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Just thought I'd let you know that I've replaced your Quincunx.png with an SVG, Quincunx.svg. —Wereon 21:56, 19 February 2006 (UTC)


Updated DYK query Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article Margaret Brundage, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

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More help retrieving code[edit]

Thank you for helping me retrieve the code for userbox Template:User Catholic Evangelical. It was helpful. I presume by your ability to help that you are an admin (though I can't find that claim on your userpage). If you can, would you please help me retrieve the code for Template:User Reformed Baptist. The major thing I lack in recreating it on my userpage are the colors, and size of text. Thanks.
 IS Guðsþegn – UTCE – 23:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Oldest language[edit]

Thanks for your great work on this article—you are the man. You might want to formally change your original vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Oldest Language, just in case the closing admin isn't sharp-eyed enough to notice that you changed your mind. rodii 15:55, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Help with Latin and Law[edit]

You look pretty busy already, but I was wondering if you'd lend a hand to the Lex Papia Poppaea article. There are a lot of Latin and legal terms that need to be clarified for the average user. I've done some cleanup on it, but I'm heistant to do much more. Thanks! --Kerowyn 02:27, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for addition to magic ring[edit]

Thanks for adding Plato's fable/folk-tale about the Ring of Gyges to the magic ring article. Tom Lougheed 02:56, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Turkish literature peer review[edit]

Hello. I've noticed that you have an interest in literature, and that is why I am leaving you a message. I have recently entirely rewritten the Turkish literature article with a view to getting it up to Featured Article status, and have placed the article up for peer review. If you could possibly take the time to look at and review the article, I would greatly appreciate it. If not, thank you for taking the time to read this message. Saposcat 09:55, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

real punk[edit]

Hello, I have noticed you use the punk-fan userbox. You may be also interested using {{user realpunk}}, which look like this:

Anarchy-symbol.svg This user appreciates real punk music.

If you want to comment me, use my talk page please. psychomelo(discussion) 20:58, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


I have deleted Image:EmileNelligan.JPG, from which you removed the no source tag without specifying a source. I'm sure you meant well, but I'd like to point out that a drawing does not necessarily have to have been made during the lifetime of its subject, so there's no way to know the copyright status of that image without knowing its source. We require a source for all images, regardless of copyright status. As it happens, that image was uploaded by indefinitely blocked user JillandJack, who is a reincarnation of User:DW, a user hard-banned multiple times under different usernames (see those two user pages for details). I encourage you to find a proper illustration for Émile Nelligan, but it will be better for the article itself if the image doesn't have that username attached to it. Thanks. Chick Bowen 21:43, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm not accusing your actions at all, I'm just defending mine--I was actually encouraged to delete everything JillandJack uploaded, on the grounds that this person had already been banned before that account was created. The ideal situation is for a new image to be uploaded, and I'm very glad you're planning to do so. Thanks. Chick Bowen 15:25, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Natalie Barney's hat[edit]

I have a .jpg of a painting, "Natalie in Fur Cape", 1905 by Alice Pike Barney, in which she is wearing a similarly ludicrous hat, but is slightly happier. It might make a nice addition to the article, but I'm not sure: is a 1905 painting pretty clearly in the public domain? If so, I could upload it and you could see if you like it. I also have a rather nice, though faded, photo (.gif) of her in her older days, in no hat and looking rather impish in an embroidered robe, but I suspect that the copyright on that is still valid. - Nunh-huh 23:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Here she is then: Natalie Barney in Fur Cape.jpg. Please add it to the article if you think it's worthwhile! -Nunh-huh 00:22, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Mohammed's sexual orientation[edit]

