User talk:J Milburn/archive35

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Medusa coin

Thanks for this notification. I'm not really active on Wikipedia at present, and I uploaded this image years ago. It's been a while since I've uploaded others from Classical Numismatics Group, but I do recall at the time learning that they allowed their images to be used on Wikipedia in general. I can't recall, however, how I supposedly learned this. More vaguely, I seem also to recall seeing a CNG template for images somewhere.

Even when I was contributing regularly to WP, I was primarily concerned with writing text, and uploaded images only as needed to illustrate specifics of articles. I'm therefore not well-versed in these matters, and given your interest would very much appreciate your looking into the status of CNG coin images collectively, as there are (were?) a great number of Roman coins uploaded from CNG by multiple editors and used in many articles. Thanks. Cynwolfe (talk) 16:39, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 02 April 2012

FAC image review?

Hi J Milburn, I was wondering if you had time to do an image review of an article that I have at FAC? The article is Elias Abraham Rosenberg (FAC), it only has a couple images in it, they should both be public domain. Mark Arsten (talk) 04:15, 4 April 2012 (UTC)


Hi Milburn, thanks for your comment in the nomination. I'm not active in FPCs and this was my first nomination, and to be honest, I didn't fully read the criteria page before nomating it. I think you are quite right about the encyclopedic value issue, I think an FP should at least have an appropriate caption. But about advertising, just to let you know, I didn't advertise anything. My home wiki is here, and these (with English interface) are my contributions (as you see, I wasn't so active these days over there). If you think I advertise it by email, 1) those two guys Alborzagros and P0lyzoarium, yes they are Iranian and are users of fa.wikipeda but I don't know them much, and that guy Iranshahr, this is the first time I see this username. I'm an active user in fa.wikipedia and have a lot of close friends over there which are also active here, Huji, ebraminio, Reza1615, etc. so if I decide to advertise something I have a lot of better choices. 2) Also I doubt these kinds of things even worth it to waste so much time, and also fixing that issue about encyclopedic value in "Lotfollah mosque" is much easier for me and would take less time than advertise a nomination in such way. --Z 16:26, 4 April 2012 (UTC)

Dispute resolution survey

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Hello J Milburn. I am currently conducting a study on the dispute resolution processes on the English Wikipedia, in the hope that the results will help improve these processes in the future. Whether you have used dispute resolution a little or a lot, now we need to know about your experience. The survey takes around five minutes, and the information you provide will not be shared with third parties other than to assist in analyzing the results of the survey. No personally identifiable information will be released.

Please click HERE to participate.
Many thanks in advance for your comments and thoughts.

You are receiving this invitation because you have had some activity in dispute resolution over the past year. For more information, please see the associated research page. Steven Zhang DR goes to Wikimania! 02:30, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song)/archive3

You commented at the first FAC, so as a courtesy, I am notifying you of Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Here We Go Again (Ray Charles song)/archive3.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 12:46, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

POTD notification

Hi J,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Australian blenny.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on April 10, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-04-10. howcheng {chat} 07:05, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation Blog Post on WikiCup


My name is Elaine and I'm a communications intern with the Wikimedia Foundation in San Francisco. I'm working on a post about the WikiCup for the Foundation blog [1]. Since you are one of the judges for this year's WikiCup, I would love to do a short interview with you either by phone, Skype, or email to ask you a few quick questions. Let me know if you're interested! You can reach me at


Elaine CommIntern (talk) 19:05, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

You forgot clear Stone's submission page for round 2. -- BCS (t · c · !) 19:53, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

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Happy Adminship Anniversary

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Wishing J Milburn a very happy adminship anniversary on behalf of the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talkabout my edits? 22:45, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Dora Trial/GA1

Query on claiming this for Wikicup - I am leaning towards failing it since I've heard nothing from the nominator and there are some issues I can't just fix on my own - can I claim points for failed reviews? (I so rarely come into issues with failing GANs...) Ealdgyth - Talk 19:53, 11 April 2012 (UTC)

Me again...

Talk:William the Conqueror/GA1 is not looking good so far... am I being out of line here? Ealdgyth - Talk 12:35, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

re: Wikipedia:WikiCup/History/2012/Submissions/Yellow Evan

Meh, sorry. Ill, amdit I was tempted not to add this to my submission pages. I also feel there should be mention about stuff like this in Wikipedia:WikiCup/Scoring#Good article reviews to avoid this from happening again from other users. YE Pacific Hurricane 14:55, 14 April 2012 (UTC)

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The Signpost: 23 April 2012

POTD notification

Hi JM,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Lee Bollinger - Daniella Zalcman less noise.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on April 30, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-04-30. howcheng {chat} 21:05, 26 April 2012 (UTC)


I just noticed the draft of the April 2012 WikiCup newsletter. You used Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs)'s name for third place when you meant to use mine. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:02, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Damn it, I've just sent it, too! I'll set my bot to replace it once it's been sent out. Thanks for pinging me. J Milburn (talk) 23:05, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I have one bot chasing another, should be sorted. Sorry for the mixup! J Milburn (talk) 23:19, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 April newsletter

Round 2 of this year's WikiCup is over, and so we are down to our final 32, in what could be called our quarter-finals. The two highest scorers from each pool, as well as the next 16 highest scorers overall, have entered round 3, while 30 participants have been eliminated. Pool B's Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions) remains our top scorer with over 700 points; he continues to gain high numbers of points for his good articles on The X-Files, but also Millennium and other subjects. He has also gained points for a good topic, a featured list, multiple good article reviews and several did you knows. Pool E's Scotland Casliber (submissions) was second, thanks primarily to his biology articles, with Pool H's New York City Muboshgu (submissions) coming in third, with an impressive 46 did you knows, mostly on the subject of baseball. Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both scored over 600 points. Pools E and H proved our most successful, with each seeing 5 members qualify for round 3, while Pools C and D were the least, with each seeing only 3 reach round 3. However, it was Pool G which saw the lowest scoring, with a little under 400 points combined; Pool H, the highest scoring group, saw over triple that score.

65 points was the lowest qualifying score for round 3; significantly higher than the 11 required to enter round 2, and also higher than the 41 required to reach round 3 last year. However, in 2010, 100 points were needed to secure a place in round 3. 16 will progress to round 4. In round 3, 150 points was the 16th highest score, though, statistically, people tend to up their game a little in later rounds. Last year, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 points were needed. Guessing how many points will be required is not easy. We still have not seen any featured portals or topics this year, but, on the subject of less common content types, a small correction needs to be made to the previous newsletter: File:Wacht am Rhein map (Opaque).svg, our first featured picture, was the work of both Vanuatu Matthewedwards (submissions) and United Kingdom Grandiose (submissions), the latter of whom has also gone on to score with File:Map of the Battle of Guam, 1944.svg. Bonus points also continue to roll in; this round, England Ealdgyth (submissions) earned triple points for her good articles on William the Conqueror and the Middle Ages, Casliber and Cwmhiraeth both earned triple points for their work on Western Jackdaw, now a good article, Michigan Dana Boomer (submissions) earned triple points for her work on lettuce and work by Bavaria Stone (submissions) to ready antimony for good article status earned him triple points. United Kingdom Jarry1250 (submissions) managed to expand Vitus Bering far enough for a did you know, which was also worth triple points. All of these highly important topics featured on 50 or more Wikipedias at the start of the year.

An article on the WikiCup in the Wikimedia Blog, "Improving Wikipedia with friendly competition", was posted at the end of April. This may be of interest to those who are signed up to this newsletter, as well as serving as another way to draw attention to our project. Also, we would again like to thank United Kingdom Jarry1250 (submissions) and Bavaria Stone (submissions), for continued help behind the scenes. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail) 23:13, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 30 April 2012

WikiCup question

Just stopping by with a quick question... I am going to be taking Percheron to FAC in the near future, and can't decide whether I can claim it for points in the Cup. Would you mind taking a look at the history and giving me your judge's opinion on whether the work I've done on it this year meets the "significant work" threshold? I'm not really fussed either way; mainly, I'm just wondering if I need to declare that I'm collecting points when I start the FAC. Thanks in advance (and thanks for all of the work you do as a judge!), Dana boomer (talk) 14:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Great, thanks! Dana boomer (talk) 16:56, 2 May 2012 (UTC)


This image File:Megitza_at_Copernicus_Theater.jpg recently got OTRS added by the uploader who has a username to suggest they are the artist in question, the same user uploaded several other images that are still tagged as no-permission and some already have been deleted, care to check that OTRS ticket to see if it covers all their uploads and fix accordingly? Seems like a small oversight by the person who handled the ticket on the linked image that they didn't check all the images... Thanks. — raekyt 00:43, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

POTD notification

Hi JM,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Monarch Butterfly Danaus plexippus Tagged Closeup 3008px.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on May 4, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-05-04. howcheng {chat} 16:48, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 07 May 2012

