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I recently had a severe case of Abciximab induced thrombocytopenia. It kept me in intensive care for 4 days while they put 4 bags of plastelets into me and waited for it's half life to expire. It came on fast and we were VERY lucky to catch it in time. Williamb 13:07, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I was trolling around on the internet and a Canadian article said there was one death associated with it from internal bleeding. My platelet count had gotten low enough that I wasn't clotting anymore and blood blisters were forming everywhere in my mouth. I also had petecchii from head to toe. They had never actually had a ReoPro reaction before at OHSU so they almost didn't catch it. because I was in so much pain from the stent proceedure that I was doped to the max on morphine and couldn't really tell them anything.


Yes I am back, but still a little busy this week. I might be returning to the UK within the next three months if I can find employment back there before I arrive. My wife & baby have a terrible erticaria because of pollution or something in the water here so we cannot stay long it seems. It just seemed to me that the whole Nazarene business has to be sorted out once and for all. I did my best to gather some objective info on the subject mostly available online. I think Nazarene should become a disambiguation page and the relevant info from there merged with the article. There are still some sources I need to check out though. At least the three original terms which merged into Nazarene have been exposed. I still can't find much out about the 135CE changes and this "Bishop Marcus" though. All the best.Zestauferov 02:10, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)


I don't know what I was thinking when I categorized that article. Probibly not another organic compound, ugggh. That's what comes from categorizing too many articles too fast. Gentgeen 10:44, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

They should be in Category:Heterocyclic bases. Gentgeen 11:51, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for the heads up about spaces in piped links. I wasn't aware of it. Kevin Rector 16:04, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)


Hi, JFW! I started working on desmopressin today, but ran out of time while I was researching it. Perhaps you could take a look and fill in some of the numerous gaps when you get some free Wikipedia time. Thanks! --Diberri | Talk 05:19, Jul 7, 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for the addition. Also, thanks for the comment about spaces after headings in myocardial infarction with regard to the MoS. I personally like spaces after headings, and believe they make the wikisource more readable (much easier to spot headings when they're separated from subsequent paragraphs). User:Aside has raised some questions about our heading-formatting guidelines at the talk page, and I've chimed in. --Diberri | Talk 15:52, Jul 7, 2004 (UTC)

Re: Hebrew language vs. "Canaanite language"[edit]

Hi, please see

Request for assistance in a conflict between users regarding Canaanite and Hebrew linguistics articles

Your input and interest would be appreciated Thank you. IZAK 09:19, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

  • Update: The above discussion was moved to Talk:Hebrew languages. Thanks for having gotten back to me. Your input would still be appreciated. Thanks. IZAK 06:59, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Judaism WikiProject[edit]

I started the WikiProject you suggested. Feel free to add a template, or edit it, and promote it. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judaism. --Ezra Wax 04:04, 8 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Child-Pugh score[edit]


Is this correct? JFW | T@lk 21:43, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hey, you found my calculator! A better calculator is the autoimmune hepatitis calculater, my first Javascript program.

And have I made mistakes in ascites? JFW | T@lk 14:07, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I added albumin gradient. Ascites is thought to follow hyperaldosteronism rather than preceed it. That pathophysiology paragraph needs a further tweak in that regard. Kd4ttc 00:32, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC) Ooops. Ascites preceeds the renal changes. Kd4ttc 23:41, 18 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Would you mind making the relevant additions? I'm not sure if I will get this right! There is also a lot to say about carcinomatous ascites - whether it is a production or a resorption problem, the role of VEGF and fenestrae in the vasculature... (Once heard a difficult talk about it.)JFW | T@lk 08:47, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

== Hi thanks that was a typo it was supposed to be negative agnostic which basicaly one in ignorance as apposed to an agnostic which is a belief sysem (the belief that no-one can know). Yes all these pages are disambiguationbecause I basically got so fed up of the bias on the Jew page.There are many kinds of jews and some of our definitions are mutually exclusive. This is what happens without Halakha. I will write you an email after shabbatz. Gut Shabbes.Zestauferov 11:49, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Could you please move Ultra-Orthodox Judaism to Haredi Judaism?[edit]

