User talk:Islandbaygardener

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Speedy deletion of Alexander Smith Cochran[edit]

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A tag has been placed on Alexander Smith Cochran requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

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Speedy deletion of "Ernest Shufflebottom"[edit]

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If you have any questions, please contact an administrator for assistance. Thank you Loren.wilton (talk) 09:15, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

May 2009[edit]

Information.svg Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, please do not add promotional material to articles or other Wikipedia pages, as you did to Visiting card. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" is strongly discouraged. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. It appears that you may be using Wikipedia to promote Te Papa. Please refrain from adding links that do not actually provide any meaningful insight into the article topic. Bdb484 (talk) 14:08, 2 May 2009 (UTC)


Resignation: I joined Wikipedia with the highest of hopes and the best of intentions. I thought to myself "Hey - here's a way to contribute to the greater good". I'm eclectic in my interests and so I thought that the best idea to keep me interested would be to go through the Te Papa's collections and see what connections I could get. You have to start somewhere right? I've put some significant time into learning the ways of Wikipedia but now I give up... My first article on Alexander Smith Cochran was speedily deleted a minute after I put it up. I didn't even get a chance to say - "hey stop I'll work on it". So I learned to use my user page for early drafts and I rewrote it. I speedily learned how to block speedy deletion proposals when my article on Ernest Shufflebottom got nominated. But just recently I've been told I'm "promoting Te Papa". Well I'm over Wikipedia - all this community seems to do is make me feel bad that I'm not doing it right. Why am I am wasting my time? I'm off to spend my spare time on something more constructive.islandbaygardener (talk) 10:15, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry to see you go. You've done some good work here.-gadfium 22:45, 15 May 2009 (UTC)


UnResignation:Thanks for your kind thoughts Gadfium. I appreciate it. Hopefully you'll be pleased to know that I'm back in the Wikipedia fold. I've popped back occasionally in the past 10 months but this time I'm serious. I'm ready to get over myself, reply to any future critics with "if you don't like it, edit it and fix it!" and I'm back on the band wagon. Once again I've chosen to use Te Papa's website and collections as inspiration for articles and I will be including links back to original sources where I find them. islandbaygardener (talk) 05:37, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Welcome Back[edit]

And thank you for the article on Oldman. Chartinael (talk) 08:17, 24 March 2010 (UTC)

Nice article[edit]

I've just read your article Invercauld (ship) and thought what a an interesting story this is - who might the author be? Well, I'm also glad that you've unresigned. Welcome back!

I see you use your user page to draft articles. That's one way of avoiding deletion hassles, but there's an even better way, and that is to set up a subpage for a new article. That way, you can work on more than one article at a time, which is often useful as articles might inter-relate to one another. I have some 30 articles on the go and as I'm doing research on one, I come across info on others and can readily deposit that.

So if you let me know what you would want to call the article that you are working on, I can show you how to set this up so that it's on its own subpage. You can reply here. Schwede66 18:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


Wow! Thanks Chartinael and Schwede I'm starting to feel a bit like Sally Fields at the Oscars... That's three people in a row that have been nice to me... I'd love to know how to set up subpages... I'm doing working through sub-antarctic island ship wrecks so my next bit of work is going to be on General Grant (ship) - will try and add info Derry Castle (barque) - will try and add info /Compadre (ship) - new article /Spirit of the Dawn (ship) - new article /Anjou (ship) - new article Dundonald (ship) - will try and add info /President Félix Fauré (ship) - new article islandbaygardener (talk) 05:59, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Right, I've set you up for subpages on your user page. If you go into edit mode, you can see what I've done:
  • The star at the beginning of each line creates bullet points,
  • The new articles are as per your page names, but they have a leading forward slash. When you click on the redlinks to start those articles, they will be created as subpages to your user page. So the first one will, for the time being, have a name of User:Islandbaygardener/Compadre_(ship).
  • When the article is ready, you can move it into what is called articlespace. Easy to do - will show you later.
By the way, the convention is to have ship names in italics in the article - you achieve that by putting two apostrophes around the words you want to italicise. And when you look at this text, the colon at the beginning of each line achieves the indentation. If you were to reply, you would use two colons, so that the text is indented even further - that keeps the different contributions apart from one another.
Wikipedia has got to be fun - don't worry about the setbacks! There's always help at hand. Schwede66 07:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

'Ie toga article[edit]

Talofa! Excellent you created the 'ie toga, very important in Samoa. I've tried to expand it a bit. If you feel like dropping in at Wikipedia:WikiProject Samoa, it sure needs some help. There's another editor User:Dr. Blofeld who is cool and experienced and helps out now and then. Have a nice day! Teine Savaii (talk) 00:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Articles I'm working on[edit]

