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Tech News: 2016-02[edit]

16:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

Emeco[edit]

The article has a dedicated section called "Restoration Hardware Lawsuit". There is a discussion on the Talk page about whether an individual lawsuit should have a dedicated section like this. Was hoping you could take a look if you have a minute? David King, Ethical Wiki (CorporateM) (Talk) 20:09, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-03[edit]

17:56, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-04[edit]

16:39, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Next up: Bi-directional switching[edit]

All yours. As usual, please direct any and all complaints about or desire for extra screenshots to me. Face-smile.svg Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 04:20, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): Okay, back to you. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 18:57, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
I'm not getting a confirmation (from the browser) that I want to lose all my work when I switch from VE to WT. It happens WT to VE, but not the other way. Is it working for you? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 23:28, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
@Whatamidoing (WMF): What you're seeing is what I saw, yesterday. That's why the VE user guide only mentions a confirmation once (WT to VE) rather than twice. I guess for some reason I thought that was the way things were supposed to be (not sure why); apologies for not mentioning it. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 23:53, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
So phab:T123960 is a one-way bug. I've added that information to the bug report.
I don't know what they're going to do about it; it'll probably get triaged next week. I suspect that this may be one of those "harder than it looks" problems. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 01:21, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
Whereas the docs match reality, I'm declaring this one "done". mw:VisualEditor/Single edit tab is my next project, which means that my next User guide project is going to be delayed a bit. I was thinking that the next one should be dealing with the citation mess; does that sound best to you? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 16:33, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
Sounds fine; I tend to go where you point me. (More constructively: you have a much better handle on what has changed and what needs more or better explanation.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 01:08, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-05[edit]

21:02, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-06[edit]

18:58, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 03 February 2016[edit]

Links[edit]

A new addition. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:22, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-07[edit]

16:16, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

Books & Bytes - Issue 15[edit]

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Tech News: 2016-08[edit]

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VisualEditor News #1—2016[edit]

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Tech News: 2016-09[edit]

20:12, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-10[edit]

20:24, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-11[edit]

18:37, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-12[edit]

16:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-13[edit]

19:43, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

Is my "fixed link" edit an improvement?[edit]

Could you glance at my recent edit and let me know if this is a valid change. I'd like to do other (similar) edits, but only if I know that I'm not barking up the wrong tree. (Sorry for this sloppy message; I don't know why the link in my message isn't working.) Thanks CWBoast (talk) 03:32, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

@CWBoast: Well, the wikilink now works, and it links to the right place, so you've definitely improved the page. (Thanks.)
However, the edit isn't as clean as it could be. Here's what you created:
[[Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Editing,_creating,_and_maintaining_articles/Setting_up_your_account_and_personal_workspace]]
(I've left off the part of the wikilink at the end that you didn't change)
Here's what the wikilink should look like, in the best of all worlds:
[[Help:Wikipedia: The Missing Manual/Editing, creating, and maintaining articles/Setting up your account and personal workspace]]
The difference is that underlines have been changed to spaces. Underlines do work in wikilinks, but they aren't needed. This can be confusing because underlines are required in external links - external links are basically URLs with single brackets around them, and a URL with an internal space is a non-functioning URL.
So, for example, when pointing to an edit, you use a diff - which is an external link. Here's the diff (link) for your edit:
[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Wikipedia:_The_Missing_Manual/Editing,_creating,_and_maintaining_articles/Setting_up_your_account_and_personal_workspace&diff=712583107&oldid=695459726]
Your edit
There isn't any way that I know of to create a wikilink (double brackets) that points to an edit, because (by definition) a wikilink points to a specific page, while an edit is the difference between two pages.
(I hope that helps.) -- John Broughton (♫♫) 04:42, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
@John Broughton: Thank you. I improved my previous edit and made another edit using what you said. But now I notice another, more abbreviated, method to link (to a section within the same article) in the "Uses for your user page" section, namely: "(see the section about userboxes)". (One difference may be that the "tooltip" doesn't show anything in the "more abbreviated method" -- but maybe showing nothing is better than showing what the tooltip shows in the fully-spelled-out method.) Which method do you think is preferable? (By the way, is my use of the "reply to" template inappropriate, since we are "talking" on your talk page?) CWBoast (talk) 11:34, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
@CWBoast: You're correct in thinking that the "reply to" template isn't needed when you're posting to someone else's user talk page; the MediaWiki software automatically notifies the user when anything is posted to his/her talk page.
You're also correct that when linking within a page, only a # sign and the section heading is needed, as:
[[#Userboxes|the section about userboxes]]
There are pluses and minuses to using the full wikilink - it's more robust in the sense that if the text is copied to another page, the wikilink still works. On the other hand, when someone looks at the wikitext (in edit mode), having the full page name does make the wikilink a bit more difficult to understand. But, as you point out, the tooltip behaves differently [which I find odd - that's a bug in the software, I'd argue] - what is shown when there is a full wikilink is much better than what is shown with just the # (anchor) text. (I'm seeing something in both cases, but what shows in the abbreviated version pertains to the page as a whole, not to the section being linked to.) So until the software is changed, I'd recommend a full wikilink even if the link is to a section on the same page. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 19:02, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

