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Welcome[edit]

Welcome!

Hello, JG66, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Your GA nomination of Love You To[edit]

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Hi, JG66, The article has passed, great work. It was a pleasure working with you again. Moisejp (talk) 23:45, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
@Moisejp: Again, thank you so much for the review. And ditto from me: I always enjoy working on these song articles with you. I especially appreciate the spirit of collaboration you bring to the process each time – it's not something that every reviewer necessarily applies, unfortunately! All the best, JG66 (talk) 02:27, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

out/in deep waters, also sprach Yoko[edit]

  • These are deep waters that may be better left ... out.. of the article:

One problem with a book of this nature is that of consistency. Let me take a

few examples. Speaking of the track “Revolution 1” (The Beatles) as part of his lengthy consideration of “Tomorrow Never Knows,” Reising declares that “the band pointedly follows the lines, ‘But if you talk about destruction / Don’t you know that you can count me out,’ by adding ‘in’ to replace ‘out’... the slower, mellower version carries a harder revolutionary punch” (126). Yet in “We All Want to Change the World: Postmodern Politics and the Beatles’ White Album,” Jeffrey Roessner’s consideration of that same album interprets Lennon offering “a statement of his own confusion”:

He sings, “When you talk about destruction, / Don’t you know that you can count me out... in.” In his indecision, he gives equal weight to both the “out” and “in.” By the time the Beatles recorded the faster, raunchier version... Lennon had made a commitment. . . . he wanted to be counted “out.” (149) Well, which is it? We should note that Reising takes an ahistoricized view, comparing the two versions (“Revolution” and “Revolution 1”) as equally present, whereas Roessner’s phrase “by the time” indicates a more nuanced position. Logically, perhaps, either “in” replaces “out,” or it doesn’t. Or, perhaps more advantageously, we need to acknowledge that whether or not “in” replaces “out” is a matter of interpretation, a matter of taste, a matter that cannot be objectively determined. That realization is crucial, and the didactic tone of some of this writing seems not to admit the possibility

...and also sprach Yoko, in a bit with several other usable quotes, see "hodgepodge"

[1] But I will make one tiny point. Revolution "in" and "out" seemed to have been a big issue for the revolutionaries in those days. John was simply saying his spirit was "in" but his body was "out". A confession of a truly conceptual guy. His idea of

revolution was without violence.

Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 16:16, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

new thread about editing and jstor[edit]

  • Hey, I thought about editing either the article or your sandbox, but I guess I just don't have the passion for this topic that you do. Do you have access to JSTOR? This article (below) explains why the Beatles are modernist rather than postmodernist, and the explanation resonates with comments in other articles: "Nothing's going to change my world": Narrating Memory and Selfhood with the Beatles: Kenneth Womack, Style, Vol. 44, No. 1-2, New Psychologies and Modern Assessments (Spring/Summer 2010), pp. 261-281. There are several other useful-looking articles, including one written by someone named Tim Riley, though I dunno if it's the same Tim who edits here. This article also seems quite informative: "Helter-Skelter"?: The Beatles, the British New Left, and the Question of Hegemony. Oded Heilbronner, Interdisciplinary Literary Studies, Vol. 13, No. 1/2 (Fall 2011), pp. 87-107. Lingzhi ♦ (talk) 07:01, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I Knew You Were Trouble[edit]

Sorry for interrupting. I noticed that Slant Magazine said that the song "bass drops" into an arrangements which is a "pop rock arrangements". And just like Let the Groove Get In section where says has a pop arrangement which not means a pop song genre. 123.136.106.165 (talk) 03:05, 19 January 2016 (UTC)

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References in quote boxes[edit]

According to Template:Quote/doc, citations can be placed ‘[a]fter the quoted person's name, in |author=, when a |source= is not being added’ and ‘[a]fter the source title, in |source= (the preferred location when both attribution parameters are present)’. I know that's not {{quote box}}, I don't see why a distinction would be made between quote boxes and block quotations in general. Esszet (talk) 14:54, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

