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Song for Another Time[edit]

I've told you this many times before: LABELS DO NOT NEED CITATIONS IN SONG AND ALBUM ARTICLES. Also, if the album page indicates the producer and songwriters, then those generally do not need a citation in the song article as well (except in cases like Ripcord (album) where nearly every track has a different producer). Shane McAnally was the sole producer of Meat and Candy, so none of the song articles needs a separate citation identifying him as such. 05:00, 6 July 2016 (UTC)

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Bradley C. Kochmit[edit]

I noticed added a {{db-g6}} to Bradley Kochmit. Why would you move the page a few times if you want it at yet another different title? It seems like it was fine before at B. C. Kochmit. -- Tavix (talk) 23:59, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Reply - @Tavix:, the default for biography article titles is "Firstname Lastname", and moving eventually creates redirects to the correct article. --Jax 0677 (talk) 09:46, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
  • That's not true at all. The default for article titles is their WP:COMMONNAME. Moving the article a bunch of times creates issues that I described above, so please use #REDIRECT in the future. Thanks, -- Tavix (talk) 14:17, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Greatest Hits deletion[edit]

Is there some Wikipedia code saying that a Greatest Hits collection must have a Wiki page in order to be included in the band's template? If this is so, then fair enough; maybe one should just be created. Otherwise, why do you delete The Fixx Greatest Hits and ignore the talk page about the matter? MXVN (talk) 01:13, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Reply - @MXVN:, a navigation box is for existing articles, with the exception of a musical ensemble with multiple members, as omitting people can give the impression of the group being a solo act. --Jax 0677 (talk) 09:46, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Long article listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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Room to Breathe (Chase Bryant song)[edit]

Please do not create articles on new songs until they've at least charted. There's too little info on them until they've charted and had time to be reviewed or discussed. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 00:17, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Template:Jennifer Nettles[edit]

If there has been a consensus to merge a template, please do not revert it without discussion. Do this again and I'll take it to ANI. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 17:58, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

  • It wasn't deleted, it was redirected. General rule is that you shouldn't immediately undo a redirect if consensus was reached to maintain the redirect. Instigating discussion for the split, like you've done by putting the "split" template on the Sugarland template, is a good idea. Ten Pound Hammer(What did I screw up now?) 18:21, 21 July 2016 (UTC)
  • Reply - @TenPoundHammer:, it has been more than one year since the redirect was put in place. Per WP:G4, "It excludes pages that are not substantially identical to the deleted version, [nor] pages to which the reason for the deletion no longer applies". You are the one who nominated the template for discussion, and I am the only one who agreed to merge it, based on her discography at the time. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:27, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Nomination of Solid Gold (Nikki Yanofsky album) for deletion[edit]

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Showtek discography[edit]

Why on Earth are you warning me about WP:3RR? I reverted you once, but your one warning before it's even happened wouldn't stop anybody, dude. You overtag every article, and nobody likes it. I have seen multiple editors write edit summaries directed at your overtagging while reverting/removing them. Also, you never insert dates for your templates, a bot has to do it for you. You also insert them on the same lines as existing templates at the top of the article. IF you're going to be a stickler for sources, please do it properly and fill them out. Stop overtagging articles, it is unnecessary and annoys everybody. You created Showtek discography and now you want to whinge about how nothing on it is cited. Do it yourself maybe? Ss112 10:29, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

  • Reply - @Ss112:, you reverted me twice, not once. There are over 20 million users on Wikipedia, so the statement "nobody likes it" is likely an exaggeration. I now slightly agree, that if a properly referenced music album with one producer has a single with an article, that the label and/or name of producer may not need a reference. WRT dates, "Laziness is the exact purpose of redirects, to be perfectly honest, and the creator of a useful redirect that saves one or two characters should be commended". Putting a template on the same line as other templates is not a big deal. I did not create Showtek discography, I merely split off existing text as it took up a large percentage of the Showtek article. After tagging Garrix discography, a multitude of proper references appeared in the article. --Jax 0677 (talk) 15:49, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
I don't really consider the first manual removal of them a reversion; it likely counts under 3RR, but editors who raise 3RR when they're probably willing to go over that limit themselves to keep their own content in an article doesn't really give them a high ground. Besides, I don't care enough to fight with you over it. My end point was somebody else will probably remove most of them/all anyway, and I have seen enough evidence to know even somewhat generally that it annoys a significant amount of people; exaggeration maybe, but the point stays the same. I never said anything about redirects, I just think since they're usually later spelt out anyway, it's best to do it in the first place, along with adding a date, as it doesn't take a lot of time or extra effort. Ss112 15:56, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

>Hello, there![edit]

