User talk:Joe Decker

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation, search

Please leave new sections at the bottom of the page, not the top. Pressing "New section" will do the right thing. Thank you.

Request to bring back page for host Oliver Trevena[edit]

Hello, I am proposing we bring back the page for actor and TV host Oliver Trevena. Before when his page was up the show Young Hollywood was not a national show and was only a web series. Oliver had only been in a few short films. There are hundreds of videos on of Oliver hosting the show and interviewing celebrities. Episodes are starting to get added to his IMDB now each week. I would suggest the page look something like this;

Oliver Trevena is best known for for regularly hosting the celebrity chat show Young Hollywood. He was born and raised in East Sussex, England and is the youngest of four sons. Oliver trained at the South East Theatre Society & RADA. In his early acting days, he starred in William Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's Dream". Later, he starred in a variety of plays, including "The King and I", "Bugsy Malone" and even "Oliver". He has since starred in movies like, The Long Road (2008), Ready? OK!(2008) and TV appearances in The Good Guys, Leverage, The Forgotten and How to Rock. He was engaged to Laura Vandervoort for over a year. He has his own luxury luggage line with S.Mkellar and is a brand ambassador for Allsaints clothing. He is a spokesman for the non-profit organization Not For Sale and R.I.S.E. & Stand Inc.


I can find more links if needed. KatrinaMcCaffery (talk) 01:31, 21 July 2015 (UTC)KatrinaMcCaffery

Hi Katrina,
Our inclusion criteria for people, WP:BASIC, requires more than a few web links, it requires links which are reliable (e.g., from journalists and an organization with a reputation for fact-checking), independent (interviews, pages from the fellow himself or people he's working with don't count), and in-depth (individual photos at Getty, etc., don't count.) Based on my experience, I don't believe that the sources you've provided here meet that criteria. You are welcome to appeal my decision at WP:DRV.
You may also take a look at User:Joe Decker/IsThisNotable. I'm still working on refining it, but my hope is to provide a more step-by-step (if still not simple) approach to explaining what we need in terms of demonstrating notability. I hope that it will be helpful.
Best of luck, --j⚛e deckertalk 16:15, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Request on 19:16:50, 22 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Paulsoubry[edit]

Hi there, I am attempting to create a wiki page for Paul Soubry. The content that you are citing as copyrighted is actually content that I have written for Mr Soubry as his marketing manager at New Flyer. How can I get it approved? or do I need to create all new content for this page.

thanks, Jody Stadnyk, Marketing Manager New Flyer.

Paulsoubry (talk) 19:16, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining. Since the work was done for hire, you are not the owner of the copyright of the material, and in any case, we'd need a license to use it. When you go to edit here, did you notice, or do you now notice, the text which says " you irrevocably agree to release your contribution under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License and the GFDL with the understanding that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient for CC BY-SA 3.0 attribution"? That's an agreement than only the owner of the copyright can make. If the owner of the copyright of the text would like to do so, instructions for doing so are at WP:Donating copyrighted materials.
However, do note that such material is usually not suitable for inclusion in any case, as it's rarely written in an entirely arm's length manner. Generally, it's best to actually start by finding material which is written independently in journalistic sources about the subject, and to summarize (not copy) what they talk about, what they emphasize, and so on.
I realize we're a pretty opaque bureaucracy around here, and that that can be frustrating. I would recommend reading WP:Your first article, and WP:PSCOI. You may also find the WP:Teahouse a great place to ask questions as a new editor here. Best of luck. --j⚛e deckertalk 20:03, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

WP:PRD, John S. Hagmann[edit]

I'm nominating this for deletion. A google search turned up nothing that indicates notoriety. I fell onto this researching another John Hagmann currently in the news for all the wrong reasons! You were the last significant editor of this Hagmann page, and I also saw that you are active @ AfD. I've never put a link in a title before, but it seems efficient. Is it kosher? Regards Tapered (talk) 01:24, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

PS I don't think that his association with the very notable Stern, and one cite of it, is sufficient for WP:N. Tapered (talk) 01:27, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
No concerns, I added a reference during a very frenetic attempt to dig through and find more seriously problematic unsourced BLPs (and add at least *something* in the way of a source to those that aren't. I suspect this guy exists and that this isn't an attack piece, but he may very well not be notable. Thanks for the notification. --j⚛e deckertalk 07:17, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
@Tapered: If this gets deleted, I'd suggest a redirect to Robert_A._M._Stern#Career --j⚛e deckertalk 20:10, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
Sounds good. Tapered (talk) 00:48, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

