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January 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

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January 2017

Women Philosophers & Women in Education online editathons
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The Signpost: 17 January 2017[edit]

Speedy deletion nomination of ANK '64[edit]

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February 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

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February 2017

Black Women & Women Anthropologists online editathons
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The Signpost: 6 February 2017[edit]

WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.1[edit]

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Progress report:

Since the Projects very first edit 9 december 2002 by User:Dan Koehl, which eventually became the WikiProject Genealogy, different templates were developed, and the portal Portal:Genealogy was founded by User:Michael A. White in 2008. Over the years a number of articles has been written, with more or less association to genealogy. And, very exciting, there is a proposal made on Meta by User:Another Believer to found a new Wikimedia Genealogy Project, read more at Meta; Wikimedia genealogy project where you also can support the creation with your vote, in case you havnt done so already.

Future:

The future of the Genealogy project on the English Wikipedia, and a potential creation of a new Wikimedia Genealogy Project, is something where you can make a an input.

You can

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March 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

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Errors[edit]

I seem to be find a lot of very basic errors in articles where you have been involved, which surprises me given your experience. Among the more trivial is the correction I have just made here. We do not put citations in section headings - see WP:MOSHEAD - and your very frequent use of a citation style similar to <ref>[http://www.worldcat.org/search?q=ruys+charlotte Charlotte Ruys] in Worldcat</ref> is really poor, although perhaps that is not the best example to demonstrate why it is thus. When citing web sources, indicating the website version date upon which the statements are based is pretty much always the right thing to do. That issue, and many many more that seem to involve you, have also been apparent at articles such as Louisa Holthuysen and Museum Willet-Holthuysen.

Of course, we all make mistakes from time to time but you do not appear to be new to Wikipedia and, indeed, you seem to have had involvement in GLAM projects that were financially supported by the WMF etc. It concerns me a bit so please do not be surprised if you find me popping up at other articles where you have been involved: some of the issues appear prima facie to include misrepresenting sources and/or not providing any means to verify, which are rather crucial to how we are supposed to operate. - Sitush (talk) 15:41, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sitush, you are quite correct that most of my citations look like this, because I always choose the easiest way to make a citation and if there was some automatic way to add the "retrieved=today" I would do so, but sadly there is not. I never did figure out how to quickly use any other way and I prefer to get pages up rather than refine them. Go ahead and feel free to clean them up! I can also assure you my errors are wholly my own, so please do not assume they could reflect on any WMF sponsored projects. Best, Jane (talk) 16:16, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
Yours is an approach that creates a lot of unnecessary work for other people and potentially adds to the numerous accusations that Wikipedia is unreliable. Eg: you appear to have completely misrepresented the relationship of Louisa Holthuysen and her husband, making out that she had married some sort of leech rather than - as it seems from the English-language version of your museum source - it being a joining of two people with common interests. That's not just blasé, it's plain wrong.
There are plenty of tools to help you with citations, eg: Reflinks and even the menu of the wikitext editor, although I tend to do that stuff by hand. They're imperfect but much better than what you are doing at present and, really, if you're so pushed for time that you cannot spare a minute to use them then that might also explain the factual errors that seem to be happening. In that case, surely it would be better to slow down? A minute expended now can save a lot of time later if a site changes and/or some archived version of it needs to be used. A quick look around almost suggests a competence issue, so poor is your grasp of some basic policies and guidelines. That can't be right, can it? You've been here since 2006.

For citing using the text editor, just click on "Cite" in the menu bar at the top, then select the desired template from the list and complete the dialog that appears. (I think that is how I started, although it's so long ago I may be wrong.) - Sitush (talk) 16:36, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

Well I disagree. If I had more time I could be more thorough, but I think these articles do give the reader an improession of what they represent, and I believe it is better than nothing. Jane (talk) 17:52, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 February 2017[edit]

This Month in Education: [February 2017][edit]

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TED speakers-lists[edit]

Hi, while searching for broken files names I noticed the following lists; hi:सदस्य:Jane023/TED speakers, ja:利用者:Jane023/TED speakers, ko:사용자:Jane023/TED speakers, pa:ਵਰਤੋਂਕਾਰ:Jane023/TED speakers, pnb:ورتنوالا:Jane023/TED speakers, pt:Usuária:Jane023/TED speakers, tr:Kullanıcı:Jane023/TED speakers, vi:Thành viên:Jane023/TED speakers, zh:User:Jane023/TED speakers

which doesn't seem to auto update, and thus when the CommonsDelinker and similar doesn't... delink deleted files, broken file names still appear. I don't know if you are able to make them update, but thanks in advance :) TherasTaneel (talk) 00:05, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

