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    Service awards[edit]

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    Here is a plain lightly shaded (for accessability) thoughtbox. It can be used for a many different purposes. JoeHebda • (talk) 16:26, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

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    Welcome![edit]

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    JoeHebda, you are invited to the Teahouse[edit]

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    WikiProject SuggestBot request (April 18, 2015)[edit]

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    JoeHebda (talk) 18:06, 18 April 2015 (UTC)

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    • WikiProject_Saints
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    Congrats...[edit]

    "What a Brilliant Idea!" Barnstar.png The Tip of the Day Barnstar
    is hereby awarded to JoeHebda for taking up the reins at this department and its corresponding library. Thank you for all the new tips! The Transhumanist 21:00, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

    Thank you[edit]

    Your efforts have made it possible for the Tip of the day to return to its high help profile. Therefore...

    "What a Brilliant Idea!" Barnstar.png The Tip of the Day Barnstar
    is hereby awarded (for the second time) to JoeHebda, for revitalizing the TOTD department and its tip library, and increasing the quality of the tip collection to be worthy of display upon Wikipedia's main help page once again. Congratulations. Sincerely, The Transhumanist 22:29, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

    Happy New Year JoeHebda![edit]

    Change of signature[edit]

    Update: yesterday changed signature from default to a custom signature. JoeHebda| Talk 13:10, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

    Another signature update with shading.  JoeHebda (talk)  03:05, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

    Template:AbQ Pie[edit]

    Hi JoeHebda,

    may you please fix that template? It's only showing the default pie slices.--Kopiersperre (talk) 14:43, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

    Greetings Kopiersperre – I am confused because I made no changes to this template. It was last updated 02:46, 15 December 2015‎ Yurik (talk | contribs)‎. Secondly, I would recommend taking this question to WP:VPT (Village Pump-Technical) where they can help you. Please let them know exactly what WP article you are seeing the error at. Last of all, I only joined Wikipedia in April 2014, and am still somewhat new. Also have no wiki-knowledge of pie charts. Cheers!  JoeHebda (talk)  15:24, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
    (talk page stalker). Hi Joe and Kopiersperre. The last good version of AbQ Pie is here. Click on next version and you will see that it falls apart after that. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 23:46, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
    @That Video Shop Guy: May you fix that?--Kopiersperre (talk) 13:54, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
    Hi Joe and Kopiersperre. AbQ Pie template is now fixed: Template talk:AbQ Pie. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 13:01, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

    Tip of the day on your user page[edit]

    Hi Joe. I noticed on your user page that your tip of the day is stuck on August 25. You can make it dynamic by transcluding the TOTD template of your choice by placing that template on your user page (with the four curly braces). Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 23:31, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

    Checkingfax – A copy of Wikipedia:Tip of the day/August 25 – Where to look for help is kept here on my user page for these reasons: first, so that I can jump to these help locations while searching for new TOTD ideas. Secondly with all the updates being done, even though it's kept in Revision history, I want to keep an extra copy here just in case it gets overlaid with another tip. Lastly my dates memory' is not as sharp to remember that Aug. 25 is one of 366 tips.
    * Question for Checkingfax and The Transhumanist – Should a link to tip Wikipedia:Tip of the day/February 5 – Getting real-time help via IRC (Internet Relay Chat) be added to Aug. 25 list? My vote would be * Approve.  JoeHebda (talk)  13:41, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
    Joe, Roger that on why you have August 25 on static. Good idea! I thought maybe you had just overlooked it, like I would 718smiley.svg
    I will defer to The Transhumanist on what do do with the IRC tip. But, it sounds logical to me. Headed off to do some IRC with Dispenser regarding WP:Checklinks. Cheers! {{u|Checkingfax}} {Talk} 13:51, 31 January 2016 (UTC)

    Catholic-Hierarchy.org[edit]

    Hello. I noticed that you have edited a number of articles on Catholicism. A discussion is taking place as to whether the website Catholic-Hierarchy.org is a reliable source that can be utilized on Wikipedia or whether all references and information derived from it should be deleted. This topic is currently being discussed at the Reliable Sources Noticeboard [1]. As the website's removal as a reference will affect several thousand Wikipedia articles, I believe that the broadest range of opinions should be obtained before action is taken. Please contribute if interested.Patapsco913 (talk) 22:07, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

    Your edit to Talk:JAWS (screen reader)[edit]

    Hi Joe, I think I understand why you made this edit to the talk page for JAWS, because the DOS version has been released as freeware, but freeware is not the same thing as free software at all ... the latter term implies that the source code is freely available and modifiable, which is most certainly not true for any incarnation of JAWS. In fact your edit there is one of the most unintentionally funny things I've encountered on Wikipedia ... pretty much the blindness community equivalent of tagging Talk:Microsoft Windows with the free software project tag! Oh well, we live and learn. Graham87 10:45, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

    Greetings Graham87 – Thanks for the communication. Should the List of screen readers entry for JAWS here be updated? I see other lines with freeware so perhaps a note under the table explaining Freeware definition? Regards,  JoeHebda (talk)  14:56, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
    Nope, the JAWS entry is fine. The entries in the list of screen readers that are released as open-source are clearly marked as such, so I don't see the point of adding a further distinction for freeware. Graham87 15:08, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

    From the Recruiter's desk at "The Signpost"[edit]

    Hi Joe, I just saw your post at User talk:Leeds United FC fan#"The Signpost" - Newsroom updated for WikiProject desk. Sorry I didn't see the ping. Would you be interested in working at "The Signpost"? I hope you say 'yes' and if so, just let me know what area(s) interest you and we can talk some more. Best, --Rosiestep (talk) 17:41, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