Can you or I remove the deleted page tag? I say this for a few reasons... it was never recreated so I don't see a need for it having that... there is also no consensus that an article about Muhammad's sexual orientation can't be created... granted I think it's a subject that might be impossible to do well and neutrally... but, there's no real consensus that we can ban its recreation... there may be some scholarly discussion of it that I am not privvy to. My point is... we should see what happens since it's not simple vandalism... if it becomes a problem page then we can protect it and put that template. Thanks. gren グレン 08:09, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Looking at the deletion log my deletion is the only one listed... is there a reason that others would be omitted? Well, in either case I don't suppose it's a big deal. gren グレン 19:14, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Request for mediation[edit]

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Re: Your lovely comments[edit]

Ihcoyc, thanks for your lovely comments at the mediation page. The controversy has preceded me and will outlast me. You know why? Because there's something objectively wrong with the title. I'm not the only one who recognizes that. I've been making my case based on the naming conventions and the objective criteria that they set out. You, on the other hand, are blatantly appealing to a "moral right" to the name "Catholic Church" -- and that type of subjective argumentation is out of bounds in a naming conflict. I didn't make the rules, but if we follow them for Church of Christ, there is no reason not to follow them for Catholic Church -- because the most common usage of that term, "Catholic Church", refers to that Church of which the Pope is head.

I am amused by your conspiracy theory and your unwillingness to assume good faith on the part of Catholics. I am a papist, and I will always be one. There is no reason for us to run away from the idea of the Pope; we love the successor of Peter and the Vicar of Christ on earth. The whole idea of being Catholic is that you are in communion with the Pope. If you want to create an article called papist Church or papal Church or popery or popish Church, and redirect it to Catholic Church, that is more than fine by me.

But the simple, objective facts of the matter are:

  1. the most common usage of the term "Catholic Church" refers to that Church of which the Pope is head.
  2. the most common way to refer to that Church of which the Pope is head is to say, "Catholic Church".
  3. the Church of which the Pope is head claims that very title ("Catholic Church") for itself.
  4. the title "Roman Catholic Church" is inaccurate insofar as it refers to a distinct particular Church within the universal Catholic Church, not the worldwide and visible Catholic Church of which the Pope is head. Not all Catholics in union with the Pope are "Roman" Catholics!
  5. we've dealt with these possible "ambiguities" before, and we settled them the exact way I am asking us to settle them. (Cf. Church of Christ, United Church of Christ, Church of Christ (disambiguation), International Churches of Christ, etc.)

We have every reason to move Roman Catholic Church to Catholic Church. If you are unwilling to play by the same rules for the Catholics as applied to every other religious group's article, then it is you with the massive POV problem, not me. --Hyphen5 15:29, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

urk... as a Catholic convert, I thought the big thrill was that we were in communion with Jesus, not the Pope. --Bluejay Young 16:24, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Translation of[edit]

Hi there, I find your user page using Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Translators. I am working on the project proposal and want to have it translated into as many languages as posible. If you could help with translation, add your name to and please, go ahead, translate the page. I would greatly appreciate your help.--Bjwebb (talk) 14:49, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Nice work![edit]

Barnstar-stone2-noback.png The Epic Barnstar
I hereby award you this Epic Barnstar for your brilliant work on Latin profanity. —Keenan Pepper 02:01, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
Yes, that's an excellent one! Thank you for writing it (and for compiling your favourit quotes ;-)! Mstroeck 22:59, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

PIE project[edit]

Hi, thinks for your kind words. Glad you liked the Ablaut article. Question, would you be interested in a bigger project on PIE? Go to Talk:List of Indo-European roots#Project proposal and if you are interested, stick your oar into the discussion going on there. --Doric Loon 10:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Your Indonesian question[edit]

Did you ever find an answer to your Indonesian question, i.e.:

When Bahasa Indonesia was made from Malay, was there any attempt made to reduce the levels of social coding, politeness levels, and respectful/deferential/colloquial/abrupt forms that were present in the language originally? -- Smerdis of Tlön 14:30, 7 Oct 2003 (UTC)

If so, it would be worth putting the answer to this in the article.

btw, love your Favourite quotes from the Wikipedia --Singkong2005 15:05, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Just returning your greeting[edit]

Thanks for taking time to post to my talk page, and for noticing my work. I will be messing around in the folklore and blues music categories primarily, with forays into country music and herbology, no doubt. I hope our paths cross again; i much admire you work here. Catherineyronwode 04:24, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

List of shock sites[edit]

Someone has put this up for deletion yet again. Care to cast your vote? Skinmeister 10:36, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Saints Wikiproject[edit]

I noted that you have been contributing to articles about saints. I invite you to join the WikiProject Saints.

