User talk:Jeff5102

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Hello Jeff5102, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, some of your edits have not conformed to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy, and have been reverted. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.

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Comments like "not even a shred of scientific credibility" and calling him ignorant are still POV problems. Please see for examples how to phrase these sorts of things the articles on Creationism, and the Creation-Evolution Controversy. JoshuaZ 13:53, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Your comments on Harun Yahya made me laugh. I studied science. I got scholarships. I didn't see what an undergraduate biology student should be able to see through Harun Yahya's books, hahahaha. If you can't understand scientific facts, don't blame him. Zahid 19:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Just follow the link and read it.Jitt 08:19, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Harun Yahya[edit]

Please take a look at Talk:Adnan_Oktar#Orwell_section. --Nkv 06:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Revenge edits?[edit]

Hi Jeff -

I tried in good faith to assist with language problems, NPOV issues and subjects requiring verification in the biographical article on Adnan Oktar. I asked for references, again, in good faith. If the issues claimed in the biography did indeed occur then it's important they are documented appropriately. You did provide references - most of which are from a site which clearly promotes itself as non-neutral where Oktar is concerned. While the inclusion of material from "both sides" is important - independant references are also useful - and that's what I was asking for.

You then posted this:

I am a little bit critical, but I do not see any proper references in your articles about cyclids. please make proper references (preferably from international media) or I had better chop out the unsourced allegations. (and I am serious about this!) Jeff5102 20:44, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

On my talk page - which I presume is meant to be a threat/revenge of some kind. You then proceeded to make vandalic edits to Cardiopharynx and Amphilophus_citrinellus under the guise of "inadequate referencing" (when both articles are referenced as required by the Fish Project group). You then reverted your own changes.

I stress again, I had (and have) good intentions towards the Adnan Oktar article. MidgleyDJ 23:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, I consider this very strange. I DID give references from more sides/sites, but at first you deleted parts of my text where I made references from other sides (and probably with the best intentions) and second you asked a lot of references from a paragraph that originated from one article (which I gave you in good faith), and the next thing you do, is complaining that the most references I gave are from one site. That is bizarre.

Furthermore: I need to prove every single word I am using by "international media" (even when I write about times when mr. Oktar had only a bit fame abroad) or "both sides" (also about topics where Oktar-admirers are silent about).

On the other hand, you consider it as normal to insert some criticism about Copper Healing, and you did not care to give any reference to it. And about those fish, you think it is enough to use only one frontpage of a site as a reference (plus a book I cannot read from here).

That is bizarre, unfair and hypocritical. If your intentions are as good as you claim they are, please look for some more references yourself. You are welcome to edit the article about Oktar in such a way that it fits your standards. Or do it at your own articles. Because I think it is not only me is not only me who needs to fulfil your standards; there is still a lot that needs to be done at those cyclid-pages you made yourself.Jeff5102 15:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi Jeff, Thanks for the message on my talk page. Let's agree to disagree over this, I think we both want to same thing and have somehow crossed paths. All the best, David. MidgleyDJ 21:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

John Birch Society[edit]

You made a good point about not needing references, because the material was covered in the other articles that were linkable on their names.  I don't know why, but I hadn't thought of that.  Good catch. Yosemite1967 05:51, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

P.S.  Are you stalking my contributions?  Yosemite1967 20:02, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Umbro sponsorships[edit]

Please add references to Umbro sponsorships if you can, otherwise it's likely to be deleted. Thanks, --  Chzz  ►  03:46, 3 June 2008 (UTC)


Hi Jeff, I'd invite you to take your concerns to the talk page. Contemporary Islam is an academic scholarly journal published by Springer Netherlands, and the author, Goran Larsson, is a recognised expert in sociology. You've also removed reliably sourced content from an Asia Times article. As the reliable sources talk about the topic in relation to anti-Islam sentiment, the categories are also warranted - and this has been discusses extensively on talk, which is where I think we should take this dispute. ITAQALLAH 00:01, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

Hello again Jeff, I've sent you the academic paper in question. Thanks, ITAQALLAH 19:44, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Your opinion[edit]

Your opinion is requested here. Thank you. - Agnistus (talk) 08:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


Thanks for notifying me about the AN/I report. - Agnistus (talk) 10:52, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Ahmed Deedat[edit]

I've blocked that IP but am allowing account creation if used productively.

