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Dear TheIslander,

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--PEAR 19:0-0, August User:PEAR/FriendlyDay 2006 (UTC)

SJA logo

I'm sorry you feel my twice removing the logo qualifies as "persistent reversion". It seems to me like you find the use of the term offensive because your edit was made entirely in good faith; don't take it personally! It's just part of the jargon some editors tend to use here on Wikipedia, and it often occurs that editors misunderstand that the St. John Ambulance article doesn't just refer to the England/Wales organisation. By the way, thanks for rooting out a better version of the Welsh logo by the way, the tiny gif was the best I could find. --Kwekubo 00:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Test

Testing my new signature... _TheIslander 13:13, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, TheIslander! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. ^∆ 22:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Help me if you can?

A certain user has made a fake article, albeit a semi-beleivable one, on numerous pages listed below. I don't know what to do to warn them of vandalism, but I did revert the edits, at least for the second article. Could you please deal with the user? i'm asking you because you seem to know how to do this sort of thing, and posted a previous warning on their page.

User: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:London_Weekend_Television

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenardo_Da_Vinci_1452

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_characters_in_the_Animal_Crossing_series

Thanks,

aeryka 04:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

CITV website

I have only changed it to www.citv.co.uk, as you said because itv.com/citv currently does not redirect to the site. Once this is sorted out, I will revert my edits.
GMc^talk 01:20, 04 August 2007 (UTC)

itv.com/citv is the advertised address by CITV, therefore this is the address that should be in the article.
GMc^talk 21:28, 08 August 2007 (UTC)

CITV do not advertise citv.co.uk as their address.
GMc^talk 21:35, 08 August 2007 (UTC)

Dragons' Den image

I've indicated this as the rationale for the image use. Hope this help.

The CBC (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) created this image as part of the Press kit for the show Dragons' Den.

CBC reference links: http://www3.cbc.ca/imagegallery/television/index.html http://www3.cbc.ca/imagegallery/television/affairs/dragonsden/dragonsden.jpg

– Kempton "Ideas are the currency of the future." - a quote by Kevin Roberts 01:14, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for adding the rationale template. Now I know what to expect in the various fields, I will have a better chance to get it right next time. (smile) Many thanks. – Kempton "Ideas are the currency of the future." - a quote by Kevin Roberts 05:44, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Listerslashrimmer

Thanks for that! It's yet another sock of User: Nam3witha3init. I've indefinitely blocked them now. Thanks again :) - Alison ☺ 21:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Red Dwarf page and your comments to anonymous user

" Please assume good faith when dealing with other editors, which you did not on Red Dwarf (TV series). Your comment about 'hacking' is a clear attack against those of us who are trying to keep the article in good shape. A consensus has been reached on the talk page, and it has thus been decided that the expletives section should be cut down. Please do not continue replacing it. Thank you. _TheIslander 11:55, 9 August 2007 (UTC)"

How about you don't assume "hacking" is a personal attack? A consensus has not been reached on the subject - your interest in supporting efforts to keep an article in good shape is appreciated, but please don't stray into aggressive "policing" - thankyou. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.157.212.8 (talk) 16:14, 10 August 2007

What else could hacking mean? And I'm affraid, whether you like it or not, a consensus was reached. _TheIslander 20:12, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Re: Barnstar and WP:BBC

Thanks very much for the Barnstar, and also

Welcome!

Hi, and welcome to the BBC WikiProject! We're a group of editors working to improve Wikipedia's coverage of the British Broadcasting Corporation.

If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask another fellow member, and we'll be happy to help you. Again, welcome! We look forward to seeing you around! Unisouth

Boy1jhn 07:39, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Jake Thomas

Thanks for changing the description for my link, it sounds much better that way. Nssnss 20:27, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem, glad to help ;) _TheIslander 21:57, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Sorry!