Gloriole.svg You are invited to participate in Saints WikiProject, a project dedicated to developing and improving articles about saints. We are currently discussing prospects for the project. Your input would be greatly appreciated!

I also invite you to join the discussion on prayers and infoboxes here: Prayers_are_NPOV.

Thanks! --evrik 17:48, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Weather lore[edit]


When this article was first nominated for Featured Article status, you very kindly supported it. It is now up for Removal of FA status. I wuold very much hope you would help to defeat this nomination by taking part in the discussion here. Thanks. Denni 18:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Care to put your 2c in?[edit]

They're discussing whether or not to delete the userbox for Asperger's. --Bluejay Young 22:01, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Myriad year clock[edit]

Hi Ihcoyc. The description in the Myriad year clock indeed fits closely the characteristics of the clock on the photograph. Also, I do not know of another clock in the Tokyo Science Museum that would fit the description, so I guess this is indeed the same clock. Regards. PHG 22:02, 16 May 2006 (UTC)


Your proposal to create a Portal:Folklore has been accepted. To create the portal, please see Wikipedia:Portal/Instructions.--cj | talk 05:03, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Folklore Portal[edit]

Thanks for starting the Folklore Portal. :) --Fang Aili 說嗎? 17:35, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

I also want to congratulate you on the folklore portal. It slipped in without my noticing. I have been compiling a list of folklore stubs and articles to be written up, and will be actually organizing some folklorists to work on this project and develop a wiki project:folklore next week. (We'll be meeting to discuss this in Milwaukee, which I see is far from your corner of Indiana, but you can join us when we meet in Louisville in 2 years.) E-mail me directly for more information. One thing I am interested in doing is tagging some articles as folklore stubs. I proposed this months ago, and never got a formal yea or nay, but I think now is the time to go ahead and make that list. I just don't know how to do the folklore-stub template. In any case, all these articles can be added to the portal. I didn't even know about portals, frankly, though I've been on Wikipedia over a year. Hopefully we can organize a project and bring these articles up to shape. As you know, there's a lot of bad information out there about folklore, so hopefully we can add to it. Thanks and keep in touch. Bruxism 01:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Latin help[edit]

Hi, you added a bunch of references to the Latin article a few months ago, but could you, if possible, put them into the article as inline citations instead of at the end of the article? If you can't, that's cool, but if you could add a sentence here or there using those books and then cite them with <ref> tags, that would make the article look a lot more official. Thanks J. Finkelstein


Image:Hogarth-rake.jpg will probably be deleted as a dupe of a colored version. 05:49, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

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Pole (object)[edit]

I like what you are doing to the page to attempt to preserve it. The real question is "would it not be better merged with Pole and that page improved?" Fiddle Faddle 14:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

License and poem[edit]

Looks like you're correct on that. No worries. --Improv 18:53, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Long talk page[edit]

Greetings! Your talk page is getting a bit long in the tooth - please consider archiving your talk page (or ask me and I'll archive it for you). Cheers! BD2412 T 23:55, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

George Smith[edit]

Hello and good day to you, American Computer Steve. A sincere thankyou for your vote to keep George Toogood Smith. With regards to your comment, I am increasingly interested in expanding this article and as soon as this gorgeous weather goes away I will dig out some books and get researching. In the meantime I wonder do you have any knowlege/interest in the subject and could you perhaps help yourself? Thankyou kindly and have a very nice day. No more tennis for me. Lah dee dah.--Crestville 14:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Sic Semper Sockdologizers[edit]

