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Hello — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spoopy 1915 (talkcontribs) 06:20, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Thanks for all the excellent work you are doing :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:24, 17 November 2016 (UTC)


A barnstar for you![edit]

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For taking care of vandalism. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 05:34, 26 January 2017 (UTC)


Cochrane Review List - Women's health[edit]

Hi Jen! I'm an intern for Kentucky Science & Technology Corporation. We're currently trying to expand articles related to women's health. I would like to create another category on the review list for women's health. Is that okay? Please let me know on my talk page! Sbbarker19 (talk) 14:30, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

I also work on Women's health articles. If you need help or want to work on an article together, let me know. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS)   22:52, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
Thanks Sbbarker19 for the message. I was just noticing the excellent work that you did on the page to organize the HIV/AIDS reviews. I really appreciate you taking the time to do this. I have also been plugging away at a few different categories. Where would you like to put the women's health Cochrane Reviews? In a subheading (like you did with HIV/AIDS)? Thanks again for the message! JenOttawa (talk) 02:42, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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For all the behind the scenes supervision you provided to the medical students at Queen's University (Ontario, Canada) on the 16 medicine-related articles they undertook to improve. David notMD (talk) 13:06, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
Hi David notMD, Thank you for the kind note and Barn Star. I greatly appreciate all the time you took to help with the project as well! JenOttawa (talk) 03:43, 27 November 2017 (UTC)


Greetings[edit]

I have been so impressed with the work of students in Project Medicine. I would like to encourage them with more barnstars. Can you forward me the usernames of those students you think deserve recognition. I've set up a page for me to work from here. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS)   23:05, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Merry Christmas![edit]

Hello, JenOttawa! Thank you for your work to maintain and improve Wikipedia! Wishing you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
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The food allergy articles[edit]

We intersected when you were advising med students on various topics, including the Peanut allergy article. I've taken up trying to improve all the individual food allergy articles - starting with egg allergy and milk allergy - with intent to get some to GA and others at least no longer Start-class. The usual suspects (Doc James, others) put an oar in the waters now and then. There is a lot of allergy mythology out there. And some interesting facts. Anyway, hope you find 2018 a good Wikipedia year. David notMD (talk) 12:07, 17 January 2018 (UTC)

Hello, David notMD, thanks for the note. It is nice to hear from you. I think it is a very worthwhile endeavour to update the food allergy articles. I am continuing my work with Cochrane, plugging away through a large list of Cochrane Reviews and finding a home for them in Wiki articles. I am also trying to recruit new editors to contribute to the medical articles on WP, and touching base with other Cochrane editing initiatives. In terms of the edu work, there is an active list of medical school teaching initiatives at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Classes_editing if you are interested. I am not involved in any at the moment, but I try to follow the pages and contribute when I can.
Thanks again for touching base! Best of luck with your allergy editing initiatives. If you need another set of eyes on them, I am happy to follow. JenOttawa (talk) 16:09, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
I am OK with two of those three, and will add more on PUFA, including another Cochrane review (Gunaratne 2015). I deleted Yepes-Nunez for being about relatively rare class of allergy (fruit) but more for only including two RCTs. David notMD (talk) 12:34, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
Added three more PUFA refs to cover during pregnancy and lactation. David notMD (talk) 19:41, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
David notMD Thanks for catching my typo- the double Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).

I notices that there are several Cochrane reviews missing from this list. Is the list updated regularly (eg, annually?), or are users supposed to add new articles in there themselves?

(eg, I notice there is no section for ocular/orbital conditions).

References

Cheers Jkokavec (talk) 02:08, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Cochrane reviews list[edit]

Hi user:JenOttawa, would you be kind enough to tell me how the Cochrane reviews list works? [1]

I notice that there are several Cochrane reviews missing from this list. Is the list updated regularly (eg, annually?), or are users supposed to add new articles in there themselves?

(eg, I notice there is no section for ocular/orbital conditions).

References

Cheers Jkokavec (talk) 02:09, 18 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the message Jkokavec. I have been at a Wikipedia conference and missed replying to this earlier in the week. I am in the process of developing a more accurate means to collect Cochrane reviews that may be used as evidence in Wikipedia articles. The list at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Cochrane/Cochrane_Review_List is current up to August 2017. I am hoping to have a coder help me clean it up asap. In the meantime, I am happy to create a section on ocular/orbital conditions. You are always welcome to add other reviews as you see fit. Some groups are using the collections as a starting place to direct volunteers (or at editathons) who are interested in editing Wikipedia. If you have any suggestions or feedback I would greatly appreciate it! Thank you again, Jenny JenOttawa (talk) 01:44, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors![edit]

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Wiki Project Med Foundation logo.svg The 2017 Cure Award
In 2017 you were one of the top ~250 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs.