Hey. You just left a message on my IP's talk page about ratings of BBC articles. I did not realize I was not logged in! Tiddly Tom 17:21, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, OK, fair enough. Sorry for the confusion ;) _TheIslander 17:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem :) Where can I find a list of unassessed articles. I have tried a number of places, but many of the articles there have already been assessed. Tiddly Tom 17:29, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, the big list in the assessment centre should be updated roughly every 24 hours (automatically), and it'll tell you those articles that are unassessed (at bottom of list). However, I'm afraid I've had a very empty day, and I've just snapped through the whole lot, and I'm fairly sure that there are none left that haven't been assessed. Sorry :(. What can be done, however, is that there are still a number of BBC related articles out there that haven't even had a box added, let alone tagged, so searching those out is useful. _TheIslander 17:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject ratings

This made me laugh. Cold Feet was on ITV. Nevermind, mistakes happen! Brad 08:25, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Gah, idiot :(. Thanks for sorting that out ;) _TheIslander 10:30, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject BBC

Hey, as you sceem to be one of the more active members of the project, I thought I would come and talk to you about it before going to the project. If you read This article from BBC NEWS you will see they announce that they will be making (what looks to me) to be a new channel. Do you think it should have it's own article now, as when it is out, you will want as much information about it available on wikipedia as possible. (When something new comes out, I often look for the article on wikipeida about it ;) ) Thanks. Tiddly Tom 20:11, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Well, it seems to me that the article discusses two things. The on-demand stuff is BBC iPlayer, which already has an article. The older-teen version of CBBC has been on the cards since CBBC was re-structured, and 11-16 year-olds cut out. Though it'll undoubtably need an article when more's known, unfortunatly I think it'll currently fail WP:Notability, as barely anything's known right now. Give it a month or two, though, and that might change - what with CBBC re-branding again on September 3 2007, it would seem to me to be the opportune moment for the BBC to introduce something new. _TheIslander 21:15, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Dinosapien

Excellent work on the Dinosapien page! :-) Cls14 12:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Hehe, it was nothing, I only added an infobox. Thanks for the praise, though, much appreciated ;). I plan to have a jab at expanding it further sometime, if time permits. _TheIslander 12:42, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Help

Could you do me a favor and take a look at the edit war going on at Gary Peters (Michigan politician). It doesn't really seem to be a POV dispute, but really a conservative political group publicizing its campaign.209.254.46.34 21:04, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Right now it doesn't look too bad, but I'll keep an eye on it, and take appropriate action if anything else happens ;) _TheIslander 21:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree, it isn't horrible now, but earlier this user had added poll data from conservative blogs and was uploading all kinds of information from those biased sites. Is there any wikipedia policy re: referencing sites that are themselves biased?209.254.46.34 21:11, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:SOAP would be the main policy to follow here, closely followed by WP:NPOV. WP:RS would certainly come into play as well - take a look at those, and you'll know what's acceptable and what's not. If it is replaced, revert it (though be aware of the three revert rule). If it continues, or if the article seriously starts to fail WP:SOAP, get in touch, and I'll se about getting the page either protected or (much more likely) deleted, for failing WP:N. Cheers, _TheIslander 21:22, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Felix Faure

You reverted my changes for no obvious purpose. I made my contribution in good faith, to moderate an unproven historical point and add some insights as are widely known and taught locally (in France). I have no intention to enter in a controversy, so do as you please. If you take a couple of seconds to reread my contrib, I'm sure you'd notice was balanced and add historical quotations previously missing.. 82.124.41.29 22:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC).

You're quite right - I'm so sorry :(. I saw the phrase 'oral sex', but assumed it to be the article in it's present state, so reverted it in the hope of getting it back to your version. An honest mistake - I'm very sorry. _TheIslander 22:54, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Errare humanum, perseverare diabolicum, est. ;-).82.124.41.29 23:16, 15 August 2007 (UTC).

