placed on documentation pages. See also WP:INTERWIKIBOT. Regards. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:11, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Here the bot linked to a /doc subpage instead of the template. Although zh page is a mess too. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:25, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

  • I have stooped the bot once I read your message, sorry for any inconvenience it caused.--Ghaly (talk) 07:55, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
    • No problem. Thanks. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 07:59, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

4 Minute no community input bot trial approval

I have requested that your immediate approval of TTObot be revoked. [5] If there is some reason for not allowing or not needing community discussion you should have included that information in your approval. You didn't. -- (talk) 04:20, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

This is a courtesy notice. Please discuss the issue at the BRfA. Thanks. -- (talk) 04:33, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

I replied to the concern on the BRFA. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 08:06, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: Limbo trademark spelling

OK. Article title maybe should be "Limbo" per style, but still in text there should be stylized "LIMBO" as it's official name seen on company's site. Sir Lothar (talk) 10:07, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

It is the official name, but not the spelling we would use on WIkipedia per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (trademarks), in particular "Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules, even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official"". —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:04, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
OK. I've reverted move page. Regards , Sir Lothar (talk) 12:38, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


Uh..did you miss the bit about "I would request a separate task in place, the fixing of double redirects" on my BRFA? :) Steven Zhang The clock is ticking.... 11:01, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh! I assumed "a separate task" meant you wanted to open a new BRFA. Do you want to reuse the same one? —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:08, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
Yeah. Steven Zhang The clock is ticking.... 12:12, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Amolbot's flag request

Hi dear. My bot's trial approval complated. please see My request. sincerely:--Pesare amol (talk) 20:41, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

Approved. You'll have to wait a bit for a bureaucrat to flag the bot. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 07:40, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Ok.Thanks a lot.--Pesare amol (talk) 11:10, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

A comment about your rapid approve and remove

... can be found here. Please discuss there, not here, should you desire discussion. Thanks. -- (talk) 21:26, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

To hell with the IPs AN/I

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 04:31, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Vitruvian Barnstar Hires.png The Technical Barnstar
For the excellent work in coding User:AAlertBot. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 19:12, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
Thank you! —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:30, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Why should the BRFA page ever be other than "Botname ##"?

Regarding this edit, I can only ask "why would we ever need to have a BRFA subpage that does not conform to the standard naming?". If someone files one that way in error, there is always the "move" button to fix it. Anomie 17:44, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

For this particular case it was for Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DASHBot WebCite. But I guess moving the page is easier. Not sure why I thought long way is better :) —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:20, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Request for IP block exemption

Hi Dear H3llkn0wz.
Our (Me & My Bot) Ip address Blocked with Kanonkas. We connect to Wikipedia project's with VPN , Because some wiki project's (like: commons, es@wiki) was blocked in Iran and We Can't see this project's with normal connection without VPN. But Kanonkas left Wikipedia. Please change our user rights to IP block exemption's user. If You need My VPN server's ip address I can send for you with email. sincerely:--Pesare amol (talk) 18:06, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi! I'd like to help, but I am not actually a sysop, so I cannot change any blocks. See Wikipedia:IPBLOCK#Requesting and granting exemption and place (I think) an {{Unblock-auto}} request template on your user talk and bot's user talk pages. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:49, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks Dear. But I thought You're Sysop in En@Wiki. :D Because You are active in some project's like this. But You're kind and lovely in En@wiki like some Sysop's ;) --Pesare amol (talk) 19:48, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Just a thank you

Hi, just wanted to say thanks a million for approving the SuggestBot BRFA so quickly, I greatly appreciated that! Cheers, Nettrom (talk) 22:23, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

No problem, this shouldn't be controversial. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 07:39, 27 August 2011 (UTC)


Outline of Nevada territorial evolution, Outline of North Dakota territorial evolution, Outline of Oregon territorial evolution, Outline of Washington territorial evolution, and Outline of Wyoming territorial evolution fall within the scope of the outline project.

