User talk:Jcw69/Archive 2006

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Temp Ban[edit]

Please do not the IP address of (this I.P. address is liked to a school district and not just one computer). Please don't block because I have tried to add to a article but there was a temp ban on this IP which means all of our school district (Oxford Area Community Schools in Oxford, Michigan is blocked and I didn't even do anything

Africa award[edit]

I feel really silly about this, but I only noticed the award now, nearly three weeks after you gave it to me. So I would like to both apologise for being so unobservant, and of course I want to thank you, as I really appreciate it. I must say, I was disappointed when your Upholders of the Wiki award was turned down, but you've certainly done an excellent job in replacing it, and the award now looks absolutely fantastic. Thanks again, and Happy New Year! — Impi 09:27, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

two songs three articles[edit]

I think when you reverted a move of Human Nature (song) to Human Nature (Michael Jackson song), it left the article in both places. Now there is an article for Human Nature (Madonna song). I'm not familiar with any of them, but I was sorting through song stubs and didn't know what to do and which song take precedence. I was wondering if you would take a look, and make one possibly a redirect or disambig. Thanks. Smmurphy(Talk) 22:40, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Africa Award - Thanks[edit]


Firstly, a (belated) Happy New Year to you!

Secondly, I would also like to apologize for this belated thanks for the Africa Award that you gave me, but I have an even better excuse than Impi ... I was off getting married.

Kindest Regards, Elf-friend 13:28, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

You would have been welcome to gate crash the wedding! Anyway, thanks very much for your good wishes! :-)
Kindest Regards, Elf-friend 07:46, 23 January 2006 (UTC)


For sorting the orbat on the BDF AW page. You don't fancy doing the same on the BDF page I made, do you? :) If you don't I promise I will... Guinnog 18:22, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Thanks a million! Guinnog 19:21, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Help on image copyright and African issues[edit]

Thanks again for tidying up the data on the two Botswana military sites. I noticed you have an offer to help new users open. I've only been posting for a couple of weeks. There are various things I'm unsure about; obviously I've tried looking through the wiki policies but am not really any clearer.

  • Image copyright; what about grey area images like the pic I uploaded to illustrate the badly-needed stub on the Makgadikgadi Pans? It was downloaded from the Botswana Govt website, which has no copyright info of any kind on it. Emails to the two addresses provided on the site bounced. I assumed that in the real world they could not possibly mind the use of this tiny image. Was I wrong? More importantly, is this good practice on Wikipedia?
  • I remember from the time I spent in Botswana, SA and Zim that (more or less) standard UK spellings are used. Does it follow from this that articles on Southern African issues should always be written in this spelling? I corrected the former redlink entry Botswana Defense Force to the proper spelling when I made the link, and that's obviously OK. But what about in the text of articles?
  • Racial/racialist terms; I remember being very impressed when I saw the way wiki dealt with nigger and kike. Is it ok to have a Bantu entry which reads almost like a 19th century race-based view of the world? There are other examples, and on the one hand I don't want to be too prissy or PC about it, but on the other I know that Wiki aims to fight sytemic bias, and Africa is certainly under-represented in both quantity and quality of articles.

There are other areas I could do with guidance in, but I'm sure that is more than enough.

Finally, is there anything I can do to help you in return?Guinnog 18:38, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks very much. I'll try to re-source the image that is dodgy; I'm sure I know folk who were there and took good photos.

You didn't answer my last question though!Guinnog 22:55, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

No, sorry, I meant is there anything I can do to help you? Guinnog 07:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

An Esperanzial note[edit]

As I remember, the last spam that was handed out was on the 20th of December last year, so I think it's time for another update. First and foremost, the new Advisory Council and Administrator General have been elected. They consist of myself as Admin General and FireFox, Titoxd, Flcelloguy and Karmafist as the Advisory Council. We as a group met formally for the first time on the 31st of Decembe. The minutes of this meeting can be found at WP:ESP/ACM. The next one is planned for tonight (Sunday 29 January) at 20:30 UTC and the agenda can be found at WP:ESP/ACM2.