You should also note that you broke 3RR on that page; because you were not reverting blatant vandalism, you are not exempt from the rule. And because you are not a new user, a 3RR warning is not required. I came very close to blocking you as well, but decided to hold off and see if progress can be made with the discussion. Do not revert the article again today, and don't let disagreements get so out of hand in the future. Seek dispute resolution before edit warring, and remember - there are no emergencies on Wikipedia. Kafziel Complaint Department 13:20, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Your comments on Deedat[edit]

Thanks for the comment. I reverted your edits mostly because of objections towards deletion of sourced content in the lead. Also the deletion of stamp issued by Finland was not needed IMO as this was there since long time and a dispute could have been addressed using appropriate tags on that sentence. I will try to reply ASAP in the talk page about your individual concerns.

As a whole , I have been trying to create a balance in the article - on one hand, we have very poor quality edits from fans like Islam4ever who not only bring bias, but also destroys the quality. On the other hand, some other editors make the article into a coatrack, whereby 75% of the article is devoted to criticism many of them irrelevant. Your positive contributions are appreciated. Zencv Lets discuss 10:49, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


Hi. A MedCab case has been opened here, regarding Anthony Flew. You have been named as a participant. Please visit the case page and indicate whether or not you will participate. Thank you. [roux » x] 23:12, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Adidas sponsorships[edit]

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I tried to add a new introduction to the Anthony Flew article. Within hours it had been reverted by User:Khamosh, who accused me of being paid to vandalise Wikipedia (I wish).

Could you try talking to him. (If only because because two users are required to do a Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment#Request_comment_on_users.)


Hyperdeath(Talk) 01:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Umbro sponsorships[edit]

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AfD nomination of Adidas sponsorships[edit]

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New Anthony Flew poll[edit]


I have started another poll on the Anthony Flew article, at Talk:Antony Flew#Poll on inclusion versus removal of Flew's criticism of Richard Dawkins.


Hyperdeath(Talk) 16:55, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Zakir Naik[edit]

Why did you remove the islam template I placed below this page ?  Jon Ascton  (talk) 16:50, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks ! That was what exactlty I wanted it to be. Did'nt notice the template last time.  Jon Ascton  (talk) 17:09, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


Hi Jeff5102. Regarding your revert of a few of my edits on Faith Freedom International, I don't believe it's a requirement that every change be explained on the talk page so long as the edit summary is sufficient. Even so, a lot of the changes I made, such as removing material sourced to unreliable references (i.e. WND, FPM) or material that relies too heavily on primary sources, were raised by myself on several occasions on the talk page over the past year or two. If there are any specific edits you disagree with I'd like to hear your feedback. Regards, ITAQALLAH 21:43, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

Hi Jeff5102. Does wiki is controlled by Jew? I am seeing lots of such trend. If asked then I will provide such instances.

Nazi, Swastika References Being Purged from Syrian Social Nationalist Party[edit]

Would you mind having a look at the problem of the Syrian Social Nationalist Party's Nazi history and swastika flag being systematically deleted/vandalized? This removes an important aspect of neutrality from the article. References from many reliable sources are provided. See its talk page. The edits are being done by users with IP addresses from very similar domains. Thanks, Histopher Critchens (talk) 20:35, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Southern Front of the Russian Civil War[edit]

Hi! Kazan Operation - Arsk Uprising - Pitchfork Uprising (not sure for Tambov rebellion) are generally considered to be a Eastern front, or "War in the Volga basin". Please, remove them from the corresponding template --Üñţïf̣ļëŗ (see also:ә? Ә!) 14:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Serial sockpuppet at Ahmed Deedat[edit]