SUL username collisions detector[edit]

In the IP addresses change section of "Wikipedia: The Missing Manual" there is a reference to a "SUL username collisions detector". Clicking on his doesn't work. It appears that the software to which this refers is no longer located where it used to be. Is there a way to fix this reference? Thanks CWBoast (talk) 22:21, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

@CWBoast: It's no longer possible to have a user name collision - the Wikimedia Foundation eliminated all existing "collisions" a few years ago, as well as putting software in place that prevents future collisions. So the collision detector isn't relevant [which is presumably why it no longer exists - although everything on the toolserver is either at another site - WMF labs, I believe - or is defunct].
I've updated WP:TMM accordingly. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:36, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
"Tool Labs". See wikitech:Labs labs labs for Ops' preferred naming scheme. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:52, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Change[edit]

We are going to have to change mw:Help:VisualEditor/User guide#Opening the visual editor.

The central page is mw:VisualEditor/Single edit tab. The enwiki-specific information is now at WP:VPM#Single edit tab. And I'm beginning to think that every time James F says something will get simplified, that the user guide will need another hundred words and three screenshots to explain the "simple" thing. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:50, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-14[edit]

22:13, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Do you want one Edit tab, or two? It's your choice[edit]

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The editing interface will be changed soon. When that happens, editors who currently see two editing tabs – "Edit" and "Edit source" – will start seeing one edit tab instead. The single edit tab has been popular at other Wikipedias. When this is deployed here, you may be offered the opportunity to choose your preferred appearance and behavior the next time you click the Edit button. You will also be able to change your settings in the Editing section of Special:Preferences.

You can choose one or two edit tabs. If you chose one edit tab, then you can switch between the two editing environments by clicking the buttons in the toolbar (shown in the screenshots). See Help:VisualEditor/User guide#Switching between the visual and wikitext editors for more information and screenshots.

There is more information about this interface change at mw:VisualEditor/Single edit tab. If you have questions, suggestions, or problems to report, then please leave a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback.

Whatamidoing (WMF) 19:22, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-15[edit]

20:44, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 14 April 2016[edit]

Books & Bytes - Issue 16[edit]

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Tech News: 2016-16[edit]

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Tech News: 2016-18[edit]

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18:40, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

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Tech News: 2016-22[edit]

16:19, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-23[edit]

20:51, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-24[edit]

18:41, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

Books & Bytes - Issue 17[edit]

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Tech News: 2016-25[edit]

19:14, 20 June 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-26[edit]

15:42, 27 June 2016 (UTC)

Editing News #2—2016[edit]

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The Signpost: 04 July 2016[edit]

Tech News: 2016-27[edit]

19:45, 4 July 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-28[edit]

15:14, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Help - In creating new article for Edelweiss Tokio Life[edit]

Hello,

Hope you are doing great.

As per your suggestion, I tried to find out paid users who can write article for us but no luck.

Now I am planning to go with other way, where I would create a draft from my side and submit to you for review, once you give approval then only I would go ahead and submit for review.

