User talk:Jeff G./Archives/2011/August

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editing page on senator david norris

hi, im the person who has been trying to add information to the David Norris page, about the controversy surrounding a letter he sent to an Israeli court, seeking clemency for his former partner, Ezra Yizhak. The source is a website owned by a reliable news channel, so i dont understand why my addition to the page keeps on getting removed. is it because most of it is copied and pasted from the source i got it from? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aunty-Semitist (talkcontribs) 23:18, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

I believe you are referring to these two edits you made as If you look closely at the bottom of Norris pursues Áras bid despite revelations - RTÉ News, you will see "© RTÉ 2011-RTÉ Commercial Enterprises Ltd, Registration No: 155076, Donnybrook, Dublin 4, Ireland." RTÉ Commercial Enterprises Ltd owns the copyright to that text. If that text were to stay in the article as-is, they could win a lawsuit against the Wikimedia Foundation for plagiarism AKA copyright infringement. I don't want that to happen, I don't think Materialscientist wants that to happen, and I hope you don't want that to happen.   — Jeff G.  ツ 23:45, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
oh alright, thanks. ill just write it in my own words then. And about my user name, i wouldnt really call it bad taste, anti-semitist isnt even a word, probably just as offensive as calling myself zeno-fobe  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aunty-Semitist (talkcontribs) 00:01, 1 August 2011 (UTC) 

DataSigns AIV report

I blocked after reading this, but a report of that nature really ought to go to WP:UAA. Daniel Case (talk) 02:59, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the block and your concern, but a report did go to WP:UAA, about a minute before my report to AIV. Details follow.
Breawycker speedy tagged DataSigns and posted to User talk:DataSigns at 00:42 and filed this report at 00:43, Huggle soon learned of the UAA report and notified me via a red ring and upgraded priority, I viewed User:DataSigns' spam of Variable-message sign and asked Huggle to warn the user (or perhaps extend an extant AIV report), at which point Huggle decided to file that report on my behalf at 00:44. I guess Huggle believes in a multi-pronged defense strategy. I am unsure why Breawycker added the spaces in this edit.   — Jeff G.  ツ 03:55, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
OK, no problem. I hadn't realized you were using Huggle, or that it did that. As for Breawycker, my guess is he wasn't, and typed it from what he believed was memory. Sorry about all this. Daniel Case (talk) 18:14, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I have asked Breawycker to chime in.   — Jeff G.  ツ 19:03, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
I added the space accidentally, because I was trying to add a space on the article link but accidentally put it on the username.--Breawycker (talk to me!)
Thanks for the explanation. All's well that ends well.  :)   — Jeff G.  ツ 20:13, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:SKA Saint Petersburg Logo 2008.jpg


Thanks for uploading File:SKA Saint Petersburg Logo 2008.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Courcelles 03:31, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Hamburger SV

Hello Jeff, I don't know why you claim there were lack of references in my adition to Hamburger SV page because there was a link to another Wikipedia page. There is also this source: If you agree with this change, please introduce it, because I don't know how to work in Wikipedia very well. Thank you. Paulojmartins (talk) 19:08, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Regarding "link to another Wikipedia page", please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia is a tertiary source and WP:ASR. If the information on that other Wikipedia page has a primary or secondary source, you should be able to cite that source and eliminate the middleman, but don't delete the wikilink (it's a good thing). Also, I have some doubts about using because it appears to be just one man's opinion, and not peer-reviewed.   — Jeff G.  ツ 03:27, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

'persistent spammer

I'd like to report this multi-wiki spammer , currently using User:Najwakaramm who is constantly spamming Beren Saat with a facebook page link. He/she is constantly watching the articles (in many languages) and keeps on re-adding the link within minutes, sometimes even seconds. -- (talk) 20:19, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice, that user has been blocked from this project indefinitely.   — Jeff G.  ツ 12:23, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Battery B, 12th Field Artillery, Feb 1925list the page as the source

I am not sure if I am doing this correctly so forgive me if it is wrong.

My grandfather was in this Unit, stationed at Fort Sam Houston in 1925. I have a photo of the unit members, broken into 6 panels. You are welcome to include it if you wish, just list my page as the source.

Thank you and I enjoyed your page.

