User talk:Jmlk17

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I've been gone a long time, so please bear with me! Jmlk17 21:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

About freakin' time. --Bongwarrior (talk) 08:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Good to see you too :) Jmlk17 08:24, 14 July 2010 (UTC)


deleted of page of Frank Karlitschek[edit]

Hi, I noticed that you deleted the page of Frank Karlitschek completely. You said that it just advertising and not relevant. This is not true. If you search for Frank on the Internet you see that he is a well known Open Source person and a regular keynote speaker at big conferences. There are even several other Wikipedia pages mentioning him. So it would be great if you could recreate the page. If you think that the content is just advertising for projects I would appreciate if you could give me some hints how to improve the text so that it is more appropriate. Thanks in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CmdrSource (talkcontribs) 00:10, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Olimp page deleted[edit]

Hi, I just noticed you deleted the page for "Olimp" [1] with the rationale "G6: Deleted to make room for an uncontroversial page move". I can't remember what Olimp redirected to previously (Olimp, Romania I think), but apparently this uncontroversial page move never happened since there's nothing under "Olimp" as of now. It should be, obviously, redirected to "Olimp (disambiguation)". However, I hesitate to create this redirect without checking with you first, since you deleted the previous version of the page.radek (talk) 22:36, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Sure thing... let's get it back up. Jmlk17 05:40, 16 July 2010 (UTC)


hello,:Hey there Frank. I'd recommend checking out a couple guidelines here. Also, Velib and Bicing are massive programs in enormous cities involving thousands of bikes. This is not to say DecoBike is not the same... just perhaps not as well-known? You are obviously more than welcome to edit and create articles here on notable organizations. I'd recommend finding a few, good, concrete sources discussing the program. Along the lines of government releases and stories, large news organizations with info, etc. I totally believe in the bike sharing cause myself (we have a couple programs in the city I live in and I LOVE them), and I'd offer a hand however I may. To save your article from being deleted again, try working on it in a personal use space like User:Frank33139/DecoBike. Personal spaces like that are the ideal area to work on something to help bring it up to snuff before you actually publish it for the world to see. Hope all is well, hope this helps a bit, and I look forward to hearing from you again soon. Jmlk17 18:05, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

thanks for the feedback. i think with some additional work on it to bring in more sources is a good way to proceed for me.


this my first talk so if it was wrong i am sorry i dont know how to do it

may i know hy you reverted all my trivia in my cousin vinny page it took me so much time

Hey there. Check out WP:TRIVIA for an in-depth, pretty darn good rundown on trivia guidelines here :) Jmlk17 05:47, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

thanks friend

i haven't read the all the guidelines yet —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikixx99 (talkcontribs) 05:49, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Not a problem at all. Welcome to Wikipedia, and if you have anymore questions or anything, please don't hesitate to ask myself or any of the other admins around here. Jmlk17 05:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello There[edit]


I have noticed that you have removed my bio page. I am new to wikipedia, can you plz tell me what is wrong with the my bio. And also some ways to improve it.

Thanks in advance. Ashish Solanki SEO (talk) 07:11, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Sure thing. First off, welcome! Secondly, check out our notability guidelines. That should help clear up a few issues. Jmlk17 07:14, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I forgot to include awards and such thing. can i recreate the same page again with awards included. your help would be appreciated. Ashish Solanki SEO (talk) 07:18, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Anything that would help prove some notability would be immensely helpful :) Jmlk17 07:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

i am placing the new bio with awards included. Plz check for it. Thanks.Ashish Solanki SEO (talk) 07:21, 17 July 2010 (UTC)


Yes it was me Fridae'§Doom | Spare your time? 00:38, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it was already done. Jmlk17 07:57, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

why ?[edit]

hello to whom it may concern, i wrote in article on a artist i found that i think is really gtreat what was wrong with it and why would you call it Vandalism.19 July 2010 i think the art has inspired me then more than anything before. fred —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fredbach (talkcontribs) 10:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Could you please elaborate? Jmlk17 07:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Essential Magic Conference (Self-Sectioned)[edit]

Why was Essential Magic Conference erased? We magicians believe this is an important step in our community! Please reconsider keeping it and inform me which will be the best way to perfect it so it can stay. I.e.magic (talk) 18:41, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Please check out WP:NOTABILITY for some more info. Jmlk17 07:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


Did you delete the page "44's?" Not only was it relevant, but i backed it up with a well-written rebuttal with tons of information protecting the page. Did you even read the "talk page." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dmoney408 (talkcontribs) 08:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes I did. Did you happen to check out WP:NOTABILITY? Jmlk17 08:06, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes I did, and i still don't see the problem (Dmoney408 (talk) 09:32, 21 July 2010 (UTC))

Your gang is almost certainly not notable. You mention it being almost a house-hold name at a certain high school... that does not make it a notable organization. Furthermore, your edit summary "(This is a low-key gang growing in the Yay Area. Fo'ty Fo's Fo Life)" may show a conflict of interest. Sorry, but a "gang" that occupies no mention in the media that no one has heard of is probably not notable. Jmlk17 18:28, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of new page Heidi Julia Bender[edit]

Hello -

I note you've deleted the page Heidi Julia Bender because "Article about a real person, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject".

Please note at the bottom of the page there's a note from the International Astronomical Union that says, "Heidi is the only child for whom a crater on Venus has been named. While she doesn't have the quantity of substantial works of other authors and artists, the USGS and the IAU recognized that a child who accomplishes so much in such a short time under such duress, and has had such a positive effect on so many people, is famous indeed."

This is a 10-year-old child we're talking about, who has provided many people with incredible inspiration. I respectfully request that you reconsider your rejection of this page, with suggestions for its improvement. Thank you.

Hjbender1 (talk) 13:35, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I understand her significance within the IAU, but in the end, does she truly satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines? If she truly does, an article is obviously more than welcome. But within other and outside research, it just may appear that she does not. Jmlk17 20:17, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I believe she does satisfy Wikipedia's notability guidelines. For example, your definition of "notability" is

A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published[3] secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent,[4] and independent of the subject.

Under "Additional Criteria" you continue with "A person is generally notable if they meet any of the following standards." and under #1 "The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times."

In Heidi's case, she's the only child so honored, for reasons the United States Geological Survey (who nominated her) and the International Astronomical Union (who approved her) felt were sufficient to make her notable.

Please note that this information is linked from the U.S. Geological Survey and the Lunar and Planetary Institute, both of which are Wikipedia references.

More to the point, Wikipedia lists the Venus craters, including Heidi's (, and she is one of the few names on your list without a biographical link. I'd like to correct that, with your support. Hjbender1 (talk) 23:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

It certainly seems that Heidi just may belong on here. My recommendation it to recreate the article in a personal page area such at User:Hjbender1/Sandbox and get it polished up, and then publish it as an article again. If you have any concerns or questions, I'd be more than happy to help. Jmlk17 18:29, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

I'll be happy to do that. I'm new to Wikipedia page construction so I'll have to learn that method. Also, could I have access to my original page? I put a fair amount of work into it and a lot of it should be suitable for my next (better) effort. I thought it would remain under my userid, but that was deleted too, and I didn't keep a copy of it on my computer.