    Argh. And another one of your posts that I missed: User talk:Leeds United FC fan#Tip of the day, completed Interview for The Signpost. I'm adding @Go Phightins!, our co-Editor-in-Chief, here who can sort out how we might add the Tip of the Day interview to an upcoming issue. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:50, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
    Greetings Rosiestep – Also add what I posted on January 28 at Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/WikiProject desk#Interview requests. And sadly, no response... wondering how many (or few) are monitoring that page. Also posted at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council and no responses their either. Even though there are page Watchers, I wonder if there is something that I'm missing communication-wise?
    About helping at "The Signpost" - Since my retirement in July 2014, I'm enjoying my time at Wikipedia doing updates (as a hobby), dividing my efforts between writing new tips at Wikipedia:Tip of the day and article assessments at Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism. For TOTD, yesterday I completed "the big push" for February & am looking forward to a mini-break before taking on March TOTD. Before committing to volunteering at SP, let me spend some time this week reading more at the SP guidance pages. Not sure of how I could help, other than to say, maybe something WikiProject Desk related. Regards,  JoeHebda (talk)  14:08, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
    Those WikiProject are good suggestions. I think that the WikiProject Desk might be a good fit for you. It does not have to be a regular (weekly) report, e.g. if no WikiProject has responded to an interview request, no worries. We (the Signpost Editorial Board) don't have someone coordinating the WikiProject Desk (someone who focuses on and follow-ups on interview requests), so if this seems like something you'd be interested in doing, I'd welcome speaking with you regarding Next Steps. Best, --Rosiestep (talk) 15:21, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
    Rosiestep – After reviewing WP Desk info, I noticed it could use a "Call for interviews" that can be posted at WikiProject talk pages in order to help find interviewees. The discussion is here. Cheers!  JoeHebda (talk)  20:01, 17 February 2016 (UTC)

    John Gregory Kelly[edit]

    Many thanks for helping with the editing of the Bishop John Gregory Kelly article-RFD (talk) 17:24, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

    Disambiguation link notification for February 26[edit]

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    Disambiguation link notification for March 4[edit]

    Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited List of Catholic saints, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Ame. Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.

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    At the AME disambig page, I added these three entries to clarify. Hope it is not too confusing.
    • Saint Ame, a Benedictine abbot and hermit who is also called Saint Amatus.
    • Saint Aimé, the abbot of the Agaune monastery in Switzerland and bishop of the Sens (or Sion) diocese.
    • Saint-Amé, a commune in the Vosges department in Lorraine in northeastern France.

    Thank you DPL bot for sending me this message. Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 14:00, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

    Franciscus Monachus[edit]

    Thanks for your additions to the above page. I'm not sure that Monachus would be happy to be categorised as a priest :-)  Peter Mercator (talk) 13:11, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

    Today I included some additional categories. JoeHebda • (talk) 14:58, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

    About the Wikipedia:Community portal[edit]

    There was true consensus to add "Create these articles" (which {{Recent changes article requests}} will be transcluded to it), "Represent a worldwide view" and "Add historical information" to the Community Portal's "help out" section (cf. Wikipedia talk:Community portal/Archive 18#RfC: Add three blocks to the "help out" section), however no one practiced this request. Hope that you will add these three blocks to the portal a.s.a.p. Thanks!--RekishiEJ (talk) 11:31, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

    Greetings RekishiEJ – Please see tasks needed to complete that I posted here. Thank you for contributing WP improvements. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 14:07, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

    Wikipedia Authoring[edit]

    Was wondering if you would be interested in Contracting to Author a wikipedia article on behalf of a small, faithful Catholic company. If so, please contact me at mattjdunn@ascensionpress.com (redacted) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.204.121.242 (talk) 17:30, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

    flag Redflag  Not possible – no No action No Not done and not likely to be done JoeHebda • (talk) 20:58, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

    Cat[edit]

    I don't know if category:Latin religious phrases is suitable for the parts of the Mass, which are much more than "phrases". I would understand category:Latin religious texts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:31, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

    Gerda Arendt – There is Category:Latin words and phrases which might also be useful. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 21:39, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
    English is not my first language, I may have a problem understanding. I think "phrase" is a way-too-small term for the Credo, for example, a complex text, much more than a phrase. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:47, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

    Saints[edit]

    Hello, You removed the WP Saints banner from Jordan of Pisa; however the scope of that project is not restricted to those who have been canonized. It is concerned with "articles about people venerated by some Christians as saints or the blessed" e.g. the article Beatification is within its scope.--Johnsoniensis (talk) 20:17, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

    Thanks Johnsoniensis for letting me know. I was not aware that the Saints WP is that "generic" and will keep that in mind going forward. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 12:42, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

    Wikiproject[edit]

    Hello, you should totally add yourself to the list of wikiproject participants since you have edited the page a few times. Thanks a million! Ilikeguys21 (talk) 15:50, 2 May 2016 (UTC) Edit Page Here <<<

    Greetings Ilikeguys21 – Thanks for the invite. While I do have a passing interest in herbs & spices, foods & nutrition, my primary focus on Wikipedia is elsewhere. When I was in school, for three years I was a library volunteer so I do have a wide variety of interests. While working on WP:TOTD and WP:TIPS I did make up an invitation here for that WP. Perhaps you could clone that one and use to invite others to the Essential Oils WP. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 18:03, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

    Thank you very much Joe. I will be using this everywhere now. Ilikeguys21 (talk) 18:42, 2 May 2016 (UTC)

    Star the Dog[edit]

    Joe

    I appreciate you fixing the Star the Dog page very much. One concern I have is Star is globally know as Star the Dog or by her facebook page and many articles Star - The New York Pit Bull. Is it possible to give the page the name Star - The New York Pit Bull? I appreciate any help.