Thank you for tagging them. The Transhumanist 21:05, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Deadurl= for live urls

Okay, thanks. Only Gamedaily is dead, so you can go ahead. Btw, I cannot find a source for Neo-Human Casshern#Title romanization, so I'm thinking a nihongo template with this source is going to have to work somehow. « ₣M₣ » 19:59, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

I'll do that. I have actually no idea about who/what Casshan/Casshern is, but with some good faith towards IP, I checked Casshan and it says it is anime and Casshern is Tetsuya Azuma, so I thought that edit's right. I don't actually speak Japanese or know much about romanization. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:07, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
Btw, what tool did you use for adding archiveurls? Or did you do it manually? —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:14, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
I would like one, so yeah, manually. You got H3llBot, can't you use that. :P « ₣M₣ » 23:18, 9 September 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/SharafBot

Hi H3llkn0wz,
How much time have to wait until the bot flag is granted?! Trial complete! --Sharaf Al Deen (Talk) 10:58, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

I replied on the BRFA. Though any other BAG member can approve/check the bot. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:16, 21 September 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Update/1/Enforcement policy changes, 2011

Would you like to update BOTPOL again? - Dank (push to talk) 02:17, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi! There haven't been any substantial changes there. I'm not sure what kind of detail you are looking for, but I don't think non-visual and grammar edits count. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 06:35, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Ah, thanks, I should have checked. - Dank (push to talk) 13:33, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

TB at BRFA/SharafBot

{{Talkback|WP:Bots/Requests for approval/SharafBot}} --Sharaf Al Deen (Talk) 14:29, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Replied there. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:38, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


For actually speaking to me as if I were a human being for once.[6] Keep this up and you could incite others to the same behavior and give me (and so many more) less support for my usually pissed off state when dealing with wikipedia editors in policy areas. Oh, and 1 point for beating me in the "first to be polite" area. The IP -- (talk) 16:41, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for helping, but...

I clearly want to uh... congratulate... you... for editing it for adding pizzazz and other stuff. So yeah, I am Pikachu4170, I modified the MineCon page, good pizzazz though, thanks for helping me. Dunno why but thanks. Pikachu4170 (talk) 20:46, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Revolution Software

Hi, re the attempts by 7arazred (talk · contribs) to get Revolution Software listed as a GA, I find the sole edit by Bsbass (talk · contribs) suspicious - within minutes of that edit, 7arazred submitted his GA review. Do you think that a WP:SPI is warranted? --Redrose64 (talk) 15:49, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Hi! I did also imply that at Talk:Revolution_Software/GA2. I'm not too sure how much disruption does one have to cause to warrant an SPI, though I think in this case a desist note would be enough for now. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:25, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
OK, in which I think that {{subst:uw-agf-sock}} is the one to use - but who should it be served on? --Redrose64 (talk) 16:59, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
If it was, then the main account. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:06, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Foreign languages assistance

Hi! I noticed you are listed at Wikipedia:Translators available. Could you please take a look at a post at Talk:Battle of Vukovar#Next steps: a call for assistance and advise whether you might be able to help in terms of a Latvian translation of summary of the article lead? Thanks.--Tomobe03 (talk) 21:12, 28 October 2011 (UTC)


Hi. I need some help in transcription of the Russian inscription on the funeral stone ( and translation in English. Thanks in advance. Cezarika1 (talk) 12:42, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Russian translation

Hello. I was on Wikipedia:Translators available and notice that you were on the list for Russian to English translators and wondered if you could translate Maria Vladimirovna of Staritsa and/or Vladimir of Staritsa? Thanks.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 01:12, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

deadurl not in Template:Citation and Template:Cite book

Hi, is there a reason that [{{Citation}} and {{Cite book}} doesn't have the |deadurl= parameter whereas {{cite web}}, {{cite news}} {{cite journal}} do? Thanks Rjwilmsi 10:11, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Hey! Hehe. Possibly because I went "nrghurgh" when I saw the markup of some of the ones I was going to do. But these two should be relatively easy. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:33, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
Template talk:Cite book#deadurl parameter; Template talk:Citation#deadurl parameter. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:57, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Russian translation

Hello. I was on Wikipedia:Translators available and notice that you were on the list for Russian to English translators and wondered if you could translate Maria Vladimirovna of Staritsa and/or Vladimir of Staritsa? Thanks.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 01:12, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm quite busy at the moment with other work I have. I did look at the request previously, and I also might struggle with some of history-related terminology. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 08:59, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Article alerts

Hello! As you operate the bot behind article alerts, I wanted to ask you a couple of questions:

  • Can I use it for notifying me personally about some discussions I'm interested in?
  • If so, would it be appropriate to file a request for option to show whether the given user (me in this case) participated in the reported event?