Please suggest if this approach seems fine to you.

Best Regards, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Risingguns_007


Hi John,

As suggested I have made the changes in draft, please review it and suggest the next step.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Risingguns_007/Edelweiss_Tokio_Life_Insurance — Preceding unsigned comment added by Risingguns 007 (talkcontribs) 10:28, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Hi John,

As suggested I have made the changes in draft, if you get time please review it and suggest the next step. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Risingguns_007/Edelweiss_Tokio_Life_Insurance

Risingguns 007 (talk) 04:29, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-29[edit]

12:01, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 21 July 2016[edit]

Edelweiss Tokio Life Insurance Wiki Page[edit]

Hi John,

As suggested I have made the changes and saved in draft, please review it and suggest the next step. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Risingguns_007/Edelweiss_Tokio_Life_Insurance


Risingguns 007 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:43, 25 July 2016 (UTC)


Hello John,

Hope you are doing great.

As per your instruction, I have added more citation in my draft. Can you please review it and suggest what to do next.

Draft: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Risingguns_007/Edelweiss_Tokio_Life_Insurance

Thanks, Risingguns 007 (talk) 10:21, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-30[edit]

19:54, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-31[edit]

21:48, 1 August 2016 (UTC)

New screenshots, new work[edit]

Hi John,

ScreenshotBot is fixed, and there's new updates to make. I've noted a few additions to the Insert menu and will work my way down the page as and when I can. Please feel free to follow after me and clean up the mess that I'm making.  ;-) Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:26, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Here's a few notes (numbered for your convenience):

  1. The bit that runs "To change or remove an existing link, click within the text for that link, then press the "Link" icon that appears near it" has changed significantly.
  2. They moved the Cite button into the Insert menu for a lot of non-Wikipedias. I don't know what the default for non-WMF wikis is. But this may affect the plans we still hadn't implemented for the ref stuff.
  3. The bit that I changed for the Insert menu says that it shows everything, but it doesn't. It shows what's available at the English Wikipedia. Maps is available at some wikis, and some wikis have the ref stuff in there.
  4. The "Basic reference" and "Re-use reference" labels have changed, and I can't find the right replacement. The pieces are:
    • Basic "basic"
    • Re-use "re-use"
    • $1 reference "reference"
    but the last item expects the first two to get passed as parameters or something, and I don't know how to do that in wikitext. (Maybe User:Guillom does.)

That's as far as I'm going to get today. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 20:18, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): I've done a bit of tweaking today, though not much. I did look at #1, above - lots of rewriting, as you say. Could you add an image showing what the edit dialog looks like (that is, what the user sees after he/she clicks on "Edit")? If you do, I'd like the existing image tied to just the first paragraph, and the new image tied to the other three paragraphs.
Also, regarding #3, could you tell me the places in the list where (on wikis other than the English Wikipedia) the items for Maps and for ref stuff? I'd like to add just a mention of these two, in the right places. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 23:50, 6 August 2016 (UTC)

For #3, the end of the Insert menu at Wikivoyage runs like this:

  • gallery
  • formula
  • map
  • graph
  • your signature
  • reference list
  • basic reference
  • re-use reference

-end of list-

I'd be happy to split #1, and will ping you when I get the screenshots made (guaranteed not to be for the next several hours, and feel free to ping me if it takes more than a few days). Thanks! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 17:20, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

John, did you look through the diffs? I just saw that this one has a huge minus sign for the number of bytes, and I seriously do not remember making some of these edits. I don't think that I touched the divs, for example, and the "just do it" language at one point doesn't sound like something I would write. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:25, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
@Whatamidoing (WMF): Nope, I didn't look through the diffs, so I didn't see the big deletion. I did comment, in my edit summary for this edit, that I was putting some deleted stuff back in, but hadn't researched why it was deleted. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 22:07, 10 August 2016 (UTC)

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Nomination of Harry Welty for deletion[edit]

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Editing News #3—2016[edit]

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The team is working on a modern wikitext editor. The 2017 wikitext editor will look like the visual editor and be able to use the citoid service and other modern tools. This new editing system may become available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices in October 2016. You can read about this project in a general status update on the Wikimedia mailing list.