Is there a page dedicated to our serial sockpuppet friend at Ahmed Deedat, where I (or others) can quickly and easily report him/her? His/her latest incarnation is User:Reachaveg. Peter Ballard (talk) 08:35, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

KIA sign[edit]

So? Wikipedia isn't perfect. Besides, the pagans, or whatever, don't have their own signs. Muslims do.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 21:49, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

And? The Muslims used to have their own sign but it won't work any more. Besides, it's not like I'm trying to spread a radical new method or something. This is done all over the Middle Eastern conflict articles. See Gaza War for example. If you really insist, keep it. The battle of Kosovo article needs much more than a simple acronym changed.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 04:08, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
You can use the dagger. It was just a skull and crossbones.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 00:56, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Edit Summaries[edit]

Please remember to add edit summaries so other editors can figure out what you're doing [1]. Thanks! --NeilN talkcontribs 14:27, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Dynasty minor characters[edit]

Hey there, thanks for your recent edits, but please do not add any more images to Dynasty minor characters. Every entry previously had an image but the list was completely stripped as it violated fair use rules as an "image gallery." We managed to keep a small amount of images (I believe the argument was for original cast members, images of notable characters not featured anywhere else on Wikipedia) but if there are too many in this list it will be stripped again. Thanks.— TAnthonyTalk 16:45, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Adnan Oktar[edit]

The parts removed have been found to be highly questionable and based on non-notable sources, so they were removed. I think you and I would probably find a lot to agree about off-wiki on this gentleman's work and philosophy, but on-wiki, the rules we have are there for a reason and not defaming living subjects (whether we like them or not) is pretty much iron-clad policy around here. Orderinchaos 22:00, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

The sources were among others the scientific monthly New Scientist, the Spanish newspaper El Periodico, and Turkish nationwide television news channel NTV (Turkey). Calling them "highly questionable and [..] non-notable sources" is hilarious.Jeff5102 (talk) 09:57, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Zakir Naik[edit]

Hi Jeff, I have taken the liberty of reverting the article back to the version of Ari, which is the only one that made sense. Feel free to remove and edit the things you did in your last 4 edits into that version. The version you edited into was the result of a heavily pov and vandalist attempt over the past afternoon by two editors (possibly socks). They removed chunks of material which was reliably sourced replacing it with chunks on biblical debates(??). Completely messed up the article. Just wanted to inform you. Inthedarkness (talk) 22:06, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I have a suspicion the sockpuppet from Zakir Naik is back. --Ari (talk) 08:53, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Jeff, are you able to revert Zakir Naik to the last good version? Spine.Cleaver is insisting on edit warring in order to get non-consensus edits in.Thanks. --Ari (talk) 06:53, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Accusation of Sock Puppetry[edit]

Hello. I am unsure why you have accused me as sock-puppetry. Could you please explain what I have done wrong? I am unsure who 'Awliya' is, aside from being reported on the history and discussion pages of Zakir Naik. I apologize for any inconvenience.

The Well Wisher (talk) 09:40, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Okay Awliya. You just happen to start a new account for the sole purpose of reverting back to Awliya's edits. You also just happen to sign comments in the same way with an attempted line break as well as both contacting random editors. --Ari (talk) 11:07, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure who I 'randomly' contacted. What are you talking about!?! --The Well Wisher (talk) 11:54, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Well, in times of an edit war, one user is banned, and starts to use sock puppets. At this time, a new user pops up, and restores it into a version that looks like the version the sock puppetteer preferred. That was what you did on the Zakir Naik-article, and that causes quite some suspicions on you.Jeff5102 (talk) 13:15, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Kbonline and Sister Agnes are not Sockpuppets of Awliya, because I am Awliya. Check their IPs you false accuser Jeff! —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:53, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

You are nothing but a liar. As they say in North America: F*ck U —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 09:56, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

For the facts, please see Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Awliya/Archive. Jeff5102 (talk) 11:51, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

Reviewer granted[edit]

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I don't mind at all. In fact, sometimes i know i made mistakes because ive rushed throough my edits, and i hoped someone else would fix them. usually i have to go back and fix the mistake, like a broken references etc.Дунгане (talk) 22:04, 17 July 2010 (UTC)


