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Hello, Hsmukler! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. You may benefit from following some of the links below, which will help you get the most out of Wikipedia. If you have any questions you can ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking or by typing four tildes "~~~~"; this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you are already loving Wikipedia you might want to consider being "adopted" by a more experienced editor or joining a WikiProject to collaborate with others in creating and improving articles of your interest. Click here for a directory of all the WikiProjects. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Happy editing! PLUMBAGO 21:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Cydonia Mensae[edit]

Hi Hsmukler. Just a short note to say that I've responded to your message over at Cydonia Mensae. Best regards, --PLUMBAGO 21:30, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

FYI: Conflict of interest policy[edit]

If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

  1. editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
  2. participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors;
  3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam); and,
  4. avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for businesses. For more details about what, exactly, constitutes a conflict of interest, please see our conflict of interest guidelines. Thank you. --Ronz (talk) 22:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hsmukler. Echoing Ronz, one does need to be extremely careful adding or editing material that relates to yourself, or your organisation, and I should have mentioned this in my original response to you over at Cydonia Mensae's talkpage. Regarding the specifics of the Ancient Astronauts piece, I've now added the citation that you provided to the article. Thanks very much for that information! Best regards, --PLUMBAGO 08:47, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Smukler book[edit]

I see that you've added a new section "Also See" to a lot of articles, linking to a non-standardly formatted record of a book by Maya Montanez Smukler.

There are a lot of problems here.

Firstly, if you are M M Smukler yourself, or a family member or other close associate, you shouldn't be adding all these links as it looks like a promotional project.

Secondly, the section heading would be "See also" (only one capital, that order), except that the "See also" section is for links to other Wikipedia articles. The appropriate heading for a new book with additional content about the topic would be "Further reading". The formatting for the book reference is also far from ideal, and you omit the isbn which is one of the key bits of information people need (and which can be linked, within Wikipedia, to a page linking to libraries worldwide). See the change I made to Women’s Steering Committee of the Director’s Guild of America, where I renamed the section heading and formatted the book citation. (That article is on my watchlist, which is what led me to notice your edits).

Thirdly, it would be much more useful if you could specify the chapter name and pages which are relevant to each person, rather than just dumping a standard link to the book. (In the "cite book" template I've used, you can add something like "|chapter=Jane Bloggs | pages=52-55" to show this information.)

It may well be that some other editor decides to remove all of your additions as purely promotional. Please read WP:COI, which explains Wikipedia's Conflict of Interest rules: you should not be promoting a publication by yourself or a member of your family.

PamD 20:33, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

--Ronz (talk) 21:09, 9 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Editing with a conflict of interest[edit]

Hi Hsmukler. Thanks for your message. You need to follow Wikipedia's conflict of interest policies. A short and simple introduction to these policies can be found at Wikipedia:Help available for editors with conflicts of interest.

It's best to disclose your coi and use article talk pages to suggest changes.

I recommend you avoid any suggestions of adding "Further reading", "See also", or "External links" entries entirely. Instead focus on verifying information in articles, improving accuracy, and expanding encyclopedic content.

I hope you find this helpful. --Ronz (talk) 16:13, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Glad to help. The Smukler book appears to be of the high-quality that's required, though hard to find, for biographical information. I'd expect that it could be used to verify important information related to the notability of articles' subjects. --Ronz (talk) 20:47, 10 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It looks as if you haven't understood how to use {{request edit}}. It goes on the talk page, not in an edit summary to a COI edit to an article. And the changes I made earlier to Women’s Steering Committee of the Director’s Guild of America showed you the standard Wikipedia way to format a book citation: to recap, your enhanced version should ideally have been something like:
{{cite book| url=http://www.liberatinghollywood.com |last=Smukler|first=Maya Montañez | title=Liberating Hollywood: Women Directors and the Feminist Reform of 1970s | date=2018| publisher= Rutgers University Press| isbn= 978-0813587479 | chapter=Chapter 4: Radicalizing the Directors Guild of America| pages=232-277}}
which appears as:
Smukler, Maya Montañez (2018). "Chapter 4: Radicalizing the Directors Guild of America". Liberating Hollywood: Women Directors and the Feminist Reform of 1970s. Rutgers University Press. pp. 232–277. ISBN 978-0813587479.
rather than your version which didn't use the {{cite book}} template and had a rather clumsy-looking link covering both author and title. Using the standard templates makes it easier for various bits of software to search for, or manipulate, the data, and produces a nicely-formatted output. PamD 23:16, 11 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks PamD, I understand the "cite book" suggestion. HOW DO I PUT IN A BULLET IN FRONT OF THE HEADINGHsmukler (talk) 16:21, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

PamD, sorry but I can't figure out where the "request edit" goes. I see the talk button on the applicable site, but can't figure out how to put in my request. Can you walk me through it. Now that you know me and I've disclosed my conflict, can I move on and not do this every time?Hsmukler (talk) 19:31, 12 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

To add a new discussion to a an article's talk page: Press the "Talk" tab of an article. This will navigate you to the article's talk page. Then press "New section" to start a new discussion. Place your edit request there. --Ronz (talk) 14:56, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]