POTD notification

Hi JM,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Koppelpoort Amersfoort Cropped.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on May 11, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-05-11. howcheng {chat} 03:54, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

POTD notification

Hi JM,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:28-090504-black-headed-bunting-at-first-layby.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on May 11, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-05-11. howcheng {chat} 02:11, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Arc of Life tagged for Tone

Hi J Milburn, you tagged Arc of Life for Tone. I've revised the article to be more encyclopedic - and hope I've been successful. Could you please look at the article again, and give me suggestions on the talk page if it still needs work. Thanks, Ellis408 (talk) 05:49, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Took another shot to fix tone issue. Please take a look: Arc of Life. Thanks, Ellis408 (talk) 13:50, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Author images Jessica Owers

Hi JM, the author pics on my page belong to me. [[2]] They are publicity shots which are used in the promotion of all my books and I have permission to use them on websites (my own and others), publisher promotions, etc. I've had three deleted so far for some insane and frustrating reason. Why is this happening? Book watch (talk) 08:15, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 14 May 2012

William the Conqueror

I'm up to the stage of begging Malleus for a copyedit so I'm thinking we're getting close to heading to FAC with the old guy... any further comments you'd make would be greatly appreciated. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:43, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:Sacred Cod found.jpg

I have expanded and clarified the non-free use rationale for File:Sacred Cod found.jpg. Please take another look and respond on the talk page if you still see problems with the rationale.--Found5dollar (talk) 13:52, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Lucy Hutchinson

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POTD notification

Hi JM,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Ambondro lingual.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on May 13, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-05-13. howcheng {chat} 20:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

POTD notification

Mr. Milburn,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Wasserschloss Mespelbrunn, 6 edit01.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on May 16, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-05-16. howcheng {chat} 16:33, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

File:Reichstag flag original.jpg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Reichstag flag original.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Moscowconnection (talk) 23:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

  • Hello! I just want to add that I have nothing against you, but I just think that it is not the original and possibly a fake. There are other photos from the same photoshoot with a watch on the right hand, but I wasn't able to find the original of this particular image. The watch on the right hand might have been photoshopped in. The point about the watch can be still illustrated with other photos from the same photoshoot, there are some available from Associated Press, for example. Moscowconnection (talk) 23:58, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 21 May 2012

DYK for Inocybe salicis

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Did you know

That your hook for Inocybe salicis made me laugh? (talk) 03:24, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'm glad someone's reading it! J Milburn (talk) 11:09, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Coulommiers cheese

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Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
Your nomination for featured picture status, File:Coulommiers lait cru.jpg, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. Jujutacular (talk) 23:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Authority control

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2010 template deletion discussion

Kate Winslet (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Hopefully, this won't be seen as WP:CANVASSING, but I'd like some guidance on how to raise concerns about WP:Authority control beyond what I've already done on the Talk page. The template was kept back in 2010, but what permitted someone to create Wikipedia:Authority control with a mandate to use the template? And that mandate is now being cited as "community consensus" by an editor at the Winslet article to justify inclusion of the template. The whole thing seems screwy to me.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:15, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I'm afraid I'm really not sure what you're asking me. What is the issue, here? What are you looking for? J Milburn (talk) 19:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
What is WP:Authority control, and what is the basis for its opening sentence ("The Authority control template is used to display a special set of metadata that can and should be added to biographical articles where such identifiers exist.") (emphasis added)? And what can I do about it other than opening a topic on the Talk page of the WP thing (I don't know what it is), which I've already done? (Sorry, please respond here.)--Bbb23 (talk) 19:24, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
In answer to your first question: I don't know, I assume it's something similar to Wikipedia:Persondata but more visible. In answer to your second question, this is seemingly an essay/howto masquerading as a policy/guideline. In answer to your third, I recommend raising the issue at the village pump if your questions on the talk page are not answered satisfactorily; that would be the appropriate place to raise questions about policies and pseudo-policies. I take your point, though; I'd be certain to remove that thing from any of my own articles. Until there is a policy or guideline dictating that this must be added to articles, it would be a matter, at best, for localised consensus. I cannot see any kind of policy or guideline. J Milburn (talk) 19:30, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, that pretty much conforms to my thinking. The suggestion about the pump is good. Another thought was to nominate it for deletion (miscellaneous). It seems to me that anything appropriate that's in the article should be handled in the template documentation, not in a separate piece that seems more promotional than anything else. As for removing the template, I did that twice at the Winslet article, but the editor restored it each time (citing the article in support). Silly, but it annoyed me. I'm not going to edit-war over it, and I'm not sure how much good it would be to raise it on the Winslet Talk page, so I'll pursue the more global route.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:36, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

New summary for sample

Cleaned up the "Wide Awake" file summary (see here: and it no longer meets the criteria for speedy deletion.--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 22:03, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Alright! Do I tag it on the page?--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 22:15, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

About the posters and still removal of 3 (2012 Indian film)

You have removed following posters and stills at 3 (2012 Indian film) article for reason "These images are adding nothing. While there is general agreement that a single film poster is acceptable, screenshots/album covers are needed only if they themselves are significant." as given. But I guess those are necessary to improve the article, everything isn't may not completed there yet. But I'm actively working on that article. (Please also read the reasons why it's needed below...).

3 (2012) Soundtrack Cover

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Movie still of Dhanush and Shruti Haasan as Ram and Janani

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But my question is, isn't it really necessary to illustrate the characters of the movie? And also, movie poster and soundtrack poster is clearly different, so I though a upload is due. Sorry if I'm wrong, I'm new to Wikipedia.

I really, really appreciate if I could add those posters and stills back to the article, not just because I likes the article, but also necessary. I'll improve the article as much as I can. Thank you. ʂaɳɖaƙɘɭʉɱ ʈaɭƙ 01:49, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Illustrating how the actors are in the movie is needed. That's why the still was used. And Movie poster and Soundtrack posters are different. That's why Soundtrack poster was used.
Apart from all these reasons, just because we removed them from the article, doesn't remove them from Wikipedia permanently. So, using them is not only improve the article, but it's quality, easy-to-read and understandability of users.
ʂaɳɖaƙɘɭʉɱ ʈaɭƙ 03:51, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your reply. Appreciate it. ʂaɳɖaƙɘɭʉɱ ʈaɭƙ 12:20, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Reply to Replaceable fair use File:Peepal Tree.jpg

It is only a tree and no one holds the copyrights of that and it was planted by a anonymous person now what should i do and please help me about the copyrights Prajyot Singh (talk) 07:29, 27 May 2012 (UTC) I only took the picture with my samsung mobile Prajyot Singh (talk) 09:55, 27 May 2012 (UTC) Thanks Prajyot Singh (talk) 10:11, 27 May 2012 (UTC) Ofcoure i will be happy Prajyot Singh (talk) 15:41, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a lot my friend for that picture Prajyot Singh (talk) 03:59, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Mark E Nevin

Hello - I am new to Wikipedia and so far I am quite baffled - I created a wiki page for myself (Mark E Nevin) as a former member of Fairground Attraction - when I link from the Fairground Attraction page (as one of the other former members have), I am told I can't do this... why? - I would be very grateful to know the correct way of doing this - thank you, Mark (also, I am not Sukey Parnell, she took the photograph that I have uploaded - (for which I paid) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joybellesringing (talkcontribs) 11:05, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Rosie Ribbons & RPMcG

Hi - I'm new to wikipedia editing and uploaded three images unaware that only free licensed media was permitted with exception. Apologies for this oversight. Two of these images were not related to articles, however, one was intended for the Rosie Ribbons page I have made a number of additions and edits on. As there is no free alternative and the image would greatly enhance the article, would this count as an exception? If not, can you please suggest the best ways to locate a suitable image? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RPMcG (talkcontribs) 15:51, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Would permission and/or an image from the subject herself suffice? — Preceding unsigned comment added by RPMcG (talkcontribs) 16:05, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Wide Awake

Hey I just wanted to let you know that the I've been busy the last couple days, but I'll get the new sample up by tonight.--(CA)Giacobbe (talk) 16:18, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Another of User:Prajyot123

I see that you happened to be checking this user's images. I have nominated File:Malini Awasthi.jpg for deletion. He claims he took this snap himself. But i did not see it then that this image is already used by the subject on her personal site. This could be copy-vio, especially seeing that this user has done it many times before. Could you please do the needful? §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 17:07, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

My pleasure. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 17:16, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Reply to File:Priyal Gor.jpg

Hi Again yeah this pic is not my own work but how should i upload this picture she is a actress i can't take a pic of her. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prajyot123 (talkcontribs) 16:15, 28 May 2012 (UTC) Now you only tell me that how should i upload these pics so that people should know who she really is as she is a new actress Prajyot Singh (talk) 05:33, 29 May 2012 (UTC)


Hey, thanks for taking your time to making me understand about the non-free content. Frankly, your explanation was much better as comparing it to the guidelines. I normally not involve myself there (non-free content, for except posters), I was not aware of much. I'm a easy going guy, and so I prefer WP:IGNORE instead of many policies :P Though I obey all every-time, free content has always been an issue for me.

