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Saying hello & could use some help re: Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative music[edit]

I am editing articles in need of editing on this WikiProject as part of a class assignment. I would love feedback, advice or any other tips of the trade involving Wikipedia. Thank you! --Dg0959a (talk) 01:07, 8 February 2015 (UTC)


New Wave songs[edit]

Because the "Artist songs" categories were already filed in Category:New Wave songs. There's no need for a song to be in Category:New Wave songs and Category:Duran Duran songs, for example, if Category:Duran Duran songs is itself sitting in Category:New Wave songs. Bearcat (talk) 00:27, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

New Wave List - Request You Slow Down[edit]

Even though what you are doing is being done in good faith adding 20 items to a list per day borders on disruptive editing. I like to verify new entries to see that they have reliable citing for the claim they are "New Wave". Hopefully they have in their article usually they don't. If I have the time I like to check to see if reliable citing can be found. If I can't although by Wikipedia rules I can delete an item immediately I like to give people a month or two to find it so most of the time I will give a warning. The only thing I will delete immediately is post 1980's acts since that falls more under revival and this list as currently structured is about the original era. Although I like to do this it is important to note that it the responsibility of person who adds an item to find a proper citing for it. If you keep on adding 20 items a day I won't have the time to do this and may just decide to delete them all which would be a shame because you have found some good obscure/forgotten acts(which unfortunately makes it harder to find citing).

What the hell New wave is, is always very debatable. If you have a view on what type of group should be on the list please use the talk page to discuss it. I noticed you are living in London are you a native of Great Britain? The reason I ask your view of what New Wave is very broad and much more typical of some Americans. I have never run into a British editor or reliable source that considers Synthpop, Alternative/Indie, Post-Punk to be New Wave. Edkollin (talk) 21:47, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

WP:Reliable Sources. Basically what they tell you is that academic sources have the highest rankings but they are hard to find for pop music acts. Music journalists who have written books or write for mainstream or non-tabloid media (New York Times, Times of London, BBC, NBC etc) are considered reliable. Tabloid media is frowned upon. Websites in general particularly fan and band websites are considered unreliable. Any type of social media or personal blogs are considered unreliable. Allmusic is considered a reliable website. Wikipedia is considered unreliable by the way. If the Wikipedia article for the group has reliable sourcing for that claims they are New Wave or a sub genre of New Wave I usually don't bother adding the cite to the list. What makes this difficult and non clear cut is as I alluded to above there is substantial disagreement even among reliable sources about what constitutes New Wave. I would definitely read the New Wave Music Wikipedia article and the articles cited in that article to get a sense of things.

Basically when you consider sources should treat it as you would if you were writing a research paper. Edkollin (talk) 22:16, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Good new additions to the list Edkollin (talk) 08:27, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Some of the April 26 additions based on article with no sourcing or unreliable sourcing such as fan or record company websites. If you want to add groups it is your responsibility to check the sourcing in the groups article to see if it is there or reliable. If not add a reliable cite or leave the group off the list. Edkollin (talk) 22:09, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Nomination of Dreamhouse (band) for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Dreamhouse (band) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dreamhouse (band) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Pesky (talkstalk!) 05:57, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Modern Eon for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Modern Eon is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Philippine WikiCon[edit]

You are invited to the 3rd Philippine Wiki Conference (WikiCon) on May 26, 2012 9am-1pm at the co.lab.exchange in Pasig City. Please fill this form should you signify interest. --Exec8 (talk) 17:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Some baklava for you![edit]

Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG thanks a lot for polishing up dzmz :) Yummy hunny (talk) 01:11, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Question[edit]

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Hiya,

I saw that you removed the lyrics I put in Build Me Up, Buttercup. I don't care a whole lot either way, but I was confused by your note that they were "non-encyclopedic".

If you meant that in a general sense as in "this looks unprofessional," I guess everyone's got a right to their opinion.

If you meant that in a cultural way, as in "other Wikipedia song entries do not have lyrics, so this one shouldn't either," then I must look at what never was and ask "why not?"

If you meant that literally, as in "this information does not belong in an encyclopedia entry about the song" then I don't understand your definition of encyclopedic. "Comprehensive in terms of information" is the one I'm going by, comprehensive meaning "complete." The lyrics are information that is not just important but intrinsic to the song. And yes, to anticipate an argument, so is the sheet music, sure. And an .mp3 file? Why the heck not! Of course, you couldn't get the rights to post those things... but that doesn't change the definition of "comprehensive".

Genuinely curious,

Grammargal Grammargal (talk) 01:46, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Aha! Got it.[edit]

Hi Hiddenstranger,

Thanks for your answer -- the content policy was what I was looking for. One of the reasons I posted the lyrics is that there is a surprisingly sophisticated internal rhyme scheme instead of the standard ABAB pop structure. Which, I suppose, might make a good addition to the page -- so I'll do it that way. Thanks again! GG — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grammargal (talkcontribs) 15:38, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Proposed blackout in protest of RA 10175[edit]

Dear Hiddenstranger,

Greetings!

As a Filipino Wikipedian, I hope you are aware of the passage of Republic Act No. 10175, also known as the Cybercrime Prevention Act of 2012, which was signed into law by President Benigno Aquino III on September 12, 2012. Currently, there is a discussion on the Tambayan, the noticeboard for Philippines-related topics, about a proposed blackout of the English Wikipedia in the Philippines in order to protest the passage of RA 10175, similar to the blackout against SOPA and PIPA held earlier this year. I feel that your input on the subject will definitely help in the discussion.

Please feel free to participate in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines#The Cybercrime Prevention Act, and I hope your input will help the Filipino Wikipedia community determine which is the best course of action against this law. Similarly, we hope to get as much input from as many Wikipedians as possible.

Thank you and maraming salamat po!

Kind regards,

Sky Harbor (talk) 04:33, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Synthpop New Wave groups - You were right[edit]

Hello,
As you probably know, the discussion regarding Category:Synthpop New Wave musical groups has been closed. I can say that my opinions about this category have changed and I support its existence on Wikipedia. Nevertheless, I still think that the category may be renamed with a more appropriate sounding name or the modern electropop bands may be seperated with an independent category. I just wanted to know your opinions on that as you've created the regarding category. I'd will be grateful if you would share your them. Thank you. Myxomatosis75 (talk) 20:51, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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Hello, Hiddenstranger. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of soft rock artists and songs.
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RadioFan (talk) 12:03, 31 July 2013 (UTC)

Voyage (Band)[edit]

Hi Hiddenstranger,

Thanks for your contributions about Voyage (band), my English is limited and your help is welcome. Thanks a lot. Cordially St-Denis (talk) 12:39, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi[edit]

You are more than welcome to check out Eva Rydberg and Kvitt eller dubbelt as well. Regards,--BabbaQ (talk) 22:25, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

March 2014[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Clark Datchler page[edit]

Hi,

I saw you removed my edits on Clark Datchler's page. I added links to Discogs in the singles sections and added two more singles to the lists. Did I do anything wrong? Was it the discogs links that are not ok for Wiki? In case I apologize. The two singles added are actually official. Thanks in advance --Cat italia (talk) 13:02, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Edit: I saw your notes: I added the singles back without links. Hope it's ok. Thanks for your help --Cat italia (talk) 13:09, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Soliciting comment...[edit]

Hi! Would you care to review my FA nomination for the article Of Human Feelings? The article is about a jazz album by Ornette Coleman, and the criteria for FA articles is at WP:FACR. If not, feel free to ignore this message. Cheers! Dan56 (talk) 05:13, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Editathon and Meetup invitations[edit]