Thanks! (talk) 18:45, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Done. I put the article in your User:Hjbender1/Sandbox personal space. Hope this helps! Jmlk17 17:40, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Excellent! Thanks! I'll be working to improve it to Wiki's standards. (talk) 19:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I've (hopefully) improved the Heidi Julia Bender page, which you'll find in my Sandbox. Could you please look at it and offer suggestions? If it looks OK, I'd like to put it on Wiki and point the Venus crater listing to it. Thanks! Hjbender1 (talk) 17:02, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I can't figure out how to copy the new article in my Sandbox into the main Wikipedia. Please advise. Thanks! Hjbender1 (talk) 02:39, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

All you should have to do is copy/paste the information into the article again. Try Heidi Julia Bender. Jmlk17 06:37, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

The Spaghetti Tree (Album)[edit]

Why the hell did you delete it?????? It's all over the internet.

and the first single G.R.I.N.D was released already. Put The Spaghetti Tree (album) back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 16:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

List of common misconceptions[edit]

Hi. I was just doing a pending revisions review on this page when you semi-protected it. Now it seems to be stuck on pending revisions! Not sure how to sort that one out or what to click. Fainites barleyscribs 17:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Hmmmm... you should still be able to get in and review any pending changes/accept/decline them. Let me see if I messed something up in there :) Jmlk17 17:27, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Looks OK now. Fainites barleyscribs 17:42, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
One of those little weird things around here sometimes. Jmlk17 17:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

I described this issue here: Wikipedia talk:Pending changes#I had to manually accept my own change. I thought this was bizarre. ~Amatulić (talk) 17:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Odd... thanks for the heads up! Jmlk17 17:54, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

John Dixon (Liberal Democrat)[edit]

See User talk:PatGallacher. PatGallacher (talk) 19:34, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I apologize. My computer likes to frazzle me a bit. WP:BIO is the link I was meaning to add to the deletion log. Jmlk17 19:36, 23 July 2010 (UTC)


you deleted "Jon Lusk" He was hero in World War 1 and that is not Hoax. he protected you freedoms and you delete that memory. The United States Army was behind that, its not a hoax —Preceding unsigned comment added by Congreen8 (talkcontribs) 23:30, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

July 22th

Sounds good. Freedoms are always nice. Please check out WP:BIO for some notability information. Jmlk17 23:31, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: Marvel vs. Capcom 3[edit]

Thanks so much, dude. We'll do our best to keep the pages clean. Keep in mind, though, that I'm pretty sure the expiration is right around the time of Tokyo Game Show, so don't be surprised if the page needs to get locked down again the day after the protection ends...*sigh* -- Cyberlink420 (talk)

Anytime :-) Jmlk17 20:33, 24 July 2010 (UTC)


yo, you've deleted the sciomancy artikel like 3 years ago and there arn't any replacements, so are you going to fix it or what? thanks dikke33 —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 21:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Honestly, what is there to fix? The article was deleted per an expired WP:PROD reasoning of "Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Unlikely this stub will become a full article. Definition is already posted over on Wiktionary." Hence, nothing to fix. Jmlk17 04:41, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

List of metro systems[edit]

Could you please take a look at each of the changes that User:Oknazevad had reverted? [2] He just reverts them all repeatedly. He doesn't even bother to look into each of the changes. He declines to discuss anything on his user talk page. And he does whatever he can to block the listing of this list on RfC. I don't have any opinion with the page protection. What I'm worried is that you may have freeze the page with the wrong version. (talk) 19:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

I'd be happy to check it out :-) Jmlk17 19:47, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Thank you so much indeed. (talk) 20:00, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Please don't feed the troll. SchmuckyTheCat (talk)
Never do... but I always am glad to check something out ya know? Never a bad idea in the end to look with an uninvolved eye. Jmlk17 20:05, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Of course, but I'll still warn to look with a skeptical, if uninvolved eye. :) SchmuckyTheCat (talk)
Absolutely. That's a pretty good idea! Jmlk17 20:09, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Furiae Cult in Cuchara[edit]

I was looking at the Cuchara, Colorado entry and saw "Cuchara is locally famous for a number of notable paranormal and supernatural sightings. Most of these sightings focus around the legend of Robert A. Leger, who became notorious for founding the short-lived Furiae cult, who were based in south-central Colorado in the early 20th century." and looked for anything about said cult, since I have never heard of anything like that growing up near there and saw that you had deleted the article as a hoax. I was wondering if you might be so good as to edit the Cuchara entry as well, thanks. (talk) 23:56, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Hope all is well[edit]

Hi Hope the sky is blue on the other side. I am trying to create and submit a 3 Biography pages for; 1) "Shabanali Eslami" who is a well known Movie producer in Iran with more than 16 Cinematic and Television work 2) "Mahnaz Eslami" who has been acting in iran since 1983 with more than 13 appearances in full lengh movies and dramas 3) And "AshCon Eslamy" Who was a child actor in Iran and appeared in 3 movies and now living in New Zealand as a Music producer.

Now I have created an AshCon page twice and was deleted, once by you. are you able to give me some tips and hints on what I would need to change on my AshCon page so it can get approved so I can apply the same structure to the other two.

Your help will be appreciated. Regards Ash —Preceding unsigned comment added by Street Family (talkcontribs) 11:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

I have restored the article to a personal userpage of yours at User:Street Family/Sandbox. If I may suggest, tweek the article with some good, solid, third-party references to help show notability for AshCon. Hope this helps! Jmlk17 16:18, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Deleted OS/VS2 article had been intended as disambiguation[edit]

The article OS/VS2 had been intended as a disambiguation page to distinguish OS/VS2 (SVS) and OS/VS2 (MVS). When I saw the speedy delete message I realized that I had not correctly formatted it. What is the proper procedure to restore the page so that I can edit it into the correct format for disambiguation? Thanks. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 12:37, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

I have restored the article at OS/VS2. For future reference, you can always go to WP:RESTORE to make a request, but stopping by the deleting admin's talk page works as well.  :-) Jmlk17 16:20, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I think that I've got the style right, but I left it tagged as {{disambig-cleanup}} just in case. Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz Username:Chatul (talk) 20:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Craig Ferguson[edit]

Hello! The sudden influx of vandalism occurred because of humorous comments made by Ferguson on last night's edition of his talk show ("You look up my name on Wikipedia, it'll say I have three testicles and a wooden knee. Which is ridiculous—I have three wooden testicles."). Unless he reiterates this joke (or something similar), long-term semi-protection should not be needed. —David Levy 17:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I was wondering what caused the influx! Changed the protection to a week, just to make sure. Jmlk17 17:09, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
That sounds about right. Thanks! —David Levy 17:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Anytime. Jmlk17 17:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Unprotection request[edit]

Hi Jmlk17. Thanks again for protecting the article Joran van der Sloot. After some discussion there, consensus is that unprotection would be a good idea because the prospects for disruption appear minimal and if it reoccurs it can be enforced by a block. So when you find some time you could unprotect the article if you also agree. Thanks again and take care. Dr.K. λogosπraxis 14:30, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Anytime Dr. K.! The article has been unprotected. I hope it all works out for you guys... if you need anything else, please don't hesitate to ask. Jmlk17 17:37, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your nice comments. It is very nice to know someone out there is willing to help. Take care :) Dr.K. λogosπraxis 18:01, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

File:JR & Babe Cover Story Image (Main).JPG[edit]

Hello, Jmlk17. Why was this file deleted? It has been there for years now, and was there for critical commentary to represent the main version of the JR Chandler and Babe Carey couple. Flyer22 (talk) 20:46, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

I see now why it was deleted. Fixer23 explained. Flyer22 (talk) 21:32, 30 July 2010 (UTC)‎
Sorry for the delay; glad Fixer23 was able to help you out. Jmlk17 19:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
No problem. But I have a question about another scanned image. You may want to weigh in on this. The question is currently located at User talk:Fixer23#Scanned images. Flyer22 (talk) 19:02, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Costa Oriental[edit]