In other news, Karmafist has set up a discussion about a new personal attack policy, which it can be found here. Other new pages include an introductory page on what to do when you sign up, So you've joined Esperanza... and a welcome template: {{EA-welcome}} (courtesy of Bratsche). Some of our old hands may like to make sure they do everything on the list as well ;) Additionally, the userpage award program proposal has become official is operational: see Wikipedia:Esperanza/User Page Award to nominate a userpage or volunteer as a judge. Also see the proposed programs page for many new proposals and old ones that need more discussion ;)

Other than that, I hope you all had a lovely Christmas and wish you an Esperanzially good new WikiYear :D Thank you! --Celestianpower háblame 16:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
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A request[edit]

Hi there. Recently a user called OrangeMan has brought about the following change in the opening paragraph of the Nelson Mandela page: whereas the previous version stated that NM was the first democratically-elected SA president, the change he supports says that NM was the first SA president elected in 'fully representative' elections. Okay, doesn't sound like a big deal, but his reasons for it have sparked a real dogfight on the Nelson Mandela talk page. You see, he claims that apartheid-era South Africa qualifies as a democracy because there was some semblance of elections. My view is that referring to apartheid-era SA as democratic in any way is offensive - he says this is POV, and that his take is NPOV. I am still convinced that the majority of South Africans, and of reasonable observers the world over, would agree with me. However, my real question is: must we tolerate such a viewpoint in the interests of a NPOV? Who decides what is POV and what is NPOV? He has claims the NPOV for himself - I and user:Ezeu deny this. What is your view? Would sincerely appreciate some feedback. Swissjames 21:03, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Another Esperanzial note...[edit]

Hi again Esperanzians! Well, since our last frolic in the realms of news, the Advisory Council has met twice more (see WP:ESP/ACM2 and WP:ESP/ACM3). As a result, the charter has been ammended twice (see here for details) and all of the shortcuts have been standardised (see the summary for more details). Also of note is the Valentines ball that will take place in the Esperanza IRC channel on the 14th of February (tomorrow). It will start at 6pm UTC and go on until everyone's had enough! I hope to see you all there! Also, the spamlist has been dissolved - all Esperanzians will now recieve this update "newsletter".

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Yours, as ever, Esperanzially,
--Celestianpower háblame 09:00, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
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edit count[edit]

Hey Jerome; I was just wondering how you determined your 1000th, 2000th, etc. edits? Were you just watching your edit counts, or is there a trick to it? I'm about to hit my 2000th (yes yes, still a long way...) dewet| 17:40, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I thought as much. I'm watching the editcount tools, but just thought there'd be an easier way. Also, I luckily have access to my own colo machine, through which I usually proxy when they start autoblocking the SAIX proxies, but it is certainly a PITA. dewet| 18:12, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Timeline of Zim[edit]

Will do what I can :-) JackyR 19:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #1[edit]

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Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, KnowledgeOfSelf and FireFox 17:47, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

Thanks for the congrats! Unfortunately I have also not been as busy on Wiki as I would like this week, also because of work pressure. Anyway, good luck with your new company as well! Kindest Regards, Elf-friend 11:52, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

"what tribe"[edit]

Your query on WIzzy's talk page really made me wonder... Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 11:57, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #2[edit]

The Barnstar Brigade is a new program aimed at giving more very deserving yet unappreciated users barnstars. It will officially start on 2006-04-09, but signing up is encouraged before this date:
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Old Skool Esperanzial note[edit]

Since this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)


There is a consensus discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft#Infobox Aicraft consensus discussion on adopting a non-specifications summary infobox for aircraft articles. Your comments would be appreciated. Thanks! - Emt147 Burninate! 18:35, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks and a query[edit]

Hey, thanks for reverting the Okapi page, I always feel bad when I start to near the third reversion of an article in a short period of time :-)

I was wondering, When people revert a page and get this fancy "reverted edits by <user|talk> to last revision by <user|talk>" is there a special mechanism to do this or is it just a manual copy/paste job?  :-)

Thanks again Stuhacking 12:39, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Howzit from SA Newbie[edit]

Just joined Wikipedia - addictive site! Have added a stub around Cape Argus Cycle Race, being the largest time cycle event in the world. Have also done some work on Midmar Mile, Comrades Marathon and Ironman SA. Will also add 94.7 in time. All need quite a bit of help if you've got some time and are interested.