If you don't mind, I'll ping you next time if I am attempting any, would you mind for that?

Thanks again! -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 16:19, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Is this image fine? Bollywood Hungama also allows Wikimedia Commons to freely use their images if attributed to them as per this. So, will it create any problem? -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 11:29, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know! Won't upload the image. I close the plan :D -- ♪Karthik♫ ♪Nadar♫ 12:25, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Cave Story FAC

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"File:MacPherson School south of Grenfell (If it was never published, that is not the correct copyright tag)"

Quite right. Thank you. I would vastly appreciate your attending to the correction you suggest. A further goof: that long-demolished country school was north, not south of the town. Not at all certain whether the name is spelled "Mc" or "Mac," it being named for a Gaelic-speaking family who used three spellings in English. Oh well: highly irrelevant nowadays with the language virtually extinct. Masalai (talk) 16:47, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Would have been the original photographer herself. Surely it isn't necessary to provide that here, is it? Masalai (talk) 23:21, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Image source added for page :

Hello, I'm talking about this page (wiki link)

I have added image source information for the three meteor images marked by you for deletion. Please remove deletion tag.

Thanks a lot. wikipedia username: Manish.mmk

Manish Khurpade — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manish.mmk (talkcontribs) 17:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Nest Photo

How about next time you look at the image closer. It has MY LOCATION in the upper right hand corner of the app. Steveketchup (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:15, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

That's funny because there are several things such as my carrier, signal strength, battery level and my location that make the photo unique to me. Regardless, the only part that's TM is the house logo which I found the privacy policy for and gave rationale. Would you like to take the deletion tags off or should I have someone else?Steveketchup (talk)

To be honest, I care too little about you and the picture to fight this anymore. Do what you will, I just don't care anymore. Steveketchup (talk) 11:22, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 May 2012

About images used on page :

Reference page:

Hello, I am new to wikipedia edits and I forgot to remove the CC-Zero license which is now creating confusion to you. I don't understand which source page you are mentioning, I have aded the source information in the file description. The images are taken by my mentor at GIS and they are released without any copyright to the public domain. Several newspapers and websites have already published these images. So please don't mark them for deletion. If you need further information please ask me and please edit the image information accordingly. This information is important for scientists worldwide and it shouldn't get deleted because I have less knowledge about how to edit Wikipedia. Thanks.

User: Manish.MMK — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manish.mmk (talkcontribs) 11:46, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 May newsletter


We're halfway through round 3 (or the quarter finals, if you prefer) and things are running smoothly. We're seeing very high scoring; as of the time of writing, the top 16 all have over 90 points. This has already proved to be more competative than this time last year- in 2011, 76 points secured a place, while in 2010, a massive 250 was the lowest qualifying score. People have also upped their game slightly from last round, which is to be expected as we approach the end of the competition. Leading Pool A is Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions), whose points have mostly come from a large number of did you knows on marine biology. Pool B's leader, Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions), is for the first time not our highest scorer at the time of newsletter publication, but his good articles on The X-Files and Millenium keep him in second place overall. Wisconsin Miyagawa (submissions) leads Pool C, our quietest pool, with content in a variety of areas on a variety of topics. Pool D is led by Scotland Casliber (submissions), our current overall leader. Nearly half of Casliber's points come from his triple-scored Western Jackdaw, which is now a featured article.

This round has seen an unusually high number of featured lists, with nearly one in five remaining participants claiming one, and one user, New York City Muboshgu (submissions), claiming two. Miyagawa's featured list, 1936 Summer Olympics medal table, was even awarded double points. By comparison, good article reviews seem to be playing a smaller part, and featured topics portals remain two content-types still unutilised in this competition. Other than that, there isn't much to say! Things are coming along smoothly. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail) 23:35, 31 May 2012 (UTC)


Hello my picture was deleted cos of copywrite problem but am the owner of the picture.. I mean my picture in wiki.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alacrityawareness (talkcontribs) 14:19, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Plz restore my pic bcos it not a copy write.. This pic can only be seen in my facebook and my footbll team use to make my talk page in my football club so there is no other place u can see it.... More over, i want my wiki to change to Dumaka francis Ifeanyi as the user but it goes this way Alacrityawareness/Dumaka Francis Ifeanyi. So i want alacrityawareness to be removed.. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alacrityawareness (talkcontribs) 14:44, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

am talking about this image... File:Dumaka Francis.jpg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alacrityawareness (talkcontribs) 18:14, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Yogo FAC

See this pls PumpkinSky talk 18:28, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Can we safely remove the FU license on the butterfly photo? If so could you reiterate that or is there someone else that could help settle the issue? Thank you.PumpkinSky talk 01:02, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for responding. Who should we ask about this to settle it and is currently active? I don't have a clue.PumpkinSky talk 21:03, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

File:Toy Story 3 Oscar 2011 Poster.jpg

I have given a different non-free rationale for the file. Please check it.--Plea$ant 1623 11:04, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

I am saying is how Pixar made Toy Story 3's Oscar campaign and what it is all about.--Plea$ant 1623 08:19, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

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RE: Deletions

It would appear so. The ones you specifically brought up were placed on wikipedia before I knew how to operate commons (so that's reason enough to delete them). However, after getting on commons, I wasn't aware that the PD of the image, aside from the one of the country of origin, had to be specifically of the USA. My apologies. You're probably going to need a team for this... Mariomassone (talk) 15:07, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

read reason for image

I submitted it when posted-what's the problem? Totally legal, and totally appropriate. Remember wiki policy about OWN.

Whatever, if you have nothing better to do than this, do whatever the heck you want with the article - I'm done.

1850 Ames Cadet sword compaired to the 1840 Musicians sword.jpg

I got your email and I agree in part. Let me explain I have been working on this article for 4 years or more. I have been working to get the best images released, it took over a year for me to get the copy right owners to release it. The Image that was up loaded was not as good as the Image I wanted to reload to take the place of Ames Regulation 543.jpg I wanted to upload the best image I could make. I also wanted to change the size. The Images that I found, scanned, worked for a year to get copyrights released to you.

Then when I have a better image I get a problem. Tell me this if I put all this effort into it why are you giving someone else credit in the User talk contribs for work that I did?

Please change it back or let me upload a better image. For what it's worth I would like to upload the same image that was there before with a higher quality scan of that image, along with the correct information in the User talk contribs for work that I did alone.

Please let me know how you feel about someone putting their name to your work, even though it's not my best copy Andy2159 (talk) 01:54, 29 May 2012 (UTC) Andy

If you looked at the image in the Ames Sword Company 1829 -1935 page 225 you will see Model 543 1850 West point cadet sword This is the only Image on that page that Mowbray publishing gave permission to use.. This is a very important image as it shows that the model 1850 supports images of cadets using that sword years before they were issued. As I said I would like to use the best image, I would like to get more images from Mowbray Publishing, and I will not if they do not look good.


Andy2159 (talk) 02:26, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure why I have a problem.

I'm not sure what you want, are you going to allow the use of this image

All 3 Images that have been approved under ticket # 201205150000691 are the original and best images available to me at the time, the Image is just a higher quality scan both reproduced by me with permission.

Permission by the publisher was requested by me and the publisher gave his approval to you for me to use the images in the West Point cadet sword article. The images are the only proven images found to date. I scanned the images in to digital form and submitted them to you. The correct images would be Ames Regulation 543.jpg. as this is the first and only real copy that can be clearly shown to be the first real Ames 1850 cadet sword in this images from the makers files. Okay, since I took the photo which the publishers said I could use, that you approved it. All I want to know is how did someone Else's name, someone who had nothing to do at all with it except that he volunteers at Wilkpidia, is allowed to remove your name and replaced and replaces it with yours. Please tell me in do you allow you volunteers to do that. All I wanted to do was to replace the image with a better one.. same image better quality all of which is verifiable. I still want to upload a better quality image same photo, I just learned how I could scan it better. Thank you (talk) 21:56, 29 May 2012 (UTC) Andy — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk)

I am really, really struggling to understand what you are talking about here. Could you please try to rephrase what you are asking me? Four things-
  1. So far as I can see, the OTRS ticket 201205150000691 does not exist.
  2. I have had no contact with anyone concerning this article or this image apart from you. I've certainly not talked to any publishers.
  3. Permission to use an image is not the same as permission for an image to be released under a free license. Unless an image is released under a free license, its use must meet the non-free content criteria.
  4. I have no idea what you are asking me when you say "All I want to know is how did someone Else's name, someone who had nothing to do at all with it except that he volunteers at Wilkpidia, is allowed to remove your name and replaced and replaces it with yours. Please tell me in do you allow you volunteers to do that." Please be more specific. I simply do not understand what you are saying.
Has a different version of this image been uploaded before? Could you please show me where it has been uploaded? J Milburn (talk) 22:44, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

