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Sysop russian wikipedia[edit]

Ув JohnOwens, на странице Арбитражного комитета решается вопрос о снятии статуса sysop в связи с неактивностью 07:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)


Hello there John, welcome to the 'pedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. If you ever need editing help visit Wikipedia:How does one edit a page and experiment at Wikipedia:Sandbox. If you need pointers on how we title pages visit Wikipedia:Naming conventions or how to format them visit our manual of style. If you have any other questions about the project then check out Wikipedia:Help or add a question to the Village pump. Cheers! --maveric149

Hi, John, thanks for catching the alternate meaning of Or.

BTW, you may want to look at Wikipedia:Disambiguation to see how we format pages like this that deal with multiple unrelated meanings of a term, and how we edit links to make reading the encyclopædia smoother.

But don't worry about doing these things for Or itself now; I took care of it. — Toby 06:56 Oct 18, 2002 (UTC)


Ramir, also ru:????????:Ramir (damn, the Russian encoding doesn't seem to be working here):

Hello John. I am a new ru.wikipedia's sysop, and a very good one. This is just to let you know that we are trying to revive our wikipedia, and there are new changes going on. However, we still are a very small community.

Error in insolation of order of magnitude energy[edit]

John, if I'm reading the edit history correctly, you're the one who added the solar energy inputs to the various energy pages, e.g. 1_E4_J, 1_E17_J, etc. I believe there's an error in that the various solar numbers are not internally consistant, but I don't have another reference to tell me which ones are the correct numbers, and which ones aren't.

It's basically an order of magnitude error. All of the mantissa's appear to be correct. For example, 1_E4_J tells us 1.36 x 104J per square meter per second, and if you multiply that by the sillouhette area of Earth (approx 1.27 x 1014 m2) you get 1.72 x 1018J/s for the whole Earth. The problem is that 1_E17_J lists this value as 1.74 x 1017 J/s. Then if you start multiply up by time factors, you run into a problem at solar energy per hour 1_E21_J. Finally, if you do the spherical math for the total energy of the sun 1_E26_J spread out across a sphere of our orbital radius, you get 1.39 x 103, about one-tenth the value listed on 1_E4_J.

Personally, I suspect that the total solar energy and the total Earth per second are the correct values and that the J/s/m2 and total Earth per hour are the wrong values. However, I base this just on an old recollection that solar power at Earth is about a kW/m2. Also, I'm new to Wikipedia, so I was reluctant to just go change things on my own. Hence I'm trying to track down the original contributor.

Image:Meteorite Lapham.jpg[edit]

Hi there! Thanks for adding the image Image:Meteorite Lapham.jpg. It currently doesn't have an image copyright tag, and I was hoping that you would add one as untagged images may be deleted eventually. (You can use {{gfdl}} to license it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) Thanks! --Diberri | Talk 22:21, Sep 7, 2004 (UTC)

Karte Ukraine[edit]

Hallo John, ich habe dir auf deiner russ. Diskussionsseite eine Nachricht hinterlassen. --Steschke 17:40, 2004 Sep 26 (UTC)

Article Licensing[edit]

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:


Option 2
I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk) 18:25, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

RFC pages on VfD[edit]

Should RFC pages be placed on VfD to be deleted? I'm considering removing Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Slrubenstein, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jwrosenzweig and Wikipedia:Requests for comment/John Kenney from WP:VFD. Each of them was listed by CheeseDreams. Your comments on whether I should do this would be appreciated. - Ta bu shi da yu 03:51, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Rienzo is still editing under further sockpuppets User:, User:MahBoys, and User:Sandor, and User:

This is in violation of a 3 month ban from the arbitration comittee - Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Rienzo

I would appreciate an immediate block of these accounts. CheeseDreams 14:36, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Opuntia photo[edit]

Hi John,

Just curiosity — where was that photo taken? It made me miss Tucson.