Also question, under Johannesburg, there are thousands of Suburbs listed as well as every single road subsidiary - is that really necessary? Can't ever imagine them having any detail of any worth at such level of detail...maybe the bigger areas alone like Sandton, Bryanston etc. or major roads like N3? [[1]] Also see Category talk:Suburbs of Johannesburg

Look forward to getting to know you and other SAFA's online

Not sure if you reply here or on my page? PappaG 12:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Please help me out with the question - where does one reply when left a message - on your own page where the reply is left or on the other person's page? I guess preference for me would be to keep all discussion in one place, but then how does other person know that you have replied?
Thanks for the help --PappaG 16:23, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
Hey Jcw69 - voted for your article which was proposed for deletion. --PappaG 17:31, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

South African Timeline[edit]

Voted... it appears to be safe. Chris Lester talk 11:10, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3[edit]

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Celestianpower, JoanneB, Titoxd, Pschemp and Freakofnurture
20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Please vote[edit]

Hi, if you have not yet done so, we could sure use your input on Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Dewet. Thanks! Elf-friend 10:26, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

The Editor's Barnstar[edit]

Editors Barnstar.png The Editor's Barnstar
For all your reverts and edits to many South African issues, I award you this Editor's Barnstar. -- Chris Lester talk 17:40, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for reverting the vandalism to my user page. Bucketsofg 13:27, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Camps Bay[edit]

Apologies for the confusion. However, I will make some points in my defence. User Da:Legend tagged this as a speedy candidate as a copyright infringement. After checking, I noticed that the article was several months old and so was ineligible for speedy deletion. There was nothing on the article flagged by Da Lagend that indicated it was a copy of Wikipedia. Appropriately, I flagged it as a copyvio so that it could be sorted out as it has been. Please remember Wikipedia:Civility when leaving messages on talk pages as your response to me on the talk page for the article was uncivil in my view. Capitalistroadster 16:30, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Dewet Voting[edit]

My assistance lended in voting... An excellent nomination, so got my support.

Africa Award[edit]

  • The Africa Award was moved to the PUA page. Theres is a vetting process that it should go through before it is placed on the other award page. Also, have you seen The Barnstar of National Merit?--evrik 18:46, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
  • Okay so how do I propose the Africa Award to be placed on the other award page as there is nothing on the page or discussion page? The award was selected by the Wikipedia:Africa-related regional notice board as Africa's award so it can not go in Personal user awards --Jcw69 18:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
    • I listed it on the proposal page for you. -evrik 19:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Big thanks to you guys for sorting this out, after I raised and then forgot about it... JackyR | Talk 23:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Africa award[edit]

Hello Jcw69. Sorry to bother you, but I have a question. I'm beginnign to feel a little left out ... you refer to me not being South African - despite having lived there for nine years as a kid - and then leave notes on many users talk page about a new African award, yet not mine, again. Should I feel slighted? Páll (Die pienk olifant) 00:06, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Bush Telegraph[edit]

Hi Jcw,

Thanks for your kind note, I was feeling a bit despondent, as I certainly don't want to breach wiki-etiquette or harm Dewet's admin vote.

I really don't see any harm in informing people with the same interests of events affecting them per se, although I can appreciate that not everybody wants unsolicited messages on their talk pages.

But I probably did overstep the mark by asking some oppose voters to reconsider on their talk pages. This was not a mass spamming though - I approached four users whose concerns (I thought) had been properly addressed by Dewet's answers. One user (who had previously voted support but changed to neutral) changed his vote back to support, while I deleted the message from the other three's talk pages immediately after receiving the objection.