@Esszet: Thank you for starting a discussion (although I was actually referring to the article's talk page). I appreciate that you don't see why a distinction should be made between the scenarios, but I (and many others, it seems) do. I pointed to the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band FA as an example where the same approach was used as in "Love You To" – box quote accompanied by the citation; speaker given below – and that's the approach I have always followed, having seen it applied so often when I started expanding song and album articles for GA nomination (mid 2012 or thereabouts). So I think it stands, for those reasons. And yes, in my opinion, it just looks better. JG66 (talk) 15:14, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
If you go here, you'll see that such usage is far from universal. I'll take this to the template's talk page; this would not be the appropriate place to attempt to develop a consensus about this. Esszet (talk) 20:14, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Songs by George Harrison[edit]

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Songs by George Harrison has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]

SAVOY TRUFFLE[edit]

Me and my Friend TheBeatlesExpert0123,The Beatles Bible agree that the horn's were from Good Morning Good Morning Liron54 (talk) 01:59, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of It's All Too Much[edit]

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So far, I've held off going through the citations and references until you've had a chance to address the points at Talk:It's All Too Much/GA1. Should I start on them as is? —Ojorojo (talk) 16:24, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
@Ojorojo: Sorry, I had no idea you'd even started on the review. The page is on my watch list, of course, but I'd not received any notification of recent activity at Talk:It's All Too Much (which I appreciate would be transcluded from Talk:It's All Too Much/GA1). Bizarre. I'll start on it as soon as I can. JG66 (talk) 02:17, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

DYK for Songs by George Harrison[edit]

Coffee // have a cup // beans // 12:02, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Sources[edit]

I don't mean to bother you with this task, but for the "Recording" section of the "Norwegian Wood" article, I could use one or two more sources. I have one book that could cover everything; however, I would prefer variety if that's possible. Thanks for your time.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 20:01, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

@TheGracefulSlick: Hey it's no bother – I'll see you there. I agree a bit of variety's always good, especially when there are so many books and other sources covering the subject. JG66 (talk) 02:22, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of I'll Still Love You[edit]

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Your GA nomination of It's All Too Much[edit]

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Your GA nomination of It Is 'He' (Jai Sri Krishna)[edit]

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The article It Is 'He' (Jai Sri Krishna), which you nominated as a good article has passed its GA nomination; see the talkpage for eventual comments about the article. Well done! I left two notes, as they didn't affect the GA process, the one about the links, and the one about the George Harrison's templates. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 21:06, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of It Is 'He' (Jai Sri Krishna)[edit]

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Flub vs. fluff[edit]

It must be a British/American thing. In the US, "fluff" as a verb means to make something softer and fuller. It's what you do to a pillow. I have never heard "fluff" used to mean to make a mistake. We use "flub." I'm not sure which word should appear about an event done by Americans and Brits in the US.Bob Caldwell CSL (talk) 14:11, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Hey Bob Caldwell CSL. That's interesting – there does seem to be a division in meaning, doesn't there. It is a BritEng-style article, but I take your point. I'll try to think of something suitably mid-Atlantic! Cheers, JG66 (talk) 14:22, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

GA review for The Inner Light[edit]

Hi, I will review this article, although it may take some time, I'm not the quickest. Hekerui (talk) 20:15, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Hekerui. Thanks for taking it on. Looking forward to your review. Cheers, JG66 (talk) 01:41, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. It'll take until Easter, I apologize. Hekerui (talk) 12:01, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
@Hekerui: Ah well. It'll give me a chance to read through the article myself over the next few days, and maybe pick up one or two things. Do you think it might be an idea to add a comment on the review page, just to keep the GAR "alive"? JG66 (talk) 02:02, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

You'll get my writeup, Friday at the latest. Best wishes Hekerui (talk) 19:26, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks, Hekerui. All good. Cheers, JG66 (talk) 01:40, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
I finally put something up, thanks for your patience. Hekerui (talk) 15:14, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Congratulations on another GA. I know this is not PR but how often does one get a critical eye on one's articles on here? Never. (Although the Beatles were popular so maybe you do.) This is why I was picky despite my terrible delay in starting. Also, maybe you're interested to know that every year the Berlin embassy of India has Kamalesh Maitra memorial concerts where all his pupils play, the next one is on April 11. I've never gone, I admit, and I didn't have the chance to see him, but his memory lives on. I surely want to help if you need another review on an article on ICM. All the best for you! Hekerui (talk) 22:07, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