Please give me a few days to reply to your letter. Thank you. AndyAndy2159 (talk) 21:59, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Do you have a email address as I would like to show you email between Permissions <> and my self in the approval of the 3 images and the # [Ticket#2012051510000691] is shown as a reference. Andy65.35.73.243 (talk) 01:18, 2 June 2012 (UTC)Andy2159 (talk) 01:20, 2 June 2012 (UTC)Andy

Look I just do not know what you want from me, Do I need to get the publisher to fill out a form like the one below which has been sent out completed to you before do I need to get it filled out again just because I want to post the same image with Improved quality??? I agree to publish that work under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0" (unported) and GNU Free Documentation License (unversioned, with no invariant sections, front-cover texts, or back-cover texts). I acknowledge that by doing so I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product or otherwise, and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that this agreement is not limited to Wikipedia or related sites. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be claimed to have been made by me. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project. Filled out in full for all photo's sent in

Andy2159 (talk) 23:31, 2 June 2012 (UTC) Andy

I'm sorry to upset you. I just do not know enough about Wilkipedia to work it my self or work my way out of this mess. If I did I would of never would of asked. If that is the Image you want to keep in the article. It's fine with me as I scanned and uploaded it in and got permission to do so. What I do not understand is why I can not upload a high quality image scanned from the same source? Nothing changes but the quality of the images.

I know that I've been hard for you to work with. I'm sorry for that. I would just like to know why it is so hard to improve the quality of the Images in the article?

Thank you for your time, your response would be very welcome.

AndyAndy2159 (talk) 12:36, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Ames images in question


I was going to bring up this to you just in another way. I am under the impression that permission was given by the Owner Stuart Mowbray, Mowbray Publishing under the free license "Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0. I sent in the request to Commons. Commons come back to me for the release. I sent it to Mowbray Publishing they then emailed it to me with their approval and I sent it on as requested by Permissions <>. They referenced it under Ticket#201205151000069. So the question is do I have to go back to Stuart and ask him again for approval or do I have approval. I do have all emails between Mowbray, <>, and my self to show you just how it went down.

As for the charges I do not really understand them. Yes there are other images that are part of the NPS, but the quality is very poor and the image is of the model 1872. This Image comes from the very best reference source on the subject and that is the Ames Manufacturing company. They made it and they have the very best image of it. Now why you should not remove this image. Several highly regarded references have all said that they believe that the Musicians sword was the where the design came from. Now when I took the images I posted a poor image and I had all kind of problems trying to get it corrected, and nothing worked. I reloaded it under a different name 1850 Ames Cadet sword compaired to the 1840 Musicians sword.jpg, it was first called it regulation 543.jpg have the problem with the images. If you look at the book in my first upload I removed the Musicans sword but after looking at the book the photo shows both swords under 1 heading. which looked more natural. I can upload the original upload of regulation 543 with out the Musicians sword if you like. I can do anything you ask to bring it up to your standards, just ask. I think that it comes down to if you accepted Stuarts permission or not, if not it can be requested again Hope this is on track. AndyAndy2159 (talk) 20:52, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

YES Page 225 item number 543 Regulation.jpg is what I first called the image. the image in the book is more true to the image that shows the both swords under one heading that's called Military regulation. I do have a better Images of both.

AndyAndy2159 (talk) 21:30, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I scanned or photographed it from the book. Andy2159 (talk) 22:06, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I believe the image I first uploaded is better, but I'm sure I have a better one. Please make sure it's the Image I up loaded as someone else was playing with it after I up loaded it.

Andy Andy2159 (talk) 22:58, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Yes, the image is the same. The difference is some of it was edited down. While others show what's on the page not edited. The image shown now is what you would see if you were looking at that part of the page in the book. AndyAndy2159 (talk) 23:10, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

I do have a better image, Andy2159 (talk) 23:12, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

RE: Ed, Edd n Eddy

Sorry, I'll do it right from now on. :) Best, --Khanassassin 12:36, 7 June 2012 (UTC)


On Talk:James Stuart, Duke of Cambridge/GA1... I'm really not comfortable passing this article with its current sourcing... but I don't want to be accused of "gaming" wikicup either... any advice? Ealdgyth - Talk 14:40, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

No, you're fine IMHO. Using older sources + the diary, which is a primary source, is problematic for even GA. Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 20:52, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

And something else...

I think the bot may be off on figuring multiplyers for Wikicup.... here it gives me 3x for Middle Ages but ... looking at the 31 December 2011 version I count 109 wikilinks - which should be a 4x multipler? It didn't make any difference on the last round but... Ealdgyth - Talk 14:54, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

This is completely my fault (it was a simple off-by-one error on a loop). The consequence was that all 4x articles were being reported as 3x, but I'm thinking (hoping) you were the only one that got a 4x promoted. Should be fixed now but won't be back-dated, alas. - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed] 10:56, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
I'm not that worried, Jarry - your bot is incredible and these things happen... Ealdgyth - Talk 12:37, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
Well, all's well that ends well I guess, and the bot is fixed now :) - Jarry1250 [Deliberation needed]

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Is there a policy against or something for someone to take your comments from a talk page put them on their user page and make responses to them therefore preventing you from replying or something? Seems a bit aggravating.. hehe.. (ex. User:Wekn_reven_i_susej_eht does just this). — raekyt 13:59, 13 June 2012 (UTC)


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FPC help, please

Hi. Will you take a look at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/1929 Belgian banknote redux? It's been open for a long time. I haven't closed it because of the copyright concerns. Since you've worked with OTRS and copyright stuff, I'd appreciate it if you could give the nom a look and, possibly, the J Milburn Stamp of Approval. Everything looks fine to me, but I'm reluctant to promote the image until I see someone say that it's fine. Thanks!! Makeemlighter (talk) 00:43, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Makeemlighter (talk) 02:43, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Deletion query

Hi J, i see you've put a [file of mine] up for speedy deletion review. Just want you to know the file does have a complete fair use rationale and it has been reviewed and marked keep already. Mikething (talk) 15:25, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

"The result of the discussion was: keep, now tagged with a non-free license, so not eligible for deletion through this venue". It was tagged as free, and then corrected to non-free. As such, it was not deleted, but that discussion certainly does not preclude it being deleted for other reasons. I have nominated it for deletion as it clearly fails the non-free content criteria; specifically, point 8 (what is this really showing? Yes, shopping channels were used, but why can we not just say that?) and 3 (this is an enormous video- non-free videos, while not banned, should only be used very sparingly. Why is one needed here?). J Milburn (talk) 15:29, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

You're right, it is a bit hefty for 12 seconds (that could be fixed). But on the grounds of point 8, it's at least debatable. The video does demonstrate the extreme degree of salesmanship employed in the selling of his prints better than the text. I see that as an important aspect of his work. Still, if you disagree please kill it, i'm not territorial about it! Mikething (talk) 15:42, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Granted, it's open to debate, but I think we need to be doubly careful with videos. Perhaps a quote box would be a suitable alternative to illustrate the selling technique? I certainly wouldn't object to that, personally. J Milburn (talk) 15:47, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Cave Story FAC

Hey, thanks for your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Cave Story/archive1. Do you have any other comments or criticism of the article? Thanks, Axem Titanium (talk) 14:05, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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For your outstanding support and dedication in getting Yogo sapphire from a new article to DYK to GA to FA and FOUR. The team effort of the uncountable people involved in getting this unique article to FA is a textbook case of teamwork in article improvement, ie, what Wikipedia should be, not what it all too often is. I can never thank everyone enough. PumpkinSky talk 23:21, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

=== Cadet sword picture, again

You are correct, my error the correct Image is Page 225 item number Regulation, I thought I had that covered.

You can do one of two things, exchange the photo for the correct one.


I can get another release, that would take a week would.

What do you want to do?

AndyAndy2159 (talk) 23:33, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

I am way over my head. 4 images that I submitted, somehow got messed up as to the copyrights, names, and other information. The 3 images: Page 161 cadet sword and scabbard. Page 63 U,S.M.A c 1850 Page 225 item number Regulation

Are from the John Hamilition book the Ames Sword Company with premission from Mowbray Publishing.

All the information about that Francis Bannermann does not belong in the summary. How it got there I do not know.

I did submit one images from Francis Bannerman, Military Goods Catalogue, 1913. which was an images of used west point swords for sale. That information somehow is showing up on the incorrect images.

The changes need to be corrected.

Nothing is correct other than the fact that I uploaded the information. the release from Mowbray spells it out in total. I submitted the paper work from Mowbary to you and I still have my copy. will it help if I submitted it again.

What do I do to correct this.

I have one person slamming me, he thinks that I'm not at his level and I'm not. I can not even understand what he is saying but he is really putting me down and I do not understand why.

I thought that the article was almost complete, it is complete execpt for one image that I'm waiting for approval to print through the freedom of information act.

bottom line the images have all been approved. The summary's must be corrected.