    Thank you, Charlie 108.167.4.178 (talk) 03:27, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

    Is there consensus on Catholic-hierarchy.org[edit]

    Joe - there doesn't seem to be a consensus that Catholic-hierarchy.org is not a reliable source. I suppose it theoretically qualifies as a "self-published source", though the discussion at the RS noticeboard doesn't even have consensus on that issue. Accordingly, I've reverted your edit to Roman Catholic Diocese of Zipaquirá, but left your tagging of the CH sources as "self-published" alone. Argyriou (talk) 20:06, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

    Greetings Argyriou – This topic about self-published sources has been raised in the past. Here is the related discussion.
    * Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity/Noticeboard/Archive 8#Manual of style for WikiProject Christianity
    * Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources#Questionable and self-published sources
    At present, I recall there may have also been a Teahouse question. Based on this, here is what I have been doing when improving Catholicism articles.
    1. If the Catholic-hierarchy.org appears at References section, I add the [self-published source] tag.
    2. For articles where there is a CH line in External links section, it is removed. It's my understanding that criteria for EL is stricter than References.
    Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 20:27, 10 May 2016 (UTC) `

    More info from Catholic-Hierarchy talk page[edit]

    At Talk:Catholic-Hierarchy and look at WP:WEB section title. Here is a partial quote from there.

    From a quick look at the WP:WEB criteria, I don't think the site meets them. While the site is heavily used and has been around for some time (roughly 5 years at the current url), it is unofficial.--Dcheney 19:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

    Hope this helps to clarify. JoeHebda • (talk) 21:22, 10 May 2016 (UTC)

    A second quote:

    A discussion took place as to whether the website Catholic-Hierarchy.org is a reliable source that can be utilized on Wikipedia. This topic is located at Reliable Sources Noticeboard: catholic-hierarchy.org.Patapsco913 (talk) 00:39, 4 February 2016 (UTC)

    Further clarification[edit]

    After more research, I am adding the following guidance for Catholic-Hierarchy.org usage in Wikipedia articles.

    For article:

    It is also helpful to append the "|date=" parameter. Adding these templates alerts article readers of the self-published source. Maintenance editors can add these templates so that expert editors may then improve the article by locating other, reliable sources. Expert editors can then remove these templates after their updates. JoeHebda • (talk) 00:14, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

    It might be easier (if technically possible) to add it to the existing templates for references to the website. --Dcheney (talk) 00:44, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
    An additional note, first quote above is accurate, but was related to a discussion of whether or not my website should have a separate article. I have taken no position in that discussion as it would be a COI, imo. I'm not sure how that impacts whether it is a reliable source. As always, I am happy to answer any questions regarding my website. --Dcheney (talk) 04:13, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

    List of canonizations[edit]

    There is a merge tag on this page dating back to November 2013. The discussion is as follows:
    I am proposing to merge List of saints by pope with this article. They both are duplicate of each other. --Jayarathina (talk) 16:43, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

    Yup. (Although, honestly, while this is a better article, I think that one has a better namespace. I'm usually all for brevity, but this one is rather unclear as to the subject.) — LlywelynII 17:11, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

    The proposed merge was in progress. (Frankly, the tables in List of saints by pope look better.) How do you make that vandalism unless this is a clear case of WP:OWNER? Mannanan51 (talk) 18:53, 12 May 2016 (UTC) p.s Simeon of Mantua was not canonized in the same year of his date of death. ---and you removed a RS backing that up.

    @Jayarathina: @LlywelynII: and @Mannanan51: – Even though I've been updating WP Catholicism related articles since 2014, there is still some WP jargon that confuses me. Looking over these two lists, I think it would be easier to:
    1. Continue updating content for List of canonizations with dates; most recent List of canonizations#Pontificate of Pope Benedict XIV (7).
    2. Place a redirect at List of saints by pope to point to List of canonizations since there is much less content & duplicates the canonization list.
    Sorry that I missed the tag about merging. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 20:57, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

    Reporting: Gadget only works with Vector skin, javascript error[edit]

    Greetings, This report at Village Pump technical is now archived at: Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 144#Reporting: Gadget only works with Vector skin, javascript error.

    Note that the report was posted with {{DNAU}}.

    Unresolved issue is archived - How to "UN-Archive"?[edit]

    Greetings, A problem awaiting resolution is now archived here and tracked at phabricator:T126553.

    If it's not possible to pull back from archive, does it need to be re-posted again?

    Regards,  JoeHebda (talk)  19:04, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

    @JoeHebda: Just post the new question, with a link back to the archived thread. --Redrose64 (talk) 21:39, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
    If I re-post again here, will it be archived again before the issue is solved? Just wondering... JoeHebda (talk)  02:19, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
    Possibly; archiving bots do not take any notice of whether a thread has been replied to or not. Threads on this page are archived if they've not been posted to for five days. So if nobody responds here before the next bot run that occurs after 10:30, 5 March 2016 (UTC), it will be archived. --Redrose64 (talk) 10:30, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
    Redrose64 – Thanks for the update. Yesterday I did repost the new VPT archive link to Wikipedia talk:User scripts#Fix needed: Gadget only works with Vector skin, script error which was orginally posted on Feb. 15th. Wondering if there might be a better place to post where the issue can be fixed? Without waiting for months for a resolution? If I knew anything about scripts (which I do not) I would attempt to fix myself. Regards,  JoeHebda (talk)  13:39, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── 1) ω Awaiting a solution – also see: MediaWiki:Gadget-mobile-sidebar and Wikipedia:Gadget.  JoeHebda (talk)  13:45, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