Thanks in advance! — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 14:18, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Hey! This was asked before at Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts/Feature_requests#Article_Alerts_for_individuals; you can see the gist of it there. Basically, I run the bot on my PC and it's pretty slow considering just how many pages it has to read and process. Also AA was mainly meant for relevant discussions that may be happening without triggering your watchlist, instead of you manually selecting articles. How would you select what articles to receive? —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:57, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
Basically I need just Wikipedia:WikiProject Software/Article alerts‎ with the marks about my participation and last message. I think I'll just create my own script with read-only Wikipedia access that would inform me locally (by mail or jabber or whatever). Thanks anyway! — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 17:05, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Bot Data

Hello H3llkn0wz...I just wanted to check in and see if you've had time to do a "proper" parse (as you put it) of the BRFA data. No rush really...just wondering. Thanks again for your help with this (and really, no dire rush on this). UOJComm (talk) 20:07, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

I'll look into it. The thing is that the syntax changed over time so it's a mess. Page creation date/user are more or less reliable. I'll try to get reliable dates when the requests got closed by parsing histories. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:18, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Cool...thank you so much for your help! UOJComm (talk) 22:39, 27 February 2012 (UTC)

Weird AAlertBot MfDs

At WP:VG/AA, the bot re-adds two non-existent MfDs (and no edit on either of the pages has ever added anything related to a MfD). I removed it but it was re-added. What's up? Salvidrim! 20:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Well, the bot doesn't check pages for what humans may or may not have changed, because that's a doorway to complicated buggy mess. So it just rewrites whatever it needs independent on what happens on the page. Now, those two MfDs are there because Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/External link templates got nominated and the nominator did not <noinclude> the {{mfd}} tag. That page is transcluded on both Wikipedia:WikiProject Games/Templates and Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Templates, which caused them to be listed. I placed the tag in <noinclude>s [7], but the bot sees that as closed nomination (in this case, page kept). The actual MfDed page is not tagged with project banner though so it never appeared on the report.
I should make it possible for me to manually specify to remove certain pages when this happens. I should probably also check if the tag is actually present on the page before reporting. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:33, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
Ah, gotcha. Thanks for figuring it out; it's just a minor hassle, really... nothing crucial. :) Salvidrim! 20:42, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

New release up at Wikipedia:Persondata-o-matic

Finished reviewing your changes, made some changes, see github. Let me know if you have any disagreement. Thanks for your contribution. :-) Dcoetzee 01:26, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

All seems good. I know the login form was a mess with tab ordering, control options, etc. I also posted a small fix to UpdateFocus(). —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:22, 8 March 2012 (UTC)

Botop template

Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BattyBot 8 is kinda messed up. Josh Parris 09:30, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Yes, thanks, I already fixed it [8]. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 09:41, 12 March 2012 (UTC)


Didn't mean to delete your edit, misclicked in error NtheP (talk) 19:28, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

No problem :) —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 19:29, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

You had suggestions for better notification messages?

I'm interested in your suggestions to improve bot notifications.