Thank you AndyAndy2159 (talk) 13:08, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Now I understand the question, you are correct

I do feel like a fool, both the same, The first image was taken from the Ames archives around 1866 or so, Bannerman photo publisher 1913. Yes again it is the same. I had my photos put away and the images on commons where I could not tell if it was which, till I was able to put it side by side. I'm not the best communicator in town, I'm dealing with a disadvantage which take me 5 or 6 minutes that someone else can do much better. I'm doing the best I can. Again I'm sorry, you are not dealing with someone how know how it done better Andy2159 (talk) 12:56, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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Giant moss

I have approved your double nomination of Inocybe saliceticola and Calliergon cordifolium for DYK. However the moss article has a couple of errors which I could have changed myself but which I am confident you will want to correct. The leaves of the moss have dimensions in centimetres when they should be millimetres and you have incorrectly included the beech tree in the genus Salix. It's good to find we all make mistakes ;-)

Talking of beech, in the fungus article you mentioned that it could be found in "moist thickets or woodland close to beaches" which made me incorrectly think that it was a maritime species. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 08:46, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

The fungus is a nice article but it does almost entirely come from one source. This is not surprising seeing that it is has relatively recently been described, but I'm not sure whether this fact would be frowned on at FAC. Your experience is much greater on these matters than mine anyway. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 10:09, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

Dark Shadows

Those IP editors aren't done with disagreeing with you and I am pretty sure they haven't had come up with a good excuse per fair use guidelines. But I would leave that opinion up to you for now. Jhenderson 777 00:27, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Inocybe saliceticola

 — Crisco 1492 (talk) 08:02, 27 June 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Calliergon cordifolium

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Meat dress image

The photobook issue was never discussed on Talk:Meat dress of Lady Gaga. And how is it not okay? A non-free image is the only way we can show the meat dress, and any other non-free image is a publicity/press photo which is unusable. –Chase (talk / contribs) 02:26, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Have we met?

J Milburn, meet J. Milburn II StringdaBrokeda (talk) 17:01, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't get it. [3] try this. StringdaBrokeda (talk) 17:06, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
If you have a reply, here would be best. As it stands I involved another administrator when it seemed rather obvious that the other account was not being operated by you. Thanks. StringdaBrokeda (talk) 23:19, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
That's not me. J Milburn (talk) 10:54, 30 June 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 June newsletter


Apologies for the lateness of this letter; our usual bot wasn't working. We are now entering round 4, our semi-finals, and have our final 16. A score of 243 was required to reach this round; significantly more than 2011's 76 points, and only a little behind 2010's 250 points. By comparison, last year, 150 points in round 4 secured a place in the final; in 2010, 430 were needed. Commiserations to Pool A's Minas Gerais igordebraga (submissions), who scored 242 points, missing out on a place in the round by a whisker. However, congratulations to Pool B's Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions), whose television articles have brought him another round victory. Pool A's Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second overall, with an impressive list of biological did you knows, good articles and featured articles. Third overall was Pool D's New York City Muboshgu (submissions), with a long list of contibutions, mostly relating to baseball. Of course, with the points resetting every round, the playing field has been levelled. The most successful Pool was Pool D, which saw seven into the final round. Pool B saw four, C saw three and Pool A saw only the two round leaders.

A quick note about other competitions taking place on Wikipedia which may be of interest. There are 13 days remaining in the June-July GAN backlog elimination drive, but it is not too late to take part. August will also see the return of The Core Contest- a one month long competition first run in 2007. While the WikiCup awards points for audited content on any subject, The Core Contest about is raw article improvement, focussing heavily on the most important articles on Wikipedia. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail) 10:58, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

All the Way... A Decade of Song

Hi, I don't know how to change the album cover and sound samples to smaller ones. Could you size them down? Max24 (talk) 12:43, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

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CSD of I Am America EP file

Simply saying "no reason that this cover is significant" is not helpful when I actually gave a reason. Why do you think the rationale I provided is not sufficient? It is the artist's first EP and contains the two songs she is most known for and the source for the caption in the article is a review of the EP so I do not see how its use would fail to satisfy the NFCC. The argument that there is no consensus that an album's cover art should be used on an article not about the album itself seems more like a dispute over the guideline's allowance for cover art under these very circumstances. As such the use of speedy deletion would be inappropriate.--The Devil's Advocate (talk) 18:23, 4 July 2012 (UTC) You have new message/s Hello. You have a new message at The Devil's Advocate's talk page.

Peer review

Hello, would you be able to peer review the giant anteater article? LittleJerry (talk) 20:56, 2 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, can you first take a quick look at the Tammar FAC for MOS and comprehensiveness? LittleJerry (talk) 18:30, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

edit war

Please clear up or the edit war that is going on in File:The_Amazing_Spider-Man_theatrical_poster.jpeg or protect the page so they can discuss. They have gone past the limit of edit warring. Jhenderson 777 18:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Image query

Hi, I have an image question. These two images, File:Hemingway monument.jpg and File:Floridita.JPG, have been added the Ernest Hemingway pages since it went through an image review at FAC. The first one I've commented out, but basically I'm not certain about either of them because they're statues so need your advice. Thanks. Truthkeeper (talk) 01:02, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

File:The Amazing Spider-Man theatrical poster.jpeg

Hi, J Milburn. I am a little puzzled as to why you decided to full-protect this file and place a warning on the talk page the participants, when I had about five hours earlier decided not to protect the page and had spoken to two of the participants. Was I in error in some way in the way I handled this case? If so, I would have appreciated receiving a note from you as to why you decided to over-ride my decision and handle the matter differently. Regards, -- Dianna (talk) 03:27, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Need some help

Hi! I want to upload some images from Flickr to Commons, such as (I plan on using it in At Long Last Leave). As you can see, the images uploaded by that user have been released under the CC BY 2.0 license, but the description says "© 2012" and their website says "All rights reserved". So basically it's a bit unclear if the photographer (Doug Kline) was the one who uploaded the images to Flickr (or someone else working for the website), and if he wanted to release them under the CC BY 2.0 license. I therefore emailed the website with this message:

Hi! You have uploaded a bunch of images on Flickr under the Creative Commons Attribution 2.0 Generic (CC BY 2.0) license, which means they can be used by others (I for example want to use some of your Simpsons images on Wikipedia). Was this choice of license intentional or do you actually not want people to use your images?

And Kline (the photographer) responded:

Yes, you can use the images as long as you give credit by saying “photo by Doug Kline” and linking to the original image on Flickr. Thanks.

So now I have evidence that these images can be used on Wikipedia. Is there a way to like "save" this evidence, by forwarding the email conversation to OTRS or something? Theleftorium (talk) 19:46, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

I have now uploaded one image, File:Simpsons 500th Episode Marathon - the ultimate fans.jpg, but it would be nice to have some OTRS template or something on the file's description page that confirms the license. Theleftorium (talk) 19:59, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
I see! I guess the Flickr license is sufficient. By the way, what happens if a Flickr user changes a usable license to All rights reserved? Is it possible to do that? Theleftorium (talk) 13:12, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Makes sense, thanks! Theleftorium (talk) 13:16, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

2012 notes

Hi J,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Hera-photo-by-kyle-cassidy.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on July 8, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-07-08. howcheng {chat} 17:34, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

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Audio samples

Hi. I reverted your edits to the audio samples I recently uploaded for Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik. Those two are of reduced quality and 30 sec. of the originals (Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Music samples) I've been adding similarly reduced samples to other GAN articles and havent had the issue of reducing them further brought up. Is there a problem with them? Dan56 (talk) 20:32, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but it's "usually". The point is for them to be reduced, so does 30 more kilo-whatevers a potential copyright issue? Dan56 (talk) 20:40, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
I thought it'd be more of a pain than it really was. I used to reduce them, and I'll remember the kilo# next time. Dan56 (talk) 20:52, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Tortuga Bay hotel villas.jpg

Regarding the photo "Tortuga Bay hotel villas.jpg" which I recently uploaded to Wikipedia. Link:

Hi there- I'm afraid I was unable to find a statement releasing content into the public domain on the website; could you point me to it? Please reply on my talk page. Thanks, J Milburn (talk) 20:24, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the message. This is the first time I have uploaded this type of photo to Wiki (all others have been solely my own photos) so I am thinking I did it wrong! I linked to the official website, assuming that would be enough (it shows the photo of Tortuga Bay here: however there are no explicit words giving permission to use it. Because the photo is on the official website, free for all eyes to see, would that make it okay to use on Wiki as long as I cite it? Please advise.

