User talk:Jeffpw/Isaäc's Memorial Page
There will be little rubs and disappointments everywhere, and we are all apt to expect too much; but then, if one scheme of happiness fails, human nature turns to another; if the first calculation is wrong, we make a second better: we find comfort somewhere. Jane Austen, Mansfield Park
This video was made for Isaac on our 15 anniversary, If anyone with more technical expertise can embed this I would profoundly grateful, Jeffpw (talk) 23:45, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- 1 To Jeff, in memory of Isaac
- 2 Thank you is insufficient
- 3 Dear Jeff,
- 4 Deepest condolences
- 5 The Best...
- 6 Thoughts and prayers
- 7 The Funeral Speech
- 8 Ways to continue to express love for someone who has passed away
- 9 Extra mile
- 10 Don't even think about it.
- 11 Thank you all for your concern
- 12 The Funeral
- 13 Dear Jeff
- 14 My condolences
To Jeff, in memory of Isaac
My heart goes out to you, and I'm sending my deepest thoughts, prayers and sympathy. May the coming months be as kind to you as possible, and I hope you will find sustenance and comfort in your fond memories of Isaac. I am so so sorry for your loss and will be thinking of you. Love, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:49, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Even though I've retired from Wikipedia, I had to log in when I heard of this. My condolences to you Jeff, as well as to your family and friends and your husband's family and friends. You are in my thoughts man and while there's just really no appropriate words for situations such as this, just know many respect and admire you and are here for you. - ✰ALLST☆R✰ echo 05:22, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
My most heartfelt condolences. Haiduc 5:06, 28 June , 2008 (UTC)
Words are so inadequate sometimes. I am so deeply sorry for your loss, Jeff. You and yours are in my heart. And please take care of yourself and let others help you get through this. — Becksguy (talk) 08:15, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
oh my god... jeff... i'm so sorry...
i just don't know what to say... i can't even begin to imagine the pain you're going through
all i know, is that from that picture I saw of you two together on wiki, you were happy together, and that's what matters. love isn't something that dies - it will carry on with you for the rest of your life. what counts is that you both loved eachother, and you will never forget that. you were happy and in love with eachother during the time you were together - something that not all couples can say they were.
Your husband loved you and wouldn't have wanted you to be unhappy, so even in this circumstance, you must carry on strong, as that is what he would have wanted, was it not?
There are no words that can describe this. But your love for Isaac will always stay with you, and most importantly, the memories you have of him. You are a beautiful person jeff (inside and out), and there are many, many people in this world that also love you - and i am one of them.
xxxx Iamandrewrice 08:55, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
I've admired your work on wikipedia from afar. We've never spoken directly but I wanted to give my condolences. I hope you find peace and happiness. Best Wishes. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 11:06, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
I don't know you, but any friend of Moni3 is a friend of mine. I send my condolences; I hope that the loving time you spent together built a foundation of strength that can help you through the darkness. – Scartol • Tok 11:29, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
While we've never worked with each other, I have a few words of wisdom: Don't be afraid to reach out to people you've only known through the internet. The roughest patch of my life was made bearable because of an online friend. As anonymous and impersonal as the internet can be, I find it can be a wonderful way to be honest and truly express oneself. Even though the people around you may seem boneheaded and arrogant in debates, there really is a lot of good out there, and it's not hard to find. Peace be with you. --Cryptic C62 · Talk 22:25, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh Jeff, I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. Don't know what to say. I'm not a praying person, but you and Isaac are both in my thoughts right now. You have my deepest sympathies, Jeff - Alison ❤ 06:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
- And Jeff, just reading what you said on Will's talk page just now, I'm glad you have Isaac at home with you right now. That was so important to me and my family, too, when my dad passed away. I know it's hard, but having him back with you - his family - is so important right now, and will mean a lot to you, too, in later times. You are both still so very much in my thoughts right now - Alison ❤ 20:12, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
My condolences, Jeff. Being the "strong, silent type", I struggle to find words to express my sympathy but I want you to know that I'm thinking of you and I'm with you in spirit. --AliceJMarkham (talk) 09:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
So hold your memories close and protect them at any cost.
07:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- My deepest and most heartfelt condolences for your loss - keep your head up. Kindest regards, east.718 at 08:14, June 30, 2008
- My deepest heartfelt condolences, Jeff. I wish you the best, and will be praying for you and isaac at my religious services this week. Shapiros10 contact meMy work 15:01, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
"Death leaves a heartache no one can heal, love leaves a memory no one can steal."
- You have no need to repay me. Don't worry about it. Sincere regards, Rudget ( ) 17:09, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Jeff, I am so sorry. I realise that nothing people can say will makes things better but I wanted you to know that your are in my thoughts. My condolences and warmest wishes. Hugs, Will (WjBscribe) 19:31, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I just now was linked to this page via someone else's talkpage that I watchlist. I wish I could say "I can't imagine how you're feeling", but I can. You and I have absolutely nothing in common other than our grief for a loved one lost. The grief is exquisite and seemingly neverending. Don't let anyone tell you to "get over it" or "move on". You get to decide that, no one else. Grieve, my friend. I don't know you, and you don't know me, but my eyes are welling up for you right now as I remember fondly and poignantly my lost relative/loved one, and my grief pales in comparison to yours as yours is closer to home than mine is. Grieve and cry and punch walls and scream and act irrational and cry some more and scream. It won't help anyone understand, and it won't help you feel any better, but you should do it anyway. I'm so very sorry for your loss. An empathetic new friend, Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:16, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- (repeated from my talkpage): :I'm glad I could help you in some trivial and small way. Be well. Be sure to eat something now and then (you won't feel like it), and be sure to sleep when you can (you won't feel like it). Isaac would want nothing less from you than to continue to let your heart beat and let your lungs breathe, and let your feet move and, eventually, let your soul sing once again. All in good time, there is no hurry. (and I'm absolutely bawling for you right now as I remember my own grief). Be well Wikiepedian...Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 23:59, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Exactly, Keeper. I also was crying. Keeper's advice is good advice. Don't let others tell you how to grieve, Jeff, or how long to grieve. It's your life and your feelings. Deal with loss the way you need to, and move on when you are ready, knowing that your love will never die. And take care of your self. When my mother was dying, my brother dragged me out of the hospital and took me to eat. Best thing he did since I had lost 17 pounds in less than one week. Don't let that happen to you. You can get sick from grief. Let others take care of you also. Many big hugs. — Becksguy (talk) 01:43, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I echo all that's been said above. I don't know you, but we share a common grief and it's of the kind that only varies in detail, not in the depth and profundity of the pain. You and Isaac look happy in that picture, and it's clear from your words that you had a happy life with him. Remember that happiness, when you can; remember what he would have wanted for you, and the things you wanted for each other; and embrace that shared vision as a tribute to him. (And now -I'm- crying, too.) Take care of yourself, as Keeper said, no matter how little importance the mundane things seem to have right now--and cherish your friends, and your family if you've got one, and all the people who love you. People do care about your loss--yes, even people who are just words on a screen, names on a website. We are here for us if you need us. You have my good thoughts...Gladys J Cortez 02:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- Please accept my deepest condolences. And please remember the words of someone who had no hatred for any man: "Blessed are they that mourn, for they shall be comforted." Ecoleetage (talk) 02:31, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
The Fat Man is on your side, Jeffpw. The singular love of a best friend/partner/mate is not easy to come by, and I cannot pretend to imagine the loss you're enduring right now. But do look around and see the love that remains, love for you, love for the departed, love for life itself; you can even feel it on this page. Be good to yourself, The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 03:06, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Jeff dear man, this is written by one who knows and loves you and knew and loved Isaac as well. All your wikipedia friends who intuit that you are a person worthy of their respect and utmost sympathy are certainly right on--- though I may add that I have seen you, Jeff, with superhuman love being as dedicated to and supportive of your darling husband, through thick and thin, as anyone has ever been for a beloved. Bless you, with all my heart. BearCA Bearca (talk) 00:05, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you is insufficient