PS-I hope it's not inappropriate that I forked this part of the discussion. My BRFA is a huge wall of text, and this tangent is unlikely to affect approve/reject. Blevintron (talk) 14:34, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Nothing crucial, really, just random thoughts. This might be just me, but the phrase "Thank you for your contributions to the article" is a bit patronizing and definitely sounds like one of those user warning templates "Thank you for blah blah.., however your edits were vandalism." :) if you see what I mean. The rest is fine I think. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 08:45, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Bot Request

Hi! im waiting for approve or Denay my request. please proceeding that. Best Regards Mamad TALK 05:56, 12 April 2012 (UTC)


Looks like ImHereToScrewUp removed your Level 3 Vandalism warning from their talk page, and replaced it with "carry on" (diff) not sure the policy here, but I have a bad feeling about this. Thought I'd bring this action to your attention. Jesse V. (talk) 19:45, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. I won't make a big deal of it. Users are free to remove most of the stuff from their talk pages. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:00, 24 April 2012 (UTC)


While I appreciate your concern, treating people at ArbCom as persona non grata is not a great idea. It means simply by being party to a case however unjustified, an editor can be prevented from working. Were this a valid principle, Hersfold would not be continuing with ARBing for example. I accepted the ARB case as a way of potentially resolving and clearing the years of innuendo and malice that had built up, not to add another layer to it - that as someone who has been in, or is in, an arbitration case my value as an editor and a human being is somehow in question. Rich Farmbrough, 20:11, 2 May 2012 (UTC).

Sorry, I'm not sure what you are referring to as I haven't made any comments in the case pages. Are you sure it was me making these kinds of comments? —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:29, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
Not on the case. I don't care what people say there (much), it can all be refuted, even though there's no guarantee that I can necessarily make my case well enough, at least it is public, and most of the sweeping generalizations have been disposed of, I hope. No I am talking about BRFA, (although other editors seem to think that I should not be editing at all, and should not be even spoken too!) freezing me out of BRFA is pretty unconstructive. If, as in the bad old days of date-delinking paralysis, BAG is scared of putting a foot wrong with ArbCom, then they should say so, and a new BAG can be formed. If on the other hand chilling effects are being allowed, we need to stop this forthwith. Rich Farmbrough, 01:20, 3 May 2012 (UTC).
I never "froze" you out of the BRFA, where did you come up with this allegation? Only way to do that is to close the BRFA, which I clearly didn't do. And I never said any of the other things you list. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 08:56, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Designer or Developer

Moved to User_talk:X201#Video_game_designer_vs_developer for easier nav. 14:43, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

File:Cyberscore.png Lost FfD

I see you've reverted my removal; perhaps this thread will clarify the situation. That FfD doesn't exist on the page WP:VG/AA links to. :) Salvidrim! 19:39, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I also just fixed the link to the new one. But the bot will need a bit of fixing... —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 19:41, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Hm, it HAS been relisted yesterday and the AA links updated. Just the timestamp is still outdated. Fixed. The "lost" FfD is clearly not a common situation, though! Salvidrim! 19:42, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
The thing is the bot doesn't recheck every entry each run (or it would be 3000+ entries and revision parsings each time, which would take forever). Since the re-nomination basically just changed the discussion link, the bot didn't see this change. Fixing the AA page manually also will have no effect on the next run, since the bot will overwrite it anyway. I can manually replace the data though and hope I don't forget to start the next run with this change. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 19:47, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
*shrugs* It's not all that crucial, as long as the link points to the right place. :) Salvidrim! 20:05, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

n-Space Indie Developer

Hello Hellknowz - I wanted to talk to you about the list of Indie Developers and your removal of n-Space from that list. I'm the Creative Dir there and wanted to see about getting us back on (I could just revert the change but then you might revert back and so on and so on - I don't want to go there ;)

