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01:57:27, 1 October 2017 review of submission by Reedko64[edit]



Just wondering what factual errors you are referring to because I don't see any.

Let's take the very first sentence: Arthur Daniel "Dan" O'Neal ( born May 15, 1938) is the former Chairman of both the Washington State Transportation Commission and the (U.S.) Interstate Commerce Commission, and has served in like capacity throughout his life. That is factually correct? He has served in like capacity at age 3? At age 18? Is he serving in like capacity right now? I don't think the answer to any of those questions is "yes", so he clearly has not served in like capacity throughout his life. Hyping up his importance got in the way of factual accuracy. Huon (talk) 09:40, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

I see, I've made some source adds, too. Thanks!

Your recent edits[edit]

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Hello! There is a DR/N request you may have interest in.[edit]

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Talk:John B. Prescott#Paid editors[edit]

Thanks, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:37, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Live chat[edit]

I am sorry about not listening I am just learning how to use wikipedia so can you please unblock me I am sorry --SparkyHelper (talk) 01:32, 6 October 2017 (UTC) SparkyHelper (talk) 01:32, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you![edit]

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Stop reverting my edits[edit]

Stop reverting my edits. They were not vandalism or disruptive. —Ecstatic Electrical, 23:25, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

@Ecstatic Electrical: They weren't vandalism, but they weren't helpful either.
  • At Atlantic hurricane and Pacific hurricane you removed some hatnotes and replaced them with less helpful ones. Is it necessary to point out that an article entitled "Atlantic hurricanes" is not about hurricanes in general but ones in the Atlantic? Why should there be no link to the "Atlantic hurricane season" article, and why would the link to the current hurricane season need to be made in a way that requires yearly manual updates? Has the update to "Atlantic hurricane" for which there was a hatnote been made? And why do you think it's more likely that people might be confused between Atlantic and Pacific at than by whether they're looking at the northern or southern hemisphere?
  • The original image at lightning didn't just show a single lightning bolt but four. It's far more impressive than the image you added. Also, it's not watermarked.
  • At waterspout and firestorm I don't think there's a significant risk of confusion with the articles you added to hatnotes. In particular, waterspouts can't be "confused with" tornadoes because they are tornadoes. Why do you think people might confuse firestorms with wildfires?
If you prefer, we can discuss the specifics at each article's talk page; I still maintain that none of those edits were helpful and that they all should be reverted. Huon (talk) 23:43, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
I’m going to reply to each of your posts one by one.
  • Is it necessary to point out that an article entitled "Atlantic hurricanes" is not about hurricanes in general but ones in the Atlantic? — Yes. Some people may not be aware that Pacific Hurricanes even exist, as in the Pacific they are often called typhoons by the locals there. As such, someone who isn’t a local of the Pacific region may not make the connection between hurricanes and typhoons, and may think that hurricanes only exist in the Atlantic.
  • Why should there be no link to the "Atlantic hurricane season" article, and why would the link to the current hurricane season need to be made in a way that requires yearly manual updates? — For the first point, I accidentally removed the link to the Atlantic Hurricane season article. For the second point, what you do mean? I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make.
  • Has the update to "Atlantic hurricane" for which there was a hatnote been made? — I didn’t notice a hatenote for an update to the article. What did that hatnote look like? Or even better, what was the name of the hatnote template?
  • And why do you think it's more likely that people might be confused between Atlantic and Pacific at than by whether they're looking at the northern or southern hemisphere? — Same reason as my first point regarding hurricanes versus typhoons.
  • The original image at lightning didn't just show a single lightning bolt but four. It's far more impressive than the image you added. — the second part of that statement is just simply not true. It is highly unusal to see four lightening bolts all striking the same location at the same time. You only see that in an extreme severe storm or other freak condition like that. Images in articles shouldn’t be based on what is considered “impressive” but rather be based on what is most commonly observed/seen.
  • Why do you think people might confuse firestorms with wildfires? — the names are similar, and in fact, a firestorm for someone who doens’t know what one actually is could mean literally “a storm of fire”. A wildfire is also a storm of fire, because the flames burn across and destroy the land rather than the rain and wind blowing across and washing away the land. Additionally, any two similar phenomenons with similar names may be confused by someone who isn’t paying close attention. —Ecstatic Electrical, 18:59, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
OK, I'll take this to the various articles' talk pages so interested people there can comment, too; it's getting too detailed for my user talk page. Suffice it to say here that I disagree with most of your points. Huon (talk) 19:34, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Alexandru I. Lapedatu[edit]