@Hekerui: Oh please don't worry about the delay – nor the level of scrutiny. The article obviously needed it. And besides, if I'm honest about it, I could have done a whole lot more after saying above that I'd be re-reading the text in the meantime.
I'd love to catch one of those Maitra memorial concerts; I've got a brother living not too far away who raves about Berlin generally – could be a good reason to meet up there … (What I'd really, really like to have done is catch Maitra, Hariprasad, Shivkumar, Rakha, Lakshmi et al. at one of Ravi's Music Festival from India concerts in 1974. Alas, as with almost all the music I like, I was born way too late!)
And thank you for the offer to review in the future. You know, I just wish there was a biography or two on Ravi Shankar, or at least a study of all his works. I've got Raga Mala and My Music, My Life, but until I find a couple of dedicated 3rd-party sources, I don't feel that any of the Shankar articles I've started or worked on are really worthy of GA nomination. JG66 (talk) 06:55, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thank you for your work on the Revolver article. While I was reading it, I realized it was really good, enough so I checked for a Good Article plus. Tagus 07:10, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

@Tagus: Thank you so much, that's very kind of you! And thanks for the encouragement, because the Revolver article has long, long been on my to-do list to finish & nominate for GA … Best, JG66 (talk) 07:46, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Within You Without You[edit]

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Italics + quotes for lyrics[edit]

I brought this up at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Text formatting#Use of italics plus quote marks for song lyrics and poetry, but there hasn't been any interest. Any ideas? Be bold? —Ojorojo (talk) 16:09, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ojorojo. Thanks for starting that, I'll come along and add something soon. Funny thing is, last week I was looking at a song article and thought "Aha, there's an excellent example of that ital + quotes issue and why it's useful ..." Can I remember what the article was, now? No … JG66 (talk) 19:30, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
Yes, what you see when you haven't got a gun ... I haven't found a good example in a style guide. WP:POETRY#Style for quoting from poems says "Do not italicize quoted text" and the examples just show quote marks. Good hunting. —Ojorojo (talk) 20:25, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Long, Long, Long[edit]

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Stunned at your contributions! Recovering... Sainsf <^>Feel at home 15:37, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

@Sainsf: Ha – too much! In my sign-off at the review just now, I mentioned the many exclamation marks we contributed there – I guess I felt slightly self-conscious, knowing it's a GA Review. Anyway, no restrictions on exclamation marks when it comes to user talk pages …!! Thanks again – it's been such a pleasure with "Long, Long, Long", writing it and the GA process with you. And that "sunset near Königswalde (Germany)" on your user page – I still haven't got over that yet … JG66 (talk) 16:31, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

If you think we should try to be formal on GA review pages, Talk:Bay duiker/GA1 will make you rethink! And to be honest, I spent hours searching for the most breathtaking panoramas on Commons! Wish I could add tons of them to my userpage. Sainsf <^>Feel at home 16:59, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Savoy Truffle[edit]

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Excellent work!! Any chance I could interest you in Wp:Atdrag. I don't know if you like the Stereophonics or Manic Street Preachers, but they're on my core list. If you feel like expanding a Welsh band/album or musician this month it would be a great help! It could even be something like that cottage Led Zeppelin used to stay at! Ritchie333 and page stalkers are quite welcome too!♦ Dr. Blofeld 10:13, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

@Dr. Blofeld: thank you, that's very kind. And that's an admirable initiative you've got going, Wp:Atdrag, I'm well impressed – but at the same time I'm afraid I'll have to decline. I'm just stretched so thin right now – my list of GAs-in-the-making doesn't even begin to cover it! I'll try to look in at a Stereophonics or Manic Street Preachers article, see if I can add some contemporary reviews if nothing else. You've pricked my interest with the Zeppelin cottage too, which gets me thinking about (the great, great) Ronnie Lane's time in Wales – I know I've got Mojo or Uncut features on both of those … Good luck with it anyway, Doc. JG66 (talk) 13:07, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of The Inner Light (song)[edit]

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Sunshine of Your Love and Harrison[edit]