Worst case scenario, I just go there (5 minutes from my current location) and take the exact same picture myself, and upload it as my own. Luculence (talk)

OK, thanks for the help! Now I have a slightly more complicated question about photo-uploading: how can I upload and use a photo that was taken by the Public Relations office of the hotel corporation I work for? Specifically, the photo was taken by my coworker (I work in a different office than PR), but it was taken during office hours and for PR purposes so it belongs to the PR office. The photographer has given me permission to use it on the website + her boss (head of PR) has given permission as well. Please advise :) (and YES it is quite nice here!) Luculence (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:47, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Picture Issue Help

Hey thanks for noticing my image and helpful post. This was actually my very first attempt at adding a picture. Can you help me figure out why this is not a legal image to use? It is just a generic picture of an old hockey player from 1960. Here is the link of the wiki article

What do I need to do that I did not do? Please help I would like to add many pictures legally for other old hockey players. Thanks again I appreciate the help!

Also found this "However, for some retired or disbanded groups, or retired individuals whose notability rests in large part on their earlier visual appearance, a new picture may not serve the same purpose as an image taken during their career, in which case the use would be acceptable." So wouldnt this make it okay to use a 50+ year old picture of the hockey player when the man may be 90 years old today?

Tronkeft (talk) 23:21, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your very helpful response. I now understand the rules better thanks to you. I can now safely add pictures to the many old hockey players that previously did not have visual references. Here is the link to the Image File that was in question, if you want to glance at the update.,_Cleveland_Barons,_Photo,_No._2.j.jpg

Thanks again Tronkeft (talk) 16:46, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes thanks again for the fast reply. It does sound very complicated for me, and I dont know the person who posted it, so wouldnt know how to contact them and doubt that they would even reply. Also I think the original poster of the photo online is not the copyright holder anyways, since the picture is again from 1960 team photo. I think I am just going to post the pictures of the deceased players. Thanks again wish I could contribute to wikipedia more but it is too difficult for me to understand. Thanks again

Tronkeft (talk) 18:05, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Move request

Hi J, could I get you to move Fu Ling (one of several common names) to Wolfiporia extensa over the redirect? Will probably work on this article in the near future. Thanks for taking up the P. makarorae review, will get to that soon. Sasata (talk) 18:33, 11 July 2012 (UTC)


You an unprotection request at RFPP, File:The Amazing Spider-Man theatrical poster.jpeg. Armbrust, B.Ed. WrestleMania XXVIII The Undertaker 20–0 19:36, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

Redding articles


please stop your removal of the samples. They clearly meet the WP:NFC criteria. Regards.--GoPTCN 15:20, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

No album cover is "significant". You need to be more specific. If you would search for the album on Google Pictures, you see it is even more common than the original: [4]--GoPTCN 15:28, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Edit warring on Amazing Spider-Man poster

Hi J. Just wondering why you have sent me a message warning me about edit warring on this poster when the last time I did anything on it was over three weeks ago. Quentin X (talk) 07:59, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply, although I would have appreciated it if you had erred on the side of the ummm rather than the ahhh...... Quentin X (talk) 08:22, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
Yeah I was wondering if you were sending me a warning too at first. But I am pretty sure you were just trying to be neutral. ;) Jhenderson 777 14:38, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Hello J Milburn. I just wanted to know that I can upload the official final poster of The Amazing Spider-Man, but don't worry, I warned both Metriod100 and NeoBatFreak to do not revert this time and I have a version of 290px of that poster. Source:

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Hello, will you be continuing your peer review? LittleJerry (talk) 18:52, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

What do you think?

Hi, im just about to start reviewing Dr. Banks as it has been nominated for GA review. First looking over of it gives me an inclined reason to fail it on GA criteria 3a. The "Development" part is not neccesary, the "Plot" is writter rather strange and the article only has two real world references, the rest being references to support the plot. Opinions? — M.Mario (T/C) 20:56, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Dont worry know, the aritcle was infact deleted. Thanks anyway, — M.Mario (T/C) 08:34, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

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Poppy Meadow at FAC (3)

Hi, sorry for the section I created on your talk page! Can I interest you in taking a look at Poppy Meadow again, as it is on FAC review again? You said "Support" on the last review. Anyway, if you could just take a look, it would be much appreciated. Current review is here. — M.Mario (T/C) 12:54, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


HI JM, I seem to recall that you owned a copy of (or otherwise had access to) Roger Phillip's 2006 Mushrooms (ISBN 9780330442374). If this is indeed the case, could you please take a look to see if the text attributed to this source in the article Amanita excelsa is accurate? I've already corrected some problems from sources I have, but am worried the problem might be larger. Thanks, Sasata (talk) 02:49, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

POTD notification

Hi J,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Steampunk-falksen.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on July 31, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-07-31. howcheng {chat} 17:16, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Willful disregardful of WP:ME.

The WP:ME doesn't outline any punishments for willfully not obeying it, and misusing minor edits. What steps are appropriate for someone who refuses to get it, and wants to redefine what it means. The user specifically stated "I deleted that text, but I also put it into the lead last year. These are minor edits to text I inserted long ago - it is revisions to my own work." and basically told me to screw off and is continuing to misuses the feature. The Majority of his edits are marked minor, and virtually all of them are changes to meaning/wording of the article, things people COULD object too. — raekyt 04:55, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Ian Fleming

Many thanks for your thoughts regarding the images on the Peter Sellers article: they are much appreciated and we will cotinue to work our way through them to ensure their suitability. I wonder if I could please ask for your comments on two other pages: Peter Sellers on stage, screen and record (I think there is just one image that raises a question but I may as well get that issue sorted now) and Ian Fleming, where there are three non-free images. Fleming is going through a Mil Hist review at the moment prior to FAC, which should come up in three or four weeks, so again I'd like to nail any issues before that happens. If you don't have the time then it really is no problem at all, but it would be great if you could. Thanks again for your thoughts on Sellers. Cheers - SchroCat (^@) 05:11, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Many thanks again for your thoughts: it is very mcuh appreciated. Shame to lose a few of the images in other articles, but I'll work on those in Fleming and see what I can do to get them up to scratch. - SchroCat (^@) 11:09, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Hi JM, I tried to update the main Ian Fleming photo today and saw that the link had expired, so I was unable to verify any further details. A websearch through Google Images also no other sources for this picture. I have uploaded a new picture and added what I think is an acceptable rationale. Many thanks - SchroCat (^@) 23:08, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

Peter Sellers - Peer review

Hi J Milburn, Sorry to bother you, but I need to ask a favour. I have the above up for peer reveiew and it has been mentioned that some of the images may have their problems. We are very keen to take Sellers to FAC eventually and would really appreciate a small image review so we are 100% ready for the process. We don't expect many of them to survive, (there are 14 in total) but with your help and expertees, we would feel that much more confident when the time comes for a FA consideration. If your too busy, then no worries at all. All the best! -- CassiantoTalk 09:38, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

JM, thanks for dropping by. Your excellent review was fair and frank and very much appreciated. -- CassiantoTalk 22:21, 28 July 2012 (UTC)

Talk page disputes

Thanks for taking the time for reviewing. I don't want to assume anything, so feel I should ask whether the numerous disputes with some of the edits were looked at. Since no mention was made in the review, it seems like a reasonable question. The recent and most relevant talk page discussions began a few weeks ago, beginning with problems with the infobox, and continuing with disputed paragraph and heading re-structure.

On another topic, the former lead image, File:Sellers-signed.jpg, was removed based on your uncertainty of its PD status, and was replaced with one much less becoming of a major British actor. I have uploaded other PD images to replace extremely poor lead images for Vivien Leigh and Laurence Olivier with no issues. It's sad to see a much improved image removed due to questions that could be resolved with some prior discussion. I would have no difficulty getting a provenance and image of the the reverse side as I've been in contact with the source auction house about some other images. They appreciate having their company listed as a source. In any case, the image has not been questioned by the Commons. I'd hope you'd agree that pending any clear dispute as to the the image, it will greatly improve the article compared to its current one. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 01:20, 29 July 2012 (UTC)


Hi JM, Sorry to bother you on the increasingly vexed question of the Sellers image, but I note that File:Sellers-signed.jpg has been signed. I'm in no way a copyright expert, but having had the signature of Ian Fleming deleted from WikiCommons on the grounds that UK signatures hold copyright, is this something that this image should be concerned about? Thanks - SchroCat (^@) 19:42, 30 July 2012 (UTC)


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WikiCup 2012 July newsletter


We're approaching the beginning of 2012's final round. Pool A sees Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) as the leader, with 300 points being awarded for the featured article Bivalvia, and Pool B sees Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions) in the lead, with 10 good articles, and over 35 articles eligible for good topic points. Pool A sees New York City Muboshgu (submissions) in second place with a number of articles relating to baseball, while Pool B's Minnesota Ruby2010 (submissions) follows Grapple X, with a variety of contributions including the high-scoring, high-importance featured article on the 2010 film Pride & Prejudice. Ruby2010, like Grapple X, also claimed a number of good topic points; despite this, not a single point has been claimed for featured topics in the contest so far. The same is true for featured portals.