Can you please re-instate Costa Oriental? Wikipedia:CSD#G8 is not met, the page didn't depend on the deleted one. See Special:Search/costa+oriental to find it is an official term used in at least Venezuela. Schwyz (talk) 20:05, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Done. Jmlk17 23:38, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Jimmy Carter[edit]

Excuse me, I did NOT vandalize the Jimmy-Carter entry as you accused me of doing. I contributed a constructive paragraph about his 1980 campaign. (talk) 09:25, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

No, an edit like [3] this one is personal opinion violating WP:POV issues on Wikipedia. Jmlk17 16:23, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
You think the fact that the hostage crisis in Iran made JC look weak and helpless is a "personal opinion"? It is an historical fact, which everyone who remembers the 1980 campaign remembers. Are you old enough to remember 1980? Don't you remember there was an abortive rescue attempt, in which two of USA's helicopters crashed into each other? The hostage crisis made JC appear incompetent as commander-in-chief of the military and hurt his re-election campaign very badly.
In any event, my entering that fact was an honest mistake on my part (I still dispute that it's "personal opinion"), not an attempt to vandalize. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:16, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Regulate (song) protection[edit]

Anonymous edits, is that what "vandalism" means now on WP? I didn't think so. WP:WAE. Just because I don't feel like logging in doesn't make me a vandal. Vandalism is defined by the character of the edits, not the status of the user. It grinds my gears the rash, brain-dead way admins act these days. C'est la change, I guess. - (talk) 18:57, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Man, you should read WP:AGF asap. I never once said your edits were vandalism, and never once accused you of anything. It grinds my gears the way people automatically assume a deletion, protection, etc. revolves around them, without checking a bit more into the background of the issue(s). Next time, please check the page history first. Maybe check out WP:RFPP for a bit more information as well. But let's start with WP:AGF... a good start. Jmlk17 19:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Well I apologize for being mistaken. But if I could see any vandalism in the recent history before my edits, and if I hadn't been the only editor in the 90 minutes before you semiprotected, I wouldn't have assumed it was my edits you were protecting against. I didn't see any vandalism pointed out. - (talk) 16:14, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

KVIrc page deleted[edit]

Hi! I have noticed that you deleted the page for the KVIrc IRC client [4] with the concern "Third party references showing notability have been requested for six months or longer". The client is included in all major linux distributions (see [5] for instance) just like the other clients that still have the wikipedia page (see ircle or XChat for instance). A simple google query will return a bunch of third party references showing notability. Can we bring it back? Pragma (talk) 05:57, 03 Aug 2010 (GMT+1)

I would be more than happy to, but the article would/does definitely need some work. Would you like me to restore the article into a personal userpage, so that you could edit it and polish it up before it is restored to the actual site? As it stands now, the article just doesn't present enough notability. Jmlk17 07:01, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok, let's go for the personal userpage: I'll work on it. Pragma2 (talk) 12:43, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Done. Jmlk17 06:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

A Gould[edit]


I noticed I was deleted from wikipedia (asher Gould) but don't understand why as I still meet all 3 of your criteria. I didn't write the original page. Anyway I'm still on talksport 5 nights a week and also have voiced,written and produced many shows this year with jaguar skills for Radio 1. Hopefully that clarifies matters.

A Gould Asher111 (talk) 14:47, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

The article was deleted per a discussion here. I'd suggest a deletion review as your best bet. Jmlk17 06:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Governments of present-day nations and states[edit]

You forgot to delete this one :) Maashatra11 (talk) 08:14, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Man... my quest for perfection is ruined! :) Jmlk17 08:15, 7 August 2010 (UTC)


Hi - why did you delete the AraPacis page, it met the rules for notability, having at least 2 albums out and being mentioned in as well as brave words and bloody knuckles, which are the references for heavy metal?

It seemed to be a bit in the gray area. Check out WP:BAND for a bit more info. Jmlk17 17:22, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Article certainly meets #1 - check out and again, search the name in and also, which are authorities on metal, I doubt they would publish news about an unknown band, thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:08, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Deletion review for AraPacis[edit]

An editor has asked for a deletion review of AraPacis. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review.


I'm an editor of wiki since 2005. I'd many names. I built up the articles (where you reverted my edits) from the very beginnings. Have you ever read real encyclopedias like English Britannica or German Brockhaus? The English form of the names are natural in the articles. Did you know that "mala fide/malicious" type moderators are removable in Wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 10:25, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I have. Yes I know that; you saying I'm a malicious admin? Jmlk17 17:23, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I write this message to inform you about the behaviour of the blocked User:Stubes99. In spite of his ban, he continues with ease vandalazing articles. Aa it can be seen in his block log, on 11 August the initial 2 weeks block was extended by your colleague JamesBWatson for "further block evasion and vandalism" (he evaded through annonymus IPs and the account User:Stears555)

But unfortunately, that did not stop him and he keeps defying the rules. He evades with nonchalance his block and attacked the following articles:

  • On Long campaign artcle he adds information had have as a source an internet site: [6] (IP:, 14 august)
  • Through the IP he tries to continue his old dispute about genetics on Hungary talk page

(13 august)

Can you please extend User:Stubes99 1 month block? It would be also useful to protect Lajos Kossuth against his attacks (some article were already protected to keep him away: Hungary, Ányos Jedlik, Louis I of Hungary) ( (talk) 06:45, 18 August 2010 (UTC))

Church of the Holy Sepulchre‎‎[edit]

Hello Jmlk17, in this edit you wrote that the church is within the legal and internationally recognized borders of Israel. The Church is in East Jerusalem east of the Green Line. What evidence do you have that it is within " the legal and internationally recognized borders of Israel"? Also, Israel does not have a "legal and internationally recognized borders" with the Palestinian territories or with Syria. The closest thing to "borders" that Israel has are the lines drawn up in the 1949 Armistice agreements. The territory that Israel holds outside of those boundaries are considered by the UN, the ICRC, and nearly every state on the planet to be held in a state of belligerent occupation. East Jerusalem and the Church are not within what is recognized as Israeli territory. Could you please revert your edit and join the discussion on the talk page? Thanks, nableezy - 17:39, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

My mistake. I misinterpreted. Jmlk17 17:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, nableezy - 18:30, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

thanks for speediness[edit]

Hello! it was the first time I reported a possible vandal and you have been really fast, I'm impressed! thank you very much, cheers, Hope&Act3! (talk) 18:34, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

I try my best :) Jmlk17 19:06, 7 August 2010 (UTC)


I could have fixed your objection about importance quite easily as AraPacis is a significant player in the Montreal music scene and has been for quite some time. Furthermore, those involved in the band, specifically Jerry Fielden, basically built said scene. But how do I add this information now that the page is deleted? I know it's "speedy deletion", but at least give people the chance to improve your perceived criticisms. Matthew Cadrin (talk) 18:37, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