Interesting, thanks for the heads up! These lists you have linked will never update unless I do it by hand again, because none of those languages have given ListeriaBot update access. I believe the Portuguese Wikipedia even actively voted against it. The only reason I created these specific lists (there are only 41 languages that currently support Listeria) is because those are on the "top 20 languages" list at TED's translation department and thus most likely to contain local transcripts for TED talks. Theoretically TED speaker lists would therefore be most useful in those 20 languages. You can monitor progress for Listeria across Wikipedia languages here d:Q19860885. Under the sitelinks you can see the 41 languages, and since I last checked, 3 more languages have enabled Listeria. One of these, Armenian, has even copied my list hy:Մասնակից:Beko/ցուցակներ/TED հռետորներ. I just updated my static list for Polish (pl:Wikipedysta:Jane023/TED speakers) to be dynamic but I see you didn't link it above. I think that means that the static/dynamic part has nothing to do with CommonsDelinker. Jane (talk) 09:21, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.2[edit]

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Progress report:

In order to improve communication between genealogy interested wikipedians, as well talking in chat mode about the potential new wiki, a new irc channel has been setup, and you are welcome to visit and try it out at: #wikimedia-genealogyconnect

(In case you are not familiar with IRC, or would prefer some info and intro, please see Wikipedias IRC tutorial)

At m:Talk:Wikimedia_genealogy_project#Wikimedia_user_group is discussed the possibility of creating a genealogy-related Wikimedia user group: please submit comments and suggestions, and whether you would like to be a member in such a group. Prime goal for the group is the creation of a new, free, genealogy wiki, but there is also a discussion weather we should propose a new project or support the adoption of an existing project?

Read more at Meta; Wikimedia genealogy project where you also can support the creation with your vote, in case you haven't done so already.

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Afspraak Amsterdam Museum met Judith, Emilie en Ellen, 20 maart om 13:00 uur[edit]

Hallo Jane,

Emilie en ik hebben je laatst gesproken bij Atria, en we hebben samen de Louise Holthuysen-pagina aangemaakt. We nodigen je graag uit voor een afspraak in het Amsterdam Museum in het kader van Wikipedia/Wikimedia. Is maandag 20 maart om 13:00 uur voor jou een geschikt tijdstip?

Alvast hartelijk dank voor je medewerking,

Met vriendelijke groet, — Preceding unsigned comment added by EllenL1959 (talkcontribs) 16:12, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Ja prima. Trouwens zoals je hierboven kan lezen was tenminste één lezer niet blij met die paginas! Maar wie weet kunnen jullie straks dit soort commentaar onwiki zelf snappen en verwerken c.q. verwerpen, aan de hand van de bronnen die jullie al bij elkaar gevonden hebben. Tot de 20ste! Jane (talk) 16:22, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Genealogy project need your vote for creation of an email list[edit]

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Request:

In order to improve communication between genealogy interested wikipedians, as well as taking new, important steps towards a creation of a new project site, we need to make communication between the users easier and more effective.

At Mail list on meta is discussed the possibility of creating a genealogy-related Wikimedia email list. In order to request the creation of such a list, we need your voice and your vote.

In order to create a new list, we need to put a request it in Phabricator, and add a link to reasoning/explanation of purpose, and link to community consensus. Therefore we need your vote for this now, so we can request the creation of the mail list.

Read more about this email list at Meta; Wikimedia genealogy project mail list where you can support the creation of the mail list with your vote, in case you haven't done so already.

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April events at Women in Red[edit]

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WikiProject Genealogy - newsletter No.4: Mail list created![edit]

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This Month in Education: [March 2017][edit]

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Wikimedian in Residence BoF at Wikimania 2017[edit]

Hello!

My name is David Alves (User:Horadrim~usurped), and I'm an Wikipedian in Residence at RIDC NeuroMat (User:Horadrim). I've reach your contact through the Wikimedian in residence page in Outreach. As you may know, Wikimania 2017 is coming! I am here because, as a fellow WiR, I believe this would be a great opportunity for us to share experiences, discuss difficulties and exchange solutions, creating a community among us capable of supporting in other projects that would benefit from residents. In that sense, I have submitted a proposal of a Birds of a Feather activity to Wikimania that you can check out here. I hope to count with your support in this project and would like to invite you to join us if you participate in Wikimania. In case of any doubts, please feel free to contact me, either in my talk pages or by e-mail at david.alves(at)outlook.com.

Thank you very much! ‎Horadrim~usurped (talk) 00:33, 13 April 2017 (UTC)

Please support the Sustainability Initiative![edit]

Please support the Sustainability Initiative!

Hi, Jane023! Please allow me to follow up on a project that was discussed at the Wikimedia Conference in Berlin a couple of weeks ago:

I am writing you to ask for your support for the Sustainability Initiative, which aims at reducing the environmental impact of the Wikimedia movement. Over the past two years, more than 250 Wikipedians from all over the world have come together to push the Wikimedia movement towards greater sustainability.