Thanks, Pekinensis 15:37, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)

My parents' backyard, in Vail if that means anything to you. I was just down visiting them for the first time for a week recently, and got a digital camera for a birthday present, so I went a little crazy with taking pictures meant largely for Wikipedia. ;) Once I get done identifying everything & cropping & resizing, there'll probably be a couple dozen more Opuntiæ photos, and another couple dozen of other cacti & desert plants. You can see a pretty complete list at my trip photo list. - John Owens (talk) 22:51, 2005 Feb 20 (UTC)

Vail! Heh. Very cool. Nice photos, by the way.

Thanks, Pekinensis 03:04, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)


In a remarkable bit of convergence, the sisal and Florida Perrines both relate to the same person, a Henry Perrine who described the species and attempted to grow it in the area of present-day Perrine in Florida. Gathering info now, should have an article about him soon. Stan 14:48, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)

My English[edit]

Hello JohnOwens! Thank you for the correction by he article Bevertalsperre. My english ist not very well, but i want to describe the images in the english language, too. So, all the english speaking users can read and edit this articles. And i can leard something more! Can you check the image, which was included in the article, too? Best greetings from Germany (Cologne)! -- 11:02, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Our English[edit]

Thank you also for your work on Finland's Continuation War. --Johan Magnus 09:23, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Inappropriate redirect[edit]

There was no need to move Portland Place. There is nothing to disambiguate at this point and there may never be. Only half a dozen others of the more than a hundred articles in category:streets of London are disambiguated, and unlike this one they all need it. I am going to revert and do the redirect in the opposite direction. Wincoote 05:55, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

The Resistance Manifesto[edit]

Not a problem.  :) RickK 08:39, Mar 16, 2005 (UTC)


Admitedly(sp?), I would also have to move a few blocks... However, I grew up in Cedarburg and my Ma still lives in Grafton. At heart and often locale, I'm an East-sider. I just thought I'd use my resources and "relocate" for a while, rather than preaching to the choir. Kevin Baastalk 00:36, 2005 Mar 19 (UTC)

Oliver North[edit]

Hello! Could you take a look at the Oliver North article, please? A new account (but clearly old user), Ger6 (talk · contributions), is trying to insert PoV references to North's being a national hero, etc., and has reverted my edits, including many unrelated to his obsession. He's already broken the 3RR, and clearly doesn't care. there's not much more that I can do now. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 18:44, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Dear John: Thanks for putting the Italics instead of the quotes on the article that I strted about Victor Chapman. My computer can't see italics, but it can see quotes. I jst wonder how many other computers out there are like mine.

It still is a very appreciated gesture of yours and I want to thank you for taking the time to read an article I began. Everytime someone reads something I began it makes me feel that Im not wasting my time here, that my work is helpful to others.

Thanks and God bless you!

Sincerely yours, --"Antonio Sweet Prince(ss)Martin-- 04:45 (MST) 3 Apr, 2005

Hi from the BABB[edit]

Heyo, fancy finding you here. But then now that I think back on it I remember you talking about Wikipedia back in the days of the BABB IRC channel, if I recall correctly. ;-) Take care. Andromeda321 20:55, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)

ru:Рушева, Надя[edit]

Hi John, I understand you are an admin on ru (?). If so, can you process this possible copyright violation? It's listed at Wikipedia:Copyright_problems#April_22, the lister didn't know where to put it on ru. Thanks--Duk 17:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)

PS, I also lef a note at User:Maximaximax

Apostolic Council and Council of Jerusalem[edit]

These pages sure could use some help, perhaps you're interested?

thank you everybody[edit]

I would like to express my thanks to everybody helping in the nomination of Antarctic krill. I think 3 1/2 supports and a long long discussion are an unexpected and great outcome for a critter so remote and unknown - you should see how little and poor Antarctic krill is represented in Encarta and Britannica - this is the best reviewed and resourced general article of krill we know of - it is impossible to fullfill all wishes at the same time - this is what we did with our all product peer review stamp to qualify this stage of the article for academic exercises, especially for our dreams of a Virtual university within Wikiversity - good luck to you all Uwe Kils 21:48, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)

Neutral Wikipedia?[edit]

Dear Wikipedia administrator

I am writting you about the issue of Macedonia, Republic of Macedonia, Macedonian Slavs (like Wikipedia calls the Macedonians) and the problem between Macedonia and Greece about the term Macedonia. I am aware that this issue is largely discussed here, at Wikipedia, and Wikipedia claims that it is trying to take a neutral side. But, that is not the case. Wikipedia is everything except neutral in this question. In the following lines I will explain you why.