The beautiful words I have received here have given me so much comfort, you cannot imagine. I am still in a shock stand, but I am able to take in what you all have said. Later, when there is time, I will thank everybody individually. I am sometimes cynical about the Project, but this experience has shown me that through our collaborative working, we have built a bond, and are a sort of family. Thank you for being my internet family. It means more to me than you will ever know. The funeral is on Thursday, and I am sure that it will be beautiful. I love you all for being there for me in this impossible time. Jeffpw (talk) 05:59, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
"A brief candle; both ends burning
Jeff, why don't you post that video here. I saw it and it's so very very moving. It shows your love for Isaäc in a transcendent way. Music has always connected with the heart more than the mind. Share the love you have for your husband and let people grieve with you. You will always have an Isaäc shaped hole in your heart but sharing that loss will make it easier to bear. I think everyone would be honored to see the pictures. Don't feel like you are imposing. — With love, Becksguy (talk) 23:35, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
- I as well offer my deepest sympathies for your loss. We have not alays seen eye to eye, but that's just discussion. Please take care of yourself and come back when and if your feel like it. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 02:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't know you, but I saw your post on Keeper's talk page and followed it here. While I know that every situation is different and I cannot begin to imagine what you're feeling, I wanted to share something that comforted me at this time a few years ago. A golden heart stopped beating,
Hard working hands to rest.
God broke our hearts
to prove to us,
He only takes the best.
Take the time you need to grieve and know you'll always carry Isaac in your heart and memory. Do what he'd want you to do. Feel free to drop me a note if there's anything at all I can do for you. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 01:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Thoughts and prayers
Jeff, words are poor at times like this, but they are all we have in this medium. Just to let you know that your loss will be in the thoughts of my family. Trusting that with support from every area of your life you will be able to move forwards, cherishing the warmest memories of your husband in your heart. Sincerest best wishes.06:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
The Funeral Speech
Good morning. As most of you know, I am Jeff, and Isaac was my beloved husband. I know he would be happy to see so many people here who cared enough to wish him bon voyage on his journey away from us.
I came to Nederland in 1992 an extremely unhappy man. Life had not worked out according to my plans (when does it ever cooperate?), and thought a holiday in Holland would cheer me up. It didn't. I was even more unhappy, and was about to return to California. Then, on an evening at a cafe in the Kinkerstraat, I happened to notice somebody pass by me and smile shyly. I was immediately struck by his shyness and his beautiful blue eyes. I smiled back, but we didn't speak. This happened twice more, until he summoned his courage to actually say hello.
There is a cliché called "love at first sight". That was the case for us. From the moment I saw him I fell in love and my heart began to mend. My usual cynicism melted away, and I felt my heart enlarge from a seed to an oak in full glory. That was the power and magic of this man. His charisma, his sensitivity and his beauty, both inner and outer, had the power to transform whatever he touched.
I learned so many things about Isaac in the 16 years we spent together: He was an artist; he was an intellectual; he was a philosopher; a Philanthropist. And, when need be, he was the rock of Gibraltar. His quiet strength went unnoticed by many, but strong he was. When he set his mind to something, he virtually always achieved his goal.
As an artist, I am still in awe of all he created. Costumes for theater productions; clothing for family and friends, and in his last year, beautiful silk cushions in the form of American patchwork quilts that he designed and sewed himself. He even went so far as to learn HTML code so that he could build his own website to promote his work. His website will stand as a memorial to his manifold artistic contributions to our world.
As an intellectual, I am still amazed at the variety of subjects he could claim expertise in. If one had questions about art, be it 16th Century painting or the work of modern artists, he had the answers, and strong opinions of the work and artist. These opinions he could defend with rational arguments as to why he felt as he did. Although the Dutch educational system in the 1950s did not afford him the opportunity of pursuing a University degree, this did not stop him. He studied on his own, and mastered every subject which interested him. I marvel at his capacity for learning, and his everlasting quest to absorb as much as he could what the great thinkers of the world had to offer him.
