User talk:IndianBio

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How soon we forget[edit]

Per this, a second album cover can only be included in an infobox if the alternate image is specifically referenced in the article, "There should be one item to illustrate the work unless there is some source-backed rationale for why an additional cover must be visually shown (such that its removal would be a detriment to the reader's understanding)." Plus, the FUR for the image as it currently stands is invalid, because it claims it will "serve as the primary means of visual identification at the top of the article dedicated to the work in question. What's good for the gander is good for the goose, I'm afraid. Homeostasis07 (talk) 16:50, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

@Homeostasis07: check my edit summary, I agree with all of this. I had nominated it for deletion previously also, it resulted in no consensus. If nominated my stance has not changed, this image is of no use per NFCC. —IB [ Poke ] 16:54, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
The onus is on the uploader to provide a valid FUR and then provide proper contextual significance to ensure it complies completely with NFCC. Consensus doesn't negate that. Homeostasis07 (talk) 16:59, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

Billboard Brasil[edit]

Just saw your edit summary at Chained to the Rhythm regarding a user adding a chart sourced to Billboard Brasil. I don't mind the chart being removed because there's already a Brazilian peak there, but it's not a false website—it's the official licensed Brazilian version of Billboard. It has its own unique website (that is quite badly formatted as I don't think there's a way to access previous weeks' charts, but official nonetheless). The far more well-known American Billboard's Brazilian charts are different from Billboard Brasil's. Ritchie333 and I previously talked about it at Talk:÷ (album), where, like you, I was initially under the impression that a user had added a fake peak when it actually reached number 1 on Billboard Brasil's chart, and not American Billboard's Brazilian albums chart. Ss112 11:03, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

@Ss112: thanks for explaining, it seems weird that a Billboard affiliated website is so poor;y constructed. I tried to find its allegiance at and its not listed there, so thought it was fake. Just like that Billboard Russia website we had previously. —IB [ Poke ] 13:30, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Confessions on a Dance Floor[edit]

Hi, IB. I started with the Legacy section in this page. Can you help me clean my disaster :)?. You know, maybe add, remove, fix the English grammar, etc. Thanks, Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 06:54, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Sure, would love to. —IB [ Poke ] 06:57, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks! I appreciate always your help. Also, I was thinking after searching and searching that the Music album can also have a Legacy section. Maybe in the future, I will try to develop the idea haha. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 07:05, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
@Chrishonduras: I have copyedited the article as requested. :) —IB [ Poke ] 06:43, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks again, IB Face-grin.svg. It looks better. I think that I will copy+paste in the article. If you're in disagreed with something, please let me know. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 15:40, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Adele 25[edit]


why did you remove Cameron Craig - engineering from the personnel/engineering section?

It is verifiable references 131, 132

and on the booklet that comes with the CD track 8 "Love in the Dark" reference 193 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cameronscraig (talkcontribs) 06:33, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Your removal on 1989 (Taylor Swift album)[edit]

Hi, I've just taken a look at WP:REDIRECT, but at the moment can't see what you're saying there. Did you misread it? If you still think "do not list redirects which do not pertain to the actual article name" is one of the rules here, please supply a more precise reference. It certainly isn't in the section I would expect to find it in.

Furthermore, what do you believe constitutes an appropriate use of {{redirect-distinguish}}? If there are appropriate and inappropriate uses, we could do with some guidelines in the documentation for that template. — Smjg (talk) 17:31, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Poker Face[edit]

The Billboard article does state, "The 2008 dance-pop hit..."[1] It was only recently that the genre was changed to solely synthpop; not sure why.

The notes on the page were for the song being transposed to A minor. The notes would go down a semitone, thus the notes I included.

I don't include information without looking it up first. I don't seek to vandalize. I'm including accurate information.

Hopefully we can come to an agreement. CB19 (talk) 01:24, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

List of artists influenced by Madonna[edit]

The Lil' Kim source is an interview from Out Magazine:

The Ayumi Hamasaki source is an interview from Time Magazine:,9171,218375,00.html

The Nami Tamaki source yes was AllMusic just like a lot of artists on the list. So I don't know what you're talking about, because AllMusic is clearly ALLOWED. I mean why wouldn't it be?.