Hello Islandbaygardener. In case you haven't seen it, I had set up the above on your user page for you. Schwede66 21:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Duh! Now I get it... islandbaygardener (talk) 22:19, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for 1907 Sub-Antarctic Islands Scientific Expedition[edit]

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Some tips[edit]

Hello, if you wish, I could give you some tips that may come handy when producing new articles. Here's a couple of things:

  • When you have an article ready, you create a new article in the mainspace area by copying and pasting. What's easier is to move the article. On you toolbar, you have a little down arrow. Put your cursor over it and you should see a dialogue box showing 'move'. Left click on it. In the next window, you have an interface where you can give an article a new name (that process is called 'moving'). Simply delete your user name and the forward slash, put a little note into the comment box (e.g. "article ready for publication") and confirm. Done!
  • It's great to see that you use inline citations. When you use a reference more than once in an article, what you do is you fill out the 'Ref name' field. Simply give the reference some name by which you will recognise it. When it comes to using that reference again, click on the little clip board in your toolbar that is to the right of 'Named refs'. You will now get a list of references that you have already defined with a name in the article. Choose the one you wish to use. Done.

If you are unsure about other things, just drop a question here or on my talk page - I'm happy to help. Schwede66 07:07, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Schwede I really value your positive support and help and I'll try your tips out... I'm going to keep trying to learn new skills every time I'm in here. I've kind of given up thinking I'll be able to create the most perfect article in the world though. After I've spent hours getting the information together in what is hopefully a concise and readable article I'm really happy for others to look over it for my mistakes.

Thanks for telling me about how to do multiple references. I tried to figure that out and got completely lost. I'll try again using your instructions. 07:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)


THanks for your input - it could do with some help and the NZ link should be stronger. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 07:53, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


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Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand[edit]

You may have noticed that I added a short piece of text to the talk page for Tales from Te Papa, Talk:Tales from Te Papa. This is just a notice that the page in question falls within Wikipedia:WikiProject New Zealand. With that in place, the project get notified about events related to the page (proposed deletion being the most common). It's also used by some tools for things like picking the correct english variant for spelling. I would encourage you to add page you create to appropriate WikiProjects. Stuartyeates (talk) 21:06, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your comments Stuartyeates. I'm hesitant to engage with WikiProjects as I feel that this may lead to more interaction with other Wikipedians. While the majority of people contributing to this site are delightful and helpful, sometimes I find the tone of communications to be too critical and confrontational for me. I'm happy that others like you are building on my work and bringing pages into the fold of various WikiProjects. I'll think about what you have said and I might give it a try but, if I'm honest, I think this might be a step too far from my comfort zone with Wikipedia. islandbaygardener (talk) 21:34, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry you've had negative interactions with some of our co-editors. In the medium/long term, however, there is no way of avoiding the consensus nature of wikipedia. I would encourage you to push in this direction as fast as your comfort levels permit. Stuartyeates (talk) 22:27, 30 July 2011 (UTC)


We meet again. We suddenly have interest from Derby Museums in your article on Ashby Potters' Guild. The "Wright Challenge" has thrown this up as an article we can QR code from Derby's room and their curator found your article. Fancy giving it a dust? I see there is a picture of Mr Ault and NZ has some of the pots if you could get a free pic. Cheers Victuallers (talk) 17:07, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Victuallers, I've had a look at the article and given it a bit of a polish with as much information as I can find online. I've tried to find better information on the appearances at Expos but haven't managed to trace any scanned copies of catalogues or such yet. I also can't find any freely-licensed images of Ashby Potters' Guild works. Te Papa owns copyright in the images they hold and I know they have a commercial picture library so that's out. Also the one image in Flickr that I can find has a copyright status of all rights reserved so no luck there either.islandbaygardener (talk) 04:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Use of italics in ship name[edit]

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Hello, Islandbaygardener. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests#Use of italics in ship name.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I moved your post to the bottom of the page. -- John of Reading (talk) 16:37, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Answer for for future reference: Use of Italics in title of Ship Article islandbaygardener (talk) 01:05, 21 April 2013 (UTC)

Nomination of Humphrey Ikin for deletion[edit]

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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Command and Conquer Expert! speak to me... 04:54, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Alfred Henry Burton[edit]

Hi Islandbaygardener, good to see that you are still producing articles (or shall I say again?). I've spotted a problem with close paraphrasing in one of your early works on the Alfred Henry Burton article. Have a look at the article's talk page. I'm sure that you can get that fixed up in no time these days. Keep up your good work. Schwede66 20:09, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you[edit]

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Thank you for taking part remotely in the #NZspecies Edit-a-thon and helping us create much-needed species articles. It was great to have you as part of the team. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 01:22, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

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