  • Also, I was reading the "Speedy Deletion" policy, why wasn't I notified that a page I created was set for deletion, as suggested by the policy? I'm less upset by the page deletion than I am with the arbitrariness of the action taken and the lack of recourse to appeal; especially considering it was a decent article, no featured article to be sure, but not a one-liner stub. Thinking more on importance, I realize there is a subjective component. To you, AraPacis is not important, yet a segment of Montreal would vocally disagree. Why does your opinion of importance matter more than theirs? Matthew Cadrin (talk) 18:47, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
My opinion is no more important than anyone else on the site. All I was doing was working on administration backlogs. From the page, an issue with notability caused the deletion. Check out that page for a bit more info, and we can go from there, either with a restoration of the page, or perhaps a deletion review. Jmlk17 19:12, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm noticing that the AraPacis page (which I didn't create but did keep up to date) keeps getting deleted despite our band (yes, I'll be up front, I'm the guitarist) having 2 albums out, being on several compilations and being talked about in the news of the 2 most important metal web zines on the Web. Could you please restore it. Thank you! Slugguitar (talk) 20:00, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
Please restore this page, thanks! More details on BW&BK (talk) 02:02, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

Good day, I asked for a deletion review, thanks! Slugguitar (talk) 14:07, 26 December 2010 (UTC)


Please tell me that when you removed the bad report from AIV that you at least read it and acted to revert the vandalism. (talk) 18:39, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

I definitely did check to see if the vandalism was reverted (it was). WP:AIV is more repeated vandals/spammers, to help get admin attention. So no worries! Jmlk17 19:09, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

Block evasion[edit]

The blocked user User:Stubes99 is evading his block: [7] (Rogvaiv1 (talk) 12:55, 8 August 2010 (UTC))

Thanks for the heads up! :) Jmlk17 16:20, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
possible new sock (edited some of the favourite articles of User:Stubes99)[8] (Rogvaiv1 (talk) 20:35, 8 August 2010 (UTC))
and again [9]. He has edited the article Louis I of Hungary: [10] where Stubes99 was the only active editor: It seems Stubes99 has a dynamic IP ( I propose a indefinite block for improperer language (he called me idiot or dog of the moderators) (Rogvaiv1 (talk) 05:36, 9 August 2010 (UTC))
Man, it never stops does it? Getting it looked into. Thanks again. :) Jmlk17 07:18, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your help. (Rogvaiv1 (talk) 07:25, 9 August 2010 (UTC))
Excuse me for being so insistent, but I would like to add that I would be grateful if Stubes99 will be punished for his words ("idiot", "little dog") on my talk page (Rogvaiv1 (talk) 07:45, 9 August 2010 (UTC))
+1 sock ip [11] (Rogvaiv1 (talk) 08:43, 9 August 2010 (UTC))
User:Stears555 is 99% the new sock of User:Stubes99. He edited 3 articles where he contributed on the previous account and sent you this message [12]. Please check him. He accepted by himself [13] that he is a sock master ( (talk) 05:22, 10 August 2010 (UTC))

Mark Twain Move Protection[edit]

I think you've erred on this - did you mean to set move=sysop? Connormahtalk 07:10, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Whoops... thanks for the heads up. Good looking out. Jmlk17 07:13, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Too small?[edit]

Hi! Aren't these screenshots (NHL 11) too small? These screenshots fit perfectly on my screen! /HeyMid (contributions) 23:38, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Might just be my crappy computer and screen. Feel free to revert me :) Jmlk17 16:31, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Benjamin Franklin Protection[edit]

Prior to PC, Franklin was in indef semi, and I think that should be reinstated (when the 3 month expires, school will be in, probably resultin gin schoolkid vandalism). Could you re-set it to indef? Thanks. Connormahtalk 18:19, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. Done. Jmlk17 16:41, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
indef semi-protection I can understand, but full?--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:44, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Much better, thx. :-) --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:46, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
Way too early here still... a broken typing finger doesn't help much either. Good eye, and thanks for keeping me on my toes! :) Jmlk17 16:47, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Baobab (software) deletion[edit]


Baobab (software) got deleted by you, after some notability warning was put up for some time on it. I'm not saying that it is or isn't notable enough, but it did raise 2 questions: - what is 'suggestion software'? - instead of just deleting the content, it would have made sense to incorporate (some) content into the article on Disk space analyzer, which is a stub and could use more information. You didn't do so, but maybe you got some good reason not to? I'm curious.

have a nice day. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 20:21, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

a bit late..[edit]

I've been inactive recently or else I would've realised much sooner! Welcome back, mate. —Dark 08:31, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks buddy! Jmlk17 16:36, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


I'm afraid by clicking on the wrong link I have just blocked you. What really makes me feel silly is that after correcting my mistake I then did it again. Sorry. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:17, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Man, what did I do?!? :) Jmlk17 16:36, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
That is basically a typical mistake new admins make. See JBW's RFA. He has been an admin here for only 1 and a half months, at the time of writing. /HeyMid (contributions) 18:29, 12 August 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for the tip! I don't know if you have any influence on the decision, but if you can, please protect that page. Again thank you! Tibullus (talk) 19:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Holy Crap[edit]

I thought you were gone for good, it's great to see you back. I've been on a break, mostly because this is a busy time of the year for me, work-wise. I will be back to normal editing before too long. Trusilver 23:57, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Glad to see you too my friend!!! Jmlk17 02:30, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Tunnels and Trolls[edit]

Thanks for stepping in. I was trying to wait for a third opinion, but this has really gotten out of hand--the anon editor is continuing to re-insert his changes, as you can see [here]. --BRPierce (talk) 17:12, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Anytime. The page is a bit hectic right now. Jmlk17 18:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)


Hi! This is not proper use of the rollback feature. WP:Rollback does not mention "good faith" or "AGF". The rollback feature should only be used for doing obvious vandalism, not for reverting any good faith edits. Otherwise, you may be taking a risk of loosing your rollback rights. /HeyMid (contributions) 18:21, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

They'd be taking my admin rights away too then. Jmlk17 18:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Also, see here. Jmlk17 18:24, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
That is not relevant to what I wrote to you, I have read the section you link to above. /HeyMid (contributions) 18:29, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Sounds good. Jmlk17 18:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
It's pretty darn relevant. Besides, the edit was unsourced, unencyclopedic, and had been previously reverted. Jmlk17 18:41, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
Just so you know, I am not an admin, so I can't judge on whether you should be blocked or not for that. /HeyMid (contributions) 19:42, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
I know. Not block-worthy anyway though. Jmlk17 20:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
And I never said that either... /HeyMid (contributions) 20:24, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
There is no reason why rollback wasn't perfectly acceptable to use under the circumstances. Don't forget that the person involved ignored a warning and recreated previously reverted content. Heymid, while your zeal is commendable, think of all the other things you could have done with the time spent quibbling over the minutia of a irrelevant situation. Trusilver 01:20, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Very much so. Jmlk17 08:27, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

Markoff protection[edit]

Good call - thanks for making it so quickly, sparing hours of needless revert work. Cheers Tvoz/talk 17:37, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Of course. Jmlk17 17:48, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

The Arts Music Store - deletion[edit]


I was asked by the owner of the company to write a brief history of the company since I have personally been part of it since it's beginning. I removed the context of the music school and added the relevance that it's a Canadian Music store that's been in business for over 26 years and according to CMT magazine (our trade magazine) it's now in the Top 10 financially largest Music Stores 2009. Since we receive inquiries from all over the world on a daily basis, he figured that a brief history of the business would be good for our customers.

I hope this article now meets your specifications. Please let me know If I've overlooked anything, I kept it as 3rd person and non-biased as possible.