Sherry Wilkinson Hightower — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:24, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

Was "National Photo Service" a part of the US Government at the time the photo was taken? There are a bunch of photos on that page, which would you want to share? See also Wikipedia:Example requests for permission#Declaration_of_consent_for_all_enquiries.   — Jeff G.  ツ 19:27, 14 August 2011 (UTC)


Not only is the CSD correct, but another thing: He included no copyright either. LikeLakers2 (talk) 01:03, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thank you for your warning. Please don't block me from editing. I will not vandalize again. Trust me. Shortie43504 (talk) 01:29, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Watching my talk page and comment

Are you watching my talk page and could you please comment here? WayneSlam 02:22, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done   — Jeff G.  ツ 02:29, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Thanks for removing the filth from my talk page. Atomician (talk) 03:01, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks!   — Jeff G.  ツ 03:02, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Deathly Hallows Part 2 Soundtrack

Hello, I don't know why my edit is called "vandalism" if I'm just trying to clarify that composer Alexandre Desplat has never mentioned that he used the theme "The Kiss" for Deathly Hallows Part 2 soundtrack. If I can't change this information because it's not true, you should procede to remove it from the page. Thank you, I hope you will consider my observation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvarrrdo (talkcontribs) 03:13, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

I suggest you play the game before telling me what to do, non-administrator

The voice matches the character. It's the same person. -- (talk) 13:02, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

I suggest you attribute your sources.   — Jeff G.  ツ 13:05, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

do me a favor...

...and tell me when I am over the line with those guys at Nicosia. It's frustrating. Thanks. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 13:10, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

That would be when you sink to their level, and you're not even close. :)   — Jeff G.  ツ 16:18, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Greywriter and Glowpoint Note

Hiya Jeff, I just wanted you to know you just warned Greywolf for removing blatant promotional copyvio that we've been insisting he remove. You may wish to remove that template from his page, or clarify it, as the diff you provided is to his removal of the copyvio. Best, Rob ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/CN 16:16, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

I dunno about you, but I'm ready for my next cup of coffee. ;-) ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/CN 16:17, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Sorry, I meant to warn re the original edit, which was spam as well as a copyvio (both re glowpoint's website). Not that it makes a difference now, since the article's been deleted (twice, thanks to Peridon and Kinu).   — Jeff G.  ツ 16:26, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Real estate staging

Although I wholeheartedly agree that the article Real estate staging was blatant advertising at the time you tagged it for speedy deletion, the article is about the same subject as the article Home staging and is a plausible search term. I have therefore removed the speedy deletion tag you placed and redirected the article accordingly. Cheers! —KuyaBriBriTalk 17:12, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for both the redirect and the notice. If I see something like that again, I'll just redirect it.   — Jeff G.  ツ 17:14, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
I have also reported the user who posted that article at WP:UAA due to repeated addition of ELs to a website that matches its username. —KuyaBriBriTalk 17:15, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I considered doing so myself, but then the user made a more reasonable edit. I sometimes watch Sell This House and I agree that "Real estate staging" is a plausible search term.   — Jeff G.  ツ 17:20, 15 August 2011 (UTC)


Exactly what are you talking about??? Can you post the link? Sean (Ask Me?) 01:44, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry about posting to your user talk page, I meant to post this, which directly followed your "Notification: speedy deletion nomination of Battle of Golan Heights (874 BCE). (TW)". Also, please be aware that "SUL account doesn't exist" is incompatible with "Unified login: AwamerT is the unique unified login of this user for all public Wikimedia projects.", and that I tweaked your user page for you.   — Jeff G.  ツ 02:43, 16 August 2011 (UTC)


What should I do Jeff?? Sean (Ask Me?) 03:04, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Please get out your list of passwords for all your Wikipedia accounts in different languages and go to Special:MergeAccount. If you have any questions about that, please see m:Help:Unified login.   — Jeff G.  ツ 03:13, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Articles for deletion

Please give articles a chance before you nominate them for deletion. This is one reason wikipedia is losing editors Bhny (talk) 06:57, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

survivor series

please do not revert my edits, i have asked for an admin to look over this please await his response before restoring the actricle --Christianandjericho (talk) 14:19, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Alberto Portugheis