Hey, I notice you entered the bit about sockdolager being a deformation of sockdologer [1]. I've seen a number of definitions and etymologies of the word -- can you tell me where you found yours? (I know, you did this a long time ago, hope this isn't a pain, but I'm very curious about this word.) IronDuke 02:12, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I want to hear this too. --Bluejay Young 08:26, 26 July 2006 (UTC)


Hi! I came across the word couthutlaugh in Outlaw and was intrigued enough to Google it -- finding precisely zero references (that were not copies of the Wikipedia article). Assuming it was completely spurious, I boldly removed it (with a request that a citation be given if it is readded); upon further investigation, however, I discovered that the word was referred to in the article as you originally wrote it. That changed matters; obviously you would not have introduced a spurious word intentionally. I therefore checked my OED and found an entry (with the spelling couthutlaughe). Now, the term, while real, is clearly exceedingly obscure -- it is apparently almost entirely confined to legal dictionaries. I feel that, if it is to stand in the outlaw article, it should be marked as such (and appropriately cited); what do you think? Kiscica 23:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Hi again -- See Talk:Outlaw where I quote the OED entry... Kiscica 23:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)


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Vulgar Latin[edit]

I'd like to thank you for your interesting article and let you know that I've just translated it into French (fr:Latin Vulgaire). On the behalf of fr, let me tell you that I appreciate the time it took you to write it. I must say that it was extremely tedious to translate, because I don't know much about linguistics termoniology in French (this website was a major help). Well, do keep up the good work. You've made some very important contributions to Wikipedia. --Zantastik talk 03:25, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Award time[edit]

Original Barnstar.png The Original Barnstar
Awarded to Ihcoyc for thinking outside the box. - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:01, 2 August 2006 (UTC)


In your "official capacity as Lord High Parliamentian of the Royal Anarchist Pan-African Christian Party for White Islamic European Socialist Independence in Latin America", you must be very busy indeed, what with having so many followers.

Thanks for taking the time out from your official duties to make me laugh :) --BrownHairedGirl 18:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

  • I will keep in mind from now on that I am in the company of such esteemed [2] officer. How to address you? CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 19:54, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the help on magical mottoes. I kind of dont want to do that much (just in case it gets deleted), as this sort of thing takes time. I just dont want my time to be wasted is all. I've got alot more names to add though, so..thanks again. :) SynergeticMaggot 15:48, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Nevermind, I guess we are making the list rise! I awarded you a barnstar for translating. Many thanks. SynergeticMaggot 16:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Copyright Information Permission for Rossetti's The Holy Grail Image[edit]

From: Geoffrey McDonald" <> 

> Can you help? > > I am trying to source the current owner and location of Dante Gabriel > Rossetti's painting "The Holy Grail" you have listed on your encyclopedia, last uploaded 17:01, 20 June 2003..Ihoyc. > > I am seeking permission to use it on a book cover. > > I have read the copyright information and the Public Domain literature. >It says the image is Public Domain. > However, I would like to source the current owner to see if they have any copyright rights and to confirm that it is indeed Public Domain and can therefore be used on a book cover. > > I emailed Wikipedia, who were very helpful and told me to contact the uploader:

"Our image was uploaded back in 2003; you can contact the uploader to ask where he got it from, but three years down the line it's possible he's forgotten. Try leaving him a note at and asking him to leave a reply there.

In 1874, Rossetti painted an oil version - similar in concept, but changing the pose, and with a more advanced style. This is the one we have the picture of -

Per that page, it's currently held privately by Lord Andrew Lloyd-Webber; I'm afraid I have no idea how you'd go about contacting him to enquire about the rights, though."

Can the person who uploaded the Holy Grail image in 2003 please name their source so I can see if I need to ask for permission to use this image for a book cover?

You help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.