As I mentioned, he was also a philosopher. Though an atheist, his interest in religion of all sorts, and the thoughts of the great Philosophers through the ages, fascinated him. He had the Bible, the Torah and the Koran side by side on the bookshelf, and I often saw him thumbing through them in an effort to find an answer to a question that puzzled him. He also read all of the works of Bertrand Russell, and could with ease explain to me the thoughts and different opinions of Socrates, Plato and Aristotle. I thought of him as my living, breathing encyclopedia.
As a Philanthropist, Isaac was convinced that we, as citizens of a shared world, had to help each other. What follows is a list of the charities which Isaac supported: The International Rescue committee for Darfur; Artsen Zonder Grenzen; Greenpeace; The committee to rescue Iranian gay refugees; Human Rights Watch; the AIDS Fond; the United Jewish Appeal; Amnesty International; Cordaid Kinder Stem; the United Nations Food Bank; UNICEF and the Amsterdam Film Museum. Isaac and I decided together one day that though Tithing was an archaic religious construct, the idea behind it was worthy, and as such we gave 10% of our salaries to charities we thought would help to improve the world for the most vulnerable.
In short, Isaac could be called a Renaissance Man. He was consumed with passion for all aspects of life, both large and small, and needed no formal training to master any subject.
A few short thoughts about Isaac which will always stand out in my mind: our beautiful garden, which he lovingly tended throughout the year. It is in its full glory now, and stands as a monument to both his artistry and knowledge of botany. I promise you, Isaac, I will care for it as lovongly as you did. His love and passion for Ella Fitzgerald and Jane Austen. His determination to see every Oscar nominated film each year in order to judge for himself what film should be given a prize.
Last year, when the famous photographer Spencer Tunik came to Amsterdam to do one of his series of public nude photographs, Isaac was one of the first to sign up as a model. Though his body had been damaged by his long illness, he had not a moments hesitation about disrobing in public and posing for posterity. After all, he said, we are creating art, and the human body comes in all forms. I admired him deeply for that, and it gave me the courage to follow his example and pose along side of him and 5000 others on a busy Amsterdam street. It was a glorious morning I will never forget.
In terms of his illness, Isaac was a fighter who never gave up. Though admitted to the hospital more than 20 times, sometimes in critical condition, he always said, "when I come home I have so much work to do". He never doubted that he would bounce back and resume all of his interests. I have never seen a patient who was so determined to battle his disease, and who did so with such remarkable ingenuity. As a nurse, I am impressed and inspired by this courage.
Isaac was also a man of quiet kindness. One example: though my father and I do not get along, Isaac secretly arranged each year for my father to receive a birthday present, a father's day present and a Christmas gift. Always with my name on the card. Isaac felt it imperative that the band between my father and myself, though strained, should remain intact. And he managed this.
Isaac was also enormously proud of the fact that Holland was the first nation on earth to allow people of the same gender to marry, and marry we did. Three times, in fact. First a civil union, then the official marriage. Shortly thereafter we became the first gay divorce in Holland, but we never for a day stopped thinking of each other and caring. So much so that we married again. There is a beautiful song called "Love is wonderful the second time around". I suppose one could say we broke that record.
In this most difficult of times, it is the small mercies that God has shown us which give me the greatest solace. The loving and professional care he received from the nurses and doctors in the Intensive care unit of Slootervaart Ziekenhuis; the unity our family has shown in the face of this tragedy. The fact that Isaac and I could say goodbye before he was sedated for his final days.