I am learning all but slowly that I am unable to use the wiki site and am having nightmares at the warning you send. Thanks, anyway, for your offers of help. Sadly, I am too computer illiterate to understand most of what I read. My aim was to make a reference to a friend, Alberto Portugheis, who is an international pianist and teacher. To ensure that I got all information provided accurate, I asked him to check all that I had written. He adjusted the words in some instances and approved at the entire script. I asked him to send photographs, which he did. He assures me that he has jurisdiction over them and that they belong to him. I have read your notes above.. and if I am contravening what you require, please understand my ineptness on the computer. I have an MBE for environmental and community services.... but although I have learned much about computers, this site has left me completely bewildered! I cannot fully understand the instructions given. What I need to know is can I re-post an entry for Alberto Portugheis if I re-write the first sentence and use only photos which I have taken? I am sure this information is already there in your many pages of instructions, but I can scarcely read the tiny print over pages and pages. As a world wide encyclopaedia, I fully appreciate your policing, but an entry should exist for this man who does so much work for both music and peace in our troubled world.Normaprocter (talk) 08:30, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Norma, I am sorry for all the notices I placed. Any article here needs to have reliable sources that we can verify, needs to be written about a notable subject (in this case, also meeting or exceeding our musical and/or biographical criteria), and needs to be substantially written by English Wikipedia editors (with quotes of others properly attributed). I have requested the article's deleting Administrator Atama (talk · contribs) to userfy the article at User talk:Atama#Alberto_Portugheis so that you can continue work on it. Any image here needs to be released under an appropriate license (which would qualify it to be on Wikimedia Commons, where it can be used by Wikipedia in all languages, and by other Wikimedia projects), except potentially one image in an infobox that is subject to fair use, and needs to have important details (source, author, and date) filled out completely.   — Jeff G.  ツ 15:24, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
I restored the article, moved the article to User:Normaprocter (merging the histories), then moved that to User:Normaprocter/Alberto Portugheis. I added a noindex template because the page has some copyvio stuff on it still, and I'd rather keep that low profile while it's being fixed. -- Atama 17:55, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks! I marked it {{userspace draft}}.   — Jeff G.  ツ 15:02, 17 August 2011 (UTC)


I have secure encrypted loggin! Sean (Ask Me?) 18:03, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Cool!   — Jeff G.  ツ 14:57, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Tlis

Ambox warning pn.svgTemplate:Tlis has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. The Evil IP address (talk) 19:56, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the notice. I marked it {{db-g7}}, as it's no longer used.   — Jeff G.  ツ 14:54, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Huggle August 2011

Why are there bug reports when I use Huggle? Do you get them? WayneSlam 22:20, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Gloria Estefan Singles Discography

Hello. You have just reverted an edit I made which was to rollback to an earlier version of a page that had been excessively and incorrectly edited by an IP user. I understand that you are using GLOO, but please be aware that the tool can flag up false positives and you should investigate fully before using it or it could be construed as misuse. Thank you. MassassiUK 01:26, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, you're right, it was a false positive.   — Jeff G.  ツ 01:28, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
No probs. MassassiUK 01:30, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Paul Dee

Dawg everything I said in the Paul Dee article was clearly based in fact. I don't think there is a need to cite any sources in this particular instance, considering relevant sources have already been noted in other parts of the article related to my specific contributions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:55, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree with what Acroterion wrote at User talk:Acroterion#Bro_please.   — Jeff G.  ツ 03:03, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Dude bro (anon97), to put it simply, one can write about what someone did, but one cannot apply their own judgment to it by indicating what they think of those actions, no matter how they perceive the definitions of the words they wish to use. It may even be deemed a blockable offense, dawg. So, I'd read up on policies and such, maybe starting with The Five Pillars. Best, ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/CN 03:31, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Broski, describing someone accurately using words with unambiguous meanings does not constitute personal opinion, it constitutes effective use of the English language. There is no question Mr. Dee is a hypocrite; it is a factual statement and thus does not violate any of your guidelines here. (talk) 03:45, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Convince a respected journalist to write an aricle about your allegations in a respected publication, then you can cite that article. Until then, please keep your allegations off this website.   — Jeff G.  ツ 03:47, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
Does this work? As I noted, everything I'd stated was fact. It was fact because of this article, which I thought had been cited already on the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────No. Nowhere does it use the inflammatory and libelous words you used to describe Dee. Please see my comment on Acroterion's talk page. Thanks, ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/CN 05:01, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

You cannot twist the words of others to serve your propaganda. --Σ talkcontribs 05:34, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Question regarding a warning you left