We stumbled upon the wiki entry recently when we were wondering how many independent devs have been around as long as n-Space (17+ years). When we saw the list and the fact that we weren't on it, we made the quick addition. By the definition at the top of the page, we match up to the criteria pretty well. We're not owned by a publisher and we retain full operational control of our company. Our game engine is proprietary save for a few middleware solutions for audio, video playback, etc. We've worked with numerous publishers over the years (too many for me to count at the moment!) and have recently self-published titles. What would be the differentiating factor between a company like us and Insomniac or Saber or Renegade Kid (who are all on the list)? Thanks for your time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Newted01 (talkcontribs) 20:46, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I think the entry is more suitable for List of video game developers than List of indie game developers. I know the list is a mess, and "independent" vs "indie" gets used a bit arbitrarily; however the list is for "indie" companies, not just "un-owned". While technically the company isn't owned by anyone, one of the "indie" defining factors is "developed by individuals, small teams, or small independent companies", whereas ~60 employees is a moderate size studio. Another key factors is "indie developers do not have controlling interests or creative limitations and do not require publisher approval", whereas many of n-Space titles surely do and title IPs are owned by different entities. Of course, that is my opinion, so I hate to spring burden of proof on you, but you will have to show a reliable, secondary source that confirms the company is "indie". While I don't necessarily have the time to clean up the list article, I'm sure there are more existing examples where the company wouldn't qualify as "indie" by definition of reliable sources. If you feel strongly about this, you can bring this up on the list article's talk page or better yet on the company article's talk page and ask if editors agree that the company is indie or not based on sources. For example, I can find sources that call Insomniac indie, but I don't see any calling Saber indie, so I wouldn't object the latter being moved to the broader list (though I won't to avoid being pointy).
I might just split the list in two (indie and independent, but not indie) some day so this issue can be avoided altogether. I mean a good example is Valve, who are technically independent, but hardly indie. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 21:15, 10 May 2012 (UTC)


hi. im sorry for tell this. but according edit of you. Please see Contributions of my robot and say me: The last contribution of the robot has been occurred in 19:05, 9 May 2012. and when you hint me im say to you the robot is off in the 19:11, 9 May 2012. When the robot run after the my last message??? Please attention the first few, and the blocked the bot. and the close my requests for approval/ im only want help to wikipedia. thanks. as you wish answer me please leave message here and tell me.:)/Mahdi.hajiha (talk) 16:17, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, that was my bad. MediaWiki converted the time to 20:05 because of my time zone, but kept the bot's contribution list unchanged. I'll strike that comment for the record. But my concern still stands – that you didn't stop it 3 hours after you said you would stop it. But there are a lot more issues than just that. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:44, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
thanks to answer. but this problem when is occurred im run the for fawiki and huwiki. and im forget edit my and remove this line (usernames['wikipedia']['en'] = 'MahdiBot'). because im flag in fawiki and flag trail in huwiki im let the robot go away and when im back this problem has occurred. and i think the bot have not Sabotage in enwiki and run the very usually code in python. however im guilty and accept this. there is no Opportunity for this mistake?.:) your very Strict to account approval. is so good but maybe a little slower is not bad ;)/ thanks/Mahdi.hajiha (talk) 16:55, 11 May 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for the comment, no worries, comment at will.  :) --joe deckertalk to me 20:13, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

A cup of tea for you!

Meissen-teacup pinkrose01.jpg Thank you for correct my edit. Ivan530Talk 01:33, 27 May 2012 (UTC)


BarnstarCVG.png The CVG Barnstar
Hellknowz has been award the CVG Star for his tireless contributions to, and protection of the video game articles on Wikipedia. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 02:42, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Whoops, didn't notice the message. Thanks!. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:23, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Video game platform discussion

Hi there! As someone who participated in the "platform" discussion at WikiProject Video games, you are probably well aware of the complexities involved in the issue. Thus far we've discussed quite a few points but haven't come to any firm conclusions. One of the participants has suggested that we hold a !vote. Please share your thoughts on how we should proceed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games#Starting a !vote. If you would like to !vote, one of the participants has already provided several options. Thanks for your help! CaseyPenk (talk) 16:23, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

My Bad

HellKnowz, yes, I'm using a tool, and I did mistake your signature for a vandal's edit (It shows everything in plain-text)/ Sorry about that~! "....We are all Kosh...."  <-Babylon-5-> 17:06, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Bot name

Before I act at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/HawkEyeBot, I wanted to make sure you're on-board with the bot name question. Thanks. MBisanz talk 17:04, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Well, BOTPOL says so. I don't want to make judgments on which parts of policy can or cannot be ignored. Given this is one of the first and sometimes only things identifying the bot, I would think it's pretty important. Then again, we have a biggish list of bots that aren't named after the botop or their main tasks. Bottomline, I don't really care about this much because nobody is enforcing it, but I brought it up so no one bothers BAG/me about it in case of issues. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 17:28, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
I appreciate that and I'll certainly bear any blame for approving a bot not in strict compliance with the naming policies. My general feeling with the bot policy is that we can ignore the parts of the policy that no one cares about, such as the operator identifier, the peak load performance section, or some of the situations of a bot operated by two people or a bot task transferred to a new account. Thanks though for giving your thoughts. MBisanz talk 03:25, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Template scripting

