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Do you plan to go for FA? On my first look, this wouldn't require much work, given the current state of the article! (Maybe the most difficult part would be to get anyone attracted to review it during the FAC :) I'm currently planning to go hunt some reviewers during the third decade of the month, if nobody shows up.)--R8R (talk) 18:41, 15 September 2015 (UTC)

Sure, why not: it's not like there's much more to write about an element that is not even known. The structure is based on E117's, but without anything related to discovery (for obvious reasons). I plan to get E120 as well while we're at it. I doubt we'll see predictions on the superactinides that are quite as details, at least not until E119 and E120 are synthesized. They're like the modern E117: the next undiscovered spaces, that even more teams are looking at than for E117 IIRC. Double sharp (talk) 08:18, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
P.S. The first trickle of E121 and E122 predictions seem to be coming in: [1] (2015 paper, stopping at E122!) and [2] (despite the title saying only Ln and An, also includes the "eka-actinides" E121, eka-Ac, and E122, eka-Th). And there is this old article on E121. So, maybe we can soon restore the E121 and E122 articles, if the recent 2015 paper contains enough predictions. But I don't think even GA would be a possibility for them right now even if they still existed – not enough predictions yet! It'll be talking about almost nothing but the electron configuration, with the chemistry section being basically "eka-actinium. eka-thorium". Double sharp (talk) 14:27, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
I must say, you managed to do it anyway. The synthesis intro you give is great; the only thing that bugs me is, it doesn't have two important sub-headers. I just added them; feel free to find better titles, etc.
Just to make sure: you do have access to the 2015 article, right? (just in case) (But I haven't read it, either. Yet) Huh, I see you made it in just one day. Great! (It does need some polishing, but that would be exactly polishing.) Hope your work on E120 won't be much time-wasting, either.--R8R (talk) 19:38, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
I didn't see that! Thank you so much for that link! (Yeah, E115 and E119 were written in a day.) I doubt E120 will waste too much time either: I'd imagine another day? Double sharp (talk) 07:13, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I saw you finished the Ra GA comments. LOL about the tabloid: I don't think I wrote that (as you can see I haven't been looking at it since a year ago, when I got it from C to B-ish). That should be my next project, after we see what happens with E119 (and maybe E120) GANs. (One step closer to making every radioactive element a GA!) Double sharp (talk) 14:46, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm inclined to believe that, I don't remember you do such writing. :) Well, I hope to see you make it to radium in a not so distant future.--R8R (talk) 19:38, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! Double sharp (talk) 15:09, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

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Or perhaps we could ...[edit]

re: Talk:List of monarchs in Britain by length of reign § Llywelyn of Gwynedd, maybe we should write 1995-01(12)? YBG (talk) 03:17, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

@YBG: Um, that notation isn't quite transparent to me. What is it trying to say? I think it needs an explanatory note. Double sharp (talk) 03:48, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Oops, I meant to say 1195-01(12). By analogy to citing the mass of H as 1.00794(7), it is meant to mean +/- 12 months. But perhaps 1195-06(6) would be better. It was all tongue-in-cheek. YBG (talk) 14:17, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
I think the original is better, as it could have been 1194 as well. But this is kinda confusing with the mixed bases. Double sharp (talk) 14:20, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Could you help me find an old discussion?[edit]