    @JoeHebda: You can use {{DNAU}} to prevent archiving. nyuszika7h (talk) 21:26, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

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    Aid to the Church in Need[edit]

    Category:Catholic charities is a subcategory of Category:Religious organizations. It shouldn't be in both. and it doesn't seem to belong in Category:Development charities. It appears more focussed on religion than economic development. I'm not clear whether it is a Category:Religious service organizations, because I'm not very clear what the boundaries of the category are. Rathfelder (talk) 19:17, 4 June 2016 (UTC)


    Hi my good friend[edit]

    sorry for not fixing yet mostly articles that i created on spanish demolished landmarks, is i spend now time for my life, but thanks to you for help on that. im seeing that everyday and thanks very much. the gramatical errors and some messes in these months i will fix. A Salute--Vvven (talk) 14:12, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

    Many Thanks[edit]

    Many thanks for helping with the article about A. Lucille Matarese. I used her legal name in the article instead of the religious name she took when Matarese entered Abbey of Regina Laudis. She had served in the Connecticut General Assembly before she entered the convent. Also the Connecticut Bar Association and the Connecticut voters list used her legal name not her religious name.RFD (talk) 12:55, 11 August 2016 (UTC)

    Acta Diurna[edit]

    Thanks for properly assessing those articles. I feel stupid right now. — JudeccaXIII (talk) 21:10, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

    JudeccaXIII – That's okay, from time to time I have seen this with other articles. Before changing these, I was considering whether to also add WP History or not, but that one might be too generic. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 00:31, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

    Reverts[edit]

    You made no effort to determine if the Catholic Church in these countries were exclusively Latin Church or included Eastern Catholic Churches. It is wholly unnecessary to specify this in the lede. Detail can be explained in the body of the article. Also the links did not comply with WP:SEAOFBLUE in that there were three wikilinks directly next to each other appearing as one. Finally, the specification "Roman Rite" does not apply to Church governance, only to liturgies, and of course, you made no effort to determine if there were Ambrosian Rite or Dominican Rite, etc., celebrations within these countries. Does not apply. Elizium23 (talk) 23:54, 27 October 2016 (UTC)

    Elizium23 – Thank you for the feedback & taking the time to explain this to me...much appreciated. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 12:50, 28 October 2016 (UTC)

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    Diocese of Aleria and tag 'unreliable source'[edit]

    Thank you for your additions to the article 'Diocese of Aleria'. I am happy to join you in your attitude toward 'Catholic-Hierarchy' as a putative reliable source. My additional problem is that the web site provides no way of checking information or following up information. That a source like Cheney's is considered 'generally reliable' is no help at all in identifying the reliability of specific pieces of information. The argument that 'Catholic-Hierarchy' is used by many web sites is not an argument that confers authoritativeness; it merely indicates that the site is convenient for many users. Keep tagging. Now, what about 'GCatholic.org. Gabriel Chow'? I have exactly the same problems. --Vicedomino (talk) 20:45, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

    Swapped tips[edit]

    I swapped the March 2 and March 17 tips, so that the "How to turn redirects green" tip shows up on St. Patrick's day.

    I hope you don't mind.

    I also updated the links to those 2 tips in the chronolist, the alphalist, and the library. Did I miss anything? The Transhumanist 20:09, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

    Greetings @The Transhumanist: That's a good idea & thanks for being bold! On the TOTD talk page, I updated the "March maintenance" as well. Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 01:02, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

    February 2017[edit]

    Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you recently removed maintenance templates from Convent of Jesus and Mary, Ambala. When removing maintenance templates, please be sure to either resolve the problem that the template refers to, or give a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Please see Help:Maintenance template removal for further information on when maintenance templates should or should not be removed. If this was a mistake, don't worry, as your removal of this template has been reverted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Every article needs references; even a stub ought to have references from the start. Please do not remove the "Unreferenced" template from any article unless it has references. Thanks. PamD 08:20, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

    Greetings PamD, A long time ago when I had added cleanup templates to the top of a stub article, another editor reverted those additions. I was advised this is "template overkill" because of existing stubs. Since then from time-to-time whenever I see these top-of-article templates, and the article is already stub, I've been removing these templates. Wondering if this is one of those "gray areas" that allow either condition? Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 14:45, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

    Tip of the day department[edit]

    I am impressed with what you've done with TOTD. Due to your efforts in revitalizing the tips, you re-earned their position on the main help page, and strengthened their presence on the community portal. The tips are helping more people than ever.

    TOTD is lucky to be under your care.

    I noticed that we both have the tip posted on our talk page. It occurred to me that our monitoring may catch errors too late. That is, a faulty tip might go half the day before one of us spots it.

    We have a tool for this, that I totally forgot about...

    It's {{totd-tomorrow}}, which displays the tip one day early.

    It might be a good idea to display this in addition to the current day's tip (which is good to continue monitoring, in case of vandalism).

