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Reversion in TAP Portugal

I don't know what kind of reversion you may have made in TAP Portugal page according to your justification, since TAP Portugal doesn't fly to Tel Aviv, nor any other city in Asia. Nupest 0:10, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Finding reliable source

Hi jetstremar I am runaparvin you told me if I want to add anything I have to add a reliable source but how can I add a reliable source changing the destinations? Please help me adding a reliable source but I can't understand why not you changing the page of us-bangla airlines.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Runaparvin (talkcontribs)

Now 18th worst disaster

And still the 4th worst *at the time*. Please read the commit / diff information "Jetstreamer" before reverting changes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Voigty (talkcontribs)

hi, here is the info for KLM year round Bilbao service

Air France-KLM 2014-15 winter schedule (26 October 2014 – 28 March 2015) KLM continue to serve the routes launched this summer: to Bilbao (Spain) and Zagreb (Croatia).— Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

Re: Ethiopian Airlines accidents and incidents

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Re: 1979 Dniprodzerzhynsk mid-air collisіon

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Aeroflot 593

Hello Jetstreamer: Wow you caught me as Im about to go get some sleep :) so I guess to the point, lol..ok Aeroflot 593, about the Boeing 737 next to it, I'm agreeing with you, not 100 percent but certainly enough to tell you I see your point, and you are probably correct. About listing the Jessica Dubroff article there, I put an explanation as why she-or should I say, it-should be on the "see also" list right next to the link itself. I mean to me they were similar because they were both instances in which children were in the cockpit during a tragic circumstance. Anyways, take care, God bless you!...Antonio AeroCrazyLot Martin (loser's talk page) 13:55, August 30, 2016 (UTC)

Air Namibia accra/Lagos routing

Please note that Air Namibia 'resumes' the Accra route which they've abandoned in 2013. The Lagos-leg, however is new, therefore 'begins'. Please correct this.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bundubear (talkcontribs) 29 August 2017 (UTC)


I thought Aeromexico Connect took over Aeromexico’s main Monterrey-Las Vegas route. My apologies.

Robbie2448 Talk 12:21, 21 October 2017 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.15 16 November 2018

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Air New Zealand Flight 901

What about the accident report? That has all the information about the crew members. Tigerdude9 (talk) 12:57, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Surinam Airways

Sorry, but I don't know how to reference. It says on there website that they are going to a 787 and buy 2 737 max 8s. So there you go Iam2yearsold (talk) 16:34, 23 November 2018 (UTC)

Indian Airports

Hi Jetstreamer. Indian airports by far are the most difficult to maintain esp when users are hell bound in moving the page to add the word international and also to state that the airport is international as soon as the Indian government grants the tag. Shouldn't any airport first become a customs airport and then international? I raised the issue of the naming of airports a while back at WT:AIRPORTS hoping to have a good long discussion, but that seem to have just not interested all the users. But the issue with stating if an airport is international also exists. I can't entirely blame users here, it's how the Airports Authority of India projects these. Let me know your thoughts.  LeoFrank  Talk 18:06, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Airlines and destinations tables in airport articles

Hi Jetstreamer, hope you are fine. We had our disagreements in the past but I definitelly find you a colleague editor to turn to when I need advice over issues regarding airlines and airports cause I appreciate very much the work you have been doing here on the project. Now I definitelly need your advice. Its about the tables in airport articles. I don´t know if you are aware of what is going on at Talk:Sofia Airport. The article was proposed for Featured article and in the process editors came with strong conviction the Airlines and destinations tables at airport articles brake the WP:RECENTISM, WP:NOTDIR, WP:PROMO, WP:NOTTRAVEL rules. The problem is that if the table gets removed there, it will open way for being removed from all airport articles. That will totally change the airport articles alltogether. In my view, this is a decition that defines the style Wikipedia is opting for. Having the tables definitelly makes Wikipedia a modern updated user-oriented informative online encyclopedia, while removing them brings Wikipedia back to what classic encyclopedias are. Aware of the potential of such decition, I tried to bring it to the atention of major decition makers User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#Airports but I think I made a bit of a fool myself there cause, not sure if I was menaging to point out that such an apparently minor decition will actually change the entire style of the segment of airport articles, I ended up there going in cyrcles and make a mess. Anyway, what leaves me warried is that editors seem unaware not only of this aspect, but that the decition of removing the tables will actually worsten the problem of WP:PROMO and edit-wars. In the tables we have at least all airlines and destinations given equal importance and weight, not favouring any company, while having just prose (suposedly adding just selectivelly the most important airlines and routes) will create a huge problem. What criterium will be used for adding info about some airline and destination in the article? Whatever the criterium, there will allways be editors wanting to add their favourite airline or destination. I am affraid anarchy will be created and much more work on patrolling the articles for us. Maybe I am exagerating, I dunno. What do you think? FkpCascais (talk) 21:19, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