I am certainly willing to do my share in any mailing list, maybe we can borrow some technology from the Wikipedia signpost. I think "The South African Bush Telegraph" is an excellent name for it, by the way.

Kind Regards, Elf-friend 09:45, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Dunno if this is the right place to add it, but thanks for the heads-up on the Africa Award. I've added my vote, hope it succeeds. — Impi 21:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Just a small note to relay my sincere gratitude in operating the telegraph during my RfA; the support from fellow (South) Africans was a great help. dewet| 07:37, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm ... just a thought regarding the Bush Telegraph ... we should probably use Wikipedia:Wikipedians/South Africa and/or the SA wikipedians category as our mailing list, but (to protect us from spamming accusations) ask that they notify us or mark their name in some way if they do not want to receive the "newsletter"? Elf-friend 08:25, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

I like the idea of doing it like the signpost or the esperanza newsletter. We could easily create a page somewhere that can be subst'ed onto the talk pages of those who signed up to the spamlist. Where would we start though? Wikipedia:Wikipedians/South Africa/Bush Telegraph seems a bit unwieldy? Would there be a problem with a once-off "spamming" of those on the list/category to simply notify them of the existence of a spamlist? dewet| 08:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
What about making it a subpage of Wikipedia:WikiProject South_Africa? No, I don't see how anybody could possibly object to a once-off "spamming" of the people we believe would be interested, as we would not be advocating something, only notifying. Regards, Elf-friend 09:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Oooh yes, of course. Completely forgot about that one. Good idea. dewet| 09:52, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Okay, lets use WikiProject South_Africa and the participants listed there as the users interested. We could make a heading in it and call it say The Bush Telegragh. We could then just send participants a reminder that a new post has been made if they don't have it on their watch list --Jcw69 10:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

OK, but there are only a handful people on there (five or so). I suggest approaching everybody on the South Africans list and in the South Africans category with the initial notification of its existence. Regards, Elf-friend 10:59, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
Done and draft info inserted - Wikipedia:WikiProject_South_Africa/Bush_Telegraph. Elf-friend 11:13, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Hey howzit! Sorry I've been on a bit of a hiatus this last month (university exams and such) so I've been missing out on a lot. I just scanned over the Bush Telegraph and I love the idea, once I'm back (a week from now) please count me in. :) Cheers -- Banez 12:27, 27 May 2006 (UTC)


Hi, you have started the article Memel, Free State, giving its meaning in Old Prussian language. What is your source for that? Please have also a look at Talk:Memel (disambiguation) and Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts for a dispute on the name. Thanks! --Matthead 17:07, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

St. Lucia[edit]

In (how do I reference a page without displaying it ?) it implies Swaziland borders the park, which I do not believe it does. Wizzy 15:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

It should not say Swaziland on the map. Wizzy 12:25, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

On Dewet[edit]

Hi JC, nice to hear from you again.

Apologies, but unfortunately I've been away from wikipedia for ages, hence I didn't get your request for opinion until today, so I'm a bit late for poor old Dewet. Why exactly was his RFA rejected?--Xiphon
PS: My sig has stopped working, hence this tacky, deurmekaar link!

nomination of Timeline of South African history for deletion[edit]

I happened to come across this comment you made. I was clearly wrong to nominate the timeline and simply didn't do adequate research to see how Wikipedia deals with timelines, so I apologize for that. I didn't meant to discourage you. Hope there are no hard feelings... Aplomado talk 01:31, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Cape Town FAC[edit]

Well, it's done. I listed Cape Town as a featured article candidate. Take a look on its FAC page and have a vote. Thanks! Páll (Die pienk olifant) 06:14, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Happy Birthday![edit]

Choco chip cookie.jpg Hungry? Here's a little snack for you on your birthday, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee!!! Have a great day, Jcw69/Archive 2006!

Many happy returns of the day!!!