I uploaded the Holy Grail image several years ago to Wikipedia. The site the file is from was noted on the upload page:
The file I put on Wikipedia is basically the same image, brightened and made somewhat smaller.
At least in the USA, the file is public domain. My understanding is that the artist died sometime in the 1880s. Even the longest copyright periods (100 years after the death of the creator) would put that file firmly in the public domain. In the USA, at any rate, it shouldn't be necessary to seek the permission of the owner of the original to use the image, because nobody has a right to exclude anyone else from using the image any more. I don't know about the law of other jurisdictions, which may be quaint and curious and full of ironic twists.
I have absolutely no idea how you'd get in touch with Andrew Lloyd Webber. His agent or publicist might be a start. Don't know who they are either. - Smerdis of Tlön 13:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)


Thanks very much, and...everybody else who came round to play lawn darts is still here...Mohoho. Yomangani 22:48, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Odiambo Siangla[edit]

Hi. You may want to comment on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Odhiambo Siangla. Nesbit 17:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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Vulgar Latin[edit]

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You participated in the discussion last time. Please participate in the discussion this time. Uncle G 00:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)


Updated DYK query On 18 August, 2006, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article gasoline pill, which you created. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.


I didn't read the complete article, my i can suggest the following two SF-movies. They where both produced around 1980 and relay an alternative social future, if you take out the killing, action etc. With is alike the (super) high modernism:

Alien (1979), Blade Runner (1982), Ridley Scott a director And perhaps The Fifth Element

If you look at the way the characters in the movie are housed, for instance. This better seen in the second Alien movie. --Grim Reaper2 12:28, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Kurdish celebration of Newroz[edit]

Based on skimming both articles, the Kurdish version of the holiday seems significant enough to warrant a separate article. The article is referenced, albeit mostly with external links that probably ought to be turned into endnotes. Were the Kurdish section merged, it would either dominate the head article, or information would be lost. Per WP:BIAS, if we have separate articles on ethnic Winter Solstice observations, we can have separate articles on ethnic Vernal Equinox observations also. - Smerdis of Tlön 14:04, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
From Kurdish celebration of Newroz
I just want to clarify my reasonings. Bear with me.
Firstly, I am not proposing the information to be lost. Just seperated.
The holiday Newroz had been celebrated for forever (according to article). Kurds just like rest of the local peoples had been celebrating this and still do. Any diagreements with this?
I think it is biased to suggest the political rallys are a part of kurdish culture which wouldt come with the assumption that every Kurd supports the PKK (these "political rallys" often end up bing a PKK suprot rally orhganised by certain Kurdish political parties). Any diagreements with this?
The Newroz celebrations are hardly unique to the kurds (as per Norouz) and the politics stuff is hardly uneque to the spring holiday (such incidents happen on other social gatherings such as on the workers day and etc). That is why an article explaining the political aspect should be kept diferent. Any diagreements with this?
So, all I am proposing is spliting political stuff and holiday stuff.
--Cat out 17:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Just a brief response. When a page is on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion, what is at issue is whether the page is so worthless as to be unworthy of an encyclopedia, and ought to be entirely removed. Vanity pages, crank theories, confused gibberish, and deliberate vandalism are the chief offenders.
Your concerns about what should be at the head page of Norouz and what should be at this one don't fit any of the usual categories. This is the sort of thing that customarily is addressed at one or the other articles' talk pages. Likewise, if the page is wrong about the extent or significance of the politicization of the holiday among Kurds, this too is something that belongs on the talk page; flag it for neutrality and accuracy if need be.
I have no opinion on any of these issues, and no real basis to form one. I read the article on Kurdish celebrations, and it seemed to make sense and contain information that, if accurate, should be kept somewhere. And similarly, since it contained information about songs associated with the celebration by Kurds, it seemed to have enough independent data to no longer qualify as a POV fork, even if it once did.
- Smerdis of Tlön 20:13, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
No, afd is a concensus gathering process. I am NOT trying to get anything deleted,<just tying to reorganize the mess. See talk page of Kurdistan why talk pages are practıcaly useless (constant endless rants). The idea is to talk the opponent to death (forumer logic) I believe.
I really feel article should be topic spesific rather than ethnicity spesific. History can be its main article for instance. Political stuff should go to an article about political stuff rather than about the spring holiday.
Perhaps you can change your vote from keep to move/rename etc?
--Cat out 22:56, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Great userpage[edit]