    As always, at your service, The Transhumanist 22:10, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

    Teahouse[edit]

    Hi JoeHebda. I'm wondering if this might be better on the talk page. RivertorchFIREWATER 16:48, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

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    Anti-popes[edit]

    Hello Joe, I have some troubles with your recent additions on the articles on Anti-popes. You edited in the List of popes and the List of tombs of antipopes. To start with the first: this list does not contain those who are considered antipopes.; just the popes, making this list of questionable relevance to the article. On the second one: while I agree that the list of tombs is useful, I believe it is better to include it in the Antipope-navigation-box, which I did after I saw your edits. THus, I believe we'd better remove the links to the two links from the See-also-sections. What do you think? Best regards,Jeff5102 (talk) 08:07, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

    Greetings Jeff5102, Thanks for your comments.
    • List of popes further down in the list contains several of those antipopes so that one should stay in the SA section.
    • List of tombs of antipopes, yes that one could be removed from SA section as it is now a duplicate of Navbox link which you added. That was a good idea.
    Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 22:46, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

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    Change of name, help[edit]

    Hi, you can change the name of this article from Antonio Folgueras Sión to Luis Antonio Folgueras y Sión. Last is his correct name: Ficha personal. Thanks.--87.218.118.125 (talk) 07:27, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

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    Request[edit]

    Would you consider being one of my advisers related to my application to the MetaWiki for a grant proposal? I need library people like you to give me advice. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS)   13:42, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

    Greetings Barbara (WVS) - Thanks for asking, however I have zero grant-writing experience so I would not be able to help out with any advice. In 2014 I retired after 44 years in computer industry (IT/MIS/DP), with my last years as computer operations specialist (among many other job titles over the years). This experience has helped me allocate about 10 hours per week updating Wikipedia. Wondering if there is any Noticeboard where you might ask for help? Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 13:54, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
    Oh! I'm not asking for help writing the grant proposal. I just think that you are a nice wikipedian who knows about libraries. You could ask about things that I have not thought of. That's all. You could be my conscious. It is okay if you don't want to do this adviser thing. You could simply endorse the project if you would like. Part of the grant process is for me to seek support from others and so this is not really against the 'rules', plus I really do need a few advisers. I've left notice on many boards but have only asked two people to be my advisers. Best Regards, Barbara (WVS)   14:08, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
    Barbara (WVS) - There are two editors with a lot more Wikipedia experience that I sent a wikilink to this page & asked if they might help you out. Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 18:21, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
    Thank you so much! Barbara (WVS)   18:58, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Barbara (WVS) - here is a response that might help.

    Hello JoeHebda. I am sorry but I have no significant experience with grant writing and am not a librarian. Please take a look at "Category:Wikipedian librarians". Three very active librarian editors who may be able to offer a few words of advice are DGG, Diannaa and LadyofShalott. Good luck! Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:32, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
    If this does not pan out I would suggest asking at "the Teahouse" (WP:THQ) although they mainly answer questions from new editors. Or the "Reference desk" (WP:RD). Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 12:40, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

    Camille de Soyécourt[edit]

    I see you rated this article, which I just translated from the French, as "start class". The French wiki has it rated as "A". Maybe they have looser standards, but I imagine that if a newbie had started the article they would be a bit disconcerted to see the "start class" rating, which means it does not meet the needs of even a casual reader. See WP:ARTASS: it would be helpful if you would give advice on the article's talk page (not here) on the improvements needed to get it up to C class. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 17:22, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

    Single source?[edit]

    St. Jakobus, Rüdesheim relies not on a single source, but on the Literature: two books with details. Kindly check such things. The German Wikipedia from which I translated is organized differently, relying on books for most of the text, and inline citations only for single additional facts. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

    Greetings Gerda Arendt - While our English Wikipedia has different standards than the German WP, I do agree with your suggestion above. So I changed the "One source" to "Refimprove" and added a few CNs to the article. Thanks for your help. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 14:30, 21 November 2017 (UTC)
    Thank you. Next time just give me a week instead ;) - I do it in steps, first translate, then look for refs, - when I find enough, go for DYK. This one is undecided so far. It's one of the efforts to improve Rüdesheim for appearing on the Main page tomorrow. Please check if you can help. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:37, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

    WikiProject Catholicism Assessment Requests[edit]

    Can we add a section to Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism/Assessment for users to request assessments of quality of WikiProject Catholicism articles? This option is available in Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Assessment and Wikipedia:WikiProject Religious texts/Assessment. PluniaZ (talk) 02:18, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

    Greetings PluniaZ - interesting idea, worth discussing on the WP Cath talk page instead of here. Near top of this page, on right side I have a "to-do" list with these categories that might help with WP Catholicism article assessments.
    1. Category:Unassessed Catholicism articles
    2. Category:Unknown-importance Catholicism articles
    3. Category:Stub-Class Catholicism articles
    At one time the "Unassessed" had thousands of articles & it took about 18 months of work to get those cleared out. I do check the first two almost daily and try to do those assessments right away. The stub-class is really huge with over 10,000 articles. Just started those recently, still in the A's.
    If there is an article you need/want assessed right away, my suggestion would be to set "class=" and "importance=" to blank on the WP Catholicism line so the article will appear in the "Unassessed" category. Hope this helps. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 14:32, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

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    Cristo Rey schools articles[edit]