Thanks Rik Hawkins —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slicklocrian (talkcontribs) 19:28, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Please check out our notability guidelines for a bit more information. Jmlk17 19:36, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

Faramarz Aslani[edit]

Why did you delete the Faramarz Aslani page? He is one of the most respected Iranian musicians. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dubdubd (talkcontribs) 06:43, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

The Bad Girls Club (season 5)[edit]

Hey, can you please semi-protect this article? People keeps adding and deleting information EVERYDAY and I need it to stop! so can you help me, thanks. AJona1992 (talk) 23:14, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Done. Jmlk17 01:22, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for warning him. I do not know the policies of wikipedia as usually the other people warn him. He has made many edits in the past which I have had to revert and he doesn't even answer his own talk page. He has also done a lot on the Q train also and the C recently. Anyways, thanks again man.--IGeMiNix (talk) 02:53, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Yep, has done it 3 more times to the 5 train page since I have gone off. What actions should be taken?--IGeMiNix (talk) 14:14, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry lol, didn't see he was blocked. Can you add a protect on the 5 page?--IGeMiNix (talk) 14:17, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
No problem. I added a protection to the page. Hopefully this helps! Jmlk17 21:22, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
Thanks again! When the IP is unblocked, he is going to probably target another page.--IGeMiNix (talk) 00:02, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
It would not surprise me, but let's cross that bridge when we come to it. :) Jmlk17 00:02, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Yep, I will keep you posted as I tend to stalk his edits. XD Usually I have to revert many of them.--IGeMiNix (talk) 01:41, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you man, it seems that still wants to vandalize after his block. You mind putting a prot on both R160A and R160B pages? Thanks.--IGeMiNix (talk) 16:13, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Never a bother. Done. :) Jmlk17 17:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks and damn Daniel blocked him for a week lol.--IGeMiNix (talk) 05:18, 23 August 2010 (UTC) he is back and not learning.--IGeMiNix (talk) 18:16, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Belated welcome back =)[edit]

Hey there :P Saw you were active and wanted to show some love. Cheers =) --slakrtalk / 04:57, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Thanks man! :) Jmlk17 07:53, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Warning Users/IP's[edit]

When warning users, can you please revert their vandalism first? I just reverted this edit (diff) which then reported the user to AIV because you had placed a 4im warning on the page without reverting. Thanks - Happysailor (Talk) 12:40, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Ah, looking at it again, I'm guessing we had an edit conflict? Face-smile.svg - Happysailor (Talk) 12:42, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Scrap all that, i'm losing my mind Face-sad.svg - Happysailor (Talk) 12:45, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Not a problem; it happens to the best of us. Jmlk17 00:03, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Edit on the Taco page[edit]

I wasn't vandalizing the page, I was trying to correct the term "tacos de camerones". That is not how you say shrimp tacos in Spanish. The correct term is "tacos de camaron". Do you speak spanish? You are using a plural. You wouldn't say shrimps tacos would you? Please don't assume all edits are vandalism. I admit I didn't leave a message with my reason but it was also obvious I was not vandalizing the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ldogg328 (talkcontribs) 00:58, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

No, I do not speak any Spanish. Actually, I was simply working on a request that was listed at requests for page protection. Jmlk17 02:26, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
Also, I'm assuming you must be IP as well. I'd suggest you read a bit at WP:SOCK; just a heads up. Jmlk17 02:33, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Resource Based Economy[edit]

First of do you even know what it is? You keep putting a redirect to natural thing economy, either leave it at the article until someone writes a proper one or write the proper one yourself or you can give an external link to the Venus Project website page on the Resource Based Economy. The article itself is from the zeitgeist movement website witch is the activist arm of the Venus Project and the article is free to be shared. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:05, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but your editing has issues with some of our important policies. I understand it is free to be shared, but that doesn't mean it belongs on Wikipedia. Jmlk17 02:30, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

The Zeitgeist Movement[edit]

I've been skimming over the talk page. Most of the editors' main concern seems to be whether or not the content 'is beneficial to the movement' and 'describes the official position of The Zeitgeist Movement.' Critical viewpoints have also been repeatedly deleted. Looking through the history, most of the edits are from users who have never edited other articles, or only closely related articles. I believe that a major Conflict of Interest is going on, and I feel it should be brought to attention. Zazaban (talk) 19:50, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

The above user is vandalizing the page, please revert the changes he made. (Concepts Advocated) If you look at the references he put you can clearly see he misinterpreted the information. Actually, he did not just misinterpret it but he put the complete opposite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaby 64 (talkcontribs) 02:20, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

This appears to be a point-of-view (and perhaps conflict of interest) issue. I'd suggest talking to your fellow editors and see if you all can't get a good compromise worked out. Jmlk17 02:28, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
It should be noted that Gaby 64 seems to have registered for the sole purpose of complaining about me. Zazaban (talk) 03:06, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Red Wolf Disambiguation page[edit]

Whatever you did, we lost the link at the Red Wolf page to the Red Wolf (disambiguation) page. I tried to fix it but may have made the problem worse. Sorry! Chrisrus (talk) 03:57, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Do you mean Red Wolf (disambiguation)? Why does the article about the Red Wolf have the title Red wolf (lowercase)? It's the proper name of a wolf same as Red Poll is the name of a cattle breed. Moriori (talk) 04:09, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
That's why I'm here; Jmlk17 just changed that "W" to lower case, giving the reason that it was an "uncontavercial" move. Apparantly not! Chrisrus (talk) 04:15, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
If you saw his edit, you can see that he is only fulfilling a request that was being made, whether if it is "uncontroversial" is up to the people to discuss and decide whether another move is needed.--IGeMiNix (talk) 05:17, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Whatever about that, the point is any change made to the titles of red wolf and red wolf talk should not mess up red wolf (disambig), to be careful about that page too. Chrisrus (talk) 15:01, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Well it is changed back, so this discussion is pretty much over.--IGeMiNix (talk) 17:29, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of List of fictional magic users[edit]

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An article that you have been involved in editing, List of fictional magic users, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fictional magic users (2nd nomination). Thank you.

Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Axem Titanium (talk) 14:48, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello there i would like to know why you have previously deleted the page of Mr. Marwan Keyrouz? thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lebceleb (talkcontribs) 07:30, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Your error[edit]

This is a CSS (Cascading Style Sheets) change. "Defenseman" is not a variable for the attribute "text-align" in CSS. "center" means positioning the text elements in the center of each "cell" or "column" in a specific row. I thought all administrators know what they're doing, but I was recently laughing my head because of that mistake by you! /HeyMid (contributions) 14:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Glad you found it funny. Next time, do some more research and such before you add something like this. Besides, you removed this yourself, were chided by several users, and need to think before you edit in the future. But I digress. Jmlk17 22:23, 5 September 2010 (UTC)


No thank you, i was testing something out, next time i'll do it on a subpage...redblue82 (talk) 18:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. I'll remove the protection. Jmlk17 18:35, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

Is there a way...?[edit]

Is there a way to protect my userpage from anyone but me and administrators, like the script pages?--Redblue82 (talk) 21:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, to be honest, not to my knowledge. But I must admit that my technical know-how and work on scripts and such is just, well... non-existant. I'd suggest opening a topic at RFPP on the talk page. Sorry I couldn't be of more assistance! Jmlk17 21:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Bayeux Tapestry[edit]

I've seen translations, and that was pretty close. However, it was typed poorly (which I could improve upon), gave no reference (which I could), but is it even appropriate to have the entire text in the article (I'm not so sure)? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the translations are pretty darn good, but I must agree with you on the last part. Probably (at least in my opinion) doesn't even belong in the article. There are dozens of sources our there for the translations, and some great ones that take you through the tapestry and translate the latin as you go. Jmlk17 21:44, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
It's the translation of my own contribution from french article[14]
Don't be disturbed by the "telegraphic" style; it's the style of the tapestry it self (like incipit in books).
I can propose 1 reference : Andrew Bridgeford (trad. Béatrice Vierne), 1066, l’histoire secrète de la tapisserie de Bayeux, Éditiond du Rocher, coll. « Anatolia », 2004 (réimpr. 2005) (ISBN 2-268-05528-0)
I typed it exactly like in the tapestry (typed poorly), perhaps it have any sens perhaps not; I don't know.
--Qqchose2sucre (talk) 09:38, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

I think that the speed of your deletion, is connected to the unusual aspect of the typography and to the "telegraphic" style of the text (which could evoke vandalism). The initial request of source seemed to me unappropriate : the source is the tapestry itself ! The translation does not generally need source (there's a difference between the initial document (which can need source), and his translation which generally don't need).