The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has recently passed a resolution stating that the Foundation is committed to seeking ways to reduce the impact of its activities on the environment. Now, we are working with the Wikimedia Foundation staff to have all Wikimedia servers run on renewable energy by 2019.

In order to demonstrate that this is an issue that the community really cares about, I would like to ask you to sign the project page as well. Thank you! --Gnom (talk) 16:08, 14 April 2017 (UTC)

May 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

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This Month in Education: [April 2017][edit]

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Listeria lists[edit]

Hi Jane023, do you know if it is possible (on a Listeria list) to get a column that shows the sitelinks to a wikidata item? I have created this list of females in the Huygens database of women writers and I would like an extra column that indicates the wikis (if any) where this person has an article. Do you know if this is possible? Ecritures (talk) 06:55, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Well I am not sure what you want to use this for exactly - some of these items have more than 100 sitelinks, and each of these would be one row in your listeria list if you didn't loop through and collect them per item somehow. For example, this gives me over 10,000 rows of data:
SELECT ?WomanWriter ?name  ?sitelink WHERE {
  ?WomanWriter wdt:P2533 ?WomenWritersID.
  ?WomanWriter wdt:P21 wd:Q6581072.
  ?sitelink schema:about ?WomanWriter .
  OPTIONAL {
     ?WomanWriter rdfs:label ?name filter (lang(?name) = "nl").
   }
LIMIT 50

Alternatively, you can stuff all of the links into one field, which is messy but gives you clickable links, like so:

SELECT ?WomanWriter (GROUP_CONCAT(?sitelink; SEPARATOR = ", ") AS ?sitelinks) WHERE {
  ?WomanWriter wdt:P2533 ?WomenWritersID.
  ?WomanWriter wdt:P21 wd:Q6581072.
  ?sitelink schema:about ?WomanWriter.
}
GROUP BY ?WomanWriter
LIMIT 50

Usually people are only interested in the big 6 (en/de/fr/es/ru/ja) and test specifically for those links. You can create a loop list that gives you the writers by descending order of number of sitelinks, does that help?

SELECT ?WomanWriter ?name (COUNT(DISTINCT ?sitelink) as ?linkcount)
WHERE
{
  ?WomanWriter  wdt:P2533 ?WomenWritersID.
  ?WomanWriter wdt:P21 wd:Q6581072.
  ?sitelink schema:about ?WomanWriter .

  OPTIONAL {
     ?WomanWriter rdfs:label ?name filter (lang(?name) = "nl").
   }
}
GROUP BY ?WomanWriter ?name 
ORDER BY DESC(?linkcount)
LIMIT 50

I included limits just to illustrate the output but all of these will currently run without timing out when you remove those. Good luck with the database in nlwiki! Jane (talk) 09:28, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

June 2017 offerings @ WikiProject Women in Red[edit]

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TED Fellow very interested in the TED Wikiproject[edit]

Hi Jane023, Can you tell me more about the state of the project right now? I am a TED Fellow and an active Wikipedia editor as well. Very interested to learn where things stand and if I might help.

Best, --sheridanford (talk) 22:17, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Sheridan, feel free to contribute any way you would like. The TED project ran from February to the start of July last year. We made one data import to Wikidata, connected the TED talk items to TED speaker items, and finished with a month-long editathon for TED speakers on Wikipedia projects. We haven't uploaded any new metadata since. If you add new TED speaker items to Wikidata they will show up in Listeria lists if you include the TED speaker id. I never touched any articles on Wikipedia, so feel free to do that too if you wish. Best, Jane (talk) 22:47, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Boys Drawing for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Boys Drawing is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boys Drawing until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. clpo13(talk) 18:36, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 9 June 2017[edit]

Proposed deletion of Catalog of the paintings on show at the Rijksmuseum in 1956[edit]

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The article Catalog of the paintings on show at the Rijksmuseum in 1956 has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

A list of paintings at the Rijksmuseum uis of course important, it is one of the major museums of art, but it is very unclear why the list of paintings in the 1956 catalogue would be worth a separate article. This specific selection of paintings is not especially notable (again: the paintings are notable, the museum is notable, but the paintings on display in one particular year?)