Seriously, this is the best userpage I have seen on wikipedia. It suggests you have read and contributed to many interesting articles -- I should like to know the best ones! Hey, maybe I can buy a few beers and you, I, and Schopenhauer can have a real party! Good work! Rintrah 22:46, 24 August 2006 (UTC)


Hi, Excellent rewrite - well done! Dlyons493 Talk 20:47, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

  • I agree. Impressive work. Dina 22:33, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Infinite nesting[edit]

Thanks for your delightful comment on the "infinite nesting" AfD...I was considering writing something similar myself, but thought better of it lest it become troll-food; nulla salus extra ecclesiam and all that, what. Byrgenwulf 14:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject: Historical information[edit]

WikiProject: Historical information is better organized than when you saw it last (as Wikipedia:Historical information). Would you care to join it?—msh210 22:00, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

Latin translation[edit]

I note you're fairly conversant in Latin, so I was wondering if you could translate a city motto for me so that I could include it in an infobox: Per Ardva Ad Summum Bonum Civilium. Thanks.  OzLawyer / talk  14:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Sure - that's "Through Struggles to the Greatest Good of the Citizens" (or, "the greatest civic good"). It's a fairly obvious play on the traditional tag per ardua ad astra, "through struggles to the stars." - Smerdis of Tlön 14:46, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. I found the air force motto and tried to "translate" the motto myself (I know virtually nothing of Latin, although I wish I did—it's very interesting), coming up with something somewhat similar, although not quite right: "through struggle to the best society". I think I'll go with "greatest civic good". Again, thanks.  OzLawyer / talk  14:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Business Process Management[edit]

I understand your concern for the page having buzzwords, however, it would also be great if you could start some discussion on the talk page about how to fix it. Cheers, Ansell 01:04, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

The same goes for your concern regarding the article on business processes. I have rewritten the article almost completely and I am proposing that you remove the buzzword tag you set. Hur bra är din svenska egentligen? Hälsningar, --Kai a simon 08:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Irish phonology peer review[edit]

Hi, over two years ago you left this message at Talk:Irish phonology. Well, the article has grown rather a lot from then and is now up for peer review. If you'd like to, please take a look at the current version and then leave comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Irish phonology/archive1. Thanks! —Angr 11:59, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Beautiful languages DRV[edit]

Howdy, You suggested that I speedy deleted the above because it was "inherently POV" (you then comment that you were unaware whether that was a CSD). That's simply inaccurate, please review the deletion log. It was removed under WP:CSD A1, as described in the deletion summary. Please excercise better care in the future. - CHAIRBOY () 21:01, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, please sign your posts to talk pages with ~~~~. It makes it easier to stay abreast of conversations and to know who's talking. Thanks! - CHAIRBOY () 21:02, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Latin Question[edit]

Hi. You seem to be an authority on Latin, so you seem the right person to ask. In Latin poetry, are the words chosen so the verses follow the determined sequence of long and short syllables, or are the words pronounced contrary to their usual pronunciation, if necessary, in accordance with the metre? Thanks. Rintrah 14:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

You answered my question. Thanks. Rintrah 00:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Do you know of any online Latin dictionaries that mark the long and short syllables of the listed words? Rintrah 01:09, 24 November 2006 (UTC)


Hi, I have vastly improved the article Absent referent to address the concerns of you and others. The ghits should now include the expression "absent|missing referent|antecedent". I will include redirects for these variations if needed upon closure of AfD. Please consider changing your vote to KEEP. Thanks for your comments! The pointer to the Sign (linguistics) article was especially helpful. I feel the article is much stronger now, and I have learned much in this process both about the concept and WP in general. --Bhuston 13:39, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