The Night Runners[edit]

Hi I recently wanted to work on this page and saw it had been deleted for poor notability and references. I believe I have the proper references and am requesting if I may submit some changes to the page and see if it gets accepted. Thank you so very much for your time and will be here patiently waiting for your response at your earliest convenience. Vlolv (talk) 04:00, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, thanks ... really the key step is showing me the references. I'll give my opinion when I see them as to whether they're sufficient to override the previous community consensus, and if they are, I'll restore. If not, I'll show you how you can appeal my decision. Fair?
I do realize that newer editors at Wikipedia often find it difficult to make rhyme or reasons of our notability requirements. You may also take a look at User:Joe Decker/IsThisNotable. I'm still working on refining it, but my hope is to provide a more step-by-step (if still not simple) approach to explaining what we need in terms of demonstrating notability. As the topic is a band, you will also wish to be aware that routine announcements are generally not considered toward this standard. I look forward to your reply. --j⚛e deckertalk 06:05, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your reply, I have gathered my references and will list them here for you. Let me know where to go from there if there is a place to go from there. Again thank you so very much for your time.

Before they were The night runners they were illusion confusion and made it to top 16 on XFactor USA [1]

judges houses video 8.84 million viewers as illusion confusion on judges house 2 episode of xfactor usa 2011 [2]

A review about the judges houses performance [3]

Another article about X-Factor


Reviewed by popular Music Critic Any Kellman of [5]

Reviewed by popular website emertainmentmonthy [6]

Reviewed by [7]

Featured on metroweekly for their inclusion in the capital pride festival where they played alongside Carly Rae Jepson [8]

The Festival had 250,000 attendees [9]

They Have a Bio Page on MTV [10]

Deco Drive Interview [11]

Notable Review [12]

Notable Review [13]

PR news wire press release [14]

Wall Street Journal press release [15]

National anthem at heat game American Airlines Arena [16]

CNN Latino Interview [17]

  1. ^ "Judges House 2 Video". X Factor USA. Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  2. ^ "8.84 Million Viewers". U.S. Nielsen Ratings. Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  3. ^ "Illusion Confusion – Let’s Dance – The X Factor Judges Houses". Rickey.Org. Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  4. ^ . Miami New Times x-factors-five-biggest-surprises x-factors-five-biggest-surprises. Retrieved 29 July 2015.  Missing or empty |title= (help)
  5. ^ "Andy Kellman Review". Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  6. ^ "The Night Runners Debut With “Single”". Emertainmentmonthly. Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  7. ^ "Pop Music Group, The Night Runners, Debut Their Free Self-Titled Album!". Retrieved 29 July 2015.  Text "" ignored (help)
  8. ^ "2015 Capital Pride Festival: Capitol Stage Lineup". Doug Rule. Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  9. ^ "2015 Pride in the Nation's Capital a Huge Success". Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  10. ^ "MTV Artist Profile". Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  11. ^ "Deco Drive Interview". Deco Drive. Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  12. ^ "SINGLE (OFFICIAL MUSIC VIDEO)". A.L. Roberts. Retrieved 29 July 2015.  Text " THE NIGHT RUNNERS" ignored (help)
  13. ^ "beats-bass-singles-and-beaches". Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  14. ^ "Pop Music Group, The Night Runners, Debut Their Free Self-Titled Album at". Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  15. ^ "Press Release". Wall Street Journam. Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  16. ^ "National Anthem at American Airlines Arena". Retrieved 29 July 2015. 
  17. ^ "CNN Latino Interview". CNN Latino. Retrieved 29 July 2015. 

Your draft article, Draft:The Jubilee Project[edit]

Hello, Joe Decker. It has been over six months since you last edited your WP:AFC draft article submission, entitled "The Jubilee Project".

The page will shortly be deleted. If you plan on editing the page to address the issues raised when it was declined and resubmit it, simply edit the submission and remove the {{db-afc}} or {{db-g13}} code. Please note that Articles for Creation is not for indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace.

If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you want to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at WP:REFUND/G13. An administrator will in most cases undelete the submission.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 14:00, 29 July 2015 (UTC)