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Fram (talk) 09:53, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

I am surprised to see this coming from you Fram, because I know you are interested in art exhibitions. The reasons this article is notable are the same as for any art exhibition. What is odd is that you seem to contradict the reason for deletion by stating that "the Rijksmuseum is of course important". I would really like to see such "on show" or "highlight" catalog lists (or as in this case, both) every 10-20 years or so (or each time a new director or his/her catalog comes out). For art historical reasons, it is important to show what a visitor may have seen at a certain point in time, especially since attributions are not firm, making the traceability of comments by leading figures difficult (art historians, artists, and others inspired by the art they see). I mention in the lead a few notable facts about this list - is that not enough? As far as specifying 1956 rather than the entiire D.C. Roell period, this is because I only had this version at hand, and for Wikipedia, you need to be specific. Jane (talk) 06:01, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
This is not an art exhibition though (a temporary, thematic grouping of works from different origins), but the general list of works permanently on display in the museum (yes, sometimes works get swppaed with the reserves, or loaned for exhibitions, but in general this is permanent). Focusing on those on display in one year seems bizarre, nothing makes this year more notable than any of the other 200 years or so that the museum has existed, and this specific year has not been the subject of significant independent attention, unlike major exhibitions (like the Flemish Primitives one from 1902).
It would be much better, and in line with our notability guidelines, to have lists of works in the collection of the Rijksmuseum (and which are regularly on display, not all drawings and engravings they own and so on), where you indicate things like "entered the collection in year X, included in catalogue in year Y and Z, attributed to A in 1952 but to Follower of A since 1973" and so on. The collection of the Rijksmuseum is a notable subject, the part of the collection on display in 1956 (or any year) is not a notable subject (unlike major exhibitions). See e.g. Leuchtenberg Gallery, where I didn't create articles for the different catalogues, but one for the collection. Fram (talk) 07:20, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Well of course we need articles about the individual works (and I firmly believe we should have articles for all highlights of all top museums with the info you indicate, and not just the paintings either). I disagree though about the "temporary, thematic" part, simply because the show space for leading museums has always been limited (at least after their first 50 years or so of existence). If you look at the MET collection in NYC, the major items in the tourist guide have changed quite a bit since the 1980s, but even before that they kept expanding and changing galleries around. Though I am happy with your work on the Leuchtenberg Gallery, I would really like to see articles for the catalogues for that gallery created and the group of paintings specified that ended up in different family collections vs what was sold. As major tourist attractions I think it is important to specify the bigger changes (and for European museums, I think the time period 1945-1965 after WWII is especially notable for reasons of looted art). Just saying that a specific year is non-notable for a given museum as a reason for deleting the only list there is seems unnecessarily destructive. This list is just as notable for the year of 1956 as the list of items on show in the Rijksmuseum today would be for any year after Wikipedia's birth in 2001 for example. Wikipedia is full of such lists (much shorter though) based on articles of works by artists that have been lifted from the 1911 Britannica articles for those artists. There is nothing wrong with that and the historical record is important for all of the same reasons. The tricky part comes when you try to reverse-engineer such lists from articles that have morphed from their humble 1911 beginnings. Jane (talk) 08:11, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
But this is not about what you (or I) find important or would like to see, it is about subjects that are notable according to Wikipedia guidelines? "This list is just as notable for the year of 1956 as the list of items on show in the Rijksmuseum today would be for any year after Wikipedia's birth in 2001 for example. " Completely correct, but for the fact that we don't have any lists of "works on show in 2005" or 2016 or whatever year for any other museum. "Wikipedia is full of such lists": examples? I don't know of any other article showing the museum collection in one specific year (or even a small range of years) for any museum. It relly is simple: "museum collection" is notable, "museum collection on display in year X" is not notable (there may be exceptions, e.g. if the collection on display in 1945 hsa been destroyed, but then there is a reason why that year-collection combination is notable). Fram (talk) 08:30, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Well I disagree with that. The whole movie Woman in Gold (film) is about one painting that hung in a museum for 50 years with a credit line that has since been proven to be a lie. I think that type of event makes all editions of that museum's catalog-on-show notable. I think each object that a top museum chooses to place on show for whatever reason (and for large museums like the Rijksmuseum was in 1956 they already had separate curators for various parts of the collection) is worth an article. Of course the destruction and looting of an entire museum is notable (such as the Neues Museum) but I was thinking more of the individual cases, and having the record is important, so I would argue that "museum collection on display in year X" *is* notable. Of course it would be overkill to have an article for each specific year in a particular decade, but articles such as this one for a specific catalog edition are notable. Please note this list still just reflects a portion of the museum's paintings in 1956, so this is not an inventory of the collection, which your comment seems to indicate. My comment about the paintings in biographies of artists has to do with the selection made by the Britannica author for that specific biography. Those are also "lists" though they may be embedded in text, and some are correct, but many are not. Jane (talk) 10:46, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
I really can't follow your arguments here, you seem to make huge logical leaps to make "X is notable therefor Y is notable" claims. The parts I do understand are not convincing though. I'll remove the prod (since you clearly object to the deletion) and bring it to AfD instead, where we can get wider input. Fram (talk) 11:14, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Nomination of Catalog of the paintings on show at the Rijksmuseum in 1956 for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Catalog of the paintings on show at the Rijksmuseum in 1956 is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Catalog of the paintings on show at the Rijksmuseum in 1956 until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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July 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

