User talk:Hillrhpc

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Radio station cat sorting[edit]

Hi! Refering to this edit, is there some doctrine by which the first letter of the radio station sometimes gets omitted by category sorting and sometimes not? --zerofoks 09:11, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Whether or not to soft radio station callsign names by the first letter or the second letter is the subject of a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Radio Stations#Category sorting. I think that both types of sorting are going on. I look at the category listing and try to tell which type of sorting is prevalent. As a general rule, categories that are region, e.g., state or city, are sorted by the second letter, since otherwise all of the listings would begin with W or K. Categories that are global should, I think, be sorted by the first letter, since there would be lots of listings under many different letters. Categories that are national, i.e., U.S. tend to be a mixed bag. I guess a case could be made that my edit was unnecessary. "Category:College radio stations in the United States" seems to be generally sorted by first letter, so I tried to be consistent. However, "Category:Freeform radio stations" should be global in scope, so I would think that first letter sorting should be prevail, but in looking at the listings in the category, I see that they are consistently sorted by second letter. I hope that some rule is promulgated to settle this.--Hillrhpc 22:08, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Well, I believe the naming format of WXYZ, KXYZ, CXY, etc. is mostly a North-American phenomenon. European radio stations do not have such a rigid naming system, see de:Kategorie:Hörfunksender. I believe the best approach would be to sort by second letter only if there are no articles about stations that have a different naming system in WXYZ, KXYZ, CXY, etc. in that specific category (as in Category:Freeform radio stations right now).
I agree with your suggestion that categories should be sorted by the second letter only if all (or almost all) of the articles in the category have the same first letter. This will usually happen in regional U.S. radio station categories where all of the articles will usually start with a K or a W. Otherwise, the common rule should prevail that the articles are sorted by the first letter. --Hillrhpc 23:00, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Maybe I am missing some important element here, though: What do the oft-repeated initials of the American radio station names signify? --zerofoks 22:35, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
All radio stations in the world have a call sign which consists of a series of letters and numerals. (See the article Call sign.) The first letter or two of the call sign designates what country the radio station is located in (K or W for the U.S.). In the U.S. the governmental authority required that all radio stations identify themselves on the air by call sign twice an hour (at :00 and :30). For this reason, most people began to identify radio stations by their call signs, and the call signs became trademarks. Names came later, but the call sign identification custom prevails.--Hillrhpc 23:00, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Hey, that's cool to know, thanks. Elsewise, I think we are in agreement. --zerofoks 23:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Freeform radio or Freeform (radio format)[edit]

While I am at it... Do you think you could help me figure out which of the above Lemmata would be the better one and should be kept? --zerofoks 04:51, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

I guess it goes to whether the term of art is "Freeform" or "Freeform radio." From reading the articles and the external links cited in the articles, it appears that the term used is almost always "freeform radio." The word "freeform" is hardly ever used by itself. Therefore, it think that the best article title would be "Freeform radio."


Hi. Thanks for all your contributions to the Cleveland broadcast media articles. I just wanted to point out that the category guidelines say that "an article should not be in both a category and its subcategory." Therefore, articles listed in Category:Radio stations in Cleveland should not also appear in Category:Radio stations in Ohio, except for unusual cases like WKSU. Thanks! - EurekaLott 09:28, 18 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. I noticed the guideline after I had put all the radio stations on the Ohio category, and I had it on my list to change them so that they are only in the Cleveland category. I will fix it soon.--Hillrhpc 17:37, 18 December 2005 (UTC)


You mentioned on your WJER edit that you think it needs to be split (and wikified, which I can do, now that I have become familiar with Wikipedia.). I am going to have to respectfully disagree. Although WJER is two stations, it's really one body. has a logo on it showing WJER 1450 AM 101.7 FM. Local residents treat the two as one. However, I am not well-versed in the wikiguidelines for radio stations, so I will leave the decision up to you or someone with more experience. Miguel Cervantes 22:36, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

After looking at the station's website for more than a quick glance, I'm inclined to agree with you. I think both the AM and FM outlets should be in one article, at least until others raise some groundswell of opinion to the contrary. However, I did note one other problem when I looked at the station web site. It appears that you may have copied some of the article text wholesale from the web site. This is not good practice, and it may be a copyright violation. You can use the information on the web site for your article, but don't copy the wording.--Hillrhpc 15:11, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Oh. You're right. I'm afraid WJER was one of the first articles I made, and I was less experienced with the ways of Wikipedia. I even smacked a copyright violation on a page a few days ago, and now I have the embarassing predicament of being mildly guilty of the same thing. I will make sure to clean up the page (Both wiki-fication and original materializing) over the weekend. Thanks for pointing that out. Miguel Cervantes 22:21, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar Awarded!!![edit]