    I see you've tried to improve articles on Notre Dame Cristo Rey High School, and other Cristo Rey schools in the past. I've been dealing with User:John from Idegon and others who are active in Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools, with John being one of its coordinators. They acknowledge trying to implement a minimalist approach to what is allowed in school articles, so I am trying to establish that Cristo Rey schools should be admitted to the category Category:Poverty-related organizations but John removed it when I added it, and insisted that I get a consensus before adding the category. Admitting this category seems to me the best way to begin responding to his cleanup of the article according to the criteria that his schools project is seeking to impose, with reference to their own guidelines rather than to established Wikipedia policy. All of our dialogue has taken place on the page Talk:Notre Dame Cristo Rey High School. You can see there how it developed. I suggest that besides placing this school in some social justice category we should restore some of the aspects of Catholic schools which John and others have consistently removed, and reverted attempts to restore. These include: mention of a retreat and service program at the school; use of pre- and post- nominals on the names of clergy and religious (as with the removal of SNDdeN from the infobox, and note their more radical suggestion, confusing these with honorifics); mention of some of the recognition that the model has received (60 minutes, Gates Foundation, More than a Dream) on the article page, as illustrative of the impact this school is having; reference to the Boston Globe article that mentions this school (Notre Dame in Lawrence). Before I go to dispute arbitration I ask your opinion on which of these contentious issues I should raise for dispute. If it is moved to arbitration I would hope that you and others who might see things differently from John of Indegon's perspective would be there to lend support. I've never had to initiate arbitration before, and I'd like to move into this carefully. Some of the issues raised here would have wide impact on articles related to religious groups, as you can see from the intentions expressed in the long discussion at Talk:Notre Dame Cristo Rey High School. I took this to administrators earlier in this process, when I felt overwhelmed by a few editors, and this ended with one administrator suggesting I go the route of consensus building. But it may be hopeless unless we can establish what I say near the bottom of the Notre Dame talk page, that "a school article can fall into more than one category, like when those supporting the school are doing it for reasons of achieving greater equity or social justice. In Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide#Advice pages we read that 'most articles are within the scope of multiple WikiProjects, and seek(s) to avoid conflicting advice'. But there is no project to advance the publication of articles on "social justice". Like you I have no personal concern in these issues but I believe that what I'm advocating would give a better understanding of these schools, entirely within the policy guidelines of Wikipedia and enhancing the encyclopedia's usefulness. Grateful for all your work, and looking for your advice here, Jzsj (talk) 23:36, 21 January 2018 (UTC)

    Greetings Jzsj - After looking at Notre Dame Cristo Rey High School article, I did add WP Catholicism to the Talk page. As to your comments above, this is way beyond me as I've been focused on article assessments rather than schools articles, infobox, etc. Personally, whenever any of my edits are revered by another editor, I usually "walk away" and "let it go". I figure that karma will come back to them. And besides with thousands of other articles to improve, I don't bother wasting my time on confrontation & arguments... Sorry I'm not able to offer any specific advice for you. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 01:12, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
    Thanks for your response. I just feel that this is not about one school but about a project to gradually remove most mention of the spiritual dimension from all school articles. I don't know whether making schools a part of a Catholic project will make those in the bare-bones schools project more or less determined to denude Catholic schools of their identity. I have shared your interest in improving Catholic articles and am on the second time of going through the list of them, selecting those to which I can most easily relate. I usually leave the "refs" section at <yes/no> so that people in the project can go to that list to make a final check and raise the article to "B" status. Jzsj (talk) 13:34, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
    Oh Jzsj - I'm glad we are having this conversation as "thinking like an encyclopedia", here is an idea.
    For these Catholic schools articles, how about making a section title Catholic identity? (or Community outreach?) Within describe school activites such as Retreats, Life-Teen, Homeless outreach, Soup supper, Pro-life march, etc. Make sure to be factual so it does not "read like an advertisement". By grouping these activities withing a section structure, it will improve the article content as well as less likely to be reverted. I agree with you that Catholic identity is a fact & see no reason for purging from these articles. It just needs to be presented in a straight-up factual manner (with Refs). Note: this should apply to schools of other faiths as well, not just Catholic. Hope this helps. Cheers! JoeHebda • (talk) 14:36, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
    Thanks for your suggestion. I will try it, but am currently beginning the consensus building process at the bottom, simply asking for other opinions on the Category:Poverty-related organizations. When I see how that comes out I will have ready the section you suggest. Thanks again, Jzsj (talk) 14:43, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

    ──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── A fundamental concern of mine here is that we can spend the rest of our lives creating what we believe are good articles, but then project teams can implement their plan to have merely bare-bones articles on places like schools, with little more than the history and expansion of the infobox. I want to know that what I am doing is worth my time. (So far my category discussion has attracted only those previously drawn to the article.) Jzsj (talk) 17:47, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

    Jzsj - To find more diversity of opinions for consensus, would it be helpful to ask at Teahouse? They have helped me in the past with other questions. BTW this is the first I ever heard of a WP seaking to reduce article content vs. the usual efforts are to enhance articles with more content.
    Yesterday's the past, tomorrow's the future, but today is a gift. That's why it's called the present.
    --Bil Keane, Cartoonist (Family Circus)
    Another thought might be to contact Cullen328 "Jim", and ask for help. When I first started he helped me a lot & is definitely well-respected, and has a lot of Wikipedia wisdom. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 20:05, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
    Thanks for this info. You'll see on Cullen's talk page that our relationship began with his seeming to give unqualified support to John of Indegon. But things developed better as we dialogued, and I'll follow your advice and regard him as someone who is not against a proper expansion of articles.
    It's encouraging to hear that you've never seen Wikipedia Projects trying to reduce content. I'll proceed on that basis and hopefully get a better idea of their intent. Jzsj (talk) 20:25, 22 January 2018 (UTC)

    After going through the consultation process and hearing only the same few voices, I've gone to Talk:Notre Dame Cristo Rey High School#Request for comment on categorizing Cristo Rey schools. If you feel so inclined you might briefly weigh in on the issue. Thanks. Jzsj (talk) 15:29, 23 January 2018 (UTC)

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    It's not ready for general announcement yet (that's a long ways off), but I could sure use feedback from somebody on this thing. And so, your sense of curiosity came to mind...