This edit could have been reverted as vandalism, but I'll assume you just don't know what alt-text is; it's about accessibility. Do not do that, again, and if you've done it elsewhere, go restore it. See WP:ALT. Jack Merridew 13:16, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

this should all be in one place Jack Merridew
What is exactly the reason of those alt-A-texts at the Brad Pitt-article (like "A Caucasian with light brown hair, blue eyes and a short brown beard, in front of a turquoise background. He is wearing a white shirt and white hat.") It looks like a joke that I would have liked if I still was twelve years old, but I passed that age long ago.Jeff5102 (talk) 14:46, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
(talk page stalker)Think about how a blind person using screen-reading software would 'view' that page.  pablo 14:50, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
Did you read the page at WP:ALT that I linked on your talk page? It explains it in some detail. Jack Merridew 14:52, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
I see what you mean. This example shows my problems with your text at Pitt's page:
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Tony Blair and George W. Bush shaking hands at a press conference.
Blair and Bush agree on a strategy for peace in the Middle-East on 12 November 2004.
link graphic Tony Blair and George W. Bush shaking hands at a press conference. Blair and Bush agree on a strategy for peace in the Middle East on 12 November 2004. The image shows them greeting each other with a handshake during a press conference.

The alt text shouldn't say "Two men shaking hands," because that's not why the picture was chosen; it needs to identify the men. The alt text shouldn't say they were in the East Room of the White House, because that isn't clear from the photograph. That the men are dressed identically is conveyed by the photograph, but it isn't relevant to the article.

Jeff5102 (talk) 11:55, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

I didn't write that alt-text, I just restored it. Alt-text should be descriptive, so that someone not seeing the image gets a fair idea of what's depicted. The text you removed is a reasonable description of the image, but if you would like to adjust it, fine; just don't remove it all. The above table is from the WP:ALT. I'll grant you that it's not a very good example of alt-text. It could mention that they're standing front of two podiums with seals affixed to them and equipped with microphones, that the background is read. The idea is to describe the picture for cases where the picture is not seen. This could be someone who is blind, but it could also be someone with their browser set to not download images (typically because they're on a slow connection), or it could be an issue with the server being fucked up and not serving the image properly. The image caption is read via screen readers, too, so they get that information; the two should not repeat each other too much. Hope that helps, Jack Merridew 04:16, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Self-pub sources[edit]

If you're still interested in clearing out self-published sources, you might want to look at (list of links here). It came up on an article on my watchlist, and appears to be cited in hundreds of, generally minor and poorly patrolled, religious articles. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 14:21, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Adnan Oktar[edit]

There was a very long discussion with three editors, two of them quite senior "barnstar" editors, for 24 hours on talk page, please discuss there before you change. You should not make changes to whole sections if they are disputed without discussing them first on the talk page. --Geoffry Thomas (talk) 09:14, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

I did discuss them on the Talkpage. If you wish to ignore that, so be it, but please do not bother me on my talkpage with that.Jeff5102 (talk) 09:20, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
You reverted the change before you discussed on the talk page. I am answering your comments there. --Geoffry Thomas (talk) 10:08, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
I am afraid that you are mistaken. I discussed the new lead last evening, and I reverted the page last morning. Please try to pay attention to the dates, before you start your accusations.Jeff5102 (talk) 10:19, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi Geoff, I see that the discussions around mr. Oktar exploded when I was off-line for only two days. I have only a little bit of time to work in the article, but I'll get back on it as soon as I can. Regards, Jeff5102 (talk) 10:05, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Please make your comments now. I really don't want to go back and forth with many editors for several weeks only to have you revert it all because you weren't in the discussion. --Geoffry Thomas (talk) 10:46, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
I cannot help it that the discussion-page is flooded with comments the last few days. Please don't hasten the process too much, will you?Jeff5102 (talk) 11:26, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
I wrote you two comments on my talk page --Geoffry Thomas (talk) 08:30, 29 November 2010 (UTC)

