User talk:Htonl

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Hi Htonl. Firstly, all the best fot the new year. I am curious about this move, which you say was done as per naming convention. Which convention specifically? Does it not make more sense to say "Pomfret (South Africa)"? Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 01:46, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi Rui, the naming convention is documented at WP:PLACE under the "South Africa" heading: "Where possible, articles on places in South Africa use [[placename]]. Where disambiguation is required, [[placename, province]] is used." One could argue that "placename, South Africa" would be better, but there are actually a number of place names duplicated across multiple provinces. - htonl (talk) 08:16, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, Htonl. I guess then that's how it is. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 10:19, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

Children's Act, 2005[edit]


Just a quick note to mention that the article Children's Act, 2005 had been reviewed Access to review notes here, as part of Wikipedia Primary School Research Project. Feedback welcome ! Since you are the primary author of that page... Cheers Anthere (talk)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Just wanted to say thanks for correcting the South African election dates. I'm amazed they were incorrect, and wonder how the incorrect dates were added i the first place! Number 57 14:53, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

M1 road (Johannesburg)[edit]

Hi Htonl,

I am attempting to add an infobox road to the article, M1 road (Johannesburg), currently in my sandbox. When adding junctions using as example {{Jct|country=ZAF|M|31}} Atholl-Oaklands Road, M roads and its icon are showing as an "Invalid type", where as all N and R road icons work fine. When entering the country code, type and route, the following error also appears, [[File:|75x70px|alt=Metropolitan route M2 shield]] Metropolitan route M2. Any suggestions for a fix? Or does a new image have to drawn?

I will also be adding additional historical information concerning the planning and building of the motorway.

Regards Paul Conlinp (talk) 05:45, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Conlinp: that's because {{Jct}} and {{Infobox road}} don't recognize South African M roads. Luckily that is an easy fix. –Fredddie 21:02, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
@Fredddie: thanks for that. Is the road shield a bigger fix? Conlinp (talk) 04:15, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Metropolitan shields exist, but I'm not sure if they're right. –Fredddie 22:40, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
The shields are correct to the extent that they are drawn according to the SADC-RTSM description of a generic metropolitan route sign. However some cities have adopted their own unique signs, and Johannesburg is one of those cities - see for the design if you want to try and reproduce it. - htonl (talk) 00:18, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

@Conlinp: @Fredddie:: I've made shields for Joburg M1 and M2:

- htonl (talk) 10:59, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Nice, you beat me to it. I'll add them to the Jct module and Infobox road subtemplate now. –Fredddie 21:42, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
This works now. –Fredddie 21:51, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
I created the "JM" type for Johannesburg metropolitan routes that way Jct and Infobox road use the same terminology. –Fredddie 22:05, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
@Fredddie:: Thanks everyone for that it looks good. Will now work on both articles. Conlinp (talk) 08:27, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

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Would love to see more of you at Wikivoyage. The Cape Town article, for example, has lots of broken links for accommodation and attractions etc, and local knowledge would help determine which places have closed and which have merely changed URLs. Nurg (talk) 01:43, 6 June 2016 (UTC)


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Why do you keep reverting my edits? Huh?? HUH?????[edit]

Why do you keep reverting my edits? Huh?? HUH????? Johnsc1277 (talk) 21:52, 20 August 2016 (UTC)

If you want to discuss the article, discuss it on the talk page. - htonl (talk) 01:18, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
The user has been indef blocked. --Ebyabe talk - General Health ‖ 18:13, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. - htonl (talk) 19:50, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

South African republic referendum, 1960[edit]

Thanks for dealing with the vandalism on South African republic referendum, 1960. It's an interesting topic and I've been expanding it to cover the different perspectives; looking back the issues of monarchy vs republic, white unity and Commonwealth membership seem strange, but it's all about the context of the time.

Nowadays, if a Commonwealth realm became a republic, it wouldn't be required to reapply for membership, and despite what some people think, the Commonwealth isn't going to be revived as a trade bloc in the wake of the UK voting to leave the EU. South Africa survived outside the Commonwealth economically because it had gold and diamonds, but how the UK is going to survive outside the European Economic Area is a different story. Polemicista (talk) 17:49, 15 October 2016 (UTC)

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File:Transnet Freight Rail logo.gif listed for discussion[edit]


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Wikimaps User Group[edit]

Hi Htonl, since you have an interest in maps I though you might like to know about the newly created Wikimaps User Group.--Discott (talk) 14:44, 8 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, yes, definitely something I am interested in! Cheers, htonl (talk) 14:54, 8 March 2017 (UTC)