Isaac, the world without you is a colder, darker place. I see no more stars, and I no longer feel the sun. I no longer believe in heroes or miracles. I am frightened, bereft, and cannot see the light at the end of the tunnel. But I know you would not want me to feel this way. To honor you, and honor the love we shared, my life will continue as it was before you died. Ella and Louis receive the same love and attention they had while you were here with us, and my work will go on as we planned it together. This is the last gift I can give to you, my darling, and I hope I can remain worthy of your respect. Rest in peace, my angel, and I know I will see you again. Jeffpw (talk) 08:52, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- Jeff, that is a beautiful tribute to Isaac, the life he lived, and the love you shared. Aleta Sing 09:45, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think we ever encountered, Jeff, but my thoughts are with you. :( :( :( —Giggy 10:37, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- You were fortunate to have had Isaac in your life, but clearly he was also fortunate to have had you in his as well. I never met him, but it's clear from your moving and eloquent tribute that Isaac was surely an amazing person. Again, Jeff, my thoughts are with you through this painful time.Gladys J Cortez 11:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- As tears stream down my face, I want to express to you how utterly beautiful your tribute to your beloved Isaac is. It seems your life was unequivocally brightened for having him be a part of it. You are truly blessed to have found such love, and it seems he was truly blessed to have found you. LaraLove|Talk 04:38, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Ways to continue to express love for someone who has passed away
Dear Jeff, Some of us have also experienced the death of loved ones. I hope you dont mind my sharing with you that there are ways to continue to express your love for someone who has passed away. In almost all religions, giving to the poor in the name of the loved one missed is considered an act of love very acceptable to God. Praying for the person's soul is also considered an act of love very acceptable to God. Giving something up that is valuable to you for the benefit of another (making a sacrifice) is another acceptable act of love. I dont know what religion you are, if any, but I experienced someone I loved one day in what I would call a "spiritual hug" that went through my whole soul and reduced me to sobbing tears of joy because it was as if she (my grandmother) had just told me she was still here and doing fine. I hope that is the case with your loved one and that you will find all the ways to express your love, which Saint Paul says remains. NancyHeise (talk) 16:34, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Jeffpw, we've interacted a few times before, and in those interactions you've been a good and thoughtful person, both to me and to other people, and I just wanted to say that a kind person like you does not deserve to go through the trouble you currently are going through now, and it's times like this where people should and will go an extra mile to help you. Best wishes and kind regards. Acalamari 21:36, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
- Jeff, I am beyond sorry to hear about Isaac. :-( Please accept my deepest condolences. Just know you are in my thoughts, and do not hesitate to ping me for anything you might need. Love, Raystorm (¿Sí?) 23:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Don't even think about it.
Not a solution, Jeff. Absolutely not a solution. I don't know you. You don't know me. Absolutely not a solution. Take pills, hit things, swear and curse, hit people, rob a store. Scream. ABSOLUTELY NOT A SOLUTION. Oh, dear God, not a solution. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:26, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- I need to go home (my wife will be very upset if I'm not home soon - I was due to be home about an hour ago. My first stop tomorrow morning is your talkpage. I will post my god dam phone number if I need to. You are so much more important than this fucking website Jeff. Get some sleep please. You have had an excrutiating week, and it's gonna get worse, but you are a strong person, and you will be Okay. Demons be damned, jeff, you are gonna be ok. Believe me, as someone that has experienced the exact same day that you are experiencing right now, you are gonna be ok. Say it out loud Jeff. You are gonna be ok....Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 01:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- I am so sorry for your loss. Please do not do anything to harm yourself. You will make it through this. --Meldshal42 (talk) 01:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- What they said. You realize, I presume, how un-supportive Isaac would be of any decision involving harm to yourself, yes? You're not alone, here, and you're not the first to be here. The best way to honor his memory is to live on and make each day a testament to the impact he had on you - not to bail. Read this page again, and its kind thoughts and wishes of hope and peace - it'll be all good, someday. Not tomorrow, not soon - but someday. And if things get really, really rough - that's when you call Keeper. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 01:50, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Or Aleta. I'm glad we talked tonight, Jeff. Take things one day at a time, and when that's too much, one hour, even one minute at a time. Get through this minute, this hour, then another one, and then another one at a time. Aleta Sing 02:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Jeff, please write, Love, S— Preceding unsigned comment added by SandyGeorgia (talk • contribs)