Zakir Naik[edit]

Hello and thank you kindly. I did not know the convention you mentioned and I accept its logic. Thanks. I just considered it strange that Dr Naik was repeatedly called Zakir (his first name) throughout the entry. I have removed the title throughout. I have no real interest in Naik, and have no position either way on the strengths and weaknesses of his preaching. I just monitor the page because of the strident partisanship that I see almost every day. Naik seems to have passionate fans and equally passionate detractors. As a consequence the entry veers occasionally (actually, rather often) between uncritical praise and uncritical condemnation. I'm keen to see it remain neutral. This has not proven easy. Thanks again.GorgeCustersSabre (talk) 17:07, 3 December 2010 (UTC)

ottomans'n stuff[edit]

hi, can I solicit your opinion here? (RE:[2]). Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 02:57, 17 December 2010 (UTC)

Allegations about User:Lyltry[edit]

I've been asked to review your comments about User:Lyltry from the point of view of whether they went against the WP:OUTING policy. I think in this case your manner of expressing your suspicions went too far and breached this threshold, and so I have used Revision Deletion (but not OverSight) on your edit summaries for these three edits. Whilst I appreciate that keeping a watchful eye for potential SPIs and socks is worthwhile, we should be cautious about claiming with scant evidence things which are damaging in a form which is essentially eternally public. For the Village Pump thread you started, I have blanked it (but not used RevDel or even OverSight as it would involve wiping a good deal of the page history), but please don't do this in future. If you have similar concerns you should take them up with the user in question first, and then on WP:ANI or WP:SPI as appropriate.

Yours, James F. (talk) 14:28, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

Adnan Oktar[edit]

Hi Jeff. I just opened up a discussion about the article on the BLP notice board. BigJim707 (talk) 22:13, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Regilio Tuur[edit]

I notice that you have previously edited Regilio Tuur and would like to make you aware that I'm seeking consensus on the article on the talk page.--Mrmatiko (talk) 16:05, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Peoples Movement Assembly[edit]

Would you be interested in looking back at the "Peoples Movement Assembly" article to provide feedback, as it now provides links to other Wikipedia articles and the tone has been changed? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Septima2011 (talkcontribs) 04:45, 25 October 2011 (UTC)


I was wondering if you can have a look at this BLP I am watching and edited today. A user insist on interpreting the content as well as remove sourced content citing bias, outdated (?) and inaccurate information though all is as per RSs. It's a BLP and it is clear the user does not understand the wikipedia policies on editing nor shows any interest in wanting to read these. Thanks. Nimom0 (talk) 13:43, 12 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. Regards, Nimom0 (talk) 00:34, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Pahrump, NV[edit]

Hi Jeff5102! Thank you for the heads up, please let us know if the logo is now viewable on the Pahrump, Nevada page.

Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by OfficialTownofPahrump (talkcontribs) 16:34, 5 January 2012 (UTC)


Please provide the page number for this citation. Thank you. (talk) 03:38, 10 February 2012 (UTC)

done!Jeff5102 (talk) 12:37, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
May I ask why you cited a large range of page numbers? Is there a sentence in particular that supports the proposition it is being cited for? (talk) 20:05, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
Never-mind. I've taken care of the problem. (talk) 20:17, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Farhat Hashmi[edit]

Dear Jeff5102, I'll be very grateful for a neutral set of eyes to look at the Farhat Hashmi article, its recent edits and its talk page. I think that in places this articles strays away from the subject, a person (Farhat Hashmi), and wanders into only tangentially related wider discussions about Wahhabism, extremism, veiled women, etc. Those are important topics, of course, but in my view the inclusion of information on loosely related topics impacts negatively on the proportionality / balance / focus of ths article. I don't mean its neutrality. That seems ok. I mean its emphasis. Despite the comment of one editor, thing has nothing to do with any "personal likes/dislikes". I am merely trying to keep the article tight, focused and sticking only to the person it is about. Thanks.GorgeCustersSabre (talk) 18:20, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

Malicious edits[edit]