Hi Hellknowz. I remember you fixed a script for Good article alerts so it could link to both individual reassessments and community ones (Wikipedia talk:Article alerts/Bugs#Individual GA Reassessment). Therefore I am hoping that this request will be relatively easy for you. We have a template called {{GARMessage}} that informs wikiprojects and editors of current reassessments. Unfortunately it doesn't differentiate between community and individual reassessments (instead always pointing to the last individual reassessment or review). Is it possible to have some sort of code that would recognize which one to go to. If this is not easy, don't worry about it, we can always have two separate templates. AIRcorn (talk) 01:49, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Hey. I added both cases to the template. It doesn't differentiate between existing and non-existant pages, but I assume that's not needed since message is delivered after the reassessment page is created? I don't know what wording you want, but that should be straight-forward to modify. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:01, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks mate. You're a legend. AIRcorn (talk) 10:14, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

Could you go back...

Could you go back and fix whatever you'd fixed on the "Average size of article by Wikipedia" section in "Village Pump: Idea Lab". Somehow the whole section disappeared and I had to reinstate it and in the process your fixes disappeared. I'm not sure exactly what you had done (see View history) but it was a minor edit. Sorry and thanks.Basemetal00 (talk) 20:24, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

I only put back the markup (links, signatures, formatting, etc.) with this edit (because you copied the rendered text, not the source). There does not seem to be any lost parts, yet alone a whole section. See the page's history. Only removal of section I see is your edit at 20:00. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 20:45, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Actually I don't know how but duplicates appeared. So Hex removed one duplicate at 19:03 and and I the other at 20:00. And I don't know how this was possible, probably one hour later I was looking at an old page and didn't realize there were no duplicates any longer, but as a result the whole section disappeared. In any case everything's fine now, Hex restored your fixes. Cheers.Basemetal00 (talk) 21:19, 10 November 2012 (UTC)

Great reply

Your edit {Too much content, too little quality?: re) was a very well worded synopsis of very difficult issue. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 11:28, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 11:40, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

Drowned God FAC

Hey there. Do you have any interest in adding more comments to that FAC? It's got one support so far and seems to be making decent progress. Anything else you could add would be appreciated. Thanks. —Torchiest talkedits 15:42, 21 November 2012 (UTC)


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Bot Trial Complete of AnkitAWB. Ankit MaityTalkContribs 16:11, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

False Positive Calculated for User:VoxelBot

Hello Hellknowz! Thanks for taking the time to review our bot. We've let our report run for a while and then counted the false positives produced. (We also added diffs, the recent entries in the log will have links at the end). I posted the results at our BRFA, and if you could have a look that would be great. Thanks again! Vacationnine 20:38, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

Removal of BAG Assistance Template

Hello Hellknowz. I would like to know why you removed our BAG template when we completed our second (quick) trial and didn't receive a response for a day. I thought this warranted a tag. The template says it shouldn't be placed before every comment, which we haven't done. I've seen some great bot owners do the exact same thing. (I believe it was Cobi?) And I thought you weren't supposed to modify other users' talk page comments? You're only supposed to Tlx the template when you have addressed it. The least you could have done is addressed it on my talk page first. Vacationnine 12:31, 10 January 2013 (UTC)

The template is supposed to be used when the BRFA receives no attention for a prolonged time (1+ week) or requires urgent attention, which is the issues that "addressing it" implies. It basically means "stop what you're doing and pay attention to this over other BRFAs", which is why I looked at your BRFA first thing in the morning. In addition, this template makes the bot update the BRFA table with a note about the urgent tag. This is not the case with your BRFA, which is very active and has had comments as recently as a day ago.
It is common practice to disable or remove it whenever it has been addressed (same with user notification template) or wrongly placed; that's not modifying another user's message. Pretty sure I've replied and disabled the tag on all BRFAs I've come across and had time to comment on. Completing a trial is the one thing after which this template gets placed way too often. I did leave a descriptive edit summary, sorry if you feel that this needed an extended explanation that I did not provide. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 15:16, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Alright, I understand. You could have at least notified when you did it though. Thanks for all your help and for approving the bot though. Vacation9 03:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