Hello JG66, I am wondering about a recent edit to "Sunshine of Your Love" and you're the George expert: "Beatle George Harrison also contributed to the track, though his work went uncredited" with Bill Drake & The History of Rock & Roll 1981 (a radio series) as the source.[2] I didn't find anything at Google books with "harrison" and "sunshine of your love" and the series is not searchable. Is there anything to this? —Ojorojo (talk) 21:32, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ojorojo. That's a new one on me, and I would've thought GH & EC's friendship began a little later in 1967, if not early 1968 (at least in terms of hanging out and exchanging ideas). One thing's almost definite: there's no way Harrison was in New York over April–May '67, so that would count out him participating in the session, if that was his supposed contribution. I suppose all you can do is introduce the point as a claim, unless you're really sure the whole thing's baloney … (PS: "Expert"? – I'm flattered!) Cheers, JG66 (talk) 01:11, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
The editor added it to the "Recording" section and uses "track". Your info on the time frame (and lack of any other RS) rules that out. He probably got SOYL mixed up with "Badge", which is also in the same radio episode and mentions Harrison. Thanks! —Ojorojo (talk) 16:00, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Only a Northern Song[edit]

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Reminder[edit]

You do not own any article on the Beatles. Caden cool 04:42, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

@Caden: Of course I don't, and I enjoy working with others on these articles. But you're sure acting like you own articles here. Taking "Ticket to Ride", that's just ridiculous, the attention afforded the Carpenters' version (the inclusion of a personnel list for example). JG66 (talk) 04:49, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Actually it's you who is acting like you own it, not me. The Carpenters section and list was not written by me. Both were a part of the article way before I ever edited that page. Just because you write GA articles does not mean you own them nor does it mean you are better than others who edit. Caden cool 04:54, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Ticket to Ride[edit]

In Fred Bronson's book of Billboard number one hits, Paul McCartney is given songwriting credit to "Ticket to Ride" so I'm not sure why you undid my edits. Caden cool 15:03, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

@Caden: Well, take it to the article's talk page. There's a couple of editors here I want to ask about this same issue: when so many Beatles biographers or other sources seem to sidestep McCartney's claims (and it's particularly noticeable in Womack 2014, because the author goes on to quotes from Miles 1997, p 193). I'm not undoing your edits per se, Caden, I'm trying to expand the article and give the subject the attention it deserves. JG66 (talk) 15:14, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
It's very weird to me that Paul McCartney is being sidestepped by biographers/sources. I like him and his music so it's just weird he's not getting credit. Anyway your idea of asking others is a good one. I think it's best that you bring it up on the talk page. Is this okay with you? Caden cool 15:23, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Well, he is seen as something of a revisionist, obsessed with his legacy, to put it mildly. I'd read Howard Sounes' book and others, but I hadn't appreciated just how much this was the case until I worked on Paul McCartney: Many Years from Now. So, I'm not too surprised to see McCartney's claims to Miles treated as such (i.e. as "claims") by biographers and authors who are otherwise generous towards McCartney. JG66 (talk) 15:50, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
After looking at the book article of "McCartney: Many Years from Now", I think I see what you mean. Caden cool 18:29, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
Could you please explain to me why you are undoing nearly all of my edits? It makes no sense why you reinstated the "Other versions" section when none of those covers charted and they do not pass WP:SONGCOVER so I'm not sure what you are doing. I was editing "Ticket to Ride" way before you showed up and I feel you have literally took it over. I'm trying very hard to work with you but I'm getting the feeling you are not interested. Caden cool 15:11, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
@Caden: You can see I'm trying to expand the article, right? I made sure to provide an explanation in that edit: they don't have to have charted but they need to have had some discussion/critical commentary. If I can't find that for the versions I've brought back in, then they go, but like all the Beatles' best known songs, "Ticket to Ride"'s attracted a huge amount of covers and, perhaps more importantly, in a wide range of styles – so it can't just be ignored. But to repeat, I am expanding the article not undoing your edits. I'm sorry you feel I'm taking over, but I feel the article was completely underplaying the importance of this song, and I feel you're more interested in simply keeping it the way you had it than seeing the subject suitably represented on Wikipedia. JG66 (talk) 15:27, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
PS. Please could you carry on this thread at the article talk page. I don't want to carry on here. JG66 (talk) 15:28, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Yes I see you are expanding the article which is good and you are doing a good job at it. However I feel the "other versions" should not be reinstated for the reasons I provided. I also feel my Fred Bronson book ref supporting McCartney as co-writer should be included but since you removed my edit I won't re add it. I will leave "Ticket to Ride" for good and let you do what you need. You are a very good GA content writer and you know what you are doing. Good luck and keep up the good edits. Caden cool 15:39, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
Well, I'd say Assume Good Faith. As I've said, none of those "other artists" covers will stay if I can't find the necessary commentary, although I've got sources for some already. But if we're talking about what should or should not be in the article, please note that, aside from the mention of all those Manchester groups preceding the song at number 1 in 1965 (and the list of other covers of course), I think I'm right in saying that the only non-sourced info in the whole article is around half of the text dedicated to the Carpenters' version. Meaning, that content is just as questionable.
Thank you for the compliment regarding GA writing. But hey, you don't have to leave the article for good, no one has to – you've just got to let other editors try to improve it. As for the Fred Bronson book, what does he say, that the song was written by John Lennon and Paul McCartney? Well, yes, that's how it's credited, but the only challenge to it being a Lennon composition in reality (as "Yesterday" is McCartney's) has come from McCartney in Many Years from Now. I get the impression that authors since then have ignored the claim, and in fact I've long been saying we ought to use that book with caution. As soon I made the change, I got a thank-you notification from an editor I know from working on WP:Beatles articles. There are currently four refs to support Lennon's authorship, and I reckon I could come up with four more, no problem. So if you want to pursue this, would you mind taking it to the article talk page? Cheers, JG66 (talk) 16:16, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