Dear Jeff5102, can you please look at the latest edits on the article Joel Hayward by a user called I think he's adding malicious content that might be defamatory. I've reverted his edits but he reverts them back. Can you please look at his talk page and history. He seems to have been a problem editor from the beginning. What can we do? Thank you.GorgeCustersSabre (talk) 17:37, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

Secular Islam Summit[edit]

More POV-pushing, if you're interested in helping out again. — kwami (talk) 01:01, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Maafa 21[edit]

Jeff, thank you for joining in the effort to bring balance to the Maafa 21 Article. Please check out its Talk page to see the ongoing discussions and feel free to join in. God bless! -- Beleg Strongbow (talk) 11:33, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

I hope you'll be back soon. :) -- Beleg Strongbow (talk) 12:37, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Re: Primary sources[edit]

Even though secondary sources would be better, I think you did the right thing in expanding that section so we have an idea what actually went on! Thanks. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 00:43, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

thank you! I still got some other ideas for the article, but I'll write them down later on the discussion page.Jeff5102 (talk) 10:03, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Sweet. Re: the edit to Haddad's comments - can you suggest another way of phrasing it? "Extreme in their anti-Islam views" seems like a reasonable paraphrase of "extreme in their views...basically it's everyone known for damning Islam." If we omit the latter part it is unclear and may convey the impression that she believes the speakers to be very Islamist or something. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 17:37, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Then the best thing to do is to expand the quote. I know you like small quotes, but in the way you put it, I think we have no other option. I still think that we should include some context on Hadad's emplyer. It would put the remark somewhat more in context. And for the speakers: the old site presents them here. Maybe it is useful.Jeff5102 (talk) 10:41, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
Oh, I'm totally find expanding the quote! Do you want to do that or shall I? As for Haddad's employer, I'm not opposed in theory, but there are a couple of issues - 1, the potential of synth (since we need to get it from a source that isn't about the summit, and if we're going to do that, there's a lot of other information we could also pull in about her that doesn't aim to discredit her) and 2, the particular phrasing used gave the impression of Haddad as a representative of an advocacy organization that simply happened to be based at Georgetown, when she's a professor there (and also the author and/or editor of several books on the subject published through academic presses), ie. an expert commentator. Re the list of speakers - I think we used to include it but someone else removed it, and I don't remember what their reason was so I don't want to restore it myself. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 18:51, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

We also have this link [3]: it explains the negative stance on CAIR by Investors Weekly. Maybe it's useful.Jeff5102 (talk) 21:46, 6 April 2013 (UTC)

I'm not sure it's relevant; it's a report of an extremely local dispute in which one party to the dispute happened to mention the summit. (Who is Jeff Katz that we care what he had to say?) This is not really coverage. –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 04:07, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Also! As I mentioned in my edit summary, you and the anonymous IP disagree on whether it is better to include the whole quote from Haddad or to paraphrase its contents. I'm fine with either, so why don't you have that discussion on the talk page? –Roscelese (talkcontribs) 06:48, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

Re: A Turning Point in National History AfD[edit]

Hey Jeff, I raised a query at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/A Turning Point in National History. Not sure you have it on your Watchlist so I thought I should leave you a note here. Cheers, Stalwart111 01:38, 22 May 2013 (UTC)



Grand Duchess Anastasia[edit]

Apologies for my overhasty misreading of this change. Colonies Chris (talk) 11:41, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

You already have it watchlisted[edit]

Hi, as article creator you may have seen recent edits on List of Adidas sponsorships. ‎removed the spelling you created article with, I undid it with the summary (Undid revision 566754088 by Fyunck(click) this nonsense shouldn't impact Adidas article), and the User put it straight back in again. Sorry. In ictu oculi (talk) 04:30, 2 August 2013 (UTC)

Praveen Swami photo[edit]

Can you include a photo of Mr. Swami in the article?KartikGomala (talk) 06:22, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

ANI Notice[edit]

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Adnan Oktar[edit]

What is your problem? Behemoth (talk) 10:01, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

My problems? 1. The WP:SPS-rule. 2. You calling me a dumbass].Jeff5102 (talk) 11:58, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

Afghan embassy[edit]

Ping! And I suspect that there's more that could be added. -- Hoary (talk) 07:28, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

Charles Harvey Combe[edit]

The "notability" tag added by Waynejayes was obviously wrong (he clearly passes WP:POLITICIAN as a member of a national legislature), but perhaps they didn't understand what "MP" means. In this international encyclopedia it's worth spelling things out in a bit more detail, for readers and other editors.