- Oh, god, Jeff. ::::Hugs:::: Please, hang in there. Speaking from the same place, thirteen years later, hang in there. It's the hardest thing you'll ever do but I promise, you will be glad you did. My e-mail is enabled if you need a crying-shoulder. Gladys J Cortez 06:16, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you all for your concern
I am ok, and will be using the phone more in place of the internet. The last two nights I have been alone with the coffin, and it can be unnerving at times. I promise I will be making calls tonight to my family (Wiki and otherwise) until it's time for bed. God, death can really throw you for a loop, can't it? Coffee now. I just woke up, and feel like Neely O'Hara must have felt in the morning before she took the green pill. Jeffpw (talk) 07:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- Good to hear. I'm working my way slowly thru my first cup of joe as well. Also very glad to hear you aren't made of granite. Makes a good countertop, makes for poor circulation though. Keeper | 76 | Disclaimer 13:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi Jeff, I just wanted to let you know that people made of granite aren't very interesting. It's much easier to hug someone who is real, and here is a GIANT HUG for you. I found my way here through watching Sandy and Moni's talk pages. I'm so sorry for your loss, but I have to believe that as much as you loved each other, somewhere, somehow, Isaac is watching over you. It's a testament to your love for him that you've gotten so many people who don't know you to grieve with you. Someday, when the sharpest edge of the pain has dulled, if you do want to improve an area of WP in Isaac's memory, please let me know. I would be honored to help. Karanacs (talk) 13:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
- My sincerest condolonces, please know my thoughts and prayers are with you. I hope this thought is helpful (it is to me): shared joys multiply, shared sorrows divide. Please let me know if I can be of any help too, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 19:24, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
We have buried my beloved Isaac, and it was a beautiful service. Everything went exactly as planned, and I was amazed at how many people were there. Strange as this may sound, this day was the most beautiful of my life, with the exception of my wedding day.
In the Jewish tradition, there is a a custom called Shiva. Though Isaac was Christian, I am Jewish and considered this week to be my period of sitting Shiva. Shiva is a week of intense mourning; then life must go on. As such, tomorrow, this page will be archived and I will slowly resume my normal editing here. I will also be returning to work on Monday.
I wish to thank everybody who has comforted me at this time. I attempted to personally thank each individual, but it is possible I forgot a few in the chaos of this week. Please forgive me if I have done this, and know your kindness will never be forgotten, and gave me the strength to see this week through to completion.
I appreciate and have come to love my Wikipedia colleagues/family through this tragedy. You have shown me the best side of humanity, and helped me see that the world can be the paradise God envisioned for us.
- Peace be with you Jeff. I am glad you were able to draw some comfort from today. As ever, my warmest best wishes to you.
12:44, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- Jeff, I am Jewish too, and have sat shiva many times. Even though I am very young, I know how hard it is to deal with losing a loved one. Shapiros10 contact meMy work 12:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- Jeff, I am glad very that the service went as you wanted, and hope you can find peace in the coming days and months as you adjust to a new state of life. Continue to lean on your friends and let them comfort you. Remember your love, and let that carry your forward. Aleta Sing 14:48, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- Jeff, I am Jewish too, and have sat shiva many times. Even though I am very young, I know how hard it is to deal with losing a loved one. Shapiros10 contact meMy work 12:58, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I also echo the above and am immensely glad that you seem to have moved more toward acceptance, Jeff. I'm glad that the funeral was beautiful and helped you. Think of us as having been there virtually. No one can know the depth of your grief and loss, but you and Issac. But I think we all here have a clue, and grieve with you. Be well, Jeff, and take care of yourself. With love and warm hugs. — Becksguy (talk) 18:19, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
- I've been thinking about you all day, Jeff. Be well. Much love, Raystorm (¿Sí?) 21:02, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
When you are sorrowful look again in your heart,