Dear Huon, here is the answer I already sent to your colleague: thanks for your answer. I understand the policy, and it makes sense. It is true that the name of this person has been written in various forms, and recently several publications tend to use the simplified form of his name, omitting the father initial (I.). The prime references we use, like the volume published in his (and his twin brother's honour) in 1936 names him Alexandru I. Lapedatu (reference Crăciun, I.: “Alex. I. Lapedatu. Note bio-bibliografice / Alex. I. Lapedatu. Bio-Bibliographical Notes). Likewise, the medal minted in 1936 in his honour is also writing his name "Alexandru I. Lapedatu" - we intend to add it as an illustration at some point. Furthermore, the article in his native language (Romanian) uses as title the form "Alexandru I. Lapedatu". Interestingly enough, his twin brother conserved the father's initial even in Wikipedia, and is named "Ion I. Lapedatu" even in recent publications, probably because his father was also Ioan Lapedatu - the initial helps keeping them apart. Our strong preference is obviously to write the names of the two twin brothers in a similar manner, and would appreciate if you would agree with us - but we understand that this is not the only possible viewpoint. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ioana Maior (talkcontribs) 21:33, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

@Ioana Maior: I had checked three references at random, in addition to those that already had "Alexandru Lapedatu" in the title. None of them used the middle initial. Now I checked some additional ones - again they all, without exception, referred to him as "Alexandru Lapedatu". It's possible that sources refer to twin brothers in different ways, but I don't see that the middle initial is commonly used to refer to Alexandru. Thus people looking for him on Wikipedia will likely also expect his name to be written without a middle initial. Huon (talk) 22:55, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

OK, thanks--Ioana Maior (talk) 22:00, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

COI Help[edit]

Hi Huon. I have disclosed a COI with Forcepoint (an IT Security company), shared a draft that would bring it up to GA standards, and introduced myself here. I was wondering if you had a minute to contribute either by reviewing the proposed draft, or suggesting some other her process you feel is most appropriate. No one on has responded on the Talk page. Your help is much appreciated in advance if you take the time to chip-in. CorporateM (Talk) 12:51, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

@CorporateM: You may want to ask someone else. I'm not interested in the topic and am distracted by perrsonal issues; I can't guarantee any competent advice at this point. Maybe the people at WT:WikiProject Computer Security or the more general WT:WikiProject Computing can help you. Huon (talk) 13:22, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

15:55:38, 11 October 2017 review of submission by Reedko64[edit]


Removed factual error. Reformatted, added sources.

@Reedko64: The draft is submitted for another review. I'll let someone else take another look at it. I would advise you to remove all the non-independent sources - press releases, his own companies' websites and so on - and to focus on what third-party sources have to say about O'Neal. Huon (talk) 17:20, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

For you[edit]

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I am not quite sure how I crossed paths with you, it really is not important, but I sat down (actually was already sitting) and read through series of edits where you were explaining, or trying to explain to some new editor how he (or she, but it seemed like a guy) was messing up again and again and you just hung into there until he got himself blocked, though not, I think, through you. I was impressed so decided to make it public. You did good (well). Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 05:32, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

User:Scott19982/P0404[edit]

I am confused and disappointed to see that you have unblocked User:P0404. I and others have spent many hours having to revert and correct his broken, incorrect, and at times outright malicious edits. His promises should mean nothing - he has repeatedly lied on talk pages about his abuse of multiple accounts, and I have no doubt that he said whatever he thought would get him unblocked without any intention of following through. His edits since being unblocked have been exactly the same type of disruptive edits as before. This includes creating a sourceless article with broken templates and poor writing, adding an unsourced, improperly capitalized, and somewhat incorrect claim to an article, and exactly zero edit summaries. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 02:22, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

I'm sorry Pi.1415926535 I read it online and that is what it said I'm sorry for any inconveniences that I've caused you — Preceding unsigned comment added by P0404 (talkcontribs) 04:14, October 13, 2017 (UTC)
@Pi.1415926535: Unfortunately I have to agree. I'm sorry to see it didn't work out, but they said they'd fix the problems with their editing (and not just in the general "I know what I did wrong, please unblock me" way), so I thought giving them some rope and watching their conduct would be appropriate. Huon (talk) 06:12, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for all the effort you put in here, and I'm sorry that it didn't work out. I really appreciate your patience and trust as an admin; as a cynical grump some of the time, I'm well aware that the encyclopedia needs friendlier faces than meas well. Cheers, Pi.1415926535 (talk) 03:10, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

Pretty sure your English is better than that...[edit]

You may find this edit interesting... Yunshui  08:56, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for helping everyone in the en-help IRC chat. Bobherry Talk Edits 13:38, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Autoblocks[edit]

Thanks for your input and for getting the template resolved :-) See WP:VPT#IPBE and autoblocks if you have any further comments. Nyttend (talk) 22:48, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Just FYI[edit]

Anon-IP vandal 83.31.45.193 templated my user talk page and signed with your signature. I reverted it and didn't believe for a second that it was actually you. (I don't know why s/he/it chose either of us.) – Athaenara 14:11, 15 October 2017 (UTC)