Please also remember that if you create an article for someone using their middle name it's important to add a link from the "firstname lastname" version of their name: I've added a hatnote to Charles Combe; sometimes it's an entry in a disambiguation page that's needed. Thanks. PamD 22:23, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Dear PamD, thanks for the advice! I'll use it when I'll continue to edit the article, which will be soon. Best regards, Jeff5102 (talk) 08:25, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

Laci Green[edit]

Semi-protection won't help the article as such. The disruptive editors that you mentioned are registered editors. I won't speculate on whether they are sockpuppets. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:56, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

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Stop redirecting[edit]

Stop redirecting the CC articles.. First it doesn't make sense to redirect them to the Politburo articles (since they also elect the Secretariat, Orgburo, the department heads, auditing commission), and secondly, me another are planning to create them. Just wait. --TIAYN (talk) 11:30, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

All right. My idea was that my actions prevented redlinks, which is a noble cause. But I'll stop with that. However, a "please" would be nice, next time. Best regards,Jeff5102 (talk) 11:59, 24 October 2014 (UTC)


Certainly Tom that you asked to intervene seems very knowledgeable and I have asked him perhaps to combine the two points of view and edit warring articles (i.e current and my version which Jeff5102 and JudeccaXIII keeps deleting/reverting) into one, so all aspects are clearly available to the Wikipedia reader. I am not that knowledgeable when it comes to adding sources (or even if this note should be put here for you) but as I said in the edit summary all the material is sourced via Google from reputable books/sources and not chat rooms etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mhakcm (talkcontribs) 04:42, 25 October 2014 (UTC)

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Dear Jeff5102, I hope you are well. Another editor (RookTaker) and I are feeling a bit frustrated that our efforts to keep the iERA article neutral, balanced and reliable are being thwarted by an anonymous editor who changes his editor name (sometimes to mimic ours) and seems to want to whitewash the article. I don't have an view as to whether iERA is good or bad, but it is a controversial entity. That's not just my opinion. Neutral and reliable sources show that. Hiding the controversial nature of this entity will therefore prevent an accurate account being presented. I'm not out to paint the iERA as despicable. I truly don't have an axe to grind. I don't believe that RookTaker has either. Can you please take a look at the article and the edit history and see what you think? Thanks and regards, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 05:30, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Jeff5102. What a great job you do! Regards, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 06:16, 9 November 2014 (UTC)


Thanks, you have a good eye... On that note, please feel free to participate in creating the missing articles in the Template:Communist Party of the Soviet Union; I for one use Google Translate to transliterate the lists I find on this site, while Ymblater, whose working on the 27th Central Committee, is a Russian.. The good thing is that I'm created articles for all the Politbuors and the Secretariats, and right now we're only missing the Orgbuors and several Central Committees - but of course there is more to do then meets the eye; we don't have similar articles on the Central Control Commission and the Central Auditing Commission. Anyhow, again, thanks with regards to finding out who Ivan Smilga is! :) --TIAYN (talk) 09:19, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Umar Vadillo[edit]

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Very nice graphic describing[edit]

The papal schism! -Darouet (talk) 23:37, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Western Schism[edit]

Since the Roman line articles (example: Pope Boniface IX) are under Pope & the Avignon/Pisan guys (example: Antipope Benedict XIII & Antipope Alexander V) are under Antipope? I shall accept your version of the infoboxes & succession boxes (i.e Roman/Avignon/Pisan claiments), as that is a fair compromise :) GoodDay (talk) 03:45, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

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