From the text in Wikipedia most of the people will conclude that Macedonian nation appeared during the World War 2 and Tito was the one who 'invented' us. The family of my wife (she is Mexican) read this and asked me is it truth. That was actually the first time I read what Wikipedia says about my nation, which was a direct reason for my reaction. My grandfather is born in 1911th. Yesterday I had a talk with him. He took a part in the strugle for independence since 1925th and he took a part in the 2nd world war. He is alive and personal prove that Wikipedia is full of bullshit and lies about our origin. He spent half of his life proving and fighting for that. He was shot 3 times, all 3 from the Bulgarians who wanted to ocupy Macedonia in the Balkan wars and in the WW1 and WW2. Just a 1 min with him will show you how many lies you suport in Wikipedia.

I tried to edit some of the text few days ago, but everithing I wrote was deleted. And all I wrote were facts. Fact 1. Macedonians (or Macedonian Slavs, like ONLY Wikipedia, Greece and Cyprus calls us) is the only nation of many living in the area concentrated inside the borders of the geographical region of Macedonia. This is a pure fact, something that you can even find on the CIA web page. Can you give any fact to deny my fact? If you can not, why you erased it from Wikipedia? Fact 2. Republic of Macedonia has diplomatic relations with about 150 countries in the world. Wikipedia says that "at least 20" countries recognize Macedonia under the name Macedonia. Guess what? That number is more than 100. And this is an officially confirmed by our ministery for foreighn affairs. Fact 3. Wikipedia says that my country Contraversialy calls itself Republic of Macedonia. This is a pure example of taking a side in the problem. Why you don't say that Greece contraversialy deny us the use of the name Macedonia? If you intended to be neutral, just write that we have the naming problem with Greece, but do not call my name "contraversial"!!! Fact 4. While explaining about the antient Macedonia, its kings etc. you highly support the claim for their Greek origin. I can give you 1000s of facts that that is not truth and I beleive that some Greek guy can give you 1000s facts that those claims are truth. That was 2400 years ago and there is no chanse for us to know the real situation. We can only guess. But, when you give the Greek suported version, why you ignore the version suported by the newaged Macedonians? In this moment I can give you 10 names of internationally respected scientist supporting our theory. If you are neutral, why you ignore it? Fact 5. Wikipedia says that the Turkish Empire were calling us Bulgarians. Strange, because the Turks were recognizing the uniqueness of our nation since the moment they occupied the teritory of Macedonia. Actually, the Turkish history archives are the biggest prove of our existance, history and culture. Did anyone of you ever read anything from those archives? Even on the birth certificate of Khemal Ataturk says that he is born in Bitola, Macedonia. And his autobiography is full of memories of his childhood spend with the Macedonians. Fact 6. Wikipedia ignores the egsodus of the Macedonian people from Greece and says they were running because they were supporters of the comunists. 1/3 of the Macedonians have origin from this part of Macedonia. They were runned away from there by force and you can find many historical proves for that. Again, big part of my family has origin from there. As a matter of fact, my grand-grand father was married to a Greek woman, my grand-grand mother. But, no matter of that, his house was burned and he was forced to run away for his life and the life of his family. How dare you deny this? Do you know that even today my grand father is not allowed to visit Greece, because he was a kid when his family runned away from there? Fact 7. There are about 500 000 Macedonians that live outside Macedonia, mostly in Canada, Australia, USA, Sweden etc. At least 1/3 moved there before 1930s. If we were a product of Tito, how can you explain that even they feel of Macedonian nationality? I have a family in USA which moved there in 1927th. Their ancestors (my cousins) do not even know how to talk Macedonian well. But, they still feel Macedonian. One of them is even one of the financiers of the party of the Macedonians in Bulgaria, trying to help their strugle to keep their national identity. I repeat, first time he visited Macedonia was in 1995th, far after Tito. And his family moved in USA in 1927th, far before Tito. Fact 8. Wikipedia claims that the book of Macedonian songs by Dimitar Miladinov is actually Bulgarian. Have you maybe seen a original copy of the book, printed in Croatia? IT says clearly "Macedonian". Not to mention that the same author wrote one of the most important books in the Macedonian history "For the Macedonian issues", again printed in Croatia, where it clearly talks about the Macedonian nation and non-Bulgarian origin.