Hi, Jax0677, I appreciate your work on the page Don Diablo discography. In what felt like eons ago, long before I became a WikiPedian, I tried to find the vocalist behind the song "Generations," by Don Diablo; and until tonight, I have never known who that mysterious vocalist was. You obviously knew who that vocalist was, and you subsequently added that vocalist information on the track, "Generations," which is listed in the singles table on the aforementioned page, Don Diablo discography. I don't know how you found out who sang on "Generations" by Don Diablo, but I just had to thank you for adding that info to Diablo's discogs page. Having all that be said, I was wondering if maybe you could find out the name of the artist that provides vocals for the song, "Daylight" by Mike Mago & KC Lights. It would mean the world to me if you could, but if not, that's fine. Nevertheless, I must warn you though: the words highlighted in pink, are linked, and once pressed, will redirect you to other wiki pages. Thank you, and have a good night. ;). P.s., please reply soon. Thanks again.


Sincerely,

>Infopage100.


Infopage100 (talk) 02:30, 25 July 2016 (UTC)Infopage100Infopage100 (talk) 02:30, 25 July 2016 (UTC)


  • Reply back - @Jax 0677:, Well, that my friend, is a truly heartbreaking fact. You would usually hear me approach displeasing news similar to that like this though: "that is real sucky. That really sucks." Anyways, good work on the page though.

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Sincerely,

 >Infopage100.

Infopage100 (talk) 09:27, 26 July 2016 (UTC)Infopage100Infopage100 (talk) 09:27, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

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Adding business name to multi leve marking list.[edit]

Hello! I noticed you don't have a pyramid scheme/multi level marketing name that should be on here. It's called MCA or Motor Club of America aka Motor Club America. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Forbalimuth (talkcontribs) 17:59, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Overtagging[edit]

Stop overtagging articles. This has got to stop. The whole article of G-Eazy discography is tagged as needing additional references. You are artificially widening columns, and this is not correct to do on discographies. It is generally always removed. Overtagging articles needs to stop, because it is not done elsewhere on Wikipedia, only articles you stumble upon and decide to inflict it on. You can find sources yourself to help, but you refuse to do it; all you do is tag them. I will take this further if you persist, and I'm pretty sure other editors will tell you you overtag and it is unnecessary to do. Ss112 09:49, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Reply - @Ss112:, the columns that are widened by {{cn}} should not be placed unreferenced on Wikipedia in the first place. It is not my job to find references for items that I do not place on Wikipedia. The last big article that I wrote was Myka Relocate, and I have appropriately cited just about everything that I put in there. --Jax 0677 (talk) 13:52, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Nobody said it was your job. Nobody really has "jobs" to do on Wikipedia. It's called helping out; instead of pointing out a problem, you can help rectify it. I don't know why you waited something like a year to start overtagging the G-Eazy discography article when you split it off from G-Eazy anyway. Whatever. You don't see citation needed templates widening columns in articles because other, experienced editors know it's not appropriate to put them in columns in the first place. It's also overkill to tag every section, and I'm pretty sure most people, if asked, will tell you this. So I don't know why you continue doing it; you asked "why was urs created then?" Well, it certainly wasn't created to tag every section on an article to death. One template at the top pointing out problems the article has overall is sufficient. People don't need to be specifically pointed to problems. Those who will help know where the issues are if you tag the article header. Ss112 14:00, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Reply - WP:OUTDATED states, "If you do not wish to make the effort to do that yourself but you know it needs to be done, you can also place {{update}} on the top of the page or section" (I think the same applies to {{cn}} and {{urs}}). Putting {{cn}} and {{urs}} in articles has indeed inspired editors to add references (case in point, Garrix discography). If I need to omit the {{+r}} tag at the top, I will do my best to remember to do so in the future. If I don't use {{cn}} and {{urs}} in specific parts of the page, I believe that it will be harder for users to find the material that should and does not have references, especially on a long article. If I should not place {{cn}} and {{urs}} in the articles, this begs the question why these two templates exist at all. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:08, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
You are just going around in circles and sticking to the same arguments; people who will reference are not going to do so because you shove tags in every single section; they know already by looking. That should be pretty obvious. Those templates were not made to overuse; most things in the world should be used in moderation, including these templates. No article is honestly that long people will not be able to find a section that is unreferenced. You act like you're helping people to find unreferenced material, but honestly from the amount of times I've seen your templates removed by people who are clearly annoyed by your overtagging, it's not helping, but hindering. You should be pointing out problems at the top of an article instead of thinking large tags in every small section a mere scroll of the mouse apart is something anybody wants to see. As I have said, I will seek definitive comments some time soon on this, and if consensus is reached about how much is too much tagging, I hope you will follow it. I'm pretty sure from a cursory glance around Wikipedia and even on under-referenced articles there not being tags flooding every section, you already have your answer but clearly you will not listen. It should honestly be common sense. Ss112 14:50, 26 July 2016 (UTC)