The issue has been discussed in talk, there don't seem to be any further objections, and I've re-done the article to reflect the change. Jayjg 17:10, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I didn't weigh in on the issue under Ultra-Orthodox Judaism, mainly because I was boycotting the article. However, even though Charedi is more accurate, before I studied in Israel, I had never heard the term. --Ezra Wax 22:18, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I believe you didn't. The term has become more popular recently, perhaps because of the pejorative nature of "ultra-Orthodox". In any event, it was first used in 1900, and long predates "Ultra-Orthodox". Jayjg 23:50, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Most Non-Jews would have no idea what Haredi means, at least here in America.--Josiah 04:38, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Most non-Jews have no idea what LDS means either, but that is the preferred term in Wikipedialand. Jayjg 03:14, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)

a favour[edit]

gedday J, I've decided to put mediaWiki:AnaesthesiamediaWiki:Anesthesia out of their misery. could you do me favour and delete them? I'm the only one to have done any work on them! I think the category system makes them redundant and they don't comply with ASB policy and i've cut them from the pages. Erich 07:22, 11 Jul 2004 (UTC)

How are revert wars handled?[edit]

I'm a little frustrated here. Over the past few months in the anti-Semitism article user:Simonides has been consistently censoring opinions with which he disagrees. As far as I can tell 5 or six editors have had it out with him already, but he appears to have worn them down through sheer intransigence. What can be done at this point? Jayjg 23:53, 9 Jul 2004 (UTC)

List of publications in medicine[edit]

Hi Jfdwolff, Thank you very much for your contribution to the list.
The list of publication in medicine is part of an attempt to compile a list of publications in science. I'm sorry to admit that I have no knowledge in medicine. There for I just created the list as a seed, hoping that people with proper knowledge will improve it.

I try to write the list in a certain structure. Please try to use the same structure as me. Take a look of the editing I did to the list. The List_of_publications_in_computer_science is also a good example of that structure.

Since I don't have any medical knowledge I'm not sure that my description and importance classification are correct. I also don't know in which sub topic of medical to classify these publication. Can you take care of that?

I'll appreciate it very much if you will be able to extend the article or tell about it to other people practicing medicine.

Thanks, APH 07:03, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)




It seems to me, and some folks that I've been chatting to, that there are some good reasons for admins to refrain from self-blocking when going on holiday, and instead simply leave a note on one's user or user talk page to the effect that one is going away and may be some time. I notice that some time over the last couple of months you've self-blocked, and I wondered if you would discuss the matter with us? Interested to hear your perspective. Thanks. Martin 21:36, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)


Hello JFW. I'm not a doctor, but a medical student in 5th year now. Does that qualify me to join the clinical medicine project?

About the clubbing and emphysema: it always seems to be a contentious point. I have heard several consultants stress (and I've also read in several places) that clubbing is not associated with COPD, and another diagnosis should be considered, such as lung cancer. I don't know... Perhaps clubbing is a late change in severe emphysematous disease. Were the patients you saw at the end stages of the disease?

Well, anyway, thanks for the welcome! Don't know how much I will be able to contribute once the semester gets going though...

Gatsky 04:48, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Thrombocytosis ?[edit]

Dr. Wolff,
Perhaps I am too nosy, but I'd like to bring to your attention the pages Thrombocytosis & Thromocytosis (the latter 'resembles' your Thrombocytopenia page). They were posted by User:
I just thought that you may want to know about this. If not, never mind.
-- PFHLai 09:35, 2004 Jul 19 (UTC)

Nazarene Judaism[edit]

Hi JFW. Zestauferov has decided that "Nazarene Judaism" is a branch of [[Judaism] (specifically Modern Orthodox Judaism), not Messianic Judaism, has claimed that you agree with this position, and has even gone so far as to get an administrator to protect the page with this position entrenched in it. I thought you might be interested in taking a look once you get back from vacation. Jayjg 21:36, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)


I have learned long ago that one can never win an argument with RK, because he hides behind personal attacks, rather than reading and understanding the sources he quotes. I stand by my very minor change of the page. Derech eretz does not mean "Gentile" knowledge. Other than that, I have given up on all of the Jewish articles and have decided to let the am-horatzim do what they want. All we have is a very biased view intended to make the Orthodox look like fundamentalists. Frankly, I am sick of it, but ich hob nisht kein koach for them any more. I welcome you to contact me privately about it. Danny 21:18, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)

I strongly urge you to re-consider. I have been successful in removing some of the bias you speak of in Jewish articles, and with support from knowledgable editors like you and JFW these kinds of anti-Orthodox viewpoints can be NPOVd. Jayjg 23:32, 25 Jul 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for the welcome, JFW. The ALL page looks much better with your expertise added in.