    I was wondering if you would like to take it for a test drive. :)

    The discussion area for it is at the bottom of its talk page (which has become the script's workshop, kind of like totd). I hope to see you there. ;)

    Sincerely,    The Transhumanist 08:11, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

    Wave[edit]

    Greetings The Transhumanist - this afternoon I will look at this. I've been busy with improving Category:Stub-Class Catholicism articles of which there are over 10,000 & I'm still in the "A's". Most afternoons Category:Articles needing additional categories are a challenge for me.

    At first glance, it looks like many search options...only way to test will be to just jump in & try it out... Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 14:18, 21 February 2018 (UTC)

    Gratitude[edit]

    Thank you for consistently improving my recently created articles. - Conservatrix (talk) 14:32, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

    Signpost user topicon[edit]

    Hey JoeHebda,

    Stumbled upon this page here: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/Newsroom/Community, looks great! I was just wondering if you could also create a Signpost topicon in the manner of other {{topicon}}s? Ideally the fields would be something like "date", "contributed" and then the name of the article and a link. I think it would be useful, and if there was one it would also let me link it on my user page (which is where I keep a record of my activities). What do you think?--Tom (LT) (talk) 08:48, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

    Greetings Tom (LT) - Yes, I have made some improvements to the Signpost Community page a while back. On that page what specifically are you asking? Guess that I'm a bit confused. This is the first time I heard of Topicons & do not know how to create. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 19:05, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
    Went ahead and did this: {{Signpost user topicon}}. Turns out it wasn't so difficult! --Tom (LT) (talk) 22:03, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

    Thanks![edit]

    Thank you so much for going through my recent edits/pages and fixing them up. You're the hero Wikipedia needs ---roroke (talk) 15:32, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

    Greetings ---roroke - Over these winter months I can do more for WP articles. Glad that your contributions improve article content as each of us has a role to play. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 17:13, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

    Members list[edit]

    I notice that you were the last one to separate non-active members from the active members list for the Catholicism Project. Is this something that we should update again now? I would be willing to do it. Is there anyone who coordinates this project or can we make the decision ourselves? Jzsj (talk) 13:13, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

    Greetings Jzsj - Yes, doing that seperation was a rather tedious undertaking. You are welcome to tackle if you like to do so.
    1. When logged in, open a seperate tab window for "Contributions"
    2. In another tab window, with WP Catholicism/Members page open, click on the Edit for "Members" section (so the edit window shows both active & inactive).
    3. One-by-one, copy & paste member name into "Contributions" & see if they have any Wikipedia activity within the past year. (E.G. active after 01 April 2017)
    4. If yes active, then leave this User as active; if inactive CUT from Active and PASTE to bottom of Inactive list.
    5. When done, update the "as of" date in the Inactive section.
    Hope this is clear enough. If too confusing, maybe I could do a few to get you started. Let me know. Thanks for your offer to help. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 20:26, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
    Sorry, I should have mentioned that I had done precisely what you suggest here and found three of the first ten inactive and one scratched. Only one was very active, but when I get to this I will leave all those who were active in 2017 or since. Jzsj (talk) 22:50, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

    Please don't edit robotically. Ku Klux Klan[edit]

    MOS is a guideline, not a policy. It is not mandatory. Combining paragraphs together in a lede section because MOS says the lead should only have 4 paragraphs is editing like a robot, not like a human being with reasoning power. How paragraphs break should be deteremined by the writing, not by a silly rule. Please don;t do this again. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:08, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

    And for that matter, don;t add "This article has no lead" tags top stub articles. It just encourages editors to split up a one paragraph article into sd3eparate sections, all one sentence each. That's not helpful to the reader, and it looks like shit. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:11, 28 April 2018 (UTC)

    Overcite on Melchor Liñán y Cisneros[edit]

    Hi Joe, you put overcite on Melchor Liñán y Cisneros. Catholic Hierarchy and GCatholic are needed to show the non-Latin names of both the subject and the bishops that come before and after them. I just aggregate them at the top but what would be a good place to place them? I don't want to put them in the infobox. Should I put them in the Catholic Church titles area? If I do this, I would expect that someone would just remove them. Or should I put the cite for each diocese after their term in the heading? or perhaps where it is mentioned in the body? I think if we remove them we are doing a disservice to the reader. Thanks!Patapsco913 (talk) 17:58, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

    Greetings Patapsco913 - A lot of good questions, so I'm confused. I thought most citations would be in the article body where appropriate. Since I started on Wikipedia back in 2014 I have not done any article citations. Just something I'm not good at... Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 18:29, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

    Ichthus: May 2018[edit]

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    ICHTHUS

    May 2018

    Project News
    By Lionelt

    Last month's auspicious relaunch of our newsletter precipitated something of an uproar in the Wikipedia community. What started as a localized edit war over censorship spilled over onto the Administrator's Noticeboard finally ending up at Wikipedia's supreme judicial body ArbCom. Their ruling resulted in the admonishment of administrator Future Perfect at Sunrise for his involvement in the dispute. The story was reported by Wikipedia's venerable flagship newspaper The Signpost.

    The question of whether to delete all portals--including the 27 Christianity-related portals--was put to the Wikipedia community. Approximately 400 editors have participated in the protracted discussion. Going by !votes, Oppose deletion has a distinct majority. The original Christianity Portal was created on November 5, 2005 by Brisvegas and the following year he successfully nominated the portal for Featured Portal. The Transhumanist has revived WikiProject Portals with hopes of revitalizing Wikipedia's system of 1,515 portals.