I'm curious what prompted this warning for Genesisfanatic89 (talk · contribs). I assume from the timing that it's related to this edit, which is sourced to a USA Today article. Is USA Today or that specific article not a reliable source, or have I missed something? For the purposes of the AfD of that article, I'm assuming that it is reliable; however, one such source is not enough to establish notability. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:29, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

It was the replacement name in this edit.   — Jeff G.  ツ 14:47, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
I couldn't open the diff you provided but I think you were going for this. A templated warning seems a bit harsh (I personally would have responded right below that message) but that at least clarifies what I wanted to know. Thanks. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:22, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Jeff

You've changed -----> (This user has been on Wikipedia for 26 days)in my page!! Why?? Have checked this user (icily7)??? No Well, that's me, but I decided to use my real name!! I even referred to (icily7) in my page, I've created that account in 2009 !! Do you have any other solution Jeff?? Sean (Ask Me?) 18:44, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

You appear not to have edited as Icily7 (talk · contribs) but since it means that much to you, I have backdated that userbox.   — Jeff G.  ツ 23:14, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Jeff

Idon't know how to thank you my friend! Thank you alot. icily7 (talk) 03:42, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)Just one word of advice... even though you've disclosed your old account, it is probably wise to stick with one and not use the other. People love looking for socks, and it's the easiest way to ensure people do not get the wrong impression. Best, ROBERTMFROMLI | TK/CN 04:01, 19 August 2011 (UTC)


Thanks for the talk page revert!  :) Wikipelli Talk 14:43, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome!   — Jeff G.  ツ 15:46, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Life is good

Hey Jeff.

I was just trying to resize the picture File:LifeIsGood.png. Expand it...

Not a big deal one way or the other, but it'd be nice to know how.

The Wikipedia help articles are difficult to navigate and pretty recursive. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adswank (talkcontribs) 15:52, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

The image File:LifeIsGood.png is currently 242 × 63 pixels (242 wide by 63 high) and looks like File:LifeIsGood.png.
At 300px wide, it would look like 300px, which has jaggies.
At 300px high, it would look like 1000x300px, which is huge and has more jaggies.
Do you have a source for a higher-resolution image that would be appropriate for the infobox on this article? I checked with the subject's website, and their new 205 × 57 pixel logo (with a Jake smiley on the left) is even smaller, so that's no help, but I found a bigger 360 × 97 pixel version of that new logo archived at as thumbnailed by - how does that strike you?   — Jeff G.  ツ 16:24, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

That works great for me! I just don't want to fiddle with uploading it and whatnot. I'm concerned about sharing copyrighted material. How'd you search that page. Thanks again for your help. This is tough to break into if you don't have real-life friends who do it! Adswank (talk) 16:56, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

All done. My most useful online image search engines are Google Images and TinEye.   — Jeff G.  ツ 17:45, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Gise-354x COI

Why you template Gise-354x with COI. Clearly a disruptive editor but I didn't get COI ducky from the use, so what is your rationale?--Cerejota (talk) 02:20, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

That user seemed (from the edits I was exposed to today via Huggle and from the user's user talk page) to be very persistent in edit warring to keep that user's opinions in (or to keep others' opinions out of) article Koch Industries and related articles concerning the activities of the majority owners of that company. That user also seems to be belligerent in its interactions on its user talk page. For the record: I was unaware at the time that the various Georgia-Pacific and Invista products I have used or admired in the past were made by a subsidiary of that company; and I may have used some petroleum products or eaten some beef that was made by a subsidiary of that company, as I generally purchase unbranded petroleum products and beef from retailers.   — Jeff G.  ツ 02:45, 20 August 2011 (UTC)


This note is just to let you know that you mis-tagged Booboobadingdingmachine as a foreign language article. I'm not saying it's encyclopedic! I'm not sure I know what it is. Best Cloveapple (talk) 03:29, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I tagged it using Huggle with "A2 - wrong project", which I guess should be renamed "wrong language" given its definition. I think some sort of poetry or sources project would be most suitable for the original article containing poetry. Acroterion deleted it as "A1: Not enough context to identify article's subject: probably copyright violation". That was one of my contenders, along with G3 and possibly G1. Anyway, it's gone, good riddance. :)   — Jeff G.  ツ 03:37, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Yup, it definitely wasn't an article! I just couldn't figure out what to tag it as. Cloveapple (talk) 03:53, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Non-free files in your user space

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Mediation Disptute Assitance

I wanted to take a second to thank you for the help you gave in my mediation issue; I know I've got some technical issues to work out, and your attempt at assisitce really is appreciaoted. Andering J. REDDSON —Preceding undated comment added 21:38, 20 August 2011 (UTC).