EC 01:43, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Judaism[edit]

Nice work! Hope to be of use.


Thanks for the work you did on pneumonia; it looks a lot better. I will try to work on the incomplete sections later.Mehrenberg 18:57, Jul 29, 2004 (UTC)


Responding to your question on the discussion page of Languedoc, yes Lunel was part of the province of Languedoc. Now it is part of the Languedoc-Roussillon region. Hardouin 16:21, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Dr Linkslasher[edit]

I happened upon your edits to Pain [1] et al, and wanted to tip my hat to you for the new persona of Dr Linkslasher. I tried my hand at adding link descriptions at ALL and immediately realized what a huge undertaking yours would be. You're to be commended, for sure. --Diberri | Talk 04:40, Aug 5, 2004 (UTC)

Hey Linx, wanno go sort out childlover while you're at it? Erich 05:57, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Dr Linkslasher is on a mission: he has anaphylactic reactions to external links. As for childlover, let's see if this survives VfD. In that case, the links need Linkslashing. Diberri, it is a long overdue job. Some articles have grown long lists of links that have not been accounted for, some with the most impressive esoteric rubbish or commercial stuff. Nice job on ALL. JFW | T@lk 06:35, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

My image gallery[edit]

All the pictures there were done using Word! You can do a lot with basic tools and a bit of practice, although I do make adjustments with a bitmap editor after I've finished. I've just got a new computer at home and intend to invest in one of the older versions of [[[Coral Draw]] (cheaper) for it, but I'll still have to use Word when I'm at work. Anyway thanks for the feedback. It's nice to know my efforts get noticed. theresa knott 23:43, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Style of medical articles[edit]

Thanks for the input re: rheumatoid arthritis. I intend to add more content. Regarding the organization, I have taken my cue from the classic textbooks of medicine, where, history, epidemiology and pathophysiology precede features and diagnosis. See my user:Mehrenberg for my template. I have modified this very little from the original template in the Clinical Medicine page.

WIKI version

My version

I don't mind the WIKI version, if that is what everyone is going to edit it to anyway. However, there is some sense to my, or should I say, the classical organization of medical articles. It is only through understanding the epidemiology and causes of a disease that a diagnosis could be reached, or a disease process and manifestations understood. This is the Western, scientific method, of medical diagnosis and decision making. We seek the cause, and do not simply treat symptoms. Of course you know this. I don't mean to be pedantic. The history section precedes all in the classical organization, I think, to pay homage to the great scientific minds that precede us. It serves very little purpose in understanding a disease process.
Mehrenberg 11:18, Aug 6, 2004 (UTC)

I read your post on my talk page User_talk:Mehrenberg regarding medical article structure. I could compromise on history, because it is just an honor role section, but epidemiology should be prominent. It precedes features in understanding a disease. I would not even consider malaria as a diagnosis because I live and work in Northeastern United States, where malaria never occurs, unless there is a history of travel. This is an obvious example, but what about Chagas' disease, or leichmaniasis? If lay people are going to make sense of these illnesses, epidemiology needs to be prominent. I would be happy to move our discussion to the community, but I don't know how. If you could summarize or copy our debate, to date, I would be grateful Mehrenberg 12:23, Aug 8, 2004 (UTC)


How do you find the new version of the IBS page? I have tried to make it less messy and add some information; however with my non-native English I am looking forward to further improvement. Dbach 14:39, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)


Texture, how did all those User namespace prefixes get deleted, and how are you managing to put them back? Has it been a vandalbot? JFW | T@lk 19:49, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

They didn't get deleted. They are so old that they are from a time that userspace was not separate from article space. Redirects were temporarily implemented to connect from one to the other and in order to remove these without broken links the "user:" has to be inserted for talk pages where the signature was prior to userspace creation. (As far as I understand it. I wasn't around back then.) - Tεxτurε 20:50, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Well, there goes my illusion that I knew something about WikiHistory :-). Did you know that Wikipedia comes up second in Google when you search for TANSTAAFL? Is your signature a veiled Googlebomb? JFW | T@lk 20:55, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

What a neat idea! No, I was playing around with my signature and decided to see how many people pay attention. My first was "Ask me about my turtles" and someone spotted that. You are number two. Now I have to think of a new hidden phrase... - Tεxτurε 20:59, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)


Hi JW,

I'm sporadically busy - I do a run of 7x12 hour shifts then get seven days off.. alternating day and night shifts. Its pretty interesting stuff although far too many 80yo's on vents for my liking. I'll have a go at ARDS sometime soon.