    Stay up-to-date on the latest happenings at the Project Watch


    Achievements

    Four articles in the Project were promoted to GA: Edict of Torda nom. by Borsoka, Jim Bakker nom. by LovelyGirl7, Ralph Abernathy nom. by Coffee and Psalm 84 nom. by Gerda_Arendt. The Psalm ends with "O Lord of hosts, blessed is the man that trusteth in thee." Words to live by. Please support our members and send some WikiLove to the nominators!

    Featured article
    Nominated by Spangineer

    The reconstructed frame of Nate Saint's plane used in Operation Auca

    Operation Auca was an attempt by five Evangelical Christian missionaries from the United States to make contact with the Huaorani people of the rainforest of Ecuador. The Huaorani, also known as the Aucas, were an isolated tribe known for their violence, both against their own people and outsiders who entered their territory. With the intention of being the first Protestants to evangelize the Huaorani, the missionaries began making regular flights over Huaorani settlements in September 1955, dropping gifts. After several months of exchanging gifts, on January 2, 1956, the missionaries established a camp at "Palm Beach", a sandbar along the Curaray River, a few miles from Huaorani settlements. Their efforts culminated on January 8, 1956, when all five—Jim Elliot, Nate Saint, Ed McCully, Peter Fleming, and Roger Youderian—were attacked and speared by a group of Huaorani warriors. The news of their deaths was broadcast around the world, and Life magazine covered the event with a photo essay. The deaths of the men galvanized the missionary effort in the United States, sparking an outpouring of funding for evangelization efforts around the world. Their work is still frequently remembered in evangelical publications, and in 2006, was the subject of the film production End of the Spear. (more...)


    Did You Know
    Nominated by Dahn

    "... that, shortly after being sentenced to death for treason, Ioan C. Filitti became manager of the National Theatre Bucharest?"


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    German hymns[edit]

    I don't believe that the pronunciation of German hymns is "needed". We have many hymns, some famous (Stille Nacht, O du fröhliche), but I don't recall any with that feature, which I think is optional, and the longer the title, the more confusing. I know how to write refs, but when translating from German, I often don't find any. Usually I look during the week following creation, because for DYK they are really "needed". An empty section must look strange to a reader in the mean time. - So, I will now go find refs, and the FAC will have to wait again, sigh. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:58, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

    Same for Nun, Brüder, sind wir frohgemut. What would an IPA add to the understanding? 99,99% of readers are estimated to never have to speak it ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:51, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

    Keeping in touch[edit]

    Hey, I just wanted to update you on what I've been up to, and some of the things going on around the 'pedia that you might not be aware of...

    As you know, I'm quite involved with Wikipedia's navigation systems.

    One of the systems I had not been directly involved in for years, the portals, was nominated for deletion (yes, all portals, and the portal namespace) in an RfC that drew over 500 Wikipedians to comment.

    It wasn't going well for portals, due to the pile on effect. I noticed that they hadn't notified the pages nominated for deletion. So, I intervened. :)

    Many editors came to the portals' defense, and it turned out that many people are interested in portals, and we now have a thriving Portals WikiProject of 84 members.

    We're in the process of automating portals, and I thought you might be interested in what we've been up to, and what we are up to now.

    Sincerely,    — The Transhumanist   22:20, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

    P.S.: By the way, the current issue of the Signpost features an article with interviews about the RfC conflict and the Portals WikiProject.

    Thanks The Transhumanist for the update. I'm happy to see the Portal progress. Yes, the Signpost article is informative & gives a good perspective on community consensus in addition to portal project. Years back I did notice a number of portals missing from the list, great they are being added. The portal automation is a great feature compared to manual portal news updates.
    In addition to my usual updates for article assessments, I found 2 more categories that I like to work on, both with backlogs:
    While different, they both offer challenges with the variety of subjects & article quality.
    Thank you for all your efforts improving Wikipedia! Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 12:02, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

    Ichthus June 2018[edit]

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    ICHTHUS

    June 2018

    Project news
    By Lionelt

    Here are discussions relevant to the Project:

    The following articles need reviewers for GA-class: Type of Constans nom. by Gog the Mild, Tian Feng (magazine) nom. by Finnusertop. Your assistance is greatly appreciated.

    Stay up-to-date on the latest happenings at the Project Watch


    Did You Know
    Nominated by Gonzonoir

    ... that in 1636, Phineas Hodson, Chancellor of York Minster, lost his 38-year-old wife Jane during the birth of the couple's 24th child?

    Featured article
    Nominated by Cliftonian

    The Kidnapping of Edgardo Mortara, painting by Moritz Daniel Oppenheim, 1862. This depiction departs significantly from the historical record of how Mortara was taken—no clergy were present, for example.
    The Kidnapping of Edgardo Mortara

    The Mortara case was a controversy precipitated by the Papal States' seizure of Edgardo Mortara, a six-year-old Jewish child, from his family in Bologna, Italy, in 1858. The city's inquisitor, Father Pier Feletti, heard from a servant that she had administered emergency baptism to the boy when he fell sick as an infant, and the Supreme Sacred Congregation of the Roman and Universal Inquisition held that this made the child irrevocably a Catholic. Because the Papal States had forbidden the raising of Christians by members of other faiths, it was ordered that he be taken from his family and brought up by the Church. After visits from the child's father, international protests mounted, but Pope Pius IX would not be moved. The boy grew up as a Catholic with the Pope as a substitute father, trained for the priesthood in Rome until 1870, and was ordained in France three years later. In 1870 the Kingdom of Italy captured Rome during the unification of Italy, ending the pontifical state; opposition across Italy, Europe and the United States over Mortara's treatment may have contributed to its downfall. (Full article...)


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