Cbbc on Choice

please don't delete cbbc on choice i made that page my self —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gladboy (talk • contribs)

I'm well aware that you did, but it's an article that's not needed - the info is already available elsewhere, it is not notable in itself. Please do not remove AfD templates; they are needed so that the discussion can go ahead. Please also be aware that your constant uploading of copyrighed images is against a number of different Wikipedia rules, and you will be banned for it. _TheIslander 13:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

As a new editor, they're probably immensely proud of their new page and won't know what's wrong with it. Take it gently as they won't know the rules & stuff - Alison ☺ 13:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Islander - got your message & I've just had a word - Alison ☺ 13:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok - he's stopped now & has posted an apology to you on my talk page. It looks like he's a new editor and is in need of a bit of help and guidance. It's bedtime for me here, so could you maybe give him a few minutes and nudge him in the right direction? - Alison ☺ 13:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Of course, not a problem. Thanks for your help, Alison, and enjoy your 4 hours (only 4 hours!?!) sleep ;) _TheIslander 13:38, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Islander i'm very sorry for the edits as alisons says i am new and just a bit of a nudge i also made the moment of truth gameshow page why don't you have a look a tell me what you think. ☺ 14.44,16 august 2007 (UTC)

Not a problem ;). To quote my response on Alison's page:

Appology accepted ;). Your edits certainly seem to be in good faith; there are just a few rules that you need to be aware of, particularly WP:NFC (with regards to images), and WP:N (with regards to your new article). I'm certainly happy to help, just ask anytime on my talk page ;)

Moment of Truth looks like a good start, though there are a couple of things you should be aware of: Firstly, notability. It looks like it's a notable show, but you should try and find some reliable sources to back you up. Secondly, the picture: it is a copyright violation, I'm afraid. You might want to try adding a copyright plate, and a fair use rationale. Other than that, good start ;). _TheIslander 13:53, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Windows IE

Sorry, I messed up the Internet Explorer article. Can you reverse it please? Thank you! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superkirbyartist (talk • contribs) 16:25, 16 August 2007

I don't actually see any contributions from you recently for that article, unless you are the anon IP. What have you messed up? _TheIslander 15:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for helping protect my user and talk pages. It's unfortunate that people like that have to cause such trouble. Spigot Map 16:02, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem at all - glad to help ;) _TheIslander 16:02, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Would you like your pages protected? Ground Zero | t 16:17, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Might be a good idea, thanks ;) _TheIslander 16:17, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting the vandal on my user page. I've got a fan... Oh, joy. -- Gogo Dodo 17:10, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

No probs ;) _TheIslander 17:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Persistent fellow. =\ He seems to have given up. Thanks again. =) -- Gogo Dodo 17:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Not so much "given up" as had nearly every IP he has access to blocked ;) _TheIslander 17:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe. They're all DSL line addresses in Toronto. This could have gone on for a really long time. Well, if there was a quota to fulfill on blocking per day, I think I hit it. =) -- Gogo Dodo 17:37, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Hehehe, me too - just look at the history for my userpage =P _TheIslander 17:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Good job with battling the forces of Coprophagia! :P Gogo Dodo showed me where it all started and that's just insane... what's more 1/4 of my watchlist is now filled with this... Sweet work though. (Er, to you, I mean. Not to our ip vandal.) :) -WarthogDemon 18:04, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliments; much appreciated ;) _TheIslander 18:17, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I'm chiming in a bit late, but I would also like to thank you for reverting vandalism on my userpage. So... thanks! ~ Danelo 21:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

It's never to late - thanks' are always appreciated - thank you ;) _TheIslander 21:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyright

how do you get a copywright for the pictures —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gladboy (talk • contribs)

Well, if you took the pictures, it's easy - just release them to the public. Take a look at the Wikimedia Commons.

However, I have a feeling you're talking about screencaps, as they're what you've been uploading. They're much more tricky, and for them you must follow a lot more rules. For starters, you need to obtain them from legal sources, which would basically be a screencap of the show itself. Sources like Youtube are, 99.99% of the time, not legal. You'll have to carefully read WP:NFC, and follow the instructions it gives. The two most important things you need to include are a copyright plate (see dropdown box at bottom of upload area, and a rationale, which must include source, claim for fair use, and a couple of other bits and pieces. Take a look at the links I've given - they'll help you out ;) _TheIslander 20:13, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		I hereby award you the RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar for your efforts in reverting a particularly persistent vandal. Thanks again for helping out! -- Gogo Dodo 19:18, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Squee! My first barnstar! Thank you, Gogo Dodo, very, very much appreciated ;) (I tell you, it's extremely rare for me to 'squee' =P ) _TheIslander 20:00, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