Sometimes I think it'd be nice to be an admin... and then I think "am I nuts?" I enjoy chipping in a bit when I can. WP:DWDAE has been a fine little project to nudge along - the hanging troll polls were more than I could stomach - although I've been disapointed by the response. I admit I handle rejection badly and felt quite cheered up when Jimbo voted in favour - clearly a bright man ;-)

things'll happen. Hey I notice you never voted you sod!

Erich 23:05, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages[edit]

You are hereby invited to Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages. - Gilgamesh 08:20, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages[edit]

Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages. Please join Wikipedia:WikiProject Hebrew languages Your input will be crucial.

Joseph Soloveitchik article[edit]

Recently RK has made a large number of edits to the Joseph Soloveitchik article; I urge you to review them for accuracy. Jayjg 21:42, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Hi Jayjg, unfortunately I know very little about Rabbi Soloveitchik and cannot really comment on RK's edits. I'll review them more thoroughly later today (when I'm not at work). Nevertheless, RK has (e.g. on Samson Raphael Hirsch) maintained that Hirsch and Soloveitchik are two sides of the same coin, something I take strong issue with. Again, I'll see what I can do. Please email me if things get out of control. JFW | T@lk 08:40, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
I don't think that Samson Rapahel Hirsch and Joseph Soloveitchik are identical, or would have agreed on every issue. However, I want to make clear that the points I added to the articles on these rabbis are not original ideas from me; they are based on numerous articles and letters to the editors in Orthodox Jewish journals (e.g. the articles currently referenced in the articles.) I have no problem with noting that a controversy over their views and impact exist, and I do not expect or desire that only one person's POV be represented. RK 19:05, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)

Kabbalah Center[edit]

You may wan to see the new article on the Kabbalah Center, the pseudo-yeshiva being led by former insurance agent Feivel Gruberger, who now claims to be "Rabbi Philip Berg".

There is a lengthy and carefully referenced article about him and his work called The Truth about the Kabbalah Centre which I got a photocopy of. It was published by the Task Force on Cults and Missionaries, Los Angeles, CA in 1995. A few years ago I wrote an article for a local newspaper on this issue, and tried to get permission to print the article. Despite letters and phone calls, I was unable to track down anyone who directly held copyright to it; the people who sent me the article from LA told me that I was free to publish the entire article, or parts therein, and that they could not provide me with copyright information or the name of the author. They allow others to post the entire article on their website, notably Rick Ross, an anti-cult educator. I suspect that the author or authors of this article want to avoid being sued, and wish that this material be widely distributed, and are deliberately letting this article pass into the public domain. RK 19:05, Aug 13, 2004 (UTC)

Cardiology Edits[edit]

Thanks for the welcome and into to a couple of other contributors. Yes I met, interacted with Patrick first. User:MAlvis

Pushiness and Dutch references[edit]

  1. JFW | T@lk 13:47, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC). You need not be an admin to do the things you're doing now. I also wonder why you're inserting references in Dutch to some articles. Finally, I detect a certain pushiness surrounding thought reform.
    • Your first criticism is noted fair and reasonable.
    • I did not have anything else than Dutch reference. This is the first time that I hear that this is not allowed though I agree that this is undesirable. I replaced just today a German reference for an English one.
    • Yes, I have been pushy with thought reform (on its talk page). The first time was when I was unexperienced with Wikipedia, which I explained and I admitted here [2] that I had been wrong. The second time when I want to link it into into religious conversion, which I still think is where it belongs. I had the right to be pushy then and there. Andries 15:04, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Myocardial infarction edits[edit]

In general I agree with your changes. I felt it was important to mention the overwhelmingly dominant mechanism producing ischemic and infarct episodes near the top and to mention that such changes were quite visible within the angiogram image on the page. It has been my experience that too many of the lay public, including those suffering obvious consequences, do not grasp (to their detriment with respect to understanding better treatment strategies) the connection between the underlying atherosclerosis process and the end stage events which suddenly occur. To many remain fixated on the stenosis concept, which can produce symptons, yet is not responsibe for most myocardial infarction events. You left these two key issues at the top, I concur. MAlvis.