Let's work together[edit]

Do you teach new editors how to use the visual editor? Did you help set up the Citoid automatic reference feature for your wiki? Have you written or imported TemplateData for your most important citation templates? Would you be willing to help new editors and small communities with the visual editor? Please sign up for the new VisualEditor Community Taskforce.

If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:19, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-10[edit]

Tech News: 2016-42[edit]

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Tech News: 2016-43[edit]

17:39, 24 October 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-44[edit]

16:18, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 19[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 19, September–October 2016
by Nikkimaria, Sadads and UY Scuti

  • New and expanded donations - Foreign Affairs, Open Edition, and many more
  • New Library Card Platform and Conference news
  • Spotlight: Fixing one million broken links

Read the full newsletter



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Tech News: 2016-45[edit]

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Tech News: 2016-46[edit]

19:17, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Collaboration products newsletter: 2016-11[edit]

16:32, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-47[edit]

15:33, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open![edit]

Scale of justice 2.svg Hello, John Broughton. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:08, 21 November 2016 (UTC)

In-editor help[edit]

Hi John,

I just ran through the wishlist proposals, and I think that we don't really need people to vote on your proposal (and wait at least six months before the wishlist "winners" will be addressed anyway). How do you feel about a quicker, easier system? You decide where the in-help system (the little (i) buttons) should go, and what the box should say when you click on them, and the devs just add them? They'll of course do a sanity check to make sure that a button won't break the workflow, but I think they'd be happy to implement them. You'd only need to file a phab task with the location and text, tagged with "VisualEditor" so that they'll be sure to see it. Will that work for you? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 00:03, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): I think that's a great way to make quick progress. So I apologize if I seem to be quibbling, but I'd only want to move forward on this if the boxes can contain wikilinks, and if clicking on such a link opened a new tab or window. Would that be a problem? -- John Broughton (♫♫) 05:31, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

Maybe. MediaWiki: items can be translated (plus-good), but they can't contain wikitext (insert technical handwaving here) – or so I've been told. But it's got to be possible to include wikilinks, because MediaWiki:Wikimedia-copyrightwarning contains some. I'll ask around and see if I can get a definitive answer. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 09:14, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
So the answer seems to be "kind of". The help messages are strictly plain text, and there's apparently all kinds of internationalization and accessiblity reasons (especially on mobile) behind this. But if you wanted one link, then they could set up a "Read more" system, which would definitely open in a separate tab. So something like "You need to use reliable sources" isn't feasible, but "You need to use reliable sources. Read more" would be possible. Would that be sufficient? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:04, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
@Whatamidoing (WMF): I think that a "Read more" link would be fine, but I'd generally want to open a "bridging" page rather than directly link to an existing page. For example, for citations, I'd want to provide links for both reliable sources (a guideline) and the section of the user manual related to citations (technical help). So that bridging page might be at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Help system/Citations, and have a shortcut of WP:VE/HS/CITE. Such pages probably would be fairly short - just enough information so that the editor isn't surprised by what opens if he/she clicks a link on that such a page.
I'm guessing that it doesn't matter what the "Read more" link is to, so that bridging pages wouldn't be a problem. If they're not [perhaps I missed something?], then I think we're ready to try out this out. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 20:45, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
I don't think that they truly care what the link goes to, so long as it's sensible. Would you prefer centralizing those links (e.g., a help page on mw.org) or making them wiki-specific (each Wikipedia, Wikivoyage, Wikisource, etc. chooses its own, knowing that most won't have/create a relevant page)?
They'll have to build the "Read more" system for you, but it didn't sound like a particularly complicated thing. Do you want to write up one (perhaps simpler) task to start, and see how that works out? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:07, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 4 November 2016[edit]

Tech News: 2016-48[edit]

21:16, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

Please double-check the user guide[edit]

See this, which worries me because I think that this is a simple paste error (click inside a file name and paste, rather than select-and-click the file name to replace it), but it might instead mean that we've lost an entire row (or more) of the table.

