User talk:Jjj1238

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Archive temp[edit]

Sorry to sound a bit harsh here, but I see that you have copied the archive template style that I created back in June 2014. You are aware that it is compulsory to ask a user if you may copy all or part of their user page styles? The Page I created is User talk:Wesley Mouse/Archive Temp - I gave the unique subpage title "/Archive Temp" for simplicity purposes. I see that on 22 October 2014 you also created the same subpage title of "/Archive Temp". On this occasion I shall let it pass and will move my original version to a new title. Wes Mouse | T@lk 16:41, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Oh I'm sorry. I didn't know that this was a specific template you created yourself, I thought it was just a generic template that anyone could use. I apologise. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 16:58, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Not to worry, I understand the confusion. If a page has a slash / subpage, then it means it is connected to its parent page, in this case user page. I've given the one I created a more unique title to avid confusion from other potential members. Personally, I find it flattering when other Wikipedian's are inspired by my designs and wish to use the same or similar on their pages, as long as the ask or at least attribute. I fell under that trap when I first joined Wikipedia and copied without asking, and I got a big telling off. Wes Mouse | T@lk 17:28, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Ok thanks. I was so worried that you were furious with me so I'm glad you're not :P { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 20:13, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Ah! I wasn't furious, just surprised when I noticed it. I've had another user copy my current signature style shortly after this incident, without asking. That one did get me a little growling to say the least. Wes Mouse | T@lk 20:18, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
Probably just because you're an amazing editor that everyone in the ProjectEurovision community looks up to :P. But once again just thanks for not getting too mad. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 20:23, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── And thanks for the swift reverting action at Eurovision Song Contest 2015. Although be careful of the 3 revert rule, as I would be mortified if you were to get blocked for edit warring. I have posted a warning at Mikeagell98 talk page regarding his behaviour. If he does it again, then point him out to the advice given at User talk:CT Cooper#Eurovision rarity; in which it was decided that this is a rare (well a first time occurrence) that a country has confirmed their return to a contest, well before the current one has begun. Having the information included in ESC2015 provided further update on Turkey's situation; which in turn permitted the addition of the 2016 row on Turkey's Eurovision article; and the early creation of Eurovision 2016 article. Wes Mouse | T@lk 20:53, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Ellie Goulding pic[edit]

Not quite sure why I've just been informed my edit was reverted when I just corrected a typo, but that's technology for you, I guess. For what it's worth though, I think the new one does look a lot better. This is Paul (talk) 14:57, 16 February 2015 (UTC)

The only reason your edit was reverted was because I was attempting to revert some IP user's edit but yours was in the way. After looking to see what you edited I believe it was just correcting a typo that the IP user did, so I figured restoring a previous revision and undoing both of your edits wouldn't do much harm. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 15:14, 16 February 2015 (UTC)


The way I see it "Latvian" can mean several things - country of origin, ethnicity (tautība), nationality (valstspiederība), personal identity etc. In Aminata's case it would appear she is multi-ethnic, but probably Latvian on all other accounts. It is possible that the same applies to her mother and she meant any of these other identities by saying that her mother is Latvian, but she didn't really elaborate. In the interview with Ieva she dedicates quite a bit more than one sentence to her origins and explains that actually only her maternal grandfather is ethnic Latvian from Latgale. Her maternal grandmother is Russian. I just find it stylistically weird to say that person is Latvian multiple times in one sentence, when it isn't really that certain that she prefers only that side of her heritage (and besides point of all this is to explain her daughter's origins and identity) ~~Xil (talk) 22:06, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject Eurovision Cup - March 2015[edit]

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This is a reminder that the first Project Eurovision Cup begins on Sunday 1 March and will run all the way through until Tuesday 31 March. The aim of the competition is to help improve many of the articles within Project Eurovision that would have been otherwise left neglected, by carrying out as many objectives as possible. The more objectives you do, the more points you will earn. So have you got what it takes to be crowned Project Eurovision Member of the Month? Click here to sign up.