All this was simply erased from the database. I didn't erase anything when editing these pages, I support the other side and I do not want to hide their facts. But why Wikipedia wants to hide our facts, which show that we are not a product of Tito's ambitions for the Aegean Sea. In Tito's time, the Yugoslav army was far superior in the region. If he wanted the Aegean Sea, he would get it very easily.

Many things in Wikipedia are very offensive for the nowdays Macedonians. Wikipedia simply ignores us, gives us a new name and supports the theories of denial of our existance, culture and history.

I will try to give you an example that includes with Mexico. I beleive that you know that the Maya civilisation was invaded by the Spanish kingdom. Spanish were ruling Mexico for centuries and millions of Spanish people moved at Mexican teritory. Later, after the liberation war, Mexicans formed its own country. Fact 1. Mayas were living in Mexico (same as Antique Macedonians). Fact 2. Spanish invaded them and great number of Spanish people moved to Mexico (The Slavs moved on the theritory of Macedonia and there was no reported fights or movements of people away from the teritory where the Slavs settled). Fact 3. Nowdays, everyone of the Mexican is aware that they are partly Spanish, but they still have Mayan origin (Wikipedia says that the people living in Republic of Macedonia are Slavs. When there was no reported resetling of the Antique Macedonians, how is possible they not to mix with the Slavs? It is a fact that the nowdays Macedonians are not same as the Antique Macedonians, but they certanly have a significant part of their genes. Same as I beleive that Greece has a part of their Genes, but they are definitly not their direct ancestors). Fact 4. Mexican speak Spanish. Reason: The Spanish culture was superior in that time. (The Antique Macedonians accepted the Helenic culture, including a variation of the Greek language. Reason: the Helenic culture was superior in that time. Everyone who knows at least little history will know that Hellenic and Greek are not synonims. Greek is nation, Hellenic is religion/culture. USA and England both speak English, both are mostly cristians, but they are SEPARATE nations. Aren't they? Same happens to Germany and Austria, or Serbia and Croatia, or Canada and France, or Brazil and Portugal, or the rest of Latin America and Spain)

And here is a comment about the claims of the Bulgarians, that the Macedonians are actually Bulgarians. If that is truth, I am going to kill myself. Bulgarians through the history made the worst for my nation. During the strugle of the Macedonian people for independence from the Turkish empire, at the end of the 19th and begginbing of the 20th century, the Bulgarians were the ones who killed the most of our revolutionaries, including 4 members of my close family which were members of the Macedonian revolutionary organization (VMRO). Whis is not something that I was told by Tito. My grandfather (the same grandfather from above) was in fact a member of the same organization. He personaly knew many of the revolutioners that Bulgarians claim are theirs, including 2 of the leaders: Goce Delcev and Gorce Petrov. They were Macedonians and they all gave their lives for free and independent Macedonia and they had nothing to do with Bulgaria. There was a part of them who were Bulgarians inserted in the organizations, who were actually the killers of the real Macedonian revolutioners, because it was in Bulgarian interest to weaken the organization, so they could take the lead in the organization and later put Macedonia in the hands of the Bulgarians. Thanks god, they did not succeed. Wikipedia claims that VMRO was pro-Bulgarian and the revolutioners were Bulgarian fighters. You suposed to see the face of my 94 year old grandfather when I told him your claims. Neurtal Wikipedia? I do not think so.