Also, are you satisfied with this on the musical score?

If you're happy with these changes, then please {{ping}} me and tell me to mark the page for translation. Thanks, Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 07:26, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

@Whatamidoing (WMF): To answer the second question first - yes, the musical score addition is fine, except that it would be good to crop/replace the screenshot of the Insert menu - there isn't any reason to show the bottom half of the menu, the part below what is being selected.
As for the first question, I'll get back to you on that by Wednesday. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 17:19, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-49[edit]

18:07, 5 December 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-50[edit]

19:29, 12 December 2016 (UTC)

Collaboration products newsletter: 2016-12[edit]

10:09, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

Tech News: 2016-51[edit]

20:33, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

The Signpost: 22 December 2016[edit]

Tech News: 2017-02[edit]

19:12, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

New page reviewer granted[edit]

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Hello John Broughton. Your account has been added to the "New page reviewers" user group, allowing you to review new pages and mark them as patrolled, tag them for maintenance issues, or in some cases, tag them for deletion. The list of articles awaiting review is located at the New Pages Feed. New page reviewing is a vital function for policing the quality of the encylopedia, if you have not already done so, you must read the new tutorial at New Pages Review, the linked guides and essays, and fully understand the various deletion criteria. If you need more help or wish to discuss the process, please join or start a thread at page reviewer talk.

  • URGENT: Please consider helping get the huge backlog (around 15,000 pages) down to a manageable number of pages as soon as possible.
  • Be nice to new users - they are often not aware of doing anything wrong.
  • You will frequently be asked by users to explain why their page is being deleted - be formal and polite in your approach to them too, even if they are not.
  • Don't review a page if you are not sure what to do. Just leave it for another reviewer.
  • Remember that quality is quintessential to good patrolling. Take your time to patrol each article, there is no rush. Use the message feature and offer basic advice.

The reviewer right does not change your status or how you can edit articles. If you no longer want this user right, you may ask any administrator to remove it for you at any time. In case of abuse or persistent inaccuracy of reviewing, the right can be revoked at any time by an administrator. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:18, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Share your experience and feedback as a Wikimedian in this global survey[edit]

Tech News: 2017-03[edit]

23:24, 16 January 2017 (UTC)

Hello[edit]

Hello. I noticed you added a Page Curation script that I had made to your common.js page. It seems you have added more than the required part of the script. I would suggest undoing that edit. To install the page curation script, simply copy the following into your common.js page.

importScript('User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js'); // Linkback: User:Lourdes/PageCuration.js

Note: You will need to manually bypass your cache after installation. Visit Wikipedia:Bypass your cache to see how to do this.

Thanks. Lourdes 10:05, 17 January 2017 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 20[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 20, November-December 2016
by Nikkimaria (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), UY Scuti (talk · contribs), Samwalton9 (talk · contribs)

  • Partner resource expansions
  • New search tool for finding TWL resources
  • #1lib1ref 2017
  • Wikidata Visiting Scholar

Read the full newsletter

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:00, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Collaboration products newsletter: 2017-01[edit]

18:16, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-04[edit]

20:15, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-05[edit]

18:45, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.2[edit]

Hello John Broughton,
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A HUGE backlog

We now have 428 New Page Reviewers!
Most of us requested the user right at PERM, expressing a wish to be able to do something about the huge backlog, but the chart on the right does not demonstrate any changes to the pre-user-right levels of October.

Hitting 17,000 soon

The backlog is still steadily growing at a rate of 150 a day or 4,650 a month. Only 20 reviews a day by each reviewer over the next few days would bring the backlog down to a managable level and the daily input can then be processed by each reviewer doing only 2 or 3 reviews a day - that's about 5 minutes work!
It didn't work in time to relax for the Xmas/New Year holidays. Let's see if we can achieve our goal before Easter, otherwise by Thanksgiving it will be closer to 70,000.

Second set of eyes

Remember that we are the only guardians of quality of new articles, we alone have to ensure that pages are being correctly tagged by non-Reviewer patrollers and that new authors are not being bitten.