Plus she has talked hundreds of times about Madonna but I don't know the Japanese language.

Next time be sure to check things out, before removing contributions. Please!

Greetings. --Lè franco (talk) 03:36, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Borderline credits[edit]

Hi, forgive me if I get this process wrong - new to this. I wanted to clarify the attempt to correct the Borderline page:

I used the term "remix" but I am not referring to the "extended remix" or "dance mix". I am referring to the "US Single" which is not the track on the album. Jellybean (as noted in the article) remixed the track for 7" release as well as for radio play. The version of the song that we hear on radio or bought as a single is Jellybean's mix and not the album track. That version as live drums and different keyboard parts performed by Stephen Bray and Mary Kessler. I feel it's worth of noting since the also the version in the official video, etc. Let me know if I can provide you with more evidence or whatever you may need.

Thanks for any advice you have.

Best, Stephen Bray — Preceding unsigned comment added by Soultonemusic (talkcontribs) 17:05, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Wait a minute, are you Stephen Bray? Please do respond here. —IB [ Poke ] 05:11, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Forgive me but I am struggling to understand the communication protocol here. Yes, I did play on this track and have some first hand knowledge. Could you help advise me on the best way to clarify that the single version (played on the radio and sold as vinyl 45 rpm and cassette (this was a long time ago) is the Jelly mix. Maybe calling it a remix is what is confusing? It is the US Single version I am referring to. Should there be a separate wiki entry? Open to any suggestions but I do think it is currently incomplete with only album credits listed. Thank you! Soultonemusic (talk) 05:29, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
Hi Soultonemusic, the question I have for you is are you the Stephen Bray who had worked with Madonna? Please see our policy on conflict of interest on Wikipedia. —IB [ Poke ] 05:48, 10 May 2017 (UTC)────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────

Nevermind Indian Bio, Stephen. He's been a grumpy lately. Conflict of Interest only really comes in to play here when your editing practices interfere with the integrity of the website (i.e., "I did this! So I'm gonna add a bunch of text saying how awesome it is!") But you're clearly requesting help about making a substantive edit. I recently had a similar issue to yours about Roxette's "It Must Have Been Love#Credits and personnel". There were multiple distinct versions of that song released, and it was impossible to incorporate all the musicians into one basic list, so I had to divide them into two separate ones. Maybe you could do something similar with the version you're referring to? I'm still not entirely sure which version you're referring to, though. Is the US single version the same as the one on The Immaculate Collection? If so, you could use that album's credits as a source. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or just respond here, if you want to. Homeostasis07 (talk) 19:34, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

@Homeostasis07: I am not grumpy but thanks for jumping to conclusions as always. Soultonemusic, if you are the real Stephen Bray then there is much help that we can get from you for developing the articles. We still do not have any free image of Stephen Bray in the encyclopedia. —IB [ Poke ] 04:08, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Certification box[edit]

Hey, can you help me with the certification box here please. It is silver based on shipments only, but I can't seem to get rid of the sales+streaming footnote and change it to just shipments without having to do a manually written certification box.  — Calvin999 09:06, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Done! Face-smile.svgIB [ Poke ] 09:50, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks :)  — Calvin999 09:53, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Rebel Heart (song)[edit]

Should this song be an article in the first place?

It doesn't meet the Notability criteria at all, mainly this "Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability."