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Hello, and van Gogh[edit]

Hello. I came across your user page of van Gogh's paintings, and in comparing the 'official' Wikipedia list see that the visible space listing is missing many of the images and descriptions you've gathered. Nice work, and I'll leave a note on the official list talk page as well. Is it possible (likely?) your list is more complete than the visible space list? Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:27, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment, but I must admit all I did was set up the listeria list to auto update. If you look at the individual files, these are the work of various people who have contributed to Commons, and the fact they show up so neatly in my list is mostly thanks to User:Multichill who just got a Van Gogh catalog and started puzzling out all of the series and titles (e.g. creating items for existing images). A very big job indeed, but the kudos go to him and several other people and though I have a Van Gogh print on my wall, I am embarrassed to say that I haven't contributed to this effort at all. You are quite right that the Wikidata list is now much better than the current version on English Wikipedia. From what I understand though, the complete work is massive and maybe we don't want the entire list in one article? It's up to you I suppose. Jane (talk) 15:09, 7 July 2017 (UTC)
By you setting up your list (and user Spinster has a list as well, which seems to include items your list is missing, although I only checked one drawing, linked at the Wikipedia talk page) you will hopefully inspire others to update and enlarge Wikipedia's visible list. The kind of cross-over project which should expand and educate the public and other editors to the many facets of Wikimedia. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:37, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 2 – 13 July 2017[edit]

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Editorial: Core models and topics[edit]

Wikimedians interest themselves in everything under the sun — and then some. Discussion on "core topics" may, oddly, be a fringe activity, and was popular here a decade ago.

The situation on Wikidata today does resemble the halcyon days of 2006 of the English Wikipedia. The growth is there, and the reliability and stylistic issues are not yet pressing in on the project. Its Berlin conference at the end of October will have five years of achievement to celebrate. Think Wikimania Frankfurt 2005.

Progress must be made, however, on referencing "core facts". This has two parts: replacing "imported from Wikipedia" in referencing by external authorities; and picking out statements, such as dates and family relationships, that must not only be reliable but be seen to be reliable.

In addition, there are many properties on Wikidata lacking a clear data model. An emerging consensus may push to the front key sourcing and biomedical properties as requiring urgent attention. Wikidata's "manual of style" is currently distributed over thousands of discussions. To make it coalesce, work on such a core is needed.

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The Signpost: 15 July 2017[edit]

Thank you and post-event survey for Met Open Access Artworks Challenge![edit]

I award you with this barnstar of William the Faience Hippopotamus in recognition of your good work at the Met Open Access Artworks Challenge!

We'd like to invite your participation in the post-event survey for the Met Open Access Artworks Challenge.--Pharos (talk) 20:25, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! I will participate in the survey. Jane (talk) 08:11, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Structured Data on Commons Newsletter, July 19, 2017[edit]

Welcome to the newsletter for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons! You can update your subscription to the newsletter. Do inform others who you think will want to be involved in the project!

Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons?[edit]

The millions of files on Wikimedia Commons are described with a lot of information or (meta)data. With the project Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons, this data is structured more, and is made machine-readable. This will make it easier to view, search (also multilingually), edit, organize and re-use the files on Commons.

In early 2017, the Sloan Foundation funded this project (see documentation). Development takes place in 2017–2020. It involves staff from the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Deutschland (WMDE) and many volunteers. To achieve this, Wikibase support is added to Wikimedia Commons. Wikibase is the technology that is also used for Wikidata.

Recent developments: groundwork[edit]

  • A new and crucial technical step (federation) now makes it possible to reference data from one Wikibase website in another. Because of this, it will be possible to use Wikidata's items and properties to describe media files on Commons.
  • Another important piece of groundwork is under development: so-called Multi-Content Revisions. This feature allows structured data to be stored alongside wiki text, so that one wiki page can contain several types of content.

Team updates[edit]

  • Amanda Bittaker was hired as Program Manager for Structured Data on Wikimedia Commons. Amanda will take care of the overall management of the project.
  • Sandra Fauconnier (known as Spinster in her volunteer capacity) is the new Community Liaison. She will support the collaboration between the communities (Commons, Wikidata, GLAM) and the product development teams at the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikimedia Deutschland.
  • We have open positions for a UX designer and a Product Manager!