Abuse

This is even more important and extra vigilance is required considering Orangemoody, and

  1. this very recent case of paid advertising by a Reviewer resulting in a community ban.
  2. this case in January of paid advertising by a Reviewer, also resulting in a community ban.
  3. This Reviewer is indefinitely blocked for sockpuppetry.

Coordinator election[edit]

Kudpung is stepping down after 6 years as unofficial coordinator of New Page Patrolling/Reviewing. There is enough work for two people and two coords are now required. Details are at NPR Coordinators; nominate someone or nominate yourself. Date for the actual suffrage will be published later.


Discuss this newsletter here. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 06:11, 5 February 2017 (UTC)

The Signpost: 6 February 2017[edit]

Tech News: 2017-06[edit]

19:45, 6 February 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-07[edit]

18:06, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Collaboration products newsletter: 2017-02[edit]

09:40, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review-Patrolling: Coordinator elections[edit]

Your last chance to nominate yourself or any New Page Reviewer, See Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Coordination. Elections begin Monday 20 February 23:59 UTC. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:17, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-08[edit]

19:25, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - newsletter No.3[edit]

Hello John Broughton,
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Voting for coordinators has now begun HERE and will continue through/to 23:59 UTC Monday 06 March. Please be sure to vote. Any registered, confirmed editor can vote. Nominations are now closed.

Still a MASSIVE backlog

We now have 428 New Page Reviewers but despite numerous appeals for help, the backlog has NOT been significantly reduced.
If you asked for the New Page Reviewer right, please consider investing a bit of time - every little helps preventing spam and trash entering the mainspace and Google when the 'NO_INDEX' tags expire.


Discuss this newsletter here. If you wish to opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself from the mailing list. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 15:35, 21 February 2017 (UTC)

Your feedback matters: Final reminder to take the global Wikimedia survey[edit]

Tech News: 2017-09[edit]

19:55, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

UI changes[edit]

It looks like they're planning to change some icons at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T116417

BTW, they'll probably do an automated update of screenshots in a month or so (most likely after the visual diff system has landed). I expect that most of the changes will be on the right half of the toolbar. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:19, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

P.S. Your talk page exceeds half a million bytes. Do you want to archive 2015? Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:20, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-10[edit]

23:23, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-11[edit]

15:25, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Collaboration products newsletter: 2017-03[edit]

17:02, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-12[edit]

22:03, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-13[edit]

14:46, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-14[edit]

17:53, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 21[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 21, January-March 2017
by Nikkimaria (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), UY Scuti (talk · contribs), Samwalton9 (talk · contribs), Sadads (talk · contribs)

  • #1lib1ref 2017
  • Wikipedia Library User Group
  • Wikipedia + Libraries at Wikimedia Conference 2017
  • Spotlight: Library Card Platform

Read the full newsletter

Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:54, 6 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-15[edit]

18:35, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-16[edit]

19:32, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Collaboration products newsletter: 2017-04[edit]

13:04, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-17[edit]

16:40, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-18[edit]

19:50, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-19[edit]

02:25, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Editing News #1—2017[edit]

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VisualEditor
Did you know?

Did you know that you can review your changes visually?

Screenshot showing some changes to an article.  Most changes are highlighted with text formatting.
When you are finished editing the page, type your edit summary and then choose "Review your changes".

In visual mode, you will see additions, removals, new links, and formatting highlighted. Other changes, such as changing the size of an image, are described in notes on the side.

Toggle button showing visual and wikitext options; visual option is selected.

Click the toggle button to switch between visual and wikitext diffs.

Screenshot showing the same changes, in the two-column wikitext diff display.

The wikitext diff is the same diff tool that is used in the wikitext editors and in the page history.

You can read and help translate the user guide, which has more information about how to use the visual editor.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor Team has spent most of their time supporting the 2017 wikitext editor mode which is available inside the visual editor as a Beta Feature, and adding the new visual diff tool. Their workboard is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the work finished each week at mw:VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, supporting the 2017 wikitext editor as a beta feature, and improving the visual diff tool.