"Something" lyrics[edit]

Thanks for the link. I tried to find them using various combinations of "something" "beatles" "official" "lyrics" without success. I guess "thebeatles.com" would have been too easy. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:00, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Hey, no probs. It's somewhat disconcerting to see Wikipedia's article on the song come up there – but heck, it's the band's official site, so one has to assume they've cleared the copyright issue for the lyrics! JG66 (talk) 15:58, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Blue Jay Way[edit]

The first image looks nothing like the view from Blue Jay Way, which is more important for the article. In fact, it is not possible to see downtown L.A. from behind the Hollywood Hills. I hope there are are more suitable images for the article. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:33, 6 May 2016 (UTC)

@Ojorojo: Oh cripes. So the description for the image, "Los Angeles from the Hollywood Hills", at Commons, is incorrect? (I like much of the music that has come out of LA, but I'm nowhere on the geography.) I could always move forward the image that appears towards the end of the article – "Downtown L.A. at night, as seen from the Hollywood Hills" (apparently). What was appropriate about the first image, I thought, was the smog-covered skyline … JG66 (talk) 15:16, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
That view is from the top of the eastern end of the hills, not behind. Also, fog should not be confused with smog (L.A. has both). The night photo is also taken from much further east. There should be photos from the site.[3]Ojorojo (talk) 16:55, 6 May 2016 (UTC)16:53, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
@Ojorojo: Yes, I'm aware of the difference between fog and smog. What I thought was fitting for the start of the article was a shot of a hazy/misty/foggy/smoggy LA skyline. Having already investigated what's available at Commons, I'd rather live with what's in the article currently. (Plus, I can't see us being able to justify including any of those zillow.com pics.) So the only question is, what geographical details would be correct to put in the captions for the two images, do you know? JG66 (talk) 00:53, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
On the Westside it can get foggy at times and I've heard people refer to it as smog. Anyway, the captions used at Commons are correct. The ridge in the first photo is in Griffith Park and the view wouldn't be described as "from behind the Hollywood Hills" (that would be the San Fernando Valley). If you're happy with the photo (although the view from Harrison's house is quite different), a better caption might be "View of downtown Los Angeles from Griffith Park" or "from the eastern end of the Hollywood Hills". The second photo is taken from near the Hollywood Bowl and caption is fine. BTW, when the editor that added the bold to the time signature returns from break, I am going to ask if it can be defeated for use in text. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:29, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
@Ojorojo: Sorry if I was a bit snappy there. Thank you for the factual info re Hollywood Hills (or what's not the Hills). Much appreciated – I'll be changing the caption(s) accordingly. Far as that time sig template goes, yes the bold treatment is a problem, but imo the thing looks so out of place in text anyway. I'm not surprised it's rarely/never used in song articles, at least from all those I've seen. JG66 (talk) 00:36, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Images of Hello, Goodbye[edit]