You're right, as long as the intros don't spin out of control. Even for long articles, more than a few lines will generally distract. JFW | T@lk 22:52, 15 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Bossa Nova[edit]

See Talk:Bossa Nova


I would appreciate some help with creating a disambig page for EBT, giving EBT a relevant second meaning. e.g. * [[Electron Beam Tomography]] * [[Electronic Benefit Transfer]] {{disambig}} [[Category:TLAs]]

Otherwise the EBT link on the Cardiology diagnostic tests and procedures links to the Electronic Benefit Transfer page. I have not yet figured out how to correct the TLA acronym linking. MAlvis

Handling of Common Engineering Notations?[edit]

I ventured, given my use, into an X-Ray tube definition, combining a little history, medical, physics, and engineering perspectives. One problem was handling common electrical engineering terminology, e.g. see the KV for Kilovolt entry on the X-Ray tube page. Common engineering notation is based on the 10 to the 3rd power, both plus and minus exponents. Does the Wikipedia organization have any established policy and support for this notation? It expect it would be useful to writers and the general public.

Yes, your editing suggestions are relevant and appreciated.

Thank you for your appreciative comments regarding my work on better elucidating some of the atherosclerosis process. If some of this is useful, even to you as a physician working in a related area, then it should be extremely valuable to better general public understanding. Thanks for your help.

Duplicate VfD listing[edit]

I noticed an article ([[3]]) listed twice on the same day for VfD. I was going to remove the second listing, but wanted to make sure no votes were lost. It seems that the way the templates work, I can't access the edit history for your vote (which was under the second listing). I'm going to go ahead and remove the duplicate listing, but wanted to let you know in case you want to re-cast your vote. That article is number 17 on the list for August 17. SWAdair | Talk 07:23, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)


Hey there. Looks like you've done some good work on pre-eclampsia and HELLP syndrome. Don't know if you've noticed or not but eclampsia is simply a redirect to pre-eclampsia at the moment. Are you planning on creating an eclampsia article? I was thinking about it but don't know anything like as much as you clearly do (all my information is picked up through my midwife girlfriend). violet/riga 09:59, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I'll take a look at the books that my other half has and try to write something up about it. Will let you know when I have something to put in as an article and perhaps you can do your magic to it again! violet/riga 16:54, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Right, made the eclampsia article - hope that you can take a look and perhaps "medicalise" it! Cheers. violet/riga 19:08, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

ketamine structure formula[edit]

You can read my response here. Mykhal 09:44, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

anti-diabetic drugs[edit]

previous thread

I don't think it would be good to generate chemical formulas automatically. They often don't look aesthetically. And every database has mistakes, so one should check the structure from more sources, as I do. I took a look on your structures you wanted to be checked by me.. so it seems Rosiglitazone and Pioglitazone have swapped formulas; and Troglitazone has in your version about one carbon longer chain (you can make sure here and there). Your Statins are chemically (not aesthetically :]) correct except from Fluvastatin which should have indole cycle, but has dihydroindole; and should have -CH=CH- group instead of the strange -C=CH(OH)-. The last note - all statins are chiral compounds with defined stereochemistry. It would be nice to have included those wedged and dashed bonds to see the configuration on the asymmetric centers. Personally I would redraw all the structures - it would be a great pleasure for me :). Mykhal 20:51, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The statins and thiazolidinedione structures have been redrawn. Please check the pages if they are ok. I have noticed some problems with sections separators (<hr>) which are sometimes visible under the images (because they are transparent). Mykhal 13:37, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)


You may be interested in some new Hypercholesterolemia edits I made today. I believe they could be of practical value to many, though done in a bit of a rush.MAlvis

haemophilia vs hemophilia[edit]

Why are you moving all the haemophilia pages to the UK spelling? The articles are not in British English at all, so I would suggest you adapt the spelling to suit the title, or move them back. (Please note that Wikipedia uses both spellings, as long as articles are consistently in one spelling.)

You're right, it does. However, there was something quite silly about having the haemophilia title with one spelling and the article with the other. I renamed hemophlia accordingly, and the A, B and C accordingly. I'll concede that hemophilia seems more common, but the 'ae' version seems to be more common here. Arno 00:34, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)


Dear Dr. de Wolff Jacob,

I should be writing my thesis, but .... Yes, I will treat the "keys to the mop closet" well. :-)
Thank you very much for your kind words and your vote in support of my nomination for adminship.