About the presence of this section, I think that your reaction is the proof of its necessity: where can we find on internet this transcription with the exact typography. Maybe this typography have a sense, maybe not. Who know's ? For the moment I read no work to this subject, but the history of sciences is full of discoveries based on the observation of abnormalities, considered until then as errors or artefacts. In the French article this part raised no problem.

I think that I gave the precisions which were initially asked. Can you undo your the removal ? Or do you prefer that I'll put this section again, myself, with the asked precisions ? Thanks --Qqchose2sucre (talk) 08:48, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Up to you. A quick google search gives numerous sources of translations by the way. Jmlk17 17:03, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Ok I'll put it in a lower rank of the summary. What do you think about including the whole tapestry jpeg like in the french article : wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fe/Tapisserie_de_Bayeux_31109.jpg . Thanks. Qqchose2sucre (talk) 06:21, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Shoya Tomizawa[edit]

Hi Jmlk17

I'm wondering why you reverted without comment my removal (which was accompanied by an explanatory edit summary) of the {{recent death}} template from the above-captioned article. As you know, the template is only for articles that are currently being heavily edited. The article has been edited by 65 editors in the past 24 hours--and the editing was very heavy for the first several hours after the subject's death. However, in the past several hours the editing has slowed to a level far below the threshold indicated by the template instructions.

Thanks, Bongomatic 01:20, 6 September 2010 (UTC) Should you wish to reply, please do so here. I will watch this page for a few days, so no {{talkback}} or other comment on my talk page is required.

My apologies. I had a few different windows open, and didn't see your removal of the template right before I added it. Thank you for the heads up. Jmlk17 07:01, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
No worries--just wanted to know if there was a message there! Tx. Bongomatic 05:15, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Much obliged :) Jmlk17 05:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

BigDom's RfA[edit]

Thank you for your good humor. The average WP user could use a lighter attitude like yours. Cheers :) Efcmagnew (talk) 00:43, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Absolutely, and thank you! It gets way too serious around here sometimes, and people just need to learn how to not take everything so incredibly seriously! Jmlk17 17:37, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Steve May[edit]

Got to love this system of no protection conflicts. If you want to go back to the longer protection, please go right ahead. Courcelles 05:10, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Love it. It's all good :) Jmlk17 05:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Empty Headz[edit]

Hey! Don't want to come across rude or anything but why did you delete my Empty Headz page . Im trying to promote the band as we were winners from Blastbeat UK 2010, which have their own page. I'd really like my page back please It might not seem much to you, but it does to me And i hadn't fully finished applying the information if it was more so because it wasnt completed.

Lottie —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lanky larza (talkcontribs) 16:48, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Hi Lottie. I don't know for sure, but I can guess why (I've looked at the deleted article): the article you created didn't mention why the band are "significant or notable" - it just listed band members and genres. Take a look at this guideline for bands - it shows how we assess that a band is notable enough for a Wikipedia article. I'd recommend creating an article in your "userspace", for example at User:Lanky larza/Empty Headz, and then running it past other editors (Jmlk17, for example, or me) before you move the article into "article space". I'll leave it to Jmlk17 to discuss getting the information back to you. TFOWR 17:07, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Couldn't have said it better myself TFOWR. Thank you! Jmlk17 01:37, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: Curious[edit]

All i meant, was he's unnecessarily hostile towards people who have done nothing more than made un-notable edits, which should be taken as good faith.

I'm not suggesting that we do anything rash with him, but i'd like it if he could be a little cooler headed. He near enough threatens me in a great display of egotistical rankism on my talk page if you need an example —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kill me when i die (talkcontribs) 23:18, 8 September 2010 (UTC)


I saw your comment over at WP:UAA, to avoid a situation like this I was wondering if you could add Gamecock to the whitelist? Thanks, Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 09:59, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Good idea, thanks! Jmlk17 17:44, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome :) Ғяіᴆaз'§Đøøм | Champagne? 07:50, 10 September 2010 (UTC)


Thanks for the semi-protection on the Cribbing (horse) article. However, if you could be so kind as to watchlist it because a lot of the trouble is not coming from anon IPs, but registered users...may need to lock it down tighter until this little run of fun has finished its 15 minutes of fame... :-P Montanabw(talk) 23:00, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Anytime, always glad to help. I added it to my watchlist when I instated the protection; but here's to hoping the IPs will find something else to do out there. :) Jmlk17 23:01, 9 September 2010 (UTC)


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Hello, Jmlk17. You have new messages at RobertMfromLI's talk page.
Message added 04:55, 10 September 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Please restore Dollar Van Demos[edit]

Hi Jmlk17, I created a page for the web series Dollar Van Demos using the company name as the login to Wikipedia. I've changed the login to my name Joe Revitte and wish to have the Dollar Van Demos entry restored.

This is not a promotion-- we are an established series that is vitally important to many performing artists in New York City and viewers around the world. The entry also contained verifiable references to legitimate news sources that have featured Dollar Van Demos: namely, The Guardian, Time Magazine, and Entertainment Weekly. The next heading dealt with the series adaptation for a widely-distributed (on national tv and radio in the United States) commercial for McDonalds.

It only makes sense that anyone wanting more information on this series due to its visibility can look it up on Wikipedia.

Please reconsider your action and restore this entry.

thank you kindly, JR —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joe Revitte (talkcontribs) 17:07, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Will you be able to establish notability with third-party sources? Jmlk17 18:21, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Jmlk17,

As requested here are notable press entries from third-party sources on Dollar Van Demos:

The Guardian

Time Magazine,32068,326228576001_2008649,00.html

Entertainment Weekly Popwatch Site of the Day

New York Daily News (this was in the Brooklyn-only print edition --not avail online)

News12 Brooklyn (local cable news station from Cablevision)

Vibe Magazine


Also, here's the special purpose website 365 Black set up by McDonalds showing one of the commercials plus behind-the-scenes interviews about making the advertisements:

Thank you for your efforts and assistance! JRJoe Revitte (talk) 13:21, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

RfA thanks spam[edit]

Magog the Ogre (talk) 11:19, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Anaheim Ducks[edit]

Please do not remove the links to other Anaheim-based teams on the Anaheim Ducks season articles, it is something that allows someone to jump back and forth between teams in the city. This is a subsection in the "See Also" section that is already in the Los Angeles Rams seasons from 1980-1994, Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim seasons from 1980-present, and Anaheim Ducks seasons from 1993-present. --Andyhi18 (talk) 03:40, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Can you please review something for me?[edit]

Hi! I've just written a little guide and set of expectations for the new editors who have chosen me as their mentor (just joined the Adopt program as a mentor), and am hoping you can review it and provide some feedback on it's talk page to let me know what you think before I pass the link on to them. It is located here: User:RobertMfromLI/Adoptees. Thanks, Rob (ROBERTMFROMLI TALK/CNTRB 21:25, 20 September 2010 (UTC))

Wikipedia:Pending changes/Straw poll on interim usage[edit]

Hi. As you recently commented in the straw poll regarding the ongoing usage and trial of Pending changes, this is to notify you that there is an interim straw poll with regard to keeping the tool switched on or switching it off while improvements are worked on and due for release on November 9, 2010. This new poll is only in regard to this issue and sets no precedent for any future usage. Your input on this issue is greatly appreciated. Off2riorob (talk) 23:38, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

why did you delete the Manoochehr Sadeghi page?[edit]

I'm obviously not good at wikipedia.

many people have been bugging me to put more information about who my father is, the santur, persian music, etc....

but everything I try to do gets either manipulated the wrong way or deleted altogether.