At the end I have to ask for Wikipedia NOT TO TAKE A SIDE IN THIS. I am not asking to remove the Greek and Bulgarian side of the story. But, why you ignore our claims, which are suported by many non-Greek and non-Bulgarian scientists and very largely through the web. There are just about 2-2.5 million Macedonians around the world. We do not have enought influence and strenght as Greece has, which is much more powerful and richer country than Macedonia. The Macedonian-Greek question is too hard and too complicated to solve. History can be interpreted in 1000 ways, especially on a teritory like the Balcany, where there are so many nations on so little space. Fortunately, DNA testings are getting more and more reliable and soon it will be possible to be used to acuratelly show the origin of our nations. I hope that then the denyal of me, my history, culture and existance will finaly stop. It is very disapointing that Wikipedia takes a part in all that.

With all the respect, Igor Šterbinski Skopje, Macedonia

Hexapod general Anim[edit]

Hi John, you moved my animated GIF from the german site to the Commons. Now I tried to upload a new version (better quality, less kB) but something went wrong. How can I do this (am I able to do this)?
PS: If you change names of pictures (german -> english) you should change the links, too. I did it for de:Montierung.

New Problems: On the image's site it shows the right version correct. But on the de:Montierung site a terrible mixture is shown. And: On the image's site it reads "There are no pages that link to this file." but there are.  ??

Latest findings: A look at the HTML source code shows that the WIKI software uses the new file with the dimensions of the old one. Does ist takes just a little bit of time until the software gets aware of the new size? Or does someone has to change it manually?

OK, it's me again: I set the width explicitly to the right amount, now the representation is correct. But this is not the normal way, is it?
--UtzOnBike 13:54, 7 August 2005 (UTC)

Nuclear power phase-out[edit]

Hi John. I noticed your edits in nuclear power phase-out, You did a good job in finding and correcting all those typos and grammatical mistakes and especially in removing the POV by I hope you stay and help some more. Cheers. --Ben T/C 01:46, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

User categorization[edit]

Greetings, JohnOwens! Please accept this message as an invitation to categorize your user page in the category Category:Wikipedians in Wisconsin and removing your name from the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Wisconsin page. The page will be removed when all users have been removed. Even if you do not wish to be placed in a category, could you take a moment to remove your name from the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Wisconsin page? Thanks!!

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Visual Basic Classic Wikibook[edit]

I see you have contributed to the Visual Basic article on Wikipedia. Any chance you would like to join in editing the wikibook: --Kjwhitefoot 09:59, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

photo usage permission[edit]

Dear Mr. Owens, I found your Wikipedia site after doing a Google image search for Monarch butterfly eggs. I have not been on this site before and am not sure how it works. I'm hoping you will get this message. The photo you have of the small caterpillar next to the eggs is fantastic. I'd like to use it in a display I am putting together. I could not determine from the licensing info if that photo has been released for public usage. I can be contacted at Thank you for your time.

Image Tagging Image:Phenol.png[edit]

Thanks for uploading Image:Phenol.png. I notice the image page currently doesn't specify who created the image, so the copyright status is therefore unclear. If you have not created the image yourself then you need to argue that we have the right to use the image on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the image yourself then you should also specify where you found it, i.e., in most cases link to the website where you got it, and the terms of use for content from that page.

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If you have uploaded other images, please check that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of image pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thanks so much. --Pak21 09:45, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Chimp chromosomes[edit]

Thanks for asking. I should have provided more information for that image. --JWSchmidt 00:16, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

Please check your WP:NA entry[edit]

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Thank you, and have a wiki wiki day! BD2412 T 03:54, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

Adminship on ru:[edit]

Hi John! Are you still willing to contribute to Russian WP? I'm asking you because we are discussing policy to desysop inactive admins. Look here: ru:Википедия:Голосования#Дезактивация неактивных администраторов. MaxSem 17:42, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

  • John, you've been desysopped on ru:. MaxSem 19:51, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:AV-8B Harrier.KC-10.drogue.small.png listed for deletion[edit]

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Fearsome Critters[edit]

hello i recently created the page Fearsome Critters ,i saw that you had origionally created the hodag page and was wondering if you would be willing to help me fill in the red links in my fearsome critters page.

i need to get it upo as soon as possible before it is tagged for deletion as nonsense or redlinks

it is similar to the hodag page and i would be very greatfull if you helped me fill in a few links thank you for support --!paradigm! 03:24, 29 July 2006 (UTC)!paradigm!