You want more molecular biology ? Sure. I may write something on cell biology, too. Let me work on my thesis first ...

-- PFHLai 04:01, 2004 Aug 24 (UTC)

Thank you for your advice on adminship. I will be careful. :-) -- PFHLai 19:32, 2004 Aug 24 (UTC)

stroke volume and cardiac output[edit]

Good for finding duplication, a technical difficulty with the Wiki engine, however I believe you also threw out some significant practical issues which Ksheka does not cover. My focus was based, beyond the engineering level assessment (been there, done that), more on principles and ratios which I have found, from extensive clinical experience that most physicians, much less the public, don't grasp. Yet they are fairly easy to lay out, are grasped more quickly and are of more practical use to patients. Transferring deletions to the applicable user talk page, rather than tossing them, would probably be a better strategy. -- MAlvis

Igor and his agenda[edit]

Igor needs to be banned. Not only is this person pushing holocaust denial and Nazi websites and propaganda, he is clearly trying to trash Wikipedia. If he is allowed to keep harassing us, this might encourage some more of his Nazi peers to join in the attack on Wikipedia. We might have a serious problem here. RK 21:19, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for banning the troll. I decided to quit debating him--it was like talking to a brick wall. If he edits the Jew article again I'll just revert him on sight. Antandrus 15:01, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)

My thanks as well. Jayjg 15:09, 25 Aug 2004 (UTC)


I like the OMIM tags. Unfortunately, they have created a bit of a format and intelligibility problems in the CAH table. Because the larger OMIM tags forced a shift of column size, the precursors and products are not longer connected by the arrows, and many of the compounds have been broken into 2 lines. Compare the two farthest right columns of the table before you inserted the tags and the new one, and you will see what I mean. I don't know whether just abbreviating number to no. would allow them to readjust but that would require changing your tag. Any thoughts or fixes? Alteripse 21:59, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I vote for omitting "number" altogether. The number is clearly a number and the link makes the meaning OMIM clear. I'll leave it to you. Alteripse 11:44, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

And now you know why I refuse to go anywhere near the Judaism articles ... Danny 14:25, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

It is very unfortunate, but it has been going on for so long already that I doubt it will stop. As they say, Ein am ha'aretz hassid. Danny 14:35, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

My approach to the controversies is siyag lechochma shetika. Danny 19:11, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)

But then how does the content ever get fixed? Your sh'tika may make you a hochom but it allows the amarotsim to create nonsense, undermining the integrity of Wikipedia, the project you hold dear. Isn't there currently a critical mass of editors who are actually knowledgable on these subjects to maintain some semblance of integrity in these articles? Jayjg 20:28, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)


The limit of 5 of a particular template is intentional and due to performance concerns. The performance problem could be worked around, but as far as I know, has not been. Given that most prior complaints about the limitation have been from people "misusing" templates, I think the developers didn't really see any need to work on fixing it. -- Cyrius| 16:18, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Amino acids[edit]

Oh, that's embarrassing for a student of biochemistry ;-) I'll try to find the PPT file later today. It should be converted into OpenOffice format anyway, for editing in different languages. --Magnus Manske 07:25, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC)

Not medic (-:[edit]

As you noticed, I'm not a medic; I'm a french first aid instructor (moniteur, the french instructeur is above a moniteur). As the basic knowledge is very low (10h for the basic training, the additionnal 60h to become instructor are mostly pedagogy) —and it has to be to be accessible to untrained people— I have tomake a lot of efforts to understand the medical articles I read for my culture; and I try use the understanding effort to explain as clearly as possible the few things I catch.

Concerning the Clinical medicine project, I already participated to a discussion.

Concerning the style in internal bleeding: thanx for the tip, I'll write it in another way.

Cdang 07:49, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)

uh uh, no real experience in traumatology. I'm a volunteer first aider (certified first responder level), and perform only preventive first aid post for cultural and sporting events. Most of our time is spent sitting, waiting for an accident that fortunately rarely happens (we in fact act as filter and avoid saturation of the emergency services due to light wounds). We of course train to act on severe trauma just in case, but in France, most major trauma happen on the road, not in cultural events... Cdang 08:08, 2 Sep 2004 (UTC)