Thanks again :-) -- Doc James along with the rest of the team at Wiki Project Med Foundation 02:57, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouragement and leadership Doc James! JenOttawa (talk) 01:52, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

Account creator[edit]

Hi, I'm just letting you know that I have removed the account creator permission from your account as the recent creation of the event coordinator user group makes that permission preferred. If you need the permission to create accounts in the future for an event, you can request it at Wikipedia:Requests for permissions/Event coordinator a few days before the event is slated to begin. TonyBallioni (talk) 20:43, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Hello TonyBallioni, thank you for the message. I will definitely need this in September.JenOttawa (talk) 00:00, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

developing training programs for new editors[edit]

a short video
a document formatted to print to paper

I read over the training program you are developing at User:JenOttawa/Introduction to Medical Editing: Cheat Sheet. This looks great!

The major challenge here is that since 2001 Wikipedia has established no popular or broadly praised online training system. At various times various groups have invested hundreds of thousands of US$ in trying to design a process. Countless volunteer hours have gone into this. Some processes are more popular but nothing is an obvious recommendation.

Your guide is the most practical and direct explanation that I have seen to target academic writers with an invitation and instructions to edit Wikipedia. It seems good and it seems fine to share.

I see that this guide includes a link to the dashboard training. I am also here sharing a video and a document. What these three other training materials have in common is that they offer little practical advice and instead express abstract concepts and do some socializing. Personally, when I do Wikipedia outreach, I emphasize how new Wikipedia editors should learn to talk about Wikipedia with other people on and off-wiki, and de-emphasize understanding technical aspects of Wikipedia. My system has a lot of faults, and although I have presented it to hundreds of people, I cannot say that it has any better outcome than other ideas in circulation. My theory is that if people feel good about editing Wikipedia then they will overcome technical barriers. Alternatively, if they only learn the technical process, then they may not come to feel good about editing until and unless they later have some social experiences. If a person's time is scarce then at least sometimes guiding them to a positive perspective quickly can be a more effective start than giving them a skill set without social context.

I am not sure which way is the right way! Almost all training programs attempt their own system. Yours is off to a more developed start than many other programs reach in their finished state. If I were to suggest any changes it would be what I recommend for almost any writing - make it shorter and make it even easier to understand. It is already very good. Blue Rasberry (talk) 17:29, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 12 – 28 May 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 12 – 28 May 2018
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ScienceSource funded[edit]

The Wikimedia Foundation announced full funding of the ScienceSource grant proposal from ContentMine on May 18. See the ScienceSource Twitter announcement and 60 second video.

A medical canon?

The proposal includes downloading 30,000 open access papers, aiming (roughly speaking) to create a baseline for medical referencing on Wikipedia. It leaves open the question of how these are to be chosen.

The basic criteria of WP:MEDRS include a concentration on secondary literature. Attention has to be given to the long tail of diseases that receive less current research. The MEDRS guideline supposes that edge cases will have to be handled, and the premature exclusion of publications that would be in those marginal positions would reduce the value of the collection. Prophylaxis misses the point that gate-keeping will be done by an algorithm.

Two well-known but rather different areas where such considerations apply are tropical diseases and alternative medicine. There are also a number of potential downloading troubles, and these were mentioned in Issue 11. There is likely to be a gap, even with the guideline, between conditions taken to be necessary but not sufficient, and conditions sufficient but not necessary, for candidate papers to be included. With around 10,000 recognised medical conditions in standard lists, being comprehensive is demanding. With all of these aspects of the task, ScienceSource will seek community help.

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Apologies[edit]

For this[1] Hit the wrong button. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 15:57, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for the note! JenOttawa (talk) 17:11, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 13 – 29 May 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 13 – 29 May 2018
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Respecting MEDRS

Facto Post enters its second year, with a Cambridge Blue (OK, Aquamarine) background, a new logo, but no Cambridge blues. On-topic for the ScienceSource project is a project page here. It contains some case studies on how the WP:MEDRS guideline, for the referencing of articles at all related to human health, is applied in typical discussions.

Close to home also, a template, called {{medrs}} for short, is used to express dissatisfaction with particular references. Technology can help with patrolling, and this Petscan query finds over 450 articles where there is at least one use of the template. Of course the template is merely suggesting there is a possible issue with the reliability of a reference. Deciding the truth of the allegation is another matter.

This maintenance issue is one example of where ScienceSource aims to help. Where the reference is to a scientific paper, its type of algorithm could give a pass/fail opinion on such references. It could assist patrollers of medical articles, therefore, with the templated references and more generally. There may be more to proper referencing than that, indeed: context, quite what the statement supported by the reference expresses, prominence and weight. For that kind of consideration, case studies can help. But an algorithm might help to clear the backlog.