Talking with communities and allies[edit]

  • Long-term feedback from GLAMs. Besides the Wikimedia community, many external cultural and knowledge institutions (GLAMs - Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums) are interested in Structured Data on Commons and are willing to provide feedback on the long-term plans for the project. Alex Stinson, GLAM strategist at the Wikimedia Foundation, is currently in contact with Europeana, DPLA, the Smithsonian and the National Archives of the United States. Alex is also looking for other GLAM institutions who might be able to advise on the long term. If you know of an institution or partner that may be appropriate for consultation, do get in touch with Alex.
  • Jonathan Morgan, design researcher, is starting to work on two projects:

What comes next?[edit]

  • The Structured Data on Commons team meets in the week after Wikimania to lay the groundwork for the next steps. This includes new backend development and design work, for better and more clear integration of the structured data in pages on Wikimedia Commons.
  • The project's information pages on Wikimedia Commons will receive a long overdue update in the upcoming months. The team will also work on more and better communication channels. Feedback, wishes and tips are welcome at the project's general talk page.

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Many greetings from SandraF (WMF) (talk), Community Liaison for this project! 13:55, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

New women's biographies on Wikidata[edit]

Hi Jane. As you seem to be one of the main Wikipedia editors who also contribute to Wikidata, I was wondering whether you can do anything about the increasing number of new women's biographies which are either not covered at all on Wikidata or which only have minimum coverage. Today I have just created or enhanced the Wikidata info on 13 of the 38 biographies which have appeared this month on DYK. I was surprised to see that even when details were contained in an infobox on Wikipedia, they were not picked up by the bots which normally feed Wikidata. If this is the case for articles which have appeared on Wikipedia's main page, I imagine the situation is even worse for all the other newly created women's biographies. Is there any means of improving this situation or will we just have to rely on human coding in the weeks and months ahead? Perhaps some method could be developed for identifying biographies of women which need more attention on Wikidata, especially those which have been created some time ago. We could then bring them to the attention of those of our editors who can cope with Wikidata.--Ipigott (talk) 13:07, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes unfortunately this problem is as old as Wikidata, and the problem is true for every language-pedia, not just English, so the backlog gets bigger by the day. The problem is not restricted to women's biographies and is much worse for concepts that are not either a biography or a place. We have been trying to figure out ways to deal with this, since the lack of data is also causing huge number of doubles and triples to be created in Wikidata (except when people use the translation tool, which correctly links the new article to the proper Wikidata item). For paintings we have someone running a set of bots on Wikidata to pick up "possible paintings", and I suppose we need to run a similar set of bots to pick up "possible women biographies". As far as the backlog on English Wikipedia, there is no way to fix this besides trying to educate people creating pages to take responsibility for their associated Wikidata items. The current backlog is quite long. I think I wrote about this last year, where the longest lag I measured was about 18 months between creation of the article and creation of the Wikidata item. Unfortunately many page creations on Wikipedia overlap existing items on Wikidata now, so it's quite a mess to merge duplicates after bots create items with just the sitelink. I don't run any bots myself but I do know that infoboxes are pretty useless as inut to bots (the other way works much better - creating infoboxes from Wikidata). Jane (talk) 15:02, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps the answer to all this is to improve the interfaces between Wikipedia and Wikidata, initially for those who are already familiar with Wikidata but ultimately for all article creators. For my own part, I have found the WE-Framework gadget extremely useful. Maybe it would be possible to integrate it into the Wikipedia environment for all users. It is really disheartening to hear that the backlog is increasing at a time when Wikidata appears to be gaining importance. It would be interesting to hear whether your Wikidata colleagues have any other suggestions.--Ipigott (talk) 07:53, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
Well there is one added dimension to women's biographies that we really need to think about. There are bots that link articles to Wikidata items based on spelling, and this works most often for places and male names, but with women, it could be the married name, the maiden name, or the combi-name. It would be so good if page creators could add all the possible spellings to the alias field of the Wikidata item, as this will increase findability and thus reduce future merges. Jane (talk) 10:21, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

Women in Red's new initiative: 1day1woman[edit]

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August 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

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A new WiR initiative starting in August[edit]

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Recent biographies on Dutch wikipedia[edit]

Jane, I have looked at that page you recently made that shows the most recent articles on women on nl:wiki. Ik do get the idea it is not fully working as intended. Recently I noticed some new articles (like nl:Maimie McCoy, nl:Marianne van der Torre) are not showing on the list. I am unsure why this happens but could it have something to do with the fact that all these articles already have articles on other language wikipedias? Does your list only show new articles that *only* have an article on Dutch wikipedia? Or rather - since those articles already have a low Q-number on wikidata - they probably appear low(er) on the list, maybe even outside the cut off of 1.000 articles. Maybe it is possible to slightly alter the query (I have no idea) that it would take into account the actual date the nl:wiki was added to the item on wikidata. Because now - I think- we seem to miss a lot of recently created biographies on women. Ecritures (talk) 13:02, 29 July 2017 (UTC) This is by descending Q number, so of course if the item already existed it would have an older Q number. The Q number is only on Wikidata, and the Wikipedia article is linked to it by sitelink only. So this does not show all recent articles on Dutch Wikipedia, but only those recent articles that were given a new Q number + sitelink, along with at least two statements: human + female. Jane (talk) 14:30, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Judith Leyster painting[edit]