You're welcome.   — Jeff G.  ツ 23:50, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
The reason I often do not sign my messages is I developed one that sone might find "offensive" (but painfully true).;) A REDDSON


Thanks for helping out with anti-vandalism work, but please go a little slower; there are currently two reports you've made to AIV that aren't vandalism. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:58, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your concern, allow me to explain:
To my eye, these all qualify as vandalism.   — Jeff G.  ツ 15:06, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
Sorry for the delay in reply, this subject is probably a bit stale now. Generally to be vandalism, there needs to be an intent to disrupt/damage things, not just that effect. Doing thing wrong and messing things up isn't vandalism, and usually calls for a note to the user rather than a report to AIV. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:27, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
Sadly, four notes to User talk:BobDylanFan1994 have (through your post above) been ineffective in stemming the effects.   — Jeff G.  ツ 11:57, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Allegis Capital and Noveda Technologies


I did not intended to remove the speedy deletion tag. I did infact reply on the talk page as to why the deletion was unwise.


Brad S. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bschoeni (talkcontribs) 03:55, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

The reasons for their deletions are evident on your user talk page.   — Jeff G.  ツ 12:02, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Oh sorry, just realised I can send you a message :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:26, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm so happy for you.   — Jeff G.  ツ 17:28, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the barnstar and all of your anti-vandalism patrols! Keep up the good work! – Zntrip 03:39, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

You're very welcome!   — Jeff G.  ツ 03:41, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Kyle Lafferty page

Hi, I just received a warning from you about the Kyle Lafferty page. I can promise that I never wrote those comments and if you look I was trying to delete comments accusing him of being a racist and change the transfer fee that had been changed to something stupid. I am a huge Rangers supporter and I can prove this if needed, I would never Ever write anything like that link apparently says I did. Is it not possible there was a mistake and it is showing up as me that added that text when all I was doing was deleting the derogatory text?

Surely the fact I have gone to this trouble to message you as well shows that something may be wrong, I appreciate you are just doing your job and I actually think you all do a great job so is there any chance you could look into this please? As I said I am willing to prove my identity and prove I am a Rangers supporter if needed. This is actually really annoying as I am sure you can understand.


Gary welch — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:25, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

In addition to the info on your user talk page, why don't you sign your posts, use Edit Summaries, and create an account?   — Jeff G.  ツ 12:06, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

The History of Minor League Baseball

Were the Bradenton Marauders really founded in 1989 or is it actually 1957. If the team was founded in 1957 well it should say it was founded in 1957 instead of 1989 and it should then have the information that the team was affiliated with the phillies under affiliates. Also the information should also be in the navbox as well. Just because the information is on one page doesn't mean it is not allowed to be on another page. I am not making up history, im telling what the history really is when the club was founded. I am also not trying to copyright either. I only change the wording in the sentence to make it more pleasing and less confusing if someone else was reading the article. I don't change the information itself. Im also not taking credit for the work either. Do you actually have information that the Tampa team is not related to the marauders. Yes, I did become an official user. Also what was the problem with the blueclaws article. There was nothing wrong about adding J.P. Riddle Stadium were the franchise previously played under franchise history. I am a blueclaws fan by the way. Patriotsball (talk) 03:03, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Is that info from a reliable source? Can we verify it? Thanks!   — Jeff G.  ツ 03:07, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Re: John Flowers Edit

Hi Jeff,

In relation to the John flowers page I work for Mr Flowers as a staffer and was asked to add the content as it is constructive to the man himself.

How can I go about locking this page?

