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Hello, In Citer! Welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions to this free encyclopedia. If you decide that you need help, check out Getting Help below, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and ask your question there. Please remember to sign your name on talk pages by clicking Button sig.png or using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. Finally, please do your best to always fill in the edit summary field. Below are some useful links to facilitate your involvement. Happy editing! Dirk Beetstra T C 16:56, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, thanks for the contributions. There are some things that need cleaning up, indeed (e.g. I see links to external pages inside the main text, those are generally not the best, they may be better formatted either as references, or wiki links should be found for them). I would suggest that you split your userpage up, you can do that by pasting the parts into separate pages, e.g. User:In Citer/Page 1, User:In Citer/Page 2, User:In Citer/Page 3 (I would suggest you change the 'Page 1' into the actual title as you would like to see it in mainspace. It does look a bit confusing now. If you have further questions, don't hesitate to ask. Some other policies and guidelines are linked from the welcome template below, which may also be of help. Thanks for contacting us, regards. --Dirk Beetstra T C 16:56, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Why me?[edit]

I'm at a loss. I have no knowledge whatsoever about the Dalet School, and my experience in private schools is restricted to having attended one when I was a child. I have no idea what it is you think I can offer, nor why you would put my name in the summary of your edit in creating that page. I have no idea what it is you think I can help you with. Magidin (talk) 17:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Radio station article[edit]

Hi. I'm glad you have asked that question.

First, type in "Template:Infobox Radio station" in the search box then copy the entire template from there (for easy access to the template, click on the link provided). Then you paste it in the new article you're about to create. Then with the sources needed, type in what the station is about.

If you're writing about an AM or FM station in the United States see the following links and type in the callsign of the station to get ownership info, frequency, power, and city of license (these are the most reliable sources to put info in the radio infobox):

Following the station info, write a history section of what you know about the station so far. This may not be applicable, but if 24-hour programming consists of Radio Disney, ESPN Radio, K-LOVE, or whatever network, it is recommended to put the station history in there.

In the External Links column following the station website put in the following templates:

See an abbridged version of WBAP for example:

City Fort Worth, Texas
Broadcast area Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex
Branding WBAP News/Talk 820
Slogan "The News and Talk of Texas"
Frequency 820 kHz (also in HD Radio)
First air date May 2, 1922
Format News/Talk
Power 50,000 Watts
Class A (Clear channel)
Facility ID 71200
Transmitter coordinates 32°36′38.00″N 97°10′0.00″W / 32.6105556°N 97.1666667°W / 32.6105556; -97.1666667
Callsign meaning We Bring A Program
Affiliations ABC News
The Weather Channel
Dallas Stars (NHL)
Owner Citadel Broadcasting
(Radio License Holding IV, LLC)
Sister stations KPMZ, KSCS
Webcast WBAP Live Feed

WBAP is a news and talk formatted-AM radio station in the Dallas Fort Worth Metroplex. WBAP broadcasts on 820 kHz with 50,000 watts and its omnidirectional nighttime signal can be heard throughout Texas.

WBAP is one of many Disney/ABC Radio stations that has been transferred to Citadel Broadcasting and remains an affiliate of ABC. Despite different owners, WBAP and WFAA-TV maintain a strong partnership (as WFAA is the local ABC television affiliate). This station also broadcasts Dallas Stars games during the NHL season. Also, WBAP, and sister station KSCS are responsible for activation of the North Texas Emergency Alert System when hazardous weather alerts, Disaster area declarations, and child abductions are issued.[1]

This is one of the few U.S. stations west of the Mississippi River that carries a "W" as the first letter in its call sign.

External Links[edit]

Note: If the stations has HD Radio audio capability, type in "{{HD Radio}}" next to the frequency.

Hopefully, this helps.

Sacred name Bibles[edit]

Any contributions to improve the article are welcome. The topic deserves an article in Wikipedia, but the piece to date has not reached an adequate standard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pete unseth (talkcontribs) 14:56, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

The problem with your version Pete is that it seems to include a lot of books, which heavily support a "anti-sacred name Bible" view. Any chance of cutting the list down to the most important ones? In Citer (talk) 15:20, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
NPOV requires citing both sides of an issue. I have reduced the list of references you saw as "anti". However, the current enlarged version of the article now has a number of points that take a partisan stance. Wikipedia aims to inform, not persuade. I deleted "F.F. Bruce", not being linked to a published citation. Working together, Pete unseth (talk) 16:17, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your help so far. I have deleted some words which are not NPOV. I'm putting F. F. Bruce back on, since it was him who wrote the book I am using. I will make sure I include the reference. In Citer (talk) 16:20, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
The last two paragraphs from earlier form have been deleted. I thought them useful. The passages could be updated to quote the Bethel edition. There are still sections which are more persuasive than informative; not always enough to change individual words. Working together, we will achieve an improved and acceptable version. Pete unseth (talk) 16:51, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
In Citer, in the articles that touch on the Sacred Scriptures Bethel Edition, I still hope to see more documentation for some points. I assume you are writing in good faith, but Wikipedia is built on documenting our claims. Pete unseth (talk) 03:36, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
In Citer, I've made a few changes to some articles in an effort to remove some incorrect information and as well as some that is not written from the neutral point-of-view to which encyclopaedias attain. I think you'll find that I have not removed the SSBE from the list of Bibles. I'm sorry if I've removed information you added in the process; I assure you that I am not attempting to attack your work directly (or that of anyone else). AndrewNJ (talk) 05:55, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
One more question: I changed the "Divine Name translations" to "Sacred Name translations" heading because it seems the more common term, and in my understanding they are synonyms. What would you consider the difference between the two? AndrewNJ (talk) 17:34, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Anyone interested?[edit]