And one more thing. I am not sure if people knows that there is actually not much literature about airports. If we remove those lists, many minor airports will basically be left with hardly and content. I think that is also a problem. What I reminded is if we could make separate articles for each airport having just the airlines and destinations, as in case of airliners destinations, but in this case, airport airlines and destinations? If we could basically remove the table from the article, and create a separate article just with the table? FkpCascais (talk) 21:33, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

Jetstreamer I have an idea! (you must be thinking I´m crazy haha) Lets do that, lets remove the tables from the airport articles and make separate articles with them, so that way the info and the hard work of people that made them and updated them is not thrown to garbage. Also, same as in airliners destination lists, include the former airliners that served the airport and former destinations! All properly sourced obviously. I personally allways wanted that info. if you know any website which lists former airlines and destinations airports had, let me know. My only concern is if this new set of articles containing just this tables will be allowed. I guess in this case it would be like Sofia Airport airlines and destinations list, and then same for all airports. What you think? FkpCascais (talk) 21:48, 24 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm just replying to the matter discussed in the last paragraph. I don't think it is a good choice to split the airport destination lists into stand-alone articles. Each one of them will likely fall into WP:NOTRAVEL and it will certainly be quoted as a rationale for deletion. One thing is for soure: many users take these lists as a fansite, and it is reasonable to understand that wiping them out will solve the problem for good.--Jetstreamer Talk 15:04, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
But with proper patrolling that has occured the tables have been providing quite a usefull and precise information. Also, an aspect which is mostly disregarded by us editors, is that such cases create an exponential increase in the ammount of traffic and edits which is beneficial for the project. Me personally still believe that the tables contain the most crutial information for airport articles. Removing them would be like removing "current squad" sections from sports lists. Airports main bussiness are airlines and routes they serve, without it, many many airports will be orphaned of information. I get to a feeling that you wouldn´t mind the tables to be wipped out, but I somehow feel sorry so much info which was well mantained and usefull, to be eliminated with one click. In my ideal world we would have all airports with complete lists of airlines and destinations, including terminated ones. We already have the first part, dedicating the next period of time to expand the second would be highly productive in my view, cause we would end one day having the complete data of airliners routes history in our project here. FkpCascais (talk) 18:14, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
Honestly, I don't have a position regarding these tables, but it is reasonable to say that they should be part of airport articles. You may start a discussion (if someone hasn't started one yet) at WT:AIRPORTS regarding the matter, but be prepared for a heated debate.--Jetstreamer Talk 20:14, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Ethiopian at Istanbul

No they will be flying to new aitrport, airlineroute makes sure airport is mentioned for cities with more than one, information is sourced from GDS, in the ref link I had attached you can see a Moscow airport is named and not just Moscow, when they first reported Istanbul route launch in June to start from November the new airport was expected to be open for all, so clearly ET was going to fly there hence just Istanbul instead of Istanbul-Ataturk, same now for March when new airport will be fully functional and open for all from January and Ataturk will close for passenger traffic, also all airlineroute posts for Istanbul launches prior to 29 October do mention airport to be used, be it Ataturk or Gokcen. I know ET web schedule shows Ataturk for March, but its wrong and is misreading IST as Ataturk, as the code belongs to new airport from January. (talk) 16:38, 29 November 2018 (UTC)


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Hello, my edits are not wrong as i get my research from the ASN website which includes a database of the accidents along with the final reports of the accidents i research. I'll re-edit my edit (if it makes sense ha) and add the links and reasons why i made said edits. Thanks :)

OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 14:03, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

@OrbitalEnd48401: If you base your edits on reading the ASN website without providing a citation that's unsourced editing.--Jetstreamer Talk 14:25, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

No it’s not, the final reports are not. I read the final reports plus. The pages cannot be edited as they are main accidents. So don’t give me that.

OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 16:01, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Plus the fact that I read the investigation sections on the accident son Wikipedia. To say I do insourced research? Rubbish

OrbitalEnd48401 (talk) 16:06, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

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I don't know about you, but my gut feeling is that OrbitalEnd48401 is not as new as he claims to be. Mjroots (talk) 16:14, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

@Mjroots: I don't have the evidence to claim that. Experienced or not, they keep making the same edits they were told not to.--Jetstreamer Talk 21:05, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

NPR Newsletter No.16 15 December 2018

Hello Jetstreamer,

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