Kind Regards

Bryce — Preceding unsigned comment added by Treasures1950 (talkcontribs) 03:22, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for taking the time to provide me with those details! Considering the speech was to a parliment and does detail information that is in public interest, will providing the direct link to the speech on the NSW parliament's website stop this from being removed? Treasures1950 (talk) 03:38, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

No, we have another project for speeches and other writings, Wikisource (assuming you can get the writer to release the rights).   — Jeff G.  ツ 03:48, 25 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for informing me! It was useful in order not to make the same mistake again

[null] —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:05, 15 August 2011

You're welcome.   — Jeff G.  ツ 22:34, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

August 2011

Information.svg Hi Jeff G.. Thank you for your work on patrolling new pages and tagging for speedy deletion. I'm just letting you know that I declined your deletion request for File:L.PC Repair logo.jpg, a page that you tagged for speedy deletion, because the criterion you used or the reason you gave does not cover this kind of page. Please take a moment to look at the suggested tasks for patrollers and review the criteria for speedy deletion. Particularly, the section covering non-criteria. Such pages are best tagged with proposed deletion, proposed deletion for biographies of living persons, or sent to the appropriate deletion discussion. Reaper Eternal (talk) 15:50, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry if I was overzealous. The image is copyrighted and promotional, and it was used to promote article L.PC Repair (since deleted) by its uploader WP:SPA 19therealest (talk · contribs) (since blocked), which article is unlikely to be recreated with verifiable references and a valid claim to notability by Wednesday, 31 August 2011 (the time limit for WP:SD#F5). Having reviewed the pages you suggested, I find that WP:SD#G11, like all general speedy deletion criteria, can apply to any type of page, including files, per "These apply to all namespaces (and so apply to articles, redirects, user pages, talk pages, files, etc)" at WP:SD#General. Furthermore, your suggestions WP:PROD and WP:PRODBLP do not apply to files, the former and WP:FFD each take seven days, and the latter takes ten days. The whole point of my tag was immediate eligibility for deletion per WP:DENY, over and above WP:SD#F5. Thus, I reject your entire argument and boilerplate above, and ask that you please retract it forthwith (deleting this response and your Edit Summary for this edit too).   — Jeff G.  ツ 03:55, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
CSD F5 (orphaned fair-use image), which covers this type of image, had already been applied by Sfan 00 IMG (talk · contribs). CSD G11 does not apply since the image is not promotional—it is a company logo that could be used for critical discussion of the company. We have many fair-use company logo on Wikipedia being used for critical commentary on the company. WP:DENY definitely does not apply as that was an essay on dealing with trolls/long term vandals, and the uploader is certainly not a troll. In addition, when you said "delete the response and edit summary", did you mean revert? Thanks. Reaper Eternal (talk) 16:26, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Mind rebooting your Huggle session?

It seems to be encountering errors, such as reporting IPs to UAA, and you also warned him for an ENGVAR violation when he hasn't edited for over a week. Thanks. Reaper Eternal (talk) 15:32, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, I meant CMS Marine Mammals (talk · contribs), since blocked.   — Jeff G.  ツ 16:07, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
No problem, I assumed too little good faith on my part too! Reaper Eternal (talk) 16:27, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


I don't like Racist people? Do i need to feel ashamed for that? Acts are here and this Spanglej work is so clear that it doesn't need any explanation? because we are the IP 197...... About which civilism are you talking me about? I have been editing in Wikipedia before this spanglej learned his first words in school and i see that it become another ground "A private garden" goodbye — Preceding unsigned comment added by CRumens (talkcontribs) 17:48, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Which edit(s) by User:Spanglej do you think is/are most racist?   — Jeff G.  ツ 18:01, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Can someone delete my account or tell me how to do please. I will be thankful. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CRumens (talkcontribs) 17:56, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Please see WP:U#Deleting_an_account.   — Jeff G.  ツ 17:59, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

A brownie for you!

Brownie transparent.png thanks for the advice mate! :D Bobbyb373 (talk) 19:58, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks mate!   — Jeff G.  ツ 20:55, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


The statements I made in the dyscalculia article are merely "sky is blue" type statements. Do they really need to be sourced?--RJR3333 (talk) 20:48, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Yes, they need to be sourced - please see WP:RS.   — Jeff G.  ツ 20:55, 26 August 2011 (UTC)


How is the truth vandalism? What about freedom of speech. Just because a page says something doesn't mean its the truth. I was simply fixing it with my edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 22:10, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

You have made some very damning accusations in your edits to Orlando Culinary Academy. Are they available from a reliable source? Can we verify them? Thanks!   — Jeff G.  ツ 22:13, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Edith Roelker Curtis