At the moment I still have some more redirects to do to various pages I have created. Also, here I am trying to come to a strategy of improving this section of the Assemblies of Yahweh page and it would be great if someone could help User:In Citer/Page 4. I have an image I will be putting on the Assemblies of Yahweh page sometime soon too. In Citer (talk) 15:25, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Thoughts on Assemblies of Yahweh page Doctrinal Beliefs section[edit]

Fctedt (talk) 16:11, 17 December 2008 (UTC)I have done some editing on the AOY page. It has been hard to keep it stable because of vandalism. One of the things I (and it seems at least a few others) have tried to do is keep the article streamlined. For instance, in the Doctrinal Beliefs section a brief overview of some of the doctrines proclaimed by the AOY are put forth. A link is provided on the page to the AOY's own Statement of Doctrine for those who may wish to see more than the brief overview. Occasionally someone will say that there should be other party links to reference statements. This Doctrinal Beliefs section (and other sections) is simply presented as what the AOY proclaims and is supported by the SOD that the organization proclaims. I personally have not found it useful to reference what the Southern Baptist Convention or Oxford College or the Los Angeles city council (etc...) "thinks" the AOY proclaims. Right now the AOY article is shorter than most religious organization articles on Wik. Every thing in the article is a matter of public proclamation of the AOY itself (publishing, radio, television etc...) presented briefly and as concise as possible. It has been the goal to keep out opinions of what the AOY proclaims or does. (whether or not someone agrees with what the AOY says or does is a matter of personal opinion and not relevant to an encyclopedia article.) As far as the "look" of this section... Anything that would make it quicker and easier to read perhaps. What that would be I do not know. Adding information would not achive this and it is already short enough that removing any more information from this article would begin to reduce it to a "stub".

That is fine, I'm just trying to help. Someone has taken up the offer on including a table, though it wasn't really what I had in mind. Still, I think it works really well to organize the article. I don't want to get in to conflict (WP:COI) because of this article so I approve of your WP: BE BOLD edits for the time being. Anything you disagree with let me know or fix it yourself (WP:SOFIXIT). If I don't agree, I will let you know on your user page. Thanks for sharing your concerns about my edits. In Citer (talk) 18:28, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Two users are discontent[edit]

They want the AOY article deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:06, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of The Narrow Way (Newsletter)[edit]

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I have nominated The Narrow Way (Newsletter), an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Narrow Way (Newsletter). Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Ricky81682 (talk) 10:51, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the warning, you still have to put warnings up about the rest of the pages you have put up for deletion which I have created. I will be waiting. Also you may want to check out the Incidents page because we are discussing your conduct. Thanks again. In Citer (talk) 16:09, 5 January 2009 (UTC).
I have not put any other pages up for deletion. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 20:56, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Bali has and you have endorsed him or vice versa. Perhaps you could leave a message on his user talk page and remind him of WP:etiquette. Thank you. In Citer (talk) 16:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
First, speak to Bali yourself if you would like. I am not going to be a conduit. Second, assume good faith as we are not working together and we are actually interested in improving the articles, some of which are going to survive deletion discussions. If you think he is being disruptive, speak about it at WP:ANI or better yet at WP:Wikiquette alerts (and I suggest you do it in a concise fashion as opposed to a long diatribe or others will ignore it). Third, one more comment like this and I am blocking you. Last warning. Nobody was complaining about notability there so don't just start random arguments for no reason. If you want to be helpful, actually look through the sources and include information in the articles. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 03:57, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Ricky, I would like to apologise if you thought I was assuming bad faith on your eidts. I don't understand why both you and Bali have been so forceful in changing the articles I have created, but hopefully we can smooth things out. In Citer (talk) 15:04, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

WP:ANI notice[edit]

Instead of editing the archives (which means that the threads are essentially closed), I've started a new section at Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Assemblies_of_Yahweh_AFDs, in part on your editing. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 21:11, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

  • I have reverted your edits to the WP:AN archives. Archives of past discussions should not normally be edited; please do not do so in future. If you wish to re-open a discussion that has been archived, please start a new thread with a note and a link to the older discussion. Thanks. SHEFFIELDSTEELTALK 22:28, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

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Obadiah School of the Bible[edit]

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Assemblies of Yahweh citations[edit]

I'm not sure about how it improves readability but I'm not sure combining multiple sources into a single ref tag follows the ideas behind Wikipedia:Citing sources. However, if you revert, I'm not going to fight it. Besides, we may be able to find more use for those sources eventually. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 10:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi Ricky. Thank you for the co-operation so far. I would like to revert that particular edit simply because I'm trying to keep very similar references together. When we redirect all these AOY pages, I really don't want a lot of these internet sources on their own tags. If when this page is finished and the references are sortable, I may even undo the edit again. Thank you. In Citer (talk) 10:37, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Reverts on AOY[edit]

I'm having trouble with this page, I think I'll sleep on it. In Citer (talk) 18:31, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: Hi Astynax[edit]

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Never use Wikipedia to attack Jews or members of any religion because of their religion - only warning[edit]

I've deleted your rant at Talk:Yahweh - anything more like that and you can expect to be blocked or topic banned from religious articles. Doug Weller talk 17:38, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

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  1. ^ "Dallas Fort Worth Local Plan" (PDF). Texas Association of Broadcasters. Retrieved 2008-05-05.