We should leave the images alone (i.e. retained in the article). I've already put it up for discussion at FFD. Removing it during discussion would deprive readers from engaging in discussion. --George Ho (talk) 00:53, 18 May 2016 (UTC)

I changed the file description of File:Hello Goodbye by The Beatles UK vinyl single.jpg and the copyright status because someone else said at FFD it's too factual in the US. Just to let you know. Also, I was told that rationale is unnecessary if such files are free to use in the US, abided by English Wikipedia. I had this similar discussion at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2015 November 10 before PUF was discontinued recently. George Ho (talk) 07:16, 20 May 2016 (UTC)

Novelty of death?[edit]

I was about to compose a talkpage comment on the subject when you did this. What a silly remark. My mother used to play Dickey Lee's "Patches" (1962) obsessively. Curly Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 11:44, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

Curly Turkey: Yes indeed, I haven't checked the source to see the context, admittedly, but it sounded kinda ridiculous. I think I had "Leader of the Pack" running through my head at the time … Cheers, JG66 (talk) 12:05, 4 June 2016 (UTC)

From the review...[edit]

Hi, as you were interested in this dreadful episode I mentioned at the review, here is a link to it [4]. I did not want this link to go on the review page, and may be hurt someone. It escalated from an AN/I complaint to an ugly editor review, it will take a few hours to get through all those walls of text. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:18, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

@Sainsf: Wow, that's huge – I'll have to set some time aside to read it … Thanks, and I think it's nice of you to present it here rather than at the GAR, out of sensitivity towards the editor. JG66 (talk) 18:34, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
She had a very bad time, and it is a wonder she did not leave Wikipedia forever after the level of tension she must have had for a month. Instead, she responded with such politeness and tranquility, and she continues to be someone I and many others are proud of. Indeed an inspiration. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 18:39, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Sour Milk Sea[edit]

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The Ladders[edit]

Here's a potential article for you. It's currently a redirect to a not-very-notable website, but I think if we look carefully in sources we might be able to retarget it as the "supergroup that never was" containing all the former Beatles except McCartney, plus Billy Preston and Klaus Voormann. Let me see what I can come up with. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 10:00, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: Yeah, that definitely merits an article. I know I've got some helpful sources somewhere. And actually, you've just reminded me that I've long, long, long had "I'm the Greatest" on my GA-wannabe's … JG66 (talk) 11:01, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

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DYK for You're Breakin' My Heart[edit]

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Re:So Sad image[edit]

Hey JG, it's going great. I don't mind the label being replaced (the sleeve definitely looks better on the eyes than that green label...). Go for it. Yeepsi (talk) 13:39, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Ding Dong pic sleeve Italian.jpg[edit]

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MetroLyrics link[edit]

Just to let you know that for "So Sad" MetroLyrics lists: "SONGWRITERS MINCHELLA, DAMON / FOWLER, SIMON / HARRISON, OSCAR LLOYD / CRADOCK, STEPHEN PUBLISHED BY LYRICS © UNIVERSAL MUSIC PUBLISHING GROUP" (at least there's a Harrison in there). I didn't find the lyrics at beatles.com, so didn't change anything. BTW, an editor has come up with a temporary fix for time signatures in text (see Template talk:Music#Time Signatures). —Ojorojo (talk) 15:31, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi Ojorojo. Ah that's a shocker – I'll remove the link. And no, nothing for any of the Beatles' solo songs at beatles.com. Used to have all of Harrison's lyrics at georgeharrison.com, I seem to remember, but that's no longer the case. Cheers, JG66 (talk) 02:24, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

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Sgt. Pepper[edit]

You're quite right. I jumped the gun and should have looked more carefully. My apologies and thanks for taking care of it. Sundayclose (talk) 15:20, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Sundayclose: Hey, no probs. I appreciate your vigilance! JG66 (talk) 15:23, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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