Hello, could you take a look at the A Game of Tric-Trac-article? It is now changed into a redirect, but I believe it is worth a article. Best regards,Jeff5102 (talk) 08:57, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Hmm that is an interesting painting, for many reasons. I think I agree with the redirect for now. I will try to republish it though as a basic painting article for you so it at least remains findable while I try to untangle some of the more dubious statements in that text. Jane (talk) 13:07, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 5 August 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 3 – 11 August 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 3 – 11 August 2017
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Wikimania report[edit]

Interviewed by Facto Post at the hackathon, Lydia Pintscher of Wikidata said that the most significant recent development is that Wikidata now accounts for one third of Wikimedia edits. And the essential growth of human editing.

Internet-In-A-Box

Impressive development work on Internet-in-a-Box featured in the WikiMedFoundation annual conference on Thursday. Hardware is Raspberry Pi, running Linux and the Kiwix browser. It can operate as a wifi hotspot and support a local intranet in parts of the world lacking phone signal. The medical use case is for those delivering care, who have smartphones but have to function in clinics in just such areas with few reference resources. Wikipedia medical content can be served to their phones, and power supplied by standard lithium battery packages.

Yesterday Katherine Maher unveiled the draft Wikimedia 2030 strategy, featuring a picturesque metaphor, "roads, bridges and villages". Here "bridges" could do with illustration. Perhaps it stands for engineering round or over the obstacles to progress down the obvious highways. Internet-in-a-Box would then do fine as an example.

"Bridging the gap" explains a take on that same metaphor, with its human component. If you are at Wikimania, come talk to WikiFactMine at its stall in the Community Village, just by the 3D-printed display for Bassel Khartabil; come hear T Arrow talk at 3 pm today in Drummond West, Level 3.

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  • Plaudit for the Medical Wikipedia app, content that is loaded into Internet-In-A-Box with other material, such as per-country documentation.
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Great egret[edit]

Sorry I had to remove the image you posted on this page but it wasn't the correct species, it was a snowy egret, maybe place the image in that article's gallery. Quetzal1964 (talk) 19:55, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Ha! I just posted about this on your talk page. If you could take a look here and check the egrets I linked under the "depicts" property, that would be great too: d:Q37171442. Jane (talk) 19:59, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

September 2017 at Women in Red[edit]

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The Signpost: 6 September 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 4 – 18 September 2017
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Editorial: Conservation data[edit]

The IUCN Red List update of 14 September led with a threat to North American ash trees. The International Union for Conservation of Nature produces authoritative species listings that are peer-reviewed. Examples used as metonyms for loss of species and biodiversity, and discussion of extinction rates, are the usual topics covered in the media to inform us about this area. But actual data matters.

Dorstenia elata, a critically endangered South American herb, contained in Moraceae, the family of figs and mulberries

Clearly, conservation work depends on decisions about what should be done, and where. While animals, particularly mammals, are photogenic, species numbers run into millions. Plant species lie at the base of typical land-based food chains, and vegetation is key to the habitats of most animals.

ContentMine dictionaries, for example as tabulated at d:Wikidata:WikiFactMine/Dictionary list, enable detailed control of queries about endangered species, in their taxonomic context. To target conservation measures properly, species listings running into the thousands are not what is needed: range maps showing current distribution are. Between the will to act, and effective steps taken, the services of data handling are required. There is now no reason at all why Wikidata should not take up the burden.

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The Signpost: 25 September 2017[edit]

Women in Red October editathon invitation[edit]

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Starting the Met Weekly Challenge: The Horse Fair + help pick future collaborations[edit]

Rosa Bonheur's The Horse Fair has been chosen as the first-ever Met Weekly Challenge, starting today, for the coming week. There are a lot of resources at the artwork's Met Collection record (see 'Catalogue Entry'), and also lists of other references. We could also benefit from the French Wikipedia version and Commons:Category:The Horse Fair — see the section for Week 1: The Horse Fair (Sept 25 - Oct 1) for more on how to participate, or just get started editing!