Thistheman 02:52, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Happy birth day to you. --Bhadani 15:11, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Joyful Spirit Journey Formation Anniversary! (translation: Happy Birthday!) --emc! (t a l k) 19:48, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

A short Esperanzial update[edit]

As you may have gathered, discussions have been raging for about a week on the Esperanza talk page as to the future direction of Esperanza. Some of these are still ongoing and warrant more input (such as the idea to scrap the members list altogether). However, some decisions have been made and the charter has hence been amended. See what happened. Basically, the whole leadership has had a reshuffle, so please review the new, improved charter.

As a result, we are electing 4 people this month. They will replace JoanneB and Pschemp and form a new tranche A, serving until December. Elections will begin on 2006-07-02 and last until 2006-07-09. If you wish to run for a Council position, add your name to the list before 2006-07-02. For more details, see Wikipedia:Esperanza/June 2006 elections.

Thanks and kind, Esperanzial regards, —Celestianpower háblame 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)


My name is Avdo. I noticed the milestones template on your page and I think it's a really great idea! I'd like to try to make one for myself, based on your template, but I do not want to "steal" your idea without your permission :). I will put your username on the bottom of the template, something along the lines of "Thanks to Jcw69", just to show how gratefull I am for your permission (if I get it :)). Best regards, --GOD OF JUSTICE 22:18, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

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August Esperanza Newsletter[edit]

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Please add Strand as a place in South Africa on your front page. I happen to live there and it would be nice if my little town appears between all those names there on your page. =D --Scotteh 15:43, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Oh ok... I didn't realise that... Sorry. And why do you welcome me to Wikipedia? Lol. I've been here for quite some time... I just clean up my user page every now and then because I have fights with people and stuff and yeah whatever. You can check my history if you don't believe. Anyways, thanks for informinc me of it all then... --Scotteh 19:01, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

ChristWiki and CKB[edit]

ChristWiki is a ghosttown. Care to join the original fork, Christian Knowledge Base? Arch O. La Grigory Deepdelver 01:30, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Sri Lankan Buffel[edit]

U hav asked about SL Buffel in Sri Lankan Army article right? here is the answer. [2]

Hi there, Its me again as Lahiru_k. :D :D Could u gimme a favor as ex aequo et bono? This is what, as an wiki admin could you pay some attention about Saliya Aladeniya article that create by myself? Someone put AFD tag in that article without any resone. I guess you can help me....

Maraba Coffee[edit]

Hello! As you're a Wikipedian interested in African topics, I'm writing to notify you that the Maraba Coffee article is now a 'Featured Article Candidate'. Please feel free to evaluate the article and write your support or opposition at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates. Thanks — SteveRwanda 15:06, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

September Esperanza Newsletter[edit]

Program Feature: Barnstar Brigade
Here in Wikipedia there are hundreds of wikipedians whose work and efforts go unappreciated. One occasionally comes across editors who have thousands of good edits, but because they may not get around as much as others, their contributions and hard work often go unnoticed. As Esperanzians we can help to make people feel appreciated, be it by some kind words or the awarding of a Barnstar. This is where the Barnstar Brigade comes in. The object of this program is to seek out the people which deserve a Barnstar, and help them feel appreciated. With your help, we can recognize more dedicated editors!
What's New?
September elections are upon us! Anyone wishing to be a part of the Advisory Council may list themselves as a candidate from 18 September until 24 September, with the voting taking place from 25 September to 30 September. Those who wish to help with the election staff should also list themselves!
Appreciation Week, a program currently in development, now has its own subpage! Share your good ideas on how to make it awesome there!
The Esperanza front page has been redesigned! Many thanks to all who worked hard on it.
Many thanks to MiszaBot, courtesy of Misza13, for delivering the newsletter.
  1. The proposals page has been updated, with some proposals being archived.
  2. Since the program in development Appretiaion week is getting lots of good ideas, it now has its own subpage.
  3. The September 2006 Council elections will open for nominations on 18 September 2006. The voting will run from 25 September 2006 until 30 September 2006. If you wish to be a candidate or a member of the elections staff, please list yourself!
  4. The new Esperanza front page design has but put up - many thanks to all who worked on it!
  5. TangoTango has written a script for a bot that will list new members of Esperanza, which will help those who welcome new Esperanzains greatly!
Natalya, Banes, Celestianpower, EWS23, FireFox, Freakofnurture, and Titoxd
04:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
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Your vote please[edit]