Cyrillic Alphabet[edit]

  • Hi. I noticed on your Russian wikipedia userpage that you were interested in typing in Russian. I'm not sure if you found out how to get it, but you can buy stickers for like three dollars on ebay for example. If you already have a way to type, I apologise for sounding like an advertisement. --Riley 02:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Wales-flag-medium.png[edit]

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Aviation userboxes[edit]

I just want to make sure before I undo too much (more), are the aviation userboxes supposed to be funny in some way that I'm overlooking? Putting "born in an aircraft" in the "pilot" category seems a bit amiss, and someone else had the text of Template:User pro pilot describing the user as an "aviation enthusiast", which seems rather off the mark. So am I missing something, or did these need fixing? --John Owens | (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I did the 'Pilot-N' ("born in an aircraft") as the serious logical progression of th -1,-2,-3 'Babel' system of userboxes. It does has a touch of humor to it, thus its popular use, and I strongly feel it should remain. The other boxes to which you refer I have no affiliation with, and hence decline to speak on. Of course, I am an 'inclusionist'. Cheers! Check-Six 22:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

World's Smallest Political Quiz userbox[edit]

You may be interested in User:Audacity/Userboxes/WSPQ, which is a replacement for the old Political Chart userbox. The new userbox takes the two variables (economic and personal freedom), calculates which political alignment they place you into (Statist, Libertarian, Liberal, Centrist, or Conservative), and links your userpage to the appropriate category.

Please reply to User talk:Audacity, as I will not be watching your talk page. Λυδαcιτγ 07:41, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Free Software[edit]

Hi John, I notice that you're interested in open-source/free software, and I wonder if you would like to join WikiProject Free Software. We're just starting out, and we could really use some members. Thanks! Geekman314(contact me) 18:15, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Separation of Church & State[edit]

Technically, I shouldn't contact you about this but this is disturbing. You believe that religion should not be mixed with government. Church and state means no National Church, not not minglement between government and religion. -- 23:46, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Age category[edit]

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Commons:Picture requests/Requests[edit]

Hi John, I just wanted to inform you, that I've done this. Please contact the one who replied if you still need it. Regards, --Flominator 12:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

A new page[edit]

Hello dear John. what is your opinion about this new page I made about a persian young journalist Kourosh Ziabari —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sate Journalist (talkcontribs) 09:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC).

Photo useage and credit[edit]

Hello John,

I run a website called Sonoran Desert Naturalist. My hosting company gives me only limited space so I've been putting more of my image files on Wiki. Why not. If someone else can use them in an inovative and creative way or just appreciate them that is fine with me.

I have linked to one of your photos in a similar way. You can see it at: Fishhook Barrel Cactus. Let me know if you have any comments, suggestions, or criticisms. I know my pages are full of typos that I fix when I can.



Lard protection[edit]

Hello JohnOwens. On April 19, you unprotected Lard with the following comment: "looks to me like that was a one-day spree, two months ago". Since then, the page has been vandalized at least five times by users from various IP addresses. I watch this page and I can say it is real magnet for vandals, so I believe it should be permanently semi-protected. Could you please reconsider the unprotection? Thanks — Kpalion(talk) 16:07, 3 May 2007 (UTC)


It was a typo, fixed now. Jimfbleak 06:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Germany Invitation[edit]

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Hello, JohnOwens! I'd like to call your attention to the WikiProject Germany and the German-speaking Wikipedians' notice board. I hope their links, sub-projects and discussions are interesting and even helpful to you. If not, I hope that new ones will be.

--Zeitgespenst (talk) 14:36, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

egg of monarch butterfly[edit]

Hello Mister Owens,

I am a grafic designer in Europe and for the design of a booklet for a pension-assurance I was looking for pictures from the life circle of the Monarch Butterfly. It is very hard to find a picture of the egg of this butterfly. I discovered yours (one egg on a leaf)

Do you hand out this picture in print size and allow to publish it one time? If yes, under which conditions?