Recent changes[edit]

A new wikitext editing mode is available as a Beta Feature on desktop devices. The 2017 wikitext editor has the same toolbar as the visual editor and can use the citoid service and other modern tools. Go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures to enable the New wikitext mode.

A new visual diff tool is available in VisualEditor's visual mode. You can toggle between wikitext and visual diffs. More features will be added to this later. In the future, this tool may be integrated into other MediaWiki components. [470]

The team have added multi-column support for lists of footnotes. The <references /> block can automatically display long lists of references in columns on wide screens. This makes footnotes easier to read. You can request multi-column support for your wiki. [471]

Other changes:

  • You can now use your web browser's function to switch typing direction in the new wikitext mode. This is particularly helpful for RTL language users like Urdu or Hebrew who have to write JavaScript or CSS. You can use Command+Shift+X or Control+Shift+X to trigger this. [472]
  • The way to switch between the visual editing mode and the wikitext editing mode is now consistent. There is a drop-down menu that shows the two options. This is now the same in desktop and mobile web editing, and inside things that embed editing, such as Flow. [473]
  • The Categories item has been moved to the top of the Page options menu (from clicking on the "hamburger" icon) for quicker access. [474] There is also now a "Templates used on this page" feature there. [475]
  • You can now create <chem> tags (sometimes used as <ce>) for chemical formulas inside the visual editor. [476]
  • Tables can be set as collapsed or un-collapsed. [477]
  • The Special character menu now includes characters for Canadian Aboriginal Syllabics and angle quotation marks (‹› and ⟨⟩) . The team thanks the volunteer developer, Tpt. [478]
  • A bug caused some section edit conflicts to blank the rest of the page. This has been fixed. The team are sorry for the disruption. [479]
  • There is a new keyboard shortcut for citations: Control+Shift+K on a PC, or Command+Shift+K on a Mac. It is based on the keyboard shortcut for making links, which is Control+K on a PC or Command+K on a Mac. [480]

Future changes[edit]

  • The VisualEditor team is working with the Community Tech team on a syntax highlighting tool. It will highlight matching pairs of <ref> tags and other types of wikitext syntax. You will be able to turn it on and off. It will first become available in VisualEditor's built-in wikitext mode, maybe late in 2017. [481]
  • The kind of button used to Show preview, Show changes, and finish an edit will change in all WMF-supported wikitext editors. The new buttons will use OOjs UI. The buttons will be larger, brighter, and easier to read. The labels will remain the same. You can test the new button by editing a page and adding &ooui=1 to the end of the URL, like this: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Sandbox?action=edit&ooui=1 The old appearance will no longer be possible, even with local CSS changes. [482]
  • The outdated 2006 wikitext editor will be removed later this year. It is used by approximately 0.03% of active editors. See a list of editing tools on mediawiki.org if you are uncertain which one you use. [483]

If you aren't reading this in your preferred language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you! User:Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 19:19, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-20[edit]

21:48, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

Collaboration products newsletter: 2017-05[edit]

15:19, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

New Page Review - Newsletter No.4[edit]

Hello John Broughton,
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Since rolling out the right in November, just 6 months ago, we now have 428 reviewers, but the backlog is still mysteriously growing fast. If every reviewer did just 55 reviews, the 22,000 backlog would be gone, in a flash, schwoop, just like that!

But do remember: Rather than speed, quality and depth of patrolling and the use of correct CSD criteria are essential to good reviewing. Do not over-tag. Make use of the message feature to let the creator know about your maintenance tags. See the tutorial again HERE. Get help HERE.

Stay up to date with recent new page developments and have your say, read THIS PAGE.


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Tech News: 2017-21[edit]

22:06, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-22[edit]

12:18, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-23[edit]

19:04, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-24[edit]

15:29, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-25[edit]

15:44, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Books and Bytes - Issue 22[edit]

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Books & Bytes
Issue 22, April-May 2017

  • New and expanded research accounts
  • Global branches update
  • Spotlight: OCLC Partnership
  • Bytes in brief

Read the full newsletter

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The Signpost: 23 June 2017[edit]

Collaboration products newsletter: 2017-06[edit]

08:41, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Tech News: 2017-26[edit]

15:38, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

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