Currently, the eighth-place competitor (and so the lowest scorer who would reach the final round right now) has scored 332, more than double the 150 needed to reach the final round last year. In 2010, however, 430 was the lowest qualifying score. In this competition, we have generally seen scores closer to those in 2010 than those in 2011. Let's see what kind of benchmark we can set for future competitions! As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail) 22:26, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

WP Fungi in the Signpost

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Fungi for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 00:58, 4 August 2012 (UTC)

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Sellers FAC

Hi J, Peter Sellers is up for FAC and needs an image review if your able. Seeing as we got you involved early on at the PR, I envisage the review being hassle free with no issues. If you are able could you oblige? -- CassiantoTalk 08:24, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

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Homer Simpson, This Is Your Wife

Hi J Milburn, I hope all is well with you! I've nominated Homer Simpson, This Is Your Wife for FA status (I figured I have nothing to lose) and mentioned you in the nom. I'm not expecting you to make any comments there (unless you want to), I just thought I'd let you know. :) Theleftorium (talk) 16:33, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Misha B

APOLOGIES: I misread the editorial assistance columns and thought you helped in disputes. ...Zoebuggie☺whispers 02:32, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you, but I need help.

I have requested the re-opening the Dispute Resolution mechanism for the Misha B article @ Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard/Archive 38 as the debate about neutrality has really flared up. on User talk:Steven Zhang who closed the original Dispute Resolution based on my one else in the dispute contributed.

or should I go to formal mediation?

I make no pretence that I am a fan, I guess the majority articles about (living) people are started and mainly contributed by those who are 'fans', but my contibutions have been done in good faith regards neutrality (as a newbie I have made not spotting blogs) I always take personal criticism and attacks maybe too seriously but I have said I welcome genuine verifiable editing contributions from others, even when they remove my contributions, which can be seen from page history.

Bias about bullying

Biased and promotional


Misha B Layout Structure

Why does the Misha article read like a magazine article?

Too much information and way too biased

WP:NPOV/N is probably your best bet here. Steven Zhang ....*Which I have followed

In the mean time I would very much welcome a neutral viewpoint from someone not involved in the article.........Zoebuggie☺whispers 02:28, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

POTD notification

Hi J,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Bufo periglenes2.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on August 16, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-08-16. howcheng {chat} 16:57, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


Please disregard my recent email. I was feeling angry at the time I wrote it but have since recovered my equanimity and regret sending it. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 05:25, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Image derivatives

Hi J Milburn. I recently created a file, File:Topological map of TFL rail systems.svg, using coordinates on Wikipedia articles on each station, and OpenStreetMap for route directions, tracing the lines to create a geographically correct map, and then re-tracing the lines to create a schematic diagram with straight lines and 45- and 90-degree corners. It's been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2012 August 11#File:Topological map of TFL rail systems.svg as a derivative of the official Transport for London Tube Map. I don't really understand derivative, and derivative work didn't really help me either, but User:Moonriddengirl suggested you might be able to explain and help me.

If it is a derivative, how is it so, when I used freely available information to create the map, and didn't reference the Offical Map at all during the creation. Surely TFL, despite the copyright notice on their map, cannot claim copyright on every schematic diagram of London's tube stations? What I also don't understand is that we have two Feature Pictures of schematic maps for Madrid Metro (File:Madrid Metro Map.svg) and New York Subway (File:NYC subway-4D.svg), and why they are okay, but mine is "not acceptable".

Any help or advice you can give me will be appreciated. I was hoping to nominate at FPC somewhere down the line but now I'm feeling a bit bummed about it. Matthewedwards (talk · contribs) 05:51, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

image review

Can you please do another for the giant anteater FAC? LittleJerry (talk) 03:03, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. LittleJerry (talk) 18:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup Newsletters

I am an inactive Wikipedian. Back when I was active, I signed up for the WikiCup newsletter. I have not logged in in over a year, and just logged in to check on my account. I saw some WikiCup newsletters. Thanks a million for giving them to me, but please cancel it. Us441(talk)(contribs) 23:36, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

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Capital Museum2 Beijing.jpg

Thank you for alerting me to proper procedure for posting an image owned by another party. I am sending the copyright release form to the permissions email address that you indicated. Sincerely, Enviromet (talk) 15:35, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Ed Macfarlane Washington DC 26 May 2011.jpg

Hi, thanks for pointing out missing information for my image. I've added the GFDL tag - can you check this and let me know if this is okay now? I appreciate your help and guidance, as this is the first time I've tried to upload a photo of my own to Wikipedia. the image is for the article on musician Ed Macfarlane.

Mozandeffect (talk) 17:47, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes - I took this photo last year. I am a music blogger. Sorry for the ambiguity - I wasn't sure what information to include and where to specify this. I was using the photo on Yannis Philippakis(File:Yannis_Philippakis_-_Foals_-_Roskilde_2011.jpg) as a guide, and that photo's information was pretty minimal.

Mozandeffect (talk) 19:56, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Shifty Adventures in Nookie Wood album cover art.jpg

File:Shifty Adventures in Nookie Wood album cover art.jpg; now it's OK? --Marek Koudelka (talk) 18:09, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo

Hi J. Milburn! Sorry to bother you, but if you have the time, could you give some feedback on The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo? It recently became a GA article, and I plan on nominating to FA. If you do choose to do the task, you can comment here. :) —DAP388 (talk) 02:33, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Image Copyrights

Hi, I am quite new to uploading images on Wikipedia so I am sorry for any mistakes in the copyrights info. This was so because most of the copyright information seemed quite intricate to me. So, please guide me about how to post a 3rd party image on Wikipedia without any violations of copyrights. Thankyou. Wiki.0hlic (talk) 07:04, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

POTD notification

Hi J,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Lady Margaret Beaufort from NPG.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on August 22, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-08-22. howcheng {chat} 00:44, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Nisbets Photo Copyrights

Hi J Millburn, I'm new to uploading images on Wikipedia too, so any help you could give would be great.

Here are the 3 photos in dispute:,_Access-18,_Avonmouth.jpg,_4th_Way,_Avonmouth.jpg

I have been given permission by the company to use those photos on the Wikipedia page. Although, they don't want other people to be using them, hence the choice of copyright status.

I felt that the photos albeit not totally necessary, did add something to the article. They encourage the reader continue reading the article and proivde a visual learning experience that can't be conveyed in just the text.

I could potentially use free liscened photos in the article, although I felt that an unnecessary sacrifice of quality.

I eagerly await any advice and help you could give me as to how to make these photos acceptable, or whether my explation justifies the publishing of the photos.

Thanks, AnthonyDHigginson (talk) 14:03, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi J Milburn, thanks for your latest comment. After communicating this with the owners of the photographs, Nisbets Plc, they've given me permission to release the photos under a free liscence. Is there any easy way of just converting the photos used? Or do I have to go back in and upload the photos again under this new liscence. AnthonyDHigginson (talk) 15:16, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Image query

Hi JM, I'm thinking about sending Phallus indusiatus to FAC soon. I'm wondering if there might be a problem with the images File:Phallus indusiatus 96871 ed2.jpg and File:Phallus merulinus 29719.jpg. Although they were appropriately licensed cc-by-sa/3.0 when they were uploaded, the owners have since changed the licensing to by-nc-sa/3.0. The first is a featured pic, and I'm assuming the license was checked when it was at FPC (and so presumably might be ok?), but I'm not sure about the second, as I don't really have any proof (other than my word!) that the license was initially kosher. BTW, per my request, Mushroom Observer has since started tracking licence changes (see here for a recent example of where this is useful for us), but it doesn't cover old license changes. Should I start looking for a replacement for the latter image? (p.s. thanks again for another GA review, I'll address your concerns sometime today or tomorrow). Sasata (talk) 18:19, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

Walden Two cover image

I uploaded a reduced image of the cover of "Walden Two". I do not want to make the image any smaller because it will become difficult to see the small yellow lines that radiate from the "O" in "Walden Two". Those small yellow lines make the "O" look like an image of the Sun and thus an allusion to Henry David Thoreau's assertion that "The sun is but a morning star". This allusion is mentioned in the text of the article about Walden Two, together with a reference to the cover image in the Infobox. SamanthaJF (talk) 00:32, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Request for opinion at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Commons fair use upload bot 2

Hi, I've requested to renew authorization for my bot at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Commons fair use upload bot 2. You recently participated in the discussion about it at ANI so I wanted to invite your opinion. Thank you! Dcoetzee 02:02, 27 August 2012 (UTC)


The reason for assuming this map was in the public domain was based on the 70 year rule; the book being published 86 years ago in England. --Rskp (talk) 02:27, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

If its a case of wrong tag, can you tell me which one should be used? --Rskp (talk) 08:34, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
I've just cut the map as a consequence of you saying its not in the public domain. --Rskp (talk) 08:39, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
Not a problem. --Rskp (talk) 08:57, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

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Non-free rationale for File:Unholy Alliance Tour.jpg

Thanks for uploading or contributing to File:Unholy Alliance Tour.jpg. I notice the file page specifies that the file is being used under non-free content criteria, but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Wikipedia is acceptable. Please go to the file description page, and edit it to include a non-free rationale.