Thank you a lot in advance for your answer. Please write to:

With best regards Anna Stenek —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 11:12, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Image:KC-135.C-5.thmb.jpg listed for deletion[edit]

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Found poetry[edit]

Hi. I noticed you did some minor editing at found poetry in 2003, and I was wondering if you were willing to please go have a look at the poor, stagnated article, and see if you can improve it all. --Justpassin (talk) 23:18, 8 June 2008 (UTC)


Hello! :) I thought you might be interested in this. Check it out and add your name under "Participants" if your interested. Have a nice day and happy editing! --Grrrlriot (talk) 18:48, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Викивстреча в США[edit]

Коллега! Есть мнение, что пора устроить первую встречу русскоязычных википедистов в США. Присоединяйтесь тут: (talk) 01:45, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

"Wikipedians interested in gems and jewelry"[edit]

Hi John,

Please excuse me. I have been advised to join the group. I put the code on my user page, but I'm not sure if I have it wrong or right. Could you please take a look at the bottom of my user page and let me know how to do the code.

Thanks in advance.. much appreciated.--Rickbrown9 (talk) 13:12, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Y/s, Richard Shaw Brown

---Never mind. I got it... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rickbrown9 (talkcontribs) 13:45, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:BuddyBolden.jpg[edit]


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Request to use Monarch photos![edit]

Hi John,

My name is Carolyn Loeb and I am a naturalist with the Appalachian Mountain Club, an environmental non profit organisation in the northeastern United States. I am currently writing a blog for the AMC Naturalists "Nature Notes" page on our website, and I would like double check that it is ok to use two of your images, “Monarch Butterfly Egg” and “Caterpillar and egg” in the blog. I will be sure to cite you as the photographer underneath both photos and in the source citations. Is this alright? Please relpy to

Thank! Carolyn —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 17:39, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Characteristics of common wasps and bees[edit]

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Notification: changes to "Mark my edits as minor by default" preference[edit]

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MSU Interview[edit]

Dear JohnOwens,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the communityHERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

So a few things about the interviews:

  • Interviews will last between 15 and 30 minutes.
  • Interviews can be conducted over skype (preferred), IRC or email. (You choose the form of communication based upon your comfort level, time, etc.)
  • All interviews will be completely anonymous, meaning that you (real name and/or pseudonym) will never be identified in any of our materials, unless you give the interviewer permission to do so.
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Bottom line is that we really need your help, and would really appreciate the opportunity to speak with you. If interested, please send me an email at (to maintain anonymity) and I will add your name to my offline contact list. If you feel comfortable doing so, you can post your nameHERE instead.

If you have questions or concerns at any time, feel free to email me at I will be more than happy to speak with you.

Thanks in advance for your help. We have a lot to learn from you.


Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chlopeck (talkcontribs) 23:06, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Happy Adminship Anniversary[edit]

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Edit-a-thon in Madison[edit]

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I saw that you are an admin in Wisconsin (based on your userpage), so if you're interested, I wanted to invite you to a humanities edit-a-thon in the Madison Public Library on Friday, April 25th (1:30–3:30). It'll be on the shorter side and is aimed at new editors, but I hope to see you there. More information is available on the 2014 UW Conference on the Public Humanities website. Let me know if you have any questions czar  04:32, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

Since you are interested in gemstones and jewelry please answer this question phantom quartz[edit]

Does phantom quartz ever come in silver or grey colour? Venustar84 (talk) 17:05, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Request for comment[edit]

Hello there, a proposal regarding pre-adminship review has been raised at Village pump by Anna Frodesiak. Your comments here is very much appreciated. Many thanks. Jim Carter through MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:47, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

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Extended confirmed protection[edit]

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Two-Factor Authentication now available for admins[edit]


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A new user right for New Page Patrollers[edit]

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A new user group, New Page Reviewer, has been created in a move to greatly improve the standard of new page patrolling. The user right can be granted by any admin at PERM. It is highly recommended that admins look beyond the simple numerical threshold and satisfy themselves that the candidates have the required skills of communication and an advanced knowledge of notability and deletion. Admins are automatically included in this user right.

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If you have any questions about this user right, don't hesitate to join us at WT:NPR. (Sent to all admins).MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:47, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

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ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

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