Uus FAC is kinda on, and Nergaal writes, "The isotopes numbers in the infobox are lacking a ref." I am confident this has been discussed before; and it was decided to assume the refs are in the main Isotopes of... article. But I can't find it. Do you remember it? Could you help me find it?--R8R (talk) 16:47, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Something like that is on Talk:Polonium/GA1. Double sharp (talk) 01:15, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
It also mentions the discussions there were prior to that moment :) These are what I wanted to find.
By the way, don't you happen to remember whether I posted the link to the news on how they don't disclose the element's name? I can't find neither via my user contributions nor via Google (the latter is especially sad). If only there was a search through contributions!
Also, before Sergei Dmitriev spoke aloud how Dubna wanted to name 115 "moscovium" (on Aug 10), there was a suggestion it could be called "langevinium," after Paul Langevin (one link, just in case -- here).--R8R (talk) 06:31, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
The symbol Ln looks like a recipe for disaster, if you ask me! (^_-)-☆ I'll add it to the E115 article.
I think I asked you on your talk page; however, I don't remember there having been a link. Double sharp (talk) 06:37, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Well, chances are, the symbol would be "Lg" :) I suggest you specifically say the Lg proposal came before the "moscovium" one (for element 115). "But for some reasons, the creator of the theory of diamagnetism and paramagnetism was decided to move aside," as I found another news article comment the "new" "moscovium" proposal  :)
I can't find it there, either :( I could've decided to not include the link, since the text was probably in Russian, but at least, I want to find where it could be.--R8R (talk) 06:53, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Well, they say "ланжевений (Ln) в честь известного французского физика-теоретика прошлого столетия Ланжевена": I assumed that Ln was meant to be a symbol. ;-) Double sharp (talk) 06:55, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Wait, do you have the link to the Aug 10 Dmitriev "moscovium" thing? Double sharp (talk) 06:58, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Hmmm. Yeah, then that would be a disaster :) (given the symbol actually came from Dubna and not the website)
Not a primary source link, I haven't looked for it yet. (Should I?) But many news agencies, even including a few I know, published short articles on the "moscovium" name on Aug 10/11/12, quoting how Dmitriev said it, or quoting none at all. Do you need such a link?--R8R (talk) 07:02, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Yes, please! I'd like to have such links to add to the E115 article now.
Been re-looking at alkali metal since yesterday. Hmm maybe we are not too far off again. (Hopefully FA doesn't get further like it did the last time.) Double sharp (talk) 07:05, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Okay, here is an example of the Aug 10 thing (it could even stand as a source for the date). Here's a quote mentioned by almost every source reporting the fact: "We express gratitude to the government of the Moscow Oblast for the provided financial support. In acknowledgment [of that], we would like to name one of the already discovered elements Moscovium after the Moscow region — the land the element has been discovered on. It would be symbolic if the 115th element of the Mendeleev's table, which decays into dubnium, would be named Moscovium." I think the link is okay to support the fact. (If you need anything else, let me know.)
I hope so; want me to give it a look sometime later?--R8R (talk) 07:19, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
Yay! Thank you for the E115 ref! (Goes to add it.)
Sure, would love to hear your alkali metal comments. (This is already my third or fourth push, isn't it?) Double sharp (talk) 07:21, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Near future[edit]

Hi! I got a few points:

  • first of all, what are your wiki plans fir the nearest future? You've got your eye on Uue, Ra, and alkali metal, and there's also the Pb article we wanted to do a collab on. If I find out about your plans, I could see how I could distribute my wiki time. (In particular, I want to see when I should start to read alkali metal and when I should start to implement the Pb ideas. I've got little spare time, so this is important.
  • second, when you decide it's the highest time for me to come and give alkali metal a read, ping me. There might be a chance I would be caught with my current businesses... I think I could manage to do that sometime if I knew when, especially if in advance, without this interferring with my RL affairs. But as I can see, you've got some work on articles other than Ra, which I've reviewed, now... So when the time for me to get in comes, ping me, best in advance.
  • also, I want to inform you (basically to motivate myself) that I want to go hunt reviewers anytime soon, hopefully during this weekend... It's just I have little time, this is the main problem... Is there a chance you know anyone who could come?--R8R (talk) 05:35, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
    • Near future: Uue and Ubn (the undiscovered elements) are first, as they're easy pickings. Maybe alkali metal after that, although I feel a little guilty about leaving Ra dangling. I have your comments (thankfully) so I can address them later if I have other things. Also in that category are things like Np and Bk FAs (though really Th would be awesome). Pb any time. Ubn will be a one-day affair, like Uue.
    • I'm tempted to say to hold off on alkali metal until I really have the fixing going, as now it's not too different from last year yet.
    • Reviewers for Uus? I dunno. Jasper Deng reviewed some of my SHE GANs; I asked him for Uue but he hasn't responded. Basically I'm not sure who would care about it, though maybe other reviewers of old SHE GANs would be.
    • I also really really want to finish the SHEs and bring that to GT (I need the main article, and then Db, Sg, and Bh), like I did for the actinides. That's been a thing for just a year less than the alkali metals.
    • What to do after those two old goals are done? (It'll be at least 2016, and that's an optimistic estimate.) Maybe I will remember my old plan to do Sr, stealing the layout of Ba. If I want something huge and important after that (like the old alkali-metal spamming), maybe the halogens? Double sharp (talk) 06:10, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
      • Though TBH I think I'd go to the other old goal instead, to FA Li and Be. Double sharp (talk) 10:55, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
        • so is it like you'd go for Li and Be instead of Pb? This is important for me, as I am busy IRL but would gladly take part in a collab. Taking an article on my own would be difficult now due to my real-life activities. A second opinion isn't as available, which, apart from helping build the article, motivates to do the work. And you don't get to do less work. One example is my work on Alexei Navalny -- the idea to work on it came out of nowhere, the topic seemed intriguing, (I did fulfill my original goal to educate myself about our national opposition,) and then that's it. The article's been improved much (nowhere near even GA, there are like empty sections, but the improvement is still huge. But there wasn't anyone to work with. I'm not complaining (by no means I am), but I would greatly appreciate the fact there is someone who's interested, too. In a life where I have so little spare time, it would greatly help me to go on. (If RL issues were too important, so important I couldn't spend time for Wiki, I would ditch it for a while anyway.)
          • No it's not, it's more like I'd go to Li and Be first before halogens, but I will do Pb before any of these. Maybe even concurrently with alkali metal. Double sharp (talk) 13:26, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
        • You, in particular, seem to be a person worth doing a collab with -- of all WP:ELEM editors, ST11 is going for astronomy now, DePiep doesn't do content work, and Sandbh does his work so fundamentally I'm afraid I can't keep up. not to mention you're a good person to work with :) Speaking of Pb, I don't really want to keep it where it is now. If it wasn't for the comments that are already there, then yeah, but now it would feel wrong. Basically, I think lead could be improved per our comments within couple of weeks/a month at worst, and then we would be open for a PR. I do want to motivate you to go for Pb FA, as I think that it is not too difficult (like we got a plan), and after the PR starts, there is a high probability we'll be open for a second task, which could be either Li or Be.
          • Sure, don't worry: we'll do Pb together. Thank you for thinking so highly of me, though I'm not sure I deserve it! o_O
          • Not sure which of Li and Be to do first. I like both very much. But if I had to pick one, it would be Be. It's a really interesting element. What a pity that it is extremely toxic. Double sharp (talk) 13:34, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
        • when you do decide to finally go for the last SHE articles, call me. I do want to go for FA with dubnium, maybe you even remember that. If you want to simply GA the other two, okay then, but let's go for a star with Db. (I assume you would take part?)
          • Definitely: thanks for reminding me! Sg and Bh will probably just be GAs.
          • (Although is there really a difference between GA and FA for these articles? I mean, looking at E115, I think I've got practically everything that's been written on it, which is still not much. If so, then they all could become FAs with minimal work. If this isn't true, the ones to FA specifically other than Db are still Hs, Cn, and Fl.) Double sharp (talk) 13:34, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
        • Halogens seem to be intriguing, even for a possible FT, but that's a future so distant :) actually, I don't set plans about as far away myself. I still have aluminium on my mind, and that's it.--R8R (talk) 12:08, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
          • Very distant, indeed. But given that I seem to take forever to get any of my goals achieved (otherwise, why is alkali metal not an FA yet? (;一_一)), I think it's not bad to plan that far ahead! (^_^) My favourite among them is iodine, mostly because it isn't trying to kill you as much as the others in elemental form. Double sharp (talk) 13:34, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Natural isotopes of actinides[edit]

If you list 244Pu, 240Np, 240Pu, and 236U as existing, than 240U exists, too.

If 237Np exists in nature, than the Np series should exist, too, though in extremely negligible amounts. The data from 1952 seem to have identified 237Np, 233U, 229Th, and 225Ac.

226Th and 232U may be double beta decay products of 226Ra and 232Th, but the article Double beta decay does not state anything about them.

237U is sometimes mentioned as an intermediate in the chain of 237Np formation, e.g. [3] (in Russian).Burzuchius (talk) 14:28, 27 September 2015 (UTC)

@Burzuchius: Right, I forgot about 240U. Thanks for that data; I'll add back the Np series isotopes, then. I'll still leave out 226Th and 232U, as the double beta decay of their hypothetical parents is apparently not known yet. Double sharp (talk) 14:55, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
@Burzuchius: The other discrepancies with the old list were its inclusion of 235Th, 235Pa, 236Pa, 238Np, and 242Pu: do you have any information about the possible natural occurrence of these isotopes? Double sharp (talk) 15:05, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
@Burzuchius: Huh: the "isotopes of X" articles list double beta decay from 226Ra, 232Th, (236Pu), and 244Pu! This would add back 226Th, 232U, and 244Cm (making curium natural). But the only source I found for 244Pu double beta decay was a negative detection... Double sharp (talk) 02:29, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

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Thank you[edit]

For your edit to my sandbox re transition metals. It occurred to me this morning that some of the platinum metals aren't known for their structural strength so I'll have to fix that. It is surprisingly hard to summarize what the transition metals are without immediately talking about d orbitals. Sandbh (talk) 02:37, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

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Please see my comment on your edit on the discussion page, thanks! Nicole Sharp (talk) 15:49, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Replied. Double sharp (talk) 16:10, 8 October 2015 (UTC)