User talk:Ironholds

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Invitation to an online editathon on Black Women's History[edit]


Black Women's History online edit-a-thon

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I saw that you would be willing to nominate users to become an administrator. I'm fairly new to wikipedia, but have really been enjoying working on counter-vandalism. If you could nominate me, I'd really appreciate it.

Schuddeboomw (talk) 16:18, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

@Schuddeboomw: hey Schuddeboomw. Thanks for pinging me! It's great to see someone enthusiastic about doing more to help the wiki, and I have no doubt that with time you'll be a great person to work as an admin. But as you note, you're pretty new (to the order of a week, by your account contributions) and while your work has been great thus far, voters tend to want to see at least 6 months of experience editing in various areas. Please do let me know if you'd like some pointers, however! Ironholds (talk) 16:41, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your response, I really appreciate it. I'll try to get some more experience and try again in a few years :). Schuddeboomw (talk) 17:32, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

MfD busywork[edit]

Hello Ironholds.

Do you remember your early days, 2008, when you had a penchant for listing dubious userpsace pages at MfD? It was very frustrating to me, trying to review MfD nominations, to have MfD flooded with what seemed like endless worthless but not particularly problematic pages. Well, you've been away form there for a long time, but the place hasn't changed, just the people who engage in the practice of filling it with busywork. At least, that's how it feels to me. I recall getting the impression back then that my comments to your nominations irritated you.

Why did you you stop? Or if you prefer, do you still consider your old MfD nominations worthwhile?

Interestingly, the new editors who do this sort of stuff at MfD often go on to become very valuable Wikipedians Yourself, for example. I've wondered, it this behaviour, which I characterize as "feeding busywork into the MfD process", an attempt by new Wikipedians to gain experience in a variety of Wikipedia processes. Perhaps they linger at MfD because it is a particularly odd place?

I've spent a scary amount of time volunteering at MfD. I wonder if you could give me a few minutes of your time, on your thoughts of that place in hindsight.

--SmokeyJoe (talk) 11:12, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

Hey SmokeyJoe. For me, I suspect I did it because it was relatively clean-cut work. Other venues for that kind of labour - patrolling the articlespace, for example - can be very tense because the costs of getting it wrong are much higher; a misplaced CSD can drive a user off, end up with someone shouting at you, and smudge your record. MfD work over pages by long-since-departed users, or clearly ad-based userpages, have lower costs associated. But I can only speak for me. Ironholds (talk) 16:30, 4 February 2016 (UTC)