List of songs that have been considered among the greatest ever[edit]

I've nominated it for deletion again. As a previous participant in the debate I thought you'd be interested. Duggy 1138 08:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Article in need of cleanup - please assist if you can[edit]


As per JzG's recommendation, I've totally reworked the above article as a revamped stub. Please take another look if you like. Thanks Bwithh 20:39, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Itza and Popo[edit]

Thanks for the note - I'm not sure what happened there... I was editing late at night and didnt notice I readded the tag. Obviously no point in afd continuing and I'm not contesting the early closure as I rewrote the article myself.... Anyway thanks and sorry for the glitch Bwithh 23:32, 19 December 2006 (UTC)


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Unspecified source for Image:Highwayman.jpg[edit]

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Common scold FAR[edit]

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Celtic cross.svg The Black Cross of St. Declan
You, Smerdis of Tlön, are awarded the Black Cross of St. Declan for going medieval on our asses with your excellent work on articles of Dark Ages and Middle Ages interest. De réir a chéile a thógtar na caisleáin - "It takes time to build castles" Ciarán of Clonmacnoise 06:22, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

salve, amice[edit]

salve! articulos aliquos legi tuos atque tecum loqui mihi valde placebit. mexico incolo et sedecim mihi sunt anni. visne per 'messengerem' nos colloqui? hoc nuntio multi sunt latinistae ! da veniam nisi tua sit interest...sed mihi optimum perito velut tu loqui videtur ! hahahae :) responsum tuum exspectabo. cura ut valeas, ihcoyc :P —The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) 18:58, 12 January 2007 (UTC).

Eric Heubeck[edit]

Not much content there. I did some investigation and not much is available. Maybe a merge? See the talk page.--Filll 00:32, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:List of media personalities who have vandalised Wikipedia[edit]

It looks like the deletion police are trying to circumvent a previous AFD again. See Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:List of media personalities who have vandalised Wikipedia. As you voted keep, could you cast your vote again? - Ta bu shi da yu 22:52, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

Hear, hear! I read your comment on the AFD page, where you wrote:
And don't quote "consensus can change", either; this isn't grounds to disruptively keep rehashing the same old claims until the "correct" result is achieved. I also strongly dislike seeing argumentative and Scripture-quoting replies to Keep opinions. I am close to starting a request for comment about this intimidating, uncivil, and increasing tendency.
I hearily endorse some sort of action about this. However, an RFC won't really do it, maybe a short ironic Wikipedia namespace article like Wikipedia:Don't overuse shortcuts to policy and guidelines to win your argument (with a shortcut WP:DONT)? :-) Ta bu shi da yu 11:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Good morning. What do you know about DreamGuy? (see discussion page on Multiple personality controversy) --Bluejay Young 15:48, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Your essay[edit]

Brilliant, I think it captures the general feel for what was happening there on xFD. - Ta bu shi da yu 23:42, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

New template[edit]

I have a new template, {{npov-essay}}. As npov doesn't really apply to the Wikipedia namespace, but balance and consensus does, I felt it needed a special template. What do you think? - Ta bu shi da yu 23:56, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

A new essay[edit]

I have also written a new essay, Wikipedia:Essays are not policy. Could you give me your thoughts on it, and where I should announce it? I put a notice on the village pump (policy), but not sure if that's the best place to put it now. - Ta bu shi da yu 11:24, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Proposed Wikipedia talk:Notability (news)[edit]

On the Wikipedia talk page for Wikipedia:Notability you expressed some opinions about whether things covered by news media should be entitled to Wikipedia articles for having met the criteria of multiple coverage in reliable independent sources I have created a draft of a proposed guideline Wikipedia talk:Notability (news) looking at the question of whether "newsworthy" equals "encyclopedic." Your input is welcome. Thanks.Edison 01:16, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Permissions for an image[edit]