I need to find someone with the knowledge to do this the right way and I'm willing to pay someone.

but there is a lot of information about persian classical music that's wrong on here.

and the Santur page, I've had to fight to keep it straight, but there are seriously loser players listed under "Notable Santur Players"

please help or advise me what to do


max sadeghi —Preceding unsigned comment added by Santurman (talkcontribs) 09:14, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I saw you deleted the page for my company, 352 Media Group, due to "Expired PROD, concern was: Long reference list, but none of them actually measure up. They're either very trivial mentions or self-published/press release stuff. I can't find anything more substantial." I'd love to be able to provide you with more relevant links. I agree the references were dated. I didn't want to personally change the page for fear of being accused of trying to advertise.

My company is one of the largest Web development companies in the US, and I want to make sure it is included while not stepping on any boundries. Any advice or help would be greatly appreciated!

Peter pvr @ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter352 (talkcontribs) 19:36, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Jared Jeffrey[edit]

Hi. I noticed you deleted this a while ago as an expired prod. However, the article was previously kept at AfD and shouldn't have been prodded. Would you mind restoring it please? Quantpole (talk) 11:00, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Done. Jmlk17 22:13, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

KVIrc page ready[edit]

Hi! I've reworked the KVIrc page as you suggested, adding external references and links. I think it's perfectly comparable with the pages of other IRC clients now. Do you think I can put it back in place ? Pragma2 (talk) 22:24, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Somehow this popped up on my watchlist, so I took a look. Maybe I'm wrong, but I see no evidence that this software achieves notability, i.e. has been discussed in multiple independent sources. Who has taken notice of this software, what did they have to say about it? Or put another way, can I write my own IRC client, no matter how crappy it is, list it on a bunch of freeware repositories, and get a Wikipedia article? Even if zero people ever review it or download it or actually use it day-to-day? Franamax (talk) 22:53, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, this, for instance, is a link showing notability. It means that kvirc is included in Ubuntu which is the major Linux distribution these times. this is another one related to Debian which is very unlikely to allow crappy software to be included in the distro. The link to the Free Software Foundation Directory Entry and the one that points to the Linux Software Map Entry dated 1999 also arent't just pointing to freeware repositories. I could give links to other linux distributions, user-written tutorials, youtube videos... but I don't think these make too much sense in a Wikipedia article: Google will show them up with the trivial query. If all these aren't enough to meet the notability guidelines then most of the pages of the clients listed in Comparison_of_IRC_clients should be deleted. Pragma2 (talk) 01:09, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
OK first of all, if you think other articles should be deleted, then propose they be deleted. But take my advice, DO NOT use "because my article was deleted" as your rationale, you will get jumped all over if you try it. Base your deletion rationale on sound policy arguments, not WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. You could go through that list of articles and check whether they have had AFD proposals in the past (look on the article talk page, there's usually a box at the top to explain if there previously was an AFD). Read those to see what elements need to be present for an article to be kept, and how to present a case that any Wikipedia article be deleted.
I only looked at two random articles from Category:Internet Relay Chat clients - both had independent mentions from outside sources, which is what I was looking for. Your proposed links are to related entities, for instance being part of a Linux distro doesn't convey any particular notability, since it's not inherited. You need examples of coverage by people who have nothing at all to do with the software.
I checked those two links again and you're quite right. They don't link to "freeware repositories", rather they point to "directories of freely reposited software" - which as you say, Google already does quite well for those interested in this particular system. And I didn't mean at all that this particular software is "crappy", I was talking about the predicted results if -I- were trying to write it. I have a long track record in writing crappy software. :) Franamax (talk) 02:36, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Well, indipendent people building packages of a software in order to include it in an indipendent Linux distro is an expression of a choice and can be assimilated to an indipendent mention. For KVIrc this choice is repeated since ten years by the most important distributions (so it's also multiple).
But maybe I've misunderstood the notability requirements (forgive me, I must admit that I'm quite a newbie) and I'm pointing out references that aren't exactly correct... We said that inclusion in most Linux distros isn't OK, reviews by "freeware repositories" aren't OK and vulnerability advisories aren't OK (I assume, as they are currently listed in the page). Blogs then? Tom's Hardware? Linux Weekly News? Independent User Forums? Independent Developer Forums? Can you point me to some examples of valid sources that other IRC clients use so I can lookup the KVIrc equivalents? Pragma2 (talk) 04:42, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
I've spent more time on reading notability guidelines and related articles (and thus attempting to decrease my level of newbieness). I understand that coverage in books might be a good source for notability. A book about a single IRC client is unlikely but a google-books query returns several mentions in publications with broader topic (linux, networking, security). Picking from the first ones: [15], [16], [17], [18], [19], [20]. Pragma2 (talk) 01:45, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Yes, you're getting better at this. :) Malware Forensics mentions it as a "popular" client, which is good. Unix Internet Relay Chat Clients would be great - but you'd either have to buy the book or get it through your local library system or at a university library. That looks like "in-depth coverage by an independent source" which is bang on the money for notability purposes. In response to your previous post, I'm aware of Tom's Hardware, I think it may be fairly respected i.e. above the level of a blog. Don't know much about the rest. Examples of valid sources other articles use: well I guess I -could- point them out to you, but that would take all the fun out of it for you. ;) You can read some other articles yourself and decide which are "good" sources and which are shaky. Independent, reputable, authoritative, in-depth coverage is what we look for - or as close to that as possible, it doesn't have to be a book by the dean of computer science at MIT. You can also ask at WP:COMPUTING, they will have a good idea of what is needed to show notability and what is a reliable source in these areas. Franamax (talk) 05:48, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
Yet more work on the subject. I've beautified the article a bit and added more WP:VERIFIABILITY sources.
I've also looked more deeply at the discussions regarding WP:AFD of the other IRC clients in order to find out the sources that have been accepted as notability proof. The AfD discussion about Konversation accepts Softpedia, LinuxLinks and LWN as reliable notability sources. KVIrc has entries on the same sites and one is even shared: [21], [22] and [23]. I've added them to the article. The Smuxi AfD discussion accepts Tom's Hardware reference which is again shared with KVIrc [24]. PIRCH lists some books as sources just like the KVIrc book references above. I don't know if it makes sense to add them all to the article.
It's quite hard to come out with something far better... none of the other challenged IRC clients seems to have references that look really "more authoritative" than the ones above (and this seems to be a common pattern visible in many non commercial software articles).
Anyway, if at least *some* of the sources I've cited are acceptable then the verifiability and notability is more evident in the article now... Pragma2 (talk) 23:47, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
The Unix Internet Relay Chat Clients book cannot be used as it is simply a reprint of Wikipedia content and using it would amount to an ouroboros. What I suggest for now is creating a Further reading section in the article draft and adding all of the reviews and other potential sources there. Those can then be integrated into the body of the article a few at a time. --Tothwolf (talk) 03:31, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Right: removed the self-reference. For the "Further reading" section you mean something like this? Pragma2 (talk) 04:02, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Looking at the current article state the notability seems evident. HelLViS69 (talk) 19:42, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Jammer (rapper)[edit]