And well deserved it was, too. You were very helpful and understanding with a certain newbie editor yesterday! - Alison ☺ 20:06, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Alison ;) _TheIslander 20:14, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

		The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
		You deserve this. You went the extra mile to assume good faith on behalf of a new editor, then went out of your way to help them. Well done :) Alison ☺ 21:22, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

*Islander feels the tears welling up as he receives his second ever barnstar in the same day that he received his first*

=P

Thank you so much Alison - I really appreciate that ;) _TheIslander 21:26, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		Awarded for reverting edits by multiple vandals to my user page. Thanks for dealing with it so I didn't have to. Keep up the good work! Infernal Inferno 01:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Many many thanks, Infernal Inferno, very much appreciated ;) _TheIslander 18:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Neutral Point of View?

I don't understand how I am violating this policy ... I read the guidelines AFTER I posted the first time and that was my mistake. But after reading it, I still don't understand how I am violating a policy by posting an album review. Can you explain this to me please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrjourney (talk • contribs) 22:42, 17 August 2007

I certainly can, though I'm afraid that you've already been blocked, as despite my warnings and final warning, you continued to submit, breaching policies including the three revert rule. As I stated, take a look at WP:NPOV - a review contains opinion, and opinions are not what Wikipedia is about. _TheIslander 21:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I've given Jrjourney a second chance. If you would like to monitor this (as you indicated you might), that would be much appreciated. Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 00:45, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that; I'll certainly keep an eye open. _TheIslander 00:54, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

DLR

Hi i work for serco dlr thats how i know about the VO many thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielthesaint (talk • contribs) 18:48, 18 August 2007

It'd still be nice if you could provide a reliable source for this - signage on the rolling stock still use PSA. _TheIslander 18:24, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

you know what a traffic notice is? it tells us whats happing in the week and it does not say PSA it says VO rolling stock still use PSA...may i ask do you work or know anybody who works at DLR? also at the end doors of the train it says NOTE TO VEHICLE OPERATOR —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danielthesaint (talk • contribs) 20:21, 18 August 2007

Please sign your comments by typing ~~~~, which Wikipedia converts to a signature and timestamp. Nope, I don't work for the DLR, Serco or even TfL (though I'd really love a go at pressing buttons under that so-tempting looking pannel at the front... =P ). I am, however, an infrequent passenger on the DLR, and, as it happens, used it last week. It seems that, as far as the public are concerned, it's still PSA for the moment - see here, specifically "The Passenger Service Agent can drive trains in a manual mode with all the protection of Automatic Train Protection. If the Passenger Service Agent attempts to over speed or depart when a route has not been set, the train will automatically apply the emergency brakes preventing further movement.". Also, as I mentioned, signage still uses PSA. As for the "note at the end doors of the train", I assume you mean on the platform? If so, I suspect that that's just an internal phrase, but that you're still a PSA to us. If you can find an online, publically available source, preferably from TfL, DLR or Serco themselves, that confirm that they are indeed now refered to as VO's, then I see no problem with it staying as such. If, as I suspect, however, it's just a new internal phrase, then it's not really best for Wikipedia. Thanks, _TheIslander 19:34, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Danielthesaint 19:42, 18 August 2007 (UTC) i know how the train works i operate them and the end doors are on the train where you the public seat thinking its a bloody rollercoaster next time you seat at the EDP (where we somtimes drive the train) you can read it...

Gah, don't be so grumpy - it's great fun, 'tis like the underground, but you can see out the front! The only reason you don't find it amazing is 'cause it's what you do every day :P. Do you mean the sign that says something like "Please be prepared to give up this seat if the PSA [VO] needs to operate the train from the front", or something like that? If so, then I'll admit defeat, as that'll be proof enough for me. (quick tip - 'tis usual to sign your post at the end). _TheIslander 19:44, 18 August 2007 (UTC)