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Cochrane - Wikipedia project[edit]

Hi,

I am the Information Specialist for the Cochrane Acute Respiratory Infections group. Our group is about to start a project to see if we can improve the impact and visibility of our Cochrane reviews.

We are currently still in the planning stage of the project and thought it could be useful to contact you and see if you have tips or advice about the best way to integrate Cochrane reviews with Wikipedia.

I would be happy to chat via Skype at some point if this would be easier to explain what we are doing.

Regards

Justin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justin M Clark (talkcontribs) 05:24, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

Hi @Justin M Clark:, thank you for the message and for touching base. I would be happy to touch base about the Cochrane-Wikipedia partnership and learn more about your ideas of ways to engage with Wikipedia and share Cochrane Evidence. I will send you an email so we can coordinate our schedules.
Thanks again,
JenOttawa (talk) 15:54, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 14 – 21 July 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 14 – 21 July 2018
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Plugging the gaps – Wikimania report

Officially it is "bridging the gaps in knowledge", with Wikimania 2018 in Cape Town paying tribute to the southern African concept of ubuntu to implement it. Besides face-to-face interactions, Wikimedians do need their power sources.

Hackathon mentoring table wiring

Facto Post interviewed Jdforrester, who has attended every Wikimania, and now works as Senior Product Manager for the Wikimedia Foundation. His take on tackling the gaps in the Wikimedia movement is that "if we were an army, we could march in a column and close up all the gaps". In his view though, that is a faulty metaphor, and it leads to a completely false misunderstanding of the movement, its diversity and different aspirations, and the nature of the work as "fighting" to be done in the open sector. There are many fronts, and as an eventualist he feels the gaps experienced both by editors and by users of Wikimedia content are inevitable. He would like to see a greater emphasis on reuse of content, not simply its volume.

If that may not sound like radicalism, the Decolonizing the Internet conference here organized jointly with Whose Knowledge? can redress the picture. It comes with the claim to be "the first ever conference about centering marginalized knowledge online".

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About Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Cochrane update[edit]

Hello, about the update list, I am not sure about the old edition. Do I have to replace the old citation or add the new one next to the old? would you please clarify this point in the main topic too. sorry for disturbance Thanks for your continous support

Facto Post – Issue 15 – 21 August 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 15 – 21 August 2018
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Neglected diseases
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What's a Neglected Disease?, ScienceSource video

To grasp the nettle, there are rare diseases, there are tropical diseases and then there are "neglected diseases". Evidently a rare enough disease is likely to be neglected, but neglected disease these days means a disease not rare, but tropical, and most often infectious or parasitic. Rare diseases as a group are dominated, in contrast, by genetic diseases.

A major aspect of neglect is found in tracking drug discovery. Orphan drugs are those developed to treat rare diseases (rare enough not to have market-driven research), but there is some overlap in practice with the WHO's neglected diseases, where snakebite, a "neglected public health issue", is on the list.

From an encyclopedic point of view, lack of research also may mean lack of high-quality references: the core medical literature differs from primary research, since it operates by aggregating trials. This bibliographic deficit clearly hinders Wikipedia's mission. The ScienceSource project is currently addressing this issue, on Wikidata. Its Wikidata focus list at WD:SSFL is trying to ensure that neglect does not turn into bias in its selection of science papers.

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Hello[edit]

Hello Jenny, Thank you for replying and honoring my request to be a Wikipedia- Cochrane volunteer. I feel so happy and privileged to do this- promoting access to evidence Could you send me a guide for new medical editors for Wikipedia? Am I to go through some specific tutorials/ video on the Wikipedia? Thank you once again. Adeola Ajayi Dellyjacobs (talk) 08:42, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

Hello Jenny,

Thank you for replying and honouring my request to be a Wikipedia- Cochrane volunteer. I feel so happy and privileged to do this- promoting access to evidence Could you send me a guide for new medical editors for Wikipedia? Am I to go through some specific tutorials/ video on the Wikipedia? Thank you once again.

Adeola Ajayi — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dellyjacobs (talkcontribs) 09:45, 28 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the message @Dellyjacobs:. I am sorry that I am delayed getting back to you. I will send you an email with a list of learning resources. If you are looking for a brief overview of how to edit, please check out my "medical editing cheatsheet": [2] Thank you again (and thanks for your patience). JenOttawa (talk) 23:45, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Event coordinator granted[edit]

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After reviewing your request for the "eventcoordinator" permission, I have enabled the flag on your account. Keep in mind these things:

  • The event coordinator right removes the limit on the maximum number of new accounts that can be created in a 24-hour period.
  • The event coordinator right allows you to temporarily add the "confirmed" permission to newly created accounts. You should not grant this for more than 10 days.
  • The event coordinator right is not a status symbol. If it remains unused, it is likely to be removed. Abuse of the event coordinator right will result in its removal by an administrator.
  • Please note, if you were previously a member of the "account creator" group, your flag may have been converted to this new group.