Thank you. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:02, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

@MarioSoulTruthFan: it does actually, since it was the very first song that was leaked from the album. This coupled with "Wash All Over Me" are the first songs to gain independent notability from the album, until the six songs that were officially released. —IB [ Poke ] 12:16, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
Ok. I guess this is an excpetion apart from the other songs. How about Holy Water? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 12:20, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
For "Holy Water" it was the controversial live performance on the tour actually. She was even banned from performing it in Singapore, which gave it a lot of traction in media, thereby gaining its notability. —IB [ Poke ] 12:22, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Take a Bow (Madonna song)[edit]

I'm sorry but I don't understand your revert. Why does a journal article have to be "helpful"? Surely it is either about the song or it isn't. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 13:33, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

@The Vintage Feminist:, we usually add a further reading section, when we have material which is related to the article but there is no use of adding it in the article itself. In this case, the journal article is about media and video, however is it related to the song itself? IS there any mention of "Take a Bow" or its music video for instance anywhere? —IB [ Poke ] 13:42, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
The article's abstract:
The music video poses several questions in which the ordering of the senses becomes central: What does it mean to show a singing body, a close-up of a singer and her body parts (her open mouth, her hands, her lips, etc.)? Does the music video emphasize sight over hearing by becoming cinematic and theatrical? The tension between the somatic side of singing and the beautification of the singing, instrumental, working body through dancing brings a gendered vision to the fore that links the female body strictly with codes of beauty. A reading of Madonna’s video “Take a Bow” allows for such an analysis in its tendency to dramatize the division of sound and image as in film: the image of the beautiful woman entails the use of voice through dubbing.
The entire journal article uses Take a Bow as a case study. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 13:48, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
Okay thanks for pointing it, I will revert myself and add it to the further reading. —IB [ Poke ] 13:51, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank you. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 15:31, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Rebel Heart[edit]

Great work on the RH missing articles ;) What will you b working on next?--Chrishm21 (talk) 17:31, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Madonna list[edit]

Hi, IB. Congrats! there are currently several Madonna's article on hold to be GA and FA :). I will ask you, if you can fix (later) the English grammar and mistakes in the List of artists influenced by Madonna?. I'm working on the article now but I will finish later. Also, I was thinking and you know, there is a future biopic about Madonna named Blond Ambition. I think that will be attract readers to Blond Ambition Tour. So, what do you think?, we can work on this article and convert to GA. I can recolect links. Chrishonduras (Diskussion) 18:21, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi @Chrishonduras: yes I agree that Blond Ambition would probably need an article once the film starts production. And yes once you finish with the list do let me know and I will copyedit it. —IB [ Poke ] 04:34, 12 May 2017 (UTC)


Hey Indian! What's up? I have a (random) question. What do you think about this website Do you think it's a reliable source for radio airplay positions? — Tom(T2ME) 17:31, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Tomica. Hmm they do not seem to have any authoritative alignment to give radio positions and are not associated with Nielsen I see. I would say no. —IB [ Poke ] 04:31, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Gaga lead[edit]

Also pinging SNUGGUMS, what do you think of this lead for Gaga's article? – FrB.TG (talk) 18:26, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Not sure about the "vocal abilities" bit (sounds promotional), but otherwise looks fine. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:49, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
@FrB.TG: I think this is absolutely wonderful restructuring. Just minor c/e but I'm very impressed. —IB [ Poke ] 04:13, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

A Head Full of Dreams Tour[edit]

You asked me for source

You can look it from Billboard box-score here :

And please look A Head Full of Dreams Tour. Here's all official (reliable) tour box scores

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esambuu (talkcontribs) 06:00, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

That's fine Esambuu, but it is your onus to archive the urls and then properly add the source to update the total. I still do not see the total being present in the link above. —IB [ Poke ] 06:17, 17 May 2017 (UTC)


I did not revert you. --Jennica / talk 05:07, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

[1]. —IB [ Poke ] 05:08, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Oh. Woops. I thought you meant in the midst of it all. And by the way, the ref template does DMY by default. I'll be sure to watch out for this in the future. --Jennica / talk 05:26, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Youcan set which format you want the dates to be. —IB [ Poke ] 05:30, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
How? Thanks --Jennica / talk 05:44, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
In your preferences, in the monobook.js. —IB [ Poke ] 05:46, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Hm. I don't know. I use the reftoolbar and we might be using two different things. I tried looking this for more info but it's a little confusing. If you can't help, that's ok. I'll just do it manually with my MOSDATE script. --Jennica / talk 07:25, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
  1. ^ "Lady Gaga Earns Her Second Diamond Single". Billboard. Retrieved 2017-05-08.