Hi, I saw you salted this title a couple of years ago. I'd like to have it unprotected in light of the following media coverage: [25], [26], [27], [28], [29], [30]. It's no trouble to establish his notability now that he's released a full-length album, as these reviews should show. Chubbles (talk) 13:19, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Israel and the apartheid analogy[edit]

Hi there, you protected Israel and the apartheid analogy due to a row concerning a move of the page concerning which there was a mediated result, but other editors chose to not agree with it. Now it appears that the move isn't even discussed anymore so the protection could probably be lifted, there are a some improvement ideas around on how the text itself could be worked. Would you agree with this, or prefer to keep the protection for now? I don't know how long they normally go on. Cheers, --Dailycare (talk) 19:45, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

I unprotected it; hope you don't mind. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:03, 14 October 2010 (UTC)


Could you please userfy Saltriver to User:SMcCandlish/Incubator/Saltriver? (You were the deleting admin). Cursory Googling suggests this band is notable, and I think at least a sourced Start-class article would be easy. Dunno if anything in the deleted page is worth saving, but can't hurt to have a look. Thans. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(Õلō Contribs. 18:01, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Faramarz Aslani[edit]

Hi. I think this page has been deleted by error as he is a notable singer song-writer. Could you please restore Faramarz Aslani.

Thanks. Siba (talk) 12:42, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

This request came to my talk page today. I'd say the A7 was at least debatable (and I wouldn't have deleted it as such.) Since you've been gone for a fortnight, I've restored this after reviewing it myself. Courcelles 10:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Daniel "Cloud" Campos - Previous Deletion of page[edit]

Hi Jmlk17 :)

I created a wikipedia account just to create a (English) page for Daniel "Cloud" Campos, but I found that a page for said person had already been deleted twice by two different users (one of them being you ^_^) I can't figure out how to "talk" with the other person who deleted it previously, but I still wanted to ask you: what was insufficient about the previous page (not relevant, uninteresting, poorly written, no citation -- why am I elaborating on this, you're a pro. You know exactly what I'm talking about XD). Thanks for your time SalutBianca91 (talk) 19:33, 31 October 2010 (UTC)

International Association of Software Architects deleted[edit]

Hello we noticed that you deleted the page for International Association of Software Architects. We have been established for over 7 years. We have active certifications with large corporate adoption ( from some of the best known vendors and employers. We have an active membership and hold numerous conferences. We have over 35 chapters around the world. How can we go about getting our wiki page restored.

Paul Preiss, CEO, IASA —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 00:40, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

PS3 Media Server[edit]

I'd like to note that I have founded a wiki devoted to this particular GPL project--thus I believe the original issue of using the page as a "changelog" will be avoided in future...

Any chance we could get this unprotected--or at least semi? I would think it's been long enough since the pissing match which prompted the locking.

Unother (talk) 06:32, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Stubes99 sock?[edit]

If you get a minute, check the edits from User: More uncited POV Hungarian nationalism, same as User:Stubes99. I'm putting this on your talk page since you were involved in blocking that user. Thanks. - Special-T (talk) 04:41, 13 January 2011 (UTC)


Just an FYI, I restored the article per a request. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 20:59, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

Deleted Page - Cyrus Engerer[edit]

I tried today to create a page on the Deputy Mayor of the Sliema Local Council, Cyrus Engerer, however, I found out that a similar page was deleted. Why did it happen?

Maltasliema (talk) 23:09, 28 January 2011 (UTC)


why you deleted the article about Savvas Siatravanis? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:30, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

new Vanessa Warwick article[edit]

I see from the logs that you proposed for deletion (under BLP) an unsourced article about Vanessa Warwick. Having been doing some background research on her (I work in the property sector, among other places), I thought she was notable enough to be included (her seven-year stint as an MTV presenter outlasted others arguably less notable but who still have articles). Let me know what you think. Best wishes Paul W (talk) 17:09, 4 July 2011 (UTC)


YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:33, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

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Suspension of administrative permissions due to inactivity[edit]

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Deletion of playbattlefield from[edit]

Just wondering why was this game deleted? Is there something similar out there? Could it be brought back? or is it already back? I know it was 3 years ago... but curious to know if its still out there... :/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 07:44, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

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Join the dark side, we have cookies[edit]

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You were accepted to dark side for the following evil deed - deletion of this Wiki page:

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I'm afraid you are very unlikely to get a response from Jmlk17, as that he hasn't edited Wikipedia in two years. Trusilver 08:15, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Stop deleting stuff Jmlk17[edit]

You have deleted several valid pages, how/why you are still at it, while no one has stepped in is beyond me, but STOP IT. You obviously have 0 access to google or something. You have stated many times that some pages are just for people "rising" in fame, such as DJ Mangoo who is VERY well known for more than just "Eurodancer" So please do some research before mashing the delete button next time.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 05:07, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

I second this! You're mad man!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 03:35, 25 February 2013 (UTC) 

Yes, please stop deleting things that you have no idea about. thank you -Naam — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:49, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

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Seany B[edit]

Hey There,

I was about to create an article for Seany B, but note that there was one that you protected/deleted back in 2008. Since then, he has had another platinum selling single (#4) with Vanessa Amorosi (Mr Mysterious) plus various other singles and is releasing a new single today with Joel Fletcher. I was hoping to create an article on him now and I believe he is now notable. I've not been in this situation before, so let me know how you go about you review this information, or it is unprotected for a while that I add into it directly and you review or what not. Thanks heaps, T

Happy Adminship Anniversary Jmlk17[edit]

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Mesut Kurtis page[edit]


Could you please tell me why Mesut Kurtis page was deleted? When I tried to start a new one, it said it could not be established. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Salmats2al (talkcontribs) 08:47, 21 August 2014 (UTC)

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the acquitted felons[edit]

you have deleted a page for the band "The Aquitted Felons" because they don't have significance? But I disagree. They were the group that began the desert sessions. Look up Josh Homme. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:47, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

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Request unlock for article deleted (Brad Kroenig)[edit]

You could unlock the article deleted Brad Kroenig for me to make new adjustments? I look forward for your understanding. Brenhunk (talk) 20:54, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

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Akshay is protected...[edit]

Hello Jmlk17. I just created a page Akshay (given name). It should really be called just Akshay, but the Akshay page was deleted by you in April 2008 and is protected. Any chance you could unprotect it and then move my page Akshay (given name) to become Akshay please? Thanks. — Hebrides (talk) 21:55, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

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High School Musical 4[edit]

It has been announced that there will be a High School Musical 4. I was just about to create a redirect when I saw that you had salted the page. Now that the project has been announced I think the redirect is necessary. Cindlevet (talk) 23:07, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Wondering about reology, what it is and why the page was deleted. Any information, please? Thank you.Asnen (talk) 21:50, 8 June 2016 (UTC) BTW, I found a reference to reology on a psychology website, and blog, I guess, run by two therapists who, I think, are claiming to be "reologists."Asnen (talk) 21:50, 8 June 2016 (UTC)