If you no longer require the right, let me know, or ask any other administrator. Drop a note on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of the event coordinator right. Happy editing! — xaosflux Talk 15:45, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello @Xaosflux:, thank you for the note and for your assistance with this application. I think also having the ability to add the confirmed user permission to newly created accounts will be very helpful as many medical articles are blocked from editing for brand new users. I will do some digging to figure out how to do this before I get up in front of the room! Thank you again. Jenny JenOttawa (talk) 16:04, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
From a user page, you can click on the sidebar "User rights management" , or go to Special:Userrights and put in a name. Keep in mind the EVC policy says that if you set 'confirmed' on someone you must set the "expiration" to bet no more than 10 days (by then if they make some edits they should be autoconfirmed). Good luck with your event, — xaosflux Talk 16:57, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you @Xaosflux: this is very helpful. JenOttawa (talk) 23:42, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Event coordinator granted[edit]

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After reviewing your request for the "eventcoordinator" permission, I have enabled the flag on your account. Keep in mind these things:

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  • Please note, if you were previously a member of the "account creator" group, your flag may have been converted to this new group.

If you no longer require the right, let me know, or ask any other administrator. Drop a note on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of the event coordinator right. Happy editing! — xaosflux Talk 18:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Your access was extended through the end of the year. Good luck with your events. — xaosflux Talk 18:23, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello @Xaosflux:, thank you for the note and for reviewing my request. I am sorry that it has taken me a few days to reply, I was offline from the 19-21st. I look forward to continuing this work. This permission is very helpful for helping new editors make a smooth entrance into the world of Wikipedia editing. We greatly appreciated it at our event. I only auto-confirmed one person (for 10 days) and I created about 8 accounts as we were over our 6 new account per IP address max at the event. It was great to be able to smoothly deal with this. Have a great day! JenOttawa (talk) 09:03, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Facto Post – Issue 16 – 30 September 2018[edit]

Facto Post – Issue 16 – 30 September 2018
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The science publishing landscape
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In an ideal world ... no, bear with your editor for just a minute ... there would be a format for scientific publishing online that was as much a standard as SI units are for the content. Likewise cataloguing publications would not be onerous, because part of the process would be to generate uniform metadata. Without claiming it could be the mythical free lunch, it might be reasonably be argued that sandwiches can be packaged much alike and have barcodes, whatever the fillings.

The best on offer, to stretch the metaphor, is the meal kit option, in the form of XML. Where scientific papers are delivered as XML downloads, you get all the ingredients ready to cook. But have to prepare the actual meal of slow food yourself. See Scholarly HTML for a recent pass at heading off XML with HTML, in other words in the native language of the Web.

The argument from real life is a traditional mixture of frictional forces, vested interests, and the classic irony of the principle of unripe time. On the other hand, discoverability actually diminishes with the prolific progress of science publishing. No, it really doesn't scale. Wikimedia as movement can do something in such cases. We know from open access, we grok the Web, we have our own horse in the HTML race, we have Wikidata and WikiJournal, and we have the chops to act.

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Thank you[edit]

Hi Jennie,

thank you for the course

Best, Max

Siebmax (talk) 14:14, 2 October 2018 (UTC) Max

Hi JEnny :)

COchrane

JenOttawa (talk) 14:12, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

CarloFirst (talk) 14:15, 2 October 2018 (UTC) carlofirst

Hello[edit]

Hi Jenny

I'm really excited to be joining you in this training programme.

Thanks KarenMegranahan (talk) 14:14, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Hi Jenny. It is Meisser. I am excited to learn how to edit Wikipedia! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MeisserMadera (talkcontribs) 14:11, 2 October 2018 (UTC)

Help on launching french Cochrane-wikipedia initiative[edit]

Dear Jen,

We are thinking at Cochrane France about transposing the initiative to french wikipedia articles. I start to have contacts with Jennifer Dawson and James Heilman. I was wondering how did you construct this page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Medicine/Cochrane/Cochrane_Review_List ? I'm not clear if the list contain only review that are considered "wiki compatible"?

For the update bot page, it seems that it would be feasible to have it in french.

I would like to have some feedback and advice about your organization with volunteer, and if you used the SEED tool.

Many thanks, Best, Sylvain

Sylvain.juchet (talk) 08:22, 17 October 2018 (UTC)