I also very much encourage folks to share and vote for your ideas on future collaborations!--Pharos (talk) 18:23, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Joan Michaël Fleischman[edit]

Just wanted to say thanks for writing this! I tend to look after a lot of the font articles on Wikipedia and I've recently been going through it adding more information and sources , including a link to a specimen of his work digitised by Google Books. Just thought I'd let you know in case you had anything you wanted to change or improve. Blythwood (talk) 16:14, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! The Enchedé fonts and the artists they hired to make them are terribly under-covered in the sources generally, so thanks for anything you can add. The story of fonts is a fascinating one and is really the backbone of the book industry for centuries. Strange that so few readers care about the origins of fonts, when it is such an important aspect of the reading experience. The Enschedé printing company is best known today for its printed banknotes and so forth, but also has a rich history of developing fonts for all sorts of languages that previously had no fonts at all. Jane (talk) 19:33, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

This Month in Education: September 2017[edit]

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This Month in Education

Volume 6 | Issue 8 | September 2017

This monthly newsletter showcases the Wikipedia Education Program. It focuses on sharing: your ideas, stories, success and challenges. You can see past editions here. You can also volunteer to help publish the newsletter. Join the team! Finally, don't forget to subscribe!

In This Issue

Featured Topic "Wikipedia – Here and Now": 40 students in the Summer School "I Can – Here and Now" in Bulgaria heard more about Wikipedia

From the Community

Klexikon: the German 'childrens' Wikipedia' in Montréal

Wikipedia is now a part of Textbook in Informatics

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Met Weekly Challenge, Week 2: The Princesse de Broglie (Oct 1 - Oct 8): + help pick future collaborations[edit]

Ingres' The Princesse de Broglie has been chosen as the Week 2 focus of the Met Weekly Challenge. There are a lot of resources at the artwork's Met Collection record (see 'Catalogue Entry'), and also lists of other references. See the section for Week 2: The Princesse de Broglie (Oct 1 - Oct 8) for more on how to participate, or just get started editing!

I also very much encourage folks to share and vote for your ideas on future collaborations!--Pharos (talk) 20:07, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Met Weekly Challenge, Week 3: Portrait of Juan de Pareja (Oct 9 - Oct 15): + help pick future collaborations[edit]

Velázquez's Portrait of Juan de Pareja has been chosen as the Metropolitan Museum of Art Weekly Challenge for the coming week. There are a lot of resources at the artwork's Met Collection record (see 'Catalogue Entry'), and also lists of other references. See the section for Week 3: Portrait of Juan de Pareja (Oct 9 - Oct 15) for more on how to participate, or just get started editing!

Simultaneously, we are also encouraging collaboration on the biographical article for Juan de Pareja, the artist depicted.

I also very much encourage folks to share and vote for your ideas on future collaborations!--Pharos (talk) 20:37, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 5 – 17 October 2017
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Editorial: Annotations[edit]

Annotation is nothing new. The glossators of medieval Europe annotated between the lines, or in the margins of legal manuscripts of texts going back to Roman times, and created a new discipline. In the form of web annotation, the idea is back, with texts being marked up inline, or with a stand-off system. Where could it lead?

1495 print version of the Digesta of Justinian, with the annotations of the glossator Accursius from the 13th century

ContentMine operates in the field of text and data mining (TDM), where annotation, simply put, can add value to mined text. It now sees annotation as a possible advance in semi-automation, the use of human judgement assisted by bot editing, which now plays a large part in Wikidata tools. While a human judgement call of yes/no, on the addition of a statement to Wikidata, is usually taken as decisive, it need not be. The human assent may be passed into an annotation system, and stored: this idea is standard on Wikisource, for example, where text is considered "validated" only when two different accounts have stated that the proof-reading is correct. A typical application would be to require more than one person to agree that what is said in the reference translates correctly into the formal Wikidata statement. Rejections are also potentially useful to record, for machine learning.

As a contribution to data integrity on Wikidata, annotation has much to offer. Some "hard cases" on importing data are much more difficult than average. There are for example biographical puzzles: whether person A in one context is really identical with person B, of the same name, in another context. In science, clinical medicine require special attention to sourcing (WP:MEDRS), and is challenging in terms of connecting findings with the methodology employed. Currently decisions in areas such as these, on Wikipedia and Wikidata, are often made ad hoc. In particular there may be no audit trail for those who want to check what is decided.

Annotations are subject to a World Wide Web Consortium standard, and behind the terminology constitute a simple JSON data structure. What WikiFactMine proposes to do with them is to implement the MEDRS guideline, as a formal algorithm, on bibliographical and methodological data. The structure will integrate with those inputs the human decisions on the interpretation of scientific papers that underlie claims on Wikidata. What is added to Wikidata will therefore be supported by a transparent and rigorous system that documents decisions.

An example of the possible future scope of annotation, for medical content, is in the first link below. That sort of detailed abstract of a publication can be a target for TDM, adds great value, and could be presented in machine-readable form. You are invited to discuss the detailed proposal on Wikidata, via its talk page.

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November editathons from Women in Red: Join us![edit]

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Welcome to Women in Red's November 2017 worldwide online editathons.
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New: The Women in Red World Contest

Continuing: #1day1woman Global Initiative

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