I award this Working Man's Barnstar to Hillrhpc for tireless and endless work on retagging pictures Kukini 05:13, 19 April 2006 (UTC)


I don't know what is going on with WJER. I don't listen to it during the summer. I will, however, give it a look. They might be getting ready to update the page. Who knows? Miguel Cervantes 16:24, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

This is interesting. I gave the page a look-see, and I found a few references to WJER FM. I think we should wait a week or two and see if anything happens.
I drove past the WJER offices, and the sign still said WJER 101.7 FM 1450 AM. Granted, that may be due to laziness. I'll keep on keeping a look out. Miguel Cervantes 16:57, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Help researching info on MIT graduate Ed Seykota[edit]

--Trade2tradewell 20:17, 22 June 2006 (UTC)I need help writing the article about Ed Seykota, I need help researching his time in MIT, I need access to MITs library. I want copies of his thesis, papers etc. I also need official documentation about his degrees at MIT. Please help.

trade2tradewell (at) yahoo (dot) com - Replace "at" with "@", and "(dot)" with "."


--Trade2tradewell 20:17, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Regarding edits made to WHK (AM)[edit]

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Non-free use disputed for Image:RadioDisney1260logo.png[edit]

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Please note that, while this image has been tagged as being uploaded after 4 May 2006, it was, in fact uploaded on 17 April 2006. I don't know if this makes any difference, but it has been incorrectly tagged for deletion.Hillrhpc 00:34, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


Apologies, mistagged, hopefully now resolved. In taggging a lot of images a few mistakes can be made, I'll try not to make any more. ShakespeareFan00 10:04, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Hmm, Have checked image, concerned. I taged it as disputed over the absence

of a rationale. It was NOT me that tagged it NRD, sugest you have words with the user that did tag it NRD, because as you rightly pointed out it wa suploade prior to the new poilcy. The image in question now HAS as a rationale rendering this moot. ShakespeareFan00 10:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

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Some nice person has created a really nice SVG image to take its place, so there is no reason to try to save the old PNG image I made.--Hillrhpc 15:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Warrensville (RTA Blue Line Rapid Transit station)[edit]

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Good job[edit]

I have a lot of greater cleveland stuff on my watchlist, and you constantly appear on it. Great job editing! SpencerT♦C 02:51, 10 May 2008 (UTC)


I have a question though. Why are you changing coor template to coord templates? On WT:GEO there was no consensus when a discussion for preference arose. SpencerT♦C 21:35, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Two reasons. According to the coord template documentation, the coor template supersedes the coord template. Also, the coord template allows the template to be inserted in one place in the article (like the infobox) and appear both there and in the title (so that it will be picked up by Google Earth and such). With the coor template, you had to put two templates into the article to accomplish this, and there was always the chance that the coordinates inserted in them wouldn't match (because, for example, someone would change one and not the other). I try not making a point of going in and editing articles just to change them, but when I edit articles for other reasons, I change this as well. (I did change one or two articles just for the template to see how liked it.)Hillrhpc (talk) 14:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't take two templates though...There's the {{coor at d}}, {{coor at dm}}, and {{coor at dms}} templates, which simultaneuosly add title and inline coordinates, using several characters of text less. SpencerT♦C 01:09, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
I notice that as of last September, the coord template was used far more often than the coor at template. I really don't have a strong preference one way or the other, but I would prefer to use the template that gets the most use by others. There is the chance that the less used template could be orphaned someday. I take it that you strongly prefer the coor template.Hillrhpc (talk) 15:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, this was a bit late, but yes, I do. SpencerT♦C 16:31, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

An invitation to join WikiProject Ohio[edit]

WBNK Radio station[edit]

Hello, Hillrhpc! The WBNX page you started, and subsequently did a redirect for WBNX-TV, is incorrect. The radio station you refer to is actually WBNK, not WBNX. I can perfectly understand how this was misread from a list. I started to make some corrections so readers wouldn't get confused, but since you created that stub I thought it would be more considerate of me to allow you to correct the whole thing by making sure WBNK gets it own page. There is only one WBNX in existance according to the FCC and that is the television station broadcasting in Ohio. (Television Week (talk) 19:54, 18 February 2009 (UTC))

The first Wikipedian meetup in Ohio[edit]

Thanks! --Rkitko (talk) 20:20, 19 April 2009 (UTC)