Image:Mobiuslweb sm.jpg is an autism rights movement logo. Its creator (Oddizms) uses it to sell things on cafepress. She says "You may use it on a web page or on your personal stationary, or use it as an inspiration for your own creation, just don't take my design and sell stuff with it on it, right? And don't put it on offensive stuff." I want it to illustrate Autism rights movement and also my userboxes. What permissions or copyright -- you know what I mean, they want me to put a tag in and after looking at the examples, I still don't know which one to use. --Bluejay Young 19:39, 5 February 2007 (UTC)



I tagged this image for deletion, as its author died less than 70 years ago, so it is unlikely that its copyright expired. If you disagree, pls share your thoughts on this. TeunSpaans 07:05, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Pls read and think twice[edit]

Dear Sir, I am Dr. Mohammad Samir Hossain from Bangladesh. I was and still am too poor like my country. I was desperately searching for support for my research and seeing my desperate wish some educators from the so called non-accreditated university Bircham International University became too kind to buy me books and appove me 100% fund. I had to beg to many but got only one. So I jumped on my dream topic - Philosophy of Death and Adjustment and start working on the Impact of different philosophies on different bangladeshi people. I did it because in the science of death such research was never conducted, but if I can do or at least raise some point for it, may be some richer and more qualified people will find their interest in it and may proceed. My back ground thought was that remedy to many mental health problem might come out from this new branch. But who would raise me with it? Cause I did not have money even to buy papers or my daily food, let alone doing vast correspondences or take help from any accreditated university. Though fortunately I enrolled at Harvard Medical School with full waiver, but that was too small period for me to do any good job. Finally I thought may be Elisabeth kubler-Ross herself might find interest in it and togather we will proceed. But my luck did not support me, cause I found the news of her funeral on the very day I found her organization's web site. So temporarily my research work stopped upto which Bircham International University helped me. So till now I dream of proceeding more on the research with supports of knowledge from all over the world, and I do not even have a web site to introduce my thoughts. So the only light of hope became this free encyclopedia, and for reference I only had Bircham International University web site. So I desperately tried to promote the introduction of the university in this encyclopedia so that the research reference gets its better base. I know my letter is big and annoying, but sometimes we do annoying things for something better, and please believe me I tried to promote Bircham International University or any other that you all object, just to facilitate the birth of a new branch of a science. Please help me in every way, you do not need to ask me anything for editing or changing. If you all fail to help in a rational manner, I do not mind and will take it as a fate. I will see my reply through the condition of the article "Philosophy of Death and Adjustment". I will love to see this baby of mine alive, but if dead, I will follow the branch of science that I am holding on.

Regards Md. Samir Hossain MD, PhD Assistant Professor of Psychiatry E-mail: 15:26, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

This guy is spamming users by posting this same posting on various User:Talk pages. His "philosophy" falls under geriatrics. --Otheus 01:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Merge Request[edit]

When you have the time, can you please merge the frost kings into the main Helen Keller article? Thanks. --Umalee 17:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Image:Oldkingcole.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

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I have copied two of your "userboxen" I hope you don't mind. The two were your bible quote from Romans and your anti-Metric userbox. SKC

Survey Invitation[edit]

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Racial memory AfD[edit]

A question for you, [3]. Cheers, Pete.Hurd 19:29, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Need help on Categories[edit]

What would be good Categories for my article Letter to Posterity that was written by Petrarch in 1372? --Doug talk 16:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

thank you[edit]

If there was a Barnstar of Construcive Dialogue I would award you one - as it is I will just thank you for restoring my faith in the principles of wikipedia :), regards, sbandrews (t) 17:33, 28 March 2007 (UTC)


Hi Ihcoyc/archive 5, this is a message I'm posting to everyone who participated in this AfD. I have nominated the same article for deletion again here – you might be interested. Regards, KissL 09:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)