If you have uploaded other non-free media, consider checking that you have specified the non-free rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free media lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If the file is already gone, you can still make a request for undeletion and ask for a chance to fix the problem. If you have any questions, please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 17:05, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

WikiCup 2012 August newsletter


The final is upon us! We are down to our final 8. A massive 573 was our lowest qualifying score; this is higher than the 150 points needed last year and the 430 needed in 2010. Even in 2009, when points were acquired for mainspace edit count in addition to audited content, 417 points secured a place. That leaves this year's WikiCup, by one measure at least, our most competitive ever. Our finalists, ordered by round 4 score, are:

  1. Conradh na Gaeilge Grapple X (submissions) once again finishes the round in first place, leading Pool B. Grapple X writes articles about television, and especially The X-Files and Millenium, with good articles making up the bulk of the score.
  2. Wisconsin Miyagawa (submissions) led Pool A this round. Fourth-place finalist last year, Miyagawa writes on a variety of topics, and has reached the final primarily off the back of his massive number of did you knows.
  3. Minnesota Ruby2010 (submissions) was second in Pool B. Ruby2010 writes primarily on television and film, and scores primarily from good articles.
  4. Scotland Casliber (submissions) finished third in Pool B. Casliber is something of a WikiCup veteran, having finished sixth in 2011 and fourth in 2010. Casliber writes on the natural sciences, including ornithology, botany and astronomy. Over half of Casliber's points this round were bonus points from the high-importance articles he has worked on.
  5. Wales Cwmhiraeth (submissions) came second in Pool A. Also writing on biology, especially marine biology, Cwmhiraeth received 390 points for one featured article (Bivalvia) and one good article (pelican), topping up with a large number of did you knows.
  6. New York City Muboshgu (submissions) was third in Pool A. Muboshgu writes primarily on baseball, and this round saw Muboshgu's first featured article, Derek Jeter, promoted on its fourth attempt at FAC.
  7. Michigan Dana Boomer (submissions) was fourth in Pool A. She writes on a variety of topics, including horses, but this round also saw the high-importance lettuce reach featured article status.
  8. Canada Sasata (submissions) is another WikiCup veteran, having been a finalist in 2009 and 2010. He writes mostly on mycology.

However, we must also say goodbye to the eight who did not make the final, having fallen at the last hurdle: Russia GreatOrangePumpkin (submissions), England Ealdgyth (submissions), England Calvin999 (submissions), Poland Piotrus (submissions), North Carolina Toa Nidhiki05 (submissions), Florida 12george1 (submissions), Cherokee Nation The Bushranger (submissions) and Republic of Macedonia 1111tomica (submissions). We hope to see you all next year.

On the subject of next year, a discussion has been opened here. Come and have your say about the competition, and how you'd like it to run in the future. This brainstorming will go on for some time before more focused discussions/polls are opened. As ever, if you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talkemail) and The ed17 (talkemail) 00:16, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

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I could probably just ask permission to keep the larger image up

I have permission to use that logo anywhere to promote 101, how do I prove that, do I need to screengrab an email or such? Or can I just say I have the permission? I can also resize it if I need to. --occono (talk) 00:24, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I understand, I'll resize it then. --occono (talk) 17:07, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

WP:FOUR for Inocybe saliceticola

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Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Inocybe saliceticola. TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:00, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 20:00, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

POTD notification

Hi J,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture File:Henry Compton by Sir Godfrey Kneller, Bt.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on September 12, 2012. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2012-09-12. howcheng {chat} 16:59, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

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Please unblock User:Commons fair use upload bot

Hi, I didn't see you comment at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Commons fair use upload bot 2, but the bot was approved for another 7 day trial. Could you please unblock it for that duration? I'll ensure this time that it terminates operation on En at the end of the trial. Thank you! Dcoetzee 13:18, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps you can help me

sort through the copyright issues involving File:John Angel.jpg. That image was given to me by a family member years ago to use in my research, with is now spilling over onto wikipedia. Would it be better if I just said that the image was mine? Part of my archives? Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 15:07, 11 September 2012 (UTC).

The picture is 60 years old (give or take) so the photographer is likely dead too. (Angel died in 1960, I believe). The family gave the picture to me. The picture is a detail from a larger picture of the monument, taken in England, which enjoys freedom of panorama. I don't see the problem. Carptrash (talk) 15:19, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I have attempted to re-establish contact with the family member who gave me the pictures and will try and get a better statement from him. I am hoping that after a decade or so his email address is still in play. Life. It is so rarely boring. Carptrash (talk) 18:10, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


Hi there Chiguinoki, and welcome to Wikipedia. I'm afraid I have had to delete HenriqueCapriles.jpg, as the photograph was originally from the Associated Press, whose images are not licensed in a Wikipedia-friendly way. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me on my talk page. J Milburn (talk) 15:08, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for pointing it out. I will try to upload a picture of Capriles which is copyright-safe for Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiguinoki (talkcontribs) 16:00, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

One O'Clock Lab Band

Album images, uploaded via wikipedia, can only be used for infobox? What level of permission does one need for images in the body of an article, given that the image is copyrighted? Eurodog (talk) 16:49, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I emailed you (w/how-to questions) Eurodog (talk) 17:47, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

Pink Floyd

To clarify, are you saying you will oppose until all the album images are removed or you will oppose until the FURs are improved? Also, in regards to the lead image, are you still certain that it does not pass? Thanks.~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 22:54, 11 September 2012 (UTC)


Thanks for posting an inquiry on the Wikipedia:Non-free content talk page to get more input. I've posted an RfC notice there to attract more input, so we can get closure on it. Your wording there is asking people to comment at the PF FAC page: would you mind amending your text to guide people to post their comments there, in the NFC talk page? Once we get community consensus on the issue (one way or another) then, of course, the PF FAC should follow suit. Cheers. --Noleander (talk) 17:43, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Advice on Beatles images sought

There is a discussion taking place here in which your knowledge would be helpful. Cheers! ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 22:55, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Image use RfC

Would you kindly remove the link to the Pink Floyd FAC please. This conversation does not need to occur in two locations and the excess comments are bogging down the FAC to which this is only tangentially related. Also, this "canvass" could generate more arbitrary opposes. Thanks. ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 22:05, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Are you willing to help tighten up the FURs that need tightening, or at least provide some guidance as to what you suggest? ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 22:42, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
Is this an improvement? ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 00:01, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
How about this one? ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 00:18, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
  • I have improved the FURs for the album images used in the article and I believe they are now up to standard. Please correct me if I am mistaken. ~ GabeMc (talk|contribs) 02:11, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Ian Fleming

Hi JM, You very kindly gave the images at Ian Fleming a quick review a month or two ago (Talk:Ian Fleming#Image review). I wonder if you could do the same thing as part of an FA process? (WP:Featured article candidates/Ian Fleming/archive2) Many thanks for any comments you are able to make. Cheers - SchroCat (^@) 08:14, 16 September 2012 (UTC)

Meth mouth

Hi again, thanks for the GA review on meth mouth. I've replied at the review, I think I've taken care of the issues that you pointed out, and the article has been copyedited by another user. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 02:32, 12 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the review, I appreciate it greatly! Mark Arsten (talk) 17:13, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

Potential FACs?

Hi, since you've helped with other nominations, I was thinking if you could briefly assess whether any of the following GA articles have FAC potential? I have pretty much sucked the sources on them dry, so there's not much more I can add, but they could need a copy edit and other formalities. The articles are: Mauritius Blue Pigeon, Red Rail, and Broad-billed Parrot. FunkMonk (talk) 13:06, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

The Signpost: 17 September 2012

FAC oppose

Per this comment I was hoping you could tak eanother look as I think I have addressed your concerns, or I can certainly address any I have missed. Cheers! 21:49, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Focus the Nation

I wanted to notify you that I have nominated this article for deletion, an article that you prodded five years ago when the article was started. You are welcome to voice your comments or concerns at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Focus the Nation. SwisterTwister talk 22:11, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

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DYKs held for November

Hello, I have some DYKs that either are approved (Template:Did you know nominations/Michelle Lujan Grisham and Template:Did you know nominations/Luke Messer) or should soon be approved (Template:Did you know nominations/Shelli Yoder and Template:Did you know nominations/Dan Kildee) that won't run until after November 6, since the articles are on active candidates in the US elections. I'd like them to count to my final round score. What's the process here? Thanks for running the competition. – Muboshgu (talk) 21:19, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Image discussion

Hi. Can I get a quick opinion on a discussion at Talk:Born This Way#Image removal? An editor insists on keeping one of the "beautiful pictures" available of the album's singer in the article's section on charting and sales. Dan56 (talk) 23:33, 22 September 2012 (UTC)