User talk:John

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A Note on threading:

Interpersonal communication does not work when messages are left on individual users' talk pages rather than threaded, especially when a third party wishes to read or reply.

Being a "bear of very little brain", I get easily confused when trying to follow conversations that bounce back and forth, so I've decided to try the convention that many others seem to use, aggregation of messages on either your talk page or my talk page. If the conversation is about an article I will try to aggregate on the article's talk page.

  • If the conversation is on your talk page or an article talk page, I will watch it.
  • If the conversation is on my talk page or an article talk page and I think that you may not be watching it, I will link to it in a note on your talk page, or in the edit summary of an empty edit. But if you start a thread here, please watch it.

I may mess up, don't worry, I'll find it eventually. Ping me if you really need to.

please note this is a personal preference rather than a matter of site policy

(From User:John/Pooh policy)

Calvin Cheng[edit]

Anonymous vandalism is continuing. Aricialam (talk) 08:43, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 28 October 2015[edit]

The Signpost: 04 November 2015[edit]


I know you do might disagree with my assertions that opinions cited and ascribed as such can be used even from the "Daily Mail" and that there is no such thing as a "reliable source" for celebrity gossip - but we tend to agree far more often than not overall. Thank you for noting my strong positions on Twain for sure! Collect (talk) 19:55, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Us old timers tend to gravitate towards common positions. I certainly agree with you strongly over Twain. --John (talk) 20:09, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Virginia Tech Project Invite[edit]

As a current or past contributor to a related article, I thought I'd let you know about WikiProject Virginia Tech, a collaborative effort to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Virginia Tech. If you would like to participate, you can visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks and related articles. Thanks!

Go Hokies (talk) 22:42, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 11 November 2015[edit]

Nomination of International reactions to the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 shootdown for deletion[edit]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article International reactions to the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 shootdown is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/International reactions to the Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 shootdown until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Obi-Wan Kenobi (talk) may the force be with you 21:28, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Quotation removal[edit]

Hi, please explain the rationale behind this diff. Perhaps there's a relevant section in the quotations policy that I overlooked, but it seems to me that these quotes are very relevant to the article and should be included for their informative value. Thanks, --Pine 04:49, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Huh, really? To me this is a very basic thing. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of quotes, but a summary of the best sources. If the article was left full of random quotes it would not be an article but a quote farm. An article like this would not be our work but someone else's, which would run us into problems with our policy to be a free resource. Didn't you have to learn this basic aspect of writing in secondary school? --John (talk) 07:04, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
(Article talk page best?) It conveys nuance. If used as a quote, there is less responsibility for those nuances. The nuances could be stated in the Wikipedia article, but doing so might not be 'encyclopedic'. 2601:600:8500:5B1:D41B:E837:1128:2F01 (talk) 19:40, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Paris attacks[edit]

Hello. With respect, it isn't "trivia" to state one of the victims collaborated with Justin Bieber. That is why I reverted your edit. Thanks. Juneau Mike (talk) 08:53, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Take it to article talk? The real question is, was this covered in any decent sources? --John (talk) 08:54, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Reverted edit[edit]

You might want to give a reason for your actions in the discussion here Talk:November_2015_Paris_attacks#Ahmad_Almuhammad. Jan Winnicki * 09:17, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

Or I might not. --John (talk) 09:32, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


I'm assuming nn means Not Notable (WP:NOTABLE)Eteethan(talk) 21:52, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
Exactly. --John (talk) 22:16, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 November 2015[edit]


St Cecilia's Day
A Boy was Born - Benjamin Britten - page header.jpg
A Boy was Born

Music in your ears and heart! (in a box) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:08, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

Vielen Dank, Gerda. Das war sehr hubsch von Dir. --John (talk) 23:03, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
I made a project member box, did you see? - I miss the image in the article which I started 2 years ago (on the boy's centenary), miss also Britten's title. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:14, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

ArbCom elections are now open![edit]

You appear to be eligible to vote in the current Arbitration Committee election. The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to enact binding solutions for disputes between editors, primarily related to serious behavioural issues that the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the ability to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. For the Election committee, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:37, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Keen to know what you think (as Administrator)[edit]

Hello John, it's been a while. I'm trying to be as brief as well as concise, as possible. Generally in our articles about TV-series a list called "overseas" or "also aired in", is added towards the end of the article. But now has the user AlexTheWhovian imposed new language related rules. Or perhaps is it I and a few others who haven't understood ? In any case, I wasn't allowed to start a list of countries/nations in the Black Sails (TV series) and adding Denmark there, as DR3 now aires the second series. Discussion can be found at AlexTheWhovian 's talk side. (But I simply cannot get it in blue. Please go from Black Sails (TV series) -> history -> and there is a blue link to him.). The key question as I see it, is whether it's of encyclopedical value to see how well spread a certain TV-series is, or isn't it ? Should I fight AlexTheWhovian ideas, do you think ? (Though I'm so tired of the small fuss, and hence my reason to ask you for advice) Thanks. Boeing720 (talk) 02:31, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Re this, I agree with User:AlexTheWhovian. --John (talk) 06:56, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Unfortunately, no matter how many times I tell Boeing720, WP:TVINTL is not a new policy, and countries where English is not the main language do not get included. They then go on to say how other articles list these countries, but WP:OTHERSTUFF then applies. It's a infinite cycle with Boeing720. And yes, concerning the edit that you linked, John, being filmed in South Africa does not make it a South African series, no matter of how it is assisted with production. (And thanks for the ping; I wasn't aware that Boeing720 was talking about me behind my back without my knowledge.) Alex|The|Whovian 07:11, 24 November 2015 (UTC)