Regarding your note on my talk page: I blanked the page (my new article, on Edith Roelker Curtis) for under a minute, as part of my process of moving in the text for the new article and replacing incorrect text that I had inadvertently pasted in. It does take a little bit of jostling around sometimes to get a new article started. You noted that this "is confusing to readers," but I had only established the article a few seconds earlier, so it's not likely that this created much confusion for visitors. Ercbio (talk) 22:25, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

You can overwrite in one edit, there is no need to blank. The second version of that article looks SO much better, well done!   — Jeff G.  ツ 22:28, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Diego Lugano Fener-> PSG

Hi Jeff,

unregistered users made "official" the transfer of Diego Lugano from Fener to PSG. This is not yet confirmed by PSG or Fenerbahçe. Lugano's agent even dismissed the news after being interviewed on RMC radio tonight (of course, does not mean the transfer is not imminent, but...) :

The page should probably be reverted for now to Since you seem to be a senior Wiki user, you may have a way to prevent vandalism... until the transfer is official... or not (Juventus is/was also interested in Lugano) Cheers

--ClemTlseUS (talk) 22:48, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

I hope this and that meet your approval.   — Jeff G.  ツ 01:56, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

History of Pakistan

The person 14.98.*.* (various IP) has disruptive editing History of Pakistan page from 11:56, 22 August 2011 I am reverting his entries while keeping other edits. You can check the history before making one sided uninformed judgement. (talk) 04:21, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Why don't you use Edit Summaries and create an account?   — Jeff G.  ツ 04:51, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Agreed. I will create an account and use edit summaries. What about 14.98.*.* ? Why is this person above Wikipedia rules ? (talk) 03:27, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
I now have an account Haft Talar. Haft Talar (talk) 03:50, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


Dude, not everything needs a damn source to be true. And how is it trivia? It's useful info towards Hannigan's personal life. Jeez, Wikipedia has WAYYYYYYYYYY too many rules. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:53, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

I assume you're writing about the info you added to Alyson Hannigan. Is that info from a reliable source? Can we verify it? If yes, please go ahead and open a discussion on Talk:Alyson Hannigan, including the reliable source(s).   — Jeff G.  ツ 17:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

Original Barnstar Hires.png The Original Barnstar
I appreciate your advices and your works, peace :-) Batchesko (talk) 15:12, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks!   — Jeff G.  ツ 17:33, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Appeal for edits related to Afghanistan

Hi, I just got a new notification in talk page that you have stated about my edit in Afghanistan article. my edit was just about the ranking of Afghanistan in number of population and the edit was that i have updated the ranking of Afghanistan and the reference is from Wikipedia it self.--Ahmadfaisalsidiqi (talk) 18:32, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Please see Wikipedia:Wikipedia is a tertiary source and WP:ASR. If the information on that other Wikipedia page (which you consider the source) has a primary or secondary source, you should be able to cite that source and eliminate the middleman (or middlepage in this case).   — Jeff G.  ツ 20:28, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

I understand that Wikipedia is not a source to be mentioned, i just updated one line that earlier it was written that Afghanistan has population of 28 million making it the 42nd most populous, now that the population is 31 million, it has been ranked as the 39th most populous. i updated this line. check here for more information about the population that Afghanistan has, and then you update it List of countries by population--Ahmadfaisalsidiqi (talk) 08:37, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Your revert

Curious as to why you did this and warned the IP; the message says that if the user agrees with the bot assessment of the article, the user can remove the message, no? Logan Talk Contributions 02:56, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Oops, sorry, those were mistakes, and I have reverted them. It would have been nice if the user had left an Edit Summary indicating agreement.   — Jeff G.  ツ 03:01, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


On the job, as usual. I appreciate the help. See ya 'round Tiderolls 05:55, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

You're welcome.   — Jeff G.  ツ 13:28, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Don't Tread On Me Brand

How can I put a neutral reference to the Don't Tread On Me company in the same way Nike has a reference in the Gadsden Flag section?

"Athletic apparel company Nike uses the image of a snake coiled around a soccer ball for an ongoing, patriotic "Don't Tread On Me" campaign in support of the United States men's national soccer team."

Donttreadonmebrand (talk) 03:39, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

You may not, because you need "to avoid subjects relating to the Don't Tread on Me meme." However, you may post referenced information to their talk pages.   — Jeff G.  ツ 15:11, 31 August 2011 (UTC)