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  • Jjj, may we still tempt you to sign up for the Eurovision Cup? Looking at the number of new articles for ESC2015 that you've created (which out of interest would score 4 points per stub article; or 5 point were they to be automatic start-class) would put you in good standing of achieving a top-3 spot at the end of the month. There's still time to sign up for March's contest - deadline for signing is today. Wes Mouse | T@lk 20:45, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
You got me :P { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 21:04, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
I was thinking with the number of new articles you have created so far; that any you do create this month will soon add up points. And those points help to be crowned Member of the Month. :-D Wes Mouse | T@lk 22:07, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
I hope I'll be able to. Recently whenever I'm creating a new article after they've won their national selection, some user (not sure who) creates a one sentence article that creates an edit conflict and I end up having to fix them up. Not sure if it's the same person but they keep creating articles for every Melodifestivalen 2015 contestant that I've been fixing up because they seem to be directly translated from the Swedish wikipedia without checking for grammar mistakes. It's a little annoying but oh well. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 22:16, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
I'd probably check on the edit history of Melodifestivalen 2015 and cross-reference with who is creating these one-liners. Then perhaps posting a polite comment on their talk page mentioning about edit conflicts etc. Should do the trick. On the note of these infoboxes; I'm almost done. Got through the 1955-1989; and now doing 1990-2014 (all of 2015 have been done). Wes Mouse | T@lk 22:45, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
Ok thanks Wes :) { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 23:12, 1 March 2015 (UTC)


Please take a look at the article about Måns Zelmerlöw. I have done several edits to improve the article ahead of his likely Melodifestivalen winning next weekend. Any further improvements are appreciated. Cheers.--BabbaQ (talk) 17:21, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Detailed results of the Greek national final[edit]

Hello, please, could you give the source from which the detailed results of the Greek national final have been taken? Thanks in advance :) Gianluca91 (talk) 01:06, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

Useful tip[edit]

Jjj, I noticed the revert at Há um mar que nos separa - well done for spotting and removing it. Here is a useful tip in case you stumble across any more like that. Link to WP:NOTLYRICS in the edit summary, just in case the users attempt to re-add the content. Hopefully it will deter them from warring and they pay attention that Wikipedia is not a lyrics database. Wes Mouse | T@lk 15:37, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Ok thanks Wes, I'll do that next time. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 15:41, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
I found all the shortcut links from what Wikipedia is not to be a good deterrent against people re-adding content. They basically realise that Wikipedia is not what they thought it were. Wes Mouse | T@lk 15:48, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Aleš Vovk DOB[edit]

Hi, Jjj1238. If there is a Slovenian source for his birthday, you can certainly add it the English language article. See WP:NONENG for details. Parameters can be found on Template:Citation. Cheers! --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:48, 9 March 2015 (UTC)

Romania ESC 2015[edit]

Hi-->Jjj1238! Would Voltaj sing their song in Romanian or English at Eurovision? They've already done a English version of their song, called All Over Again. °°Cartoon network freak°° 17:42, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) The English language version of the song is actually called "From the beginning", the English translation of their Romanian entry is "All over again" - just to point out the factual error there. As for whether they will perform the song in Romanian or English, is not our choice unfortunately. That decision would be down to the artists or Romanian delegation; and then upto the EBU to update their eurovision,tv website accordingly to verify. Until such verification is published from the primary source, then we cannot speculate as that constitutes original research. Wes Mouse | T@lk 17:29, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Just to further clarify the translation.
Wes Mouse | T@lk 17:35, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
Wes, I believe the English-language version of the song really is "All Over Again" (source). Through my knowledge of French and the fact that Romanian and French were both Romance languages I assumed that "de la" made sense as meaning "of/from the", as that was the translation used on the Romania in the ESC 2015 article until someone randomly changed it. I had no clue what capăt meant so I just went along with whatever was written. Unless de la capăt happens to be a Romanian phrase meaning all over again, I'm pretty sure that's just the English version of the song, unless it's actually both. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 18:45, 10 March 2015 (UTC)



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WikiProject Eurovision Newsletter - Issue 46[edit]

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Project Eurovision Cup[edit]

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WikiProject Eurovision Cup - April 2015[edit]

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The winner of the first Project Eurovision Cup is Jjj1238, who achieved an outstanding 108 points. Androptrnt finished in second place with 30 points, and Moldova96 in third with 15 points.