GamesTM Sandbox Games articles

Regarding User_talk:Hahnchen#games_TM_sandbox_features, send me an email so I can send you the scans. - hahnchen 01:45, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Journey FAC

Hey, a couple weeks ago you commented on the FAC for Journey; would you consider coming back to support/oppose/comment some more? Thanks! --PresN 20:11, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much for returning; I think I've addressed all of your comments now. --PresN 19:58, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

God of War FAC

Hey, if you have time, could you review God of War (video game)? --JDC808 20:52, 26 January 2013 (UTC)

H3llbot code for parsing refs

Hi there, I see you operate H3llbot, which recovers orphaned refs. I'm interested in developing bot code that does general ref parsing. Is the code for that part publicly available? From your bot approvals it looks like it's coded in C# (I am looking for Python)? Any help appreciated! Cheers... Zad68 15:21, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I don't recover orphaned references, that's User:AnomieBOT, I think their code may be available. Mine is tied to bunch of other stuff, including WP:Article Alerts, so I can't split it easily, nor do I really have that much time lately (the bot hasn't run for a while). And yes, it's all C#. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 16:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
Ah! OK, sorry for the bother and thanks for the reply. Zad68 16:06, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Mention on bot requests page

Hi Hellknowz. Sorry to ignore the instruction above, but I figured this is more of a personal message for you than it is a public message about your bot. I've left a proposal that concerns AAlertBot at Wikipedia:Bot requests/Archive 54#Merge requests by subject, and I'd be grateful if you can comment over there about whether it is a good idea, and how much of my proposal would be workable. Best regards — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 09:08, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey. See also Wikipedia_talk:Article_alerts/Feature_requests#Mergers_and_Splits. The thing is, AAB is not for long-term items, but for short-term workflows. Merges have backlog from like 3 years ago. That's 3 years the entry would be on the list if no one fixes it. In addition, there are 10k articles to be merged, that's twice as many as all other workflows combined. But I guess I will look into it, see how many pages reports get and such. I might just not make full entries for merges, but just a list of page links. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 10:46, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
Yep, my idea was that if AAB is going to list them, then it would only list the new ones, and then delist them after a week or something, even if they hadn't been resolved. And not only for merges, but for all cleanup tags. It's obviously not a good idea to make alerts for, say, all unreferenced articles under a WikiProject's scope. But I think it would be worthwhile to create alerts for all articles under a WikiProject's scope that have been tagged as unreferenced in the last week or so. Again, I am only throwing out ideas at the moment, so if you think it's a totally stupid idea, that's fine. :) I thought of AAB because it already has a well-tested and widely used notification system, but I suppose it might make more sense to generate lists of articles newly-tagged for cleanup using a bot that is dealing with those categories anyway. I can certainly appreciate that the size of the categories involved is on a different level when we are talking about cleanup (I see we have 235,000 unreferenced articles at the moment). Do you think this would need to be built on completely different technology, or is there some way we can avoid duplication of effort here? — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:53, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
AAB does a lot of page processing to provide all the up-to-date details on each entry. This will certainly kill the bot at 10k+ entries. But AAB is by design working with small subsets of pages and reporting them thoroughly. Cleanup listings are really best suited for, well, cleanup listings. And maintenance tags are more often than not just drive-by tagging, so they bring little to no benefit to report followers. They don't have an expiry date, no requirement to act upon or close, or even strict guidelines of how to apply. The articles are also in no danger of deletion or unwarranted promotion/demotion. Article Alerts are really that -- important alerts. As I said, I'll think about merges/splits, but anything less "important" is probably not AA material. —  HELLKNOWZ  ▎TALK 18:58, 7 May 2013 (UTC)