Hi Jcw69 - Please vote on the proposed title change of the 'South African farmer murders' page. The straw poll is here. Please also pass this message on to others you think would be interested. Thank you! Cheers, Jason Lionchow - Talk 08:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Butterworth, Eastern Cape[edit]

Thanks for redirecting to Butterworth, Eastern Cape. I should have looked closer. Wizzy 10:46, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism on User:Lahiru k[edit]

Some one came from IP address vandalize my userpage on 06:31, October 18, 2006[3] and 06:32, October 18, 2006[4]. Please instruct me for necessary actions. Thank you. Lahiru_k 16:16, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Ok, Thanks. Lahiru_k 14:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Muchas gracias[edit]


Hey Jcw, thanks a lot for supporting me in my recent RfA. It succeeded, and I am very grateful to all of you. If you ever need help with anything, please don't hesitate to ask. Also, feel free point out any mistakes I make! Thanks again, —Khoikhoi 04:08, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Just for my understanding :-)[edit]

Can anyone blank his own talk page???? And what are the wiki rules and regulations regarding the talk page and user page???  ĽąĦĩŘǔ_Қ♪  (Ŧ) 19:03, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

User:Nirojansakthivel has blanked his talk page and there are also three vandalism warnings there including user page vandalisms plus some complaints regarding licensing[5]. This user seems to be some kind of an offensive user. I hope you will take the necessary actions regarding this user for the betterment of Wikipedia. Thank You.  ĽąĦĩŘǔ_Қ♪  (Ŧ) 10:40, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Thank you.  ĽąĦĩŘǔ_Қ♪  (Ŧ) 16:30, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

November Esperanza Newsletter[edit]

Program Feature: Admin Coaching (needs coaches!)
Admin Coaching needs coaches!!! If you are an administrator, or even a generally experienced user, do consider signing up to be a coach.

Admin Coaching, now being coordinated by HighwayCello, is a program for people who want help learning some of the more subtle aspects of Wikipedia policy and culture. People are matched with experienced users who are willing to offer coaching. The program is designed for people who have figured out the basics of editing articles; they're not newcomers any more, but they might want some help in learning new roles. In this way, Esperanza would help keep hope alive for Wikipedia because we would always be grooming the next generation of admins.

What's New?
The Tutorial Drive is a new Esperanza program! In an effort to make complicated processes on Wikipedia easier for everyone, Esperanza working to create and compile a list of tutorials about processes here on Wikipedia. Consider writing one!
A discussion on how Esperanza relates to the encyclopedia has been started; please add your thoughts.
Many thanks to MiszaBot, courtesy of Misza13, for delivering the newsletter.
  • The list of proposed programs has been updated, with some proposals being archived.
  • There is now a new program: the Tutorial Drive! Consider writing a tutorial on something you are good at doing on Wikipedia.
  • The suggestion of adding a cohesive look to all the Esperanza pages is being considered; join the discussion if you are interested!
  • In order to make a useful interlanguage welcome template, those involved in translation projects will be asked what English Wikipedia policies are most important and confusing to editors coming from other language Wikipedias.
  • A discussion of Esperanza's role in Wikipedia is being held, with all thoughts of all Esperanzians wanted!
  • Shreshth91 informed everyone that he will be leaving the Esperanza council as life is rather busy; his spot will be filled by the runner up from the last election, HighwayCello.
Natalya, Banes, Celestianpower, EWS23, FireFox, The Halo, Shreshth91 and HighwayCello
20:33, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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