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You're withdrawing? I never expected that to happen. Thought you might want to try and retain your crown. Anyhow, you have scored 2 points up until the moment you withdrew, which will still be counted, just nothing else being tallied up (unless of course you change your mind). Wes Mouse | T@lk 10:13, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
Yeah I am, sorry Wes. It's just that since I won I've already achieved my goal and I wanted to let the others who haven't won yet have a chance to win. But I'm not ruling out a possible return in the future. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 10:15, 1 April 2015 (UTC)


(cur | prev) 18:54, 23 March 2015‎ Jjj1238 (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (1,990 bytes) (0)‎ . . (Jjj1238 moved page I'll Be Fine (Molly Pettersson Hammar song) to I'll Be Fine over redirect: Unless these songs are given articles the title should remain like this) (undo | thank)

Fine but that's a bit of a random process which depends on which songs get stubs. The Janita song did better than this song, why doesn't it have an article? In ictu oculi (talk) 15:37, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @In ictu oculi: and Jjj1238, if there other songs with the same title, then really I'll Be Fine should become a disambiguated page with all of the song titles listed. And the previous redirect undone immediately. Wes Mouse | T@lk 16:18, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

May 2015[edit]

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Candy (Georgian band)[edit]

I saw your edit on CANDY, and I agree that the ':a weren't necessary, so I added a (Empty) between the first part and the members. Do you think that was any better? (Candy (Georgian group)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 15:23, 22 May 2015 (UTC)

Eurovision map[edit]

Hi. Just wondering if you know how to edit the Eurovision map? Thanks Lucky102 (talk) 16:56, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately I don't. I understand how annoying it is for the map to go unedited for a long time, but sadly I don't know how to edit it. I'd suggest talking to someone on its commons page. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 16:59, 23 May 2015 (UTC)


Hi, I have nominated Måns win at Eurovision for a mention at ITN. Take a look. Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates.--BabbaQ (talk) 08:25, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Category:Armenian people of Oceanian descent[edit]

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I don't think that should even be on ESC2016 article to be honest. Even the website headline states "rumour mill" which makes it WP:CRYSTAL speculation. Also they are quoting the Twitter source, which was the reason Kosovo was removed from the article in the first place. If you recall back to the project debate about the prohibition of Twitter as sources. So on that account, I would remove it from the article. Wes Mouse | T@lk 21:13, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I only added it because I've seen it on several Eurovision news websites. To be honest I doubt they'll be allowed to participate, it's either completely fake or just an interval act in my mind. { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 21:25, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
The wording in the tweet is dubious in itself. Just so we are clear: I actually KNOW #Kosovo will participate in next years @Eurovision #ESC2016 event. I can’t tell you how yet though. Perhaps Kosovo are looking to be an interval act, like Australia were in 2013 and 2014. Or Kosovo are sending a singer to participate for Albania again. The tweet is just too ambiguous and making an exceptional claim. Even WP:Twitter discourages the use of them as sources. Wes Mouse | T@lk 21:32, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Maša Vujadinović[edit]

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WikiProject Eurovision Cup news[edit]

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Big project task on the horizon[edit]

Jjj, you like creating articles for country by year, right? There is a big task regarding JESC article on the horizon that will require as many hands on deck as possible. You up for the challenge? Wes Mouse | T@lk 17:02, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I'm up for it. What do I have to do? { [ ( jjj 1238 ) ] } 17:10, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
There is an AfD regarding a JESc singer, Eliias. It isn't the first to be nominated for deletion and resulted in being merged into its respective country article, or deleted completely because no country article existed; and won't be the last either, unless of course we get ahead of the game. From what has been picked upon, is that there are 70 BLP articles that will need checking for notability. If any fail WP:MUSIC, WP:BLP1E, and WP:GNG, then they need to be moved into a [Country] in the Junior Eurovision Song Contest [year]; and then we are avoiding WP:NOTREPOSITORY, WP:SPEEDY, and WP:AfD on these bios. And it has been recommended that in future, we no longer create a BLP article for JESC participants, except for the winning artist(s). Wes Mouse | T@lk 17:25, 2 July 2015 (UTC)