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BTW thanks for fixing the errors in the schools lists - if you know any others or have any sources that would be useful, feel free :) Orderinchaos 09:07, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Please do not change other people's comments in talk pages[edit]

On this edit[1] you made a legitimate comment, but also disrupted the date in another comment in an earlier, unrelated section. It is hard to see how this could be done accidentally, so please avoid doing that in the future. Thank you. SeaphotoTalk 05:39, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Harry Morgan (footballer)[edit]

Hi John. I was just wondering when your source was for Harry Morgan's death date? Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 15:31, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Northam cemetery inscriptions: http://www.ozburials.com/CemsWA/Northam/northam.htm John beta (talk) 00:00, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Cheers, Jenks24 (talk) 10:08, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

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Francisco Vittorio Barrios del Esparza[edit]

Hi. Can you please tell me if you have proof of Francisco Vittorio Barrios del Esparza being a hoax? Thanks! --Ecelan (talk) 20:03, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I've responded on Ecelan (talk)
John beta (talk) 05:53, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the answer. I was already suspecting that the articles might be a hoax, but I couldn't find any evidence. --Ecelan (talk) 19:28, 21 February 2012 (UTC)

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Colonial forces of Australia[edit]

I have made a comment at Talk:Colonial forces of Australia and request your input. Thanks. Anotherclown (talk) 13:36, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

wheatbelt[edit]

If that is the case it would be very useful if you could provide a ref/cite for that - the Wheatbelt (Western Australia) article is very short on refs - and an explanation as to the disparity between the two (the claim for the size vs the admin version) would be a very helpful addition if you had something to hand on that SatuSuro 03:02, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

thank you very much, your reply is very useful - when I created the regions of wa central article - it was exactly what you are telling me that I was hoping to incorporate - that somehow something that has to be explained (it is an unfinished project that article) - the adding the exceptions into that article is important.. I remember a family associated farm closer to mount gibson than wubin is now considered by some to not even be in the wheatbelt anymore, and even 10 years ago the old mullewa rail line area was considered marginal while the midland rail line was almost 'the edge' when it came to rainfall in dry seasons... SatuSuro 09:50, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Hill River[edit]

Nice work on all the rivers in WA that your are fixing up, The origin of Hill River I had put as Dinner Hill, which is a hill not a town and was the closest feature to the origin I could find on Bonzle, but the closest town is (as you put) is definitely Badgingarra. Anyway just to let you know it wasn't a hoax, just some poor editing on my behalf. Keep up the good work! Hughesdarren (talk) 04:12, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

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Berckelman River[edit]

Hi, good to see another Wikipedian with an interest in NW history :-) I have just reverted your last two edits to Berckelman River and made a few other corrections: Mary Ann, bron 1822 (and her sister Eleanor) spelt their surname Berckelman; it is highly unlikely that both TC & RJ Sholl would have misspelt their mother's/wife's maiden name and Landgate also suggests that the river has always been spelt "Berckelman" <http://www.landgate.wa.gov.au/corporate.nsf/web/History+of+river+names> (so I guess the newspaper made a mistake). Also, The Sholls moved from Camden Harbor to Tien Tsin Harbor (later Cossack) in late November 1865 (not 1866). (Roebourne did not exist at the time; the townsite was chosen by RJ Sholl and it was gazetted in 1866 (see <http://www.landgate.wa.gov.au/corporate.nsf/web/History+of+Country+Town+Names>). Cheers, Grant | Talk 06:03, 8 November 2012 (UTC)


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apologies in advance[edit]

I am sorry , but I have a problem with the Midland railway line edit you added - the extension beyond Midland, in effect belongs to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Railway_%28Western_Australia%29 - a long abandoned and not improved for many years article... Helena Vale/Midland is the article context the terminus of the story, and anything further really should be on the Eastern Railway article (which the midland line was part of)... It would be good to talk about this first before modifying any further, if we can - cheers sats 09:20, 30 July 2013 (UTC)

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A pie for you![edit]

A very beautiful Nectarine Pie.jpg Thank you for your recent edits to the Perth article, those are exactly the sorts of edits needed to get the article back up to GA standards. Cheers, Evad37 (talk) 04:40, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

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Perth temperatures[edit]

Looks like you only reverted 1 of the IP's 2 edits to the pages, after I had undone both edits. My last edit (revert of your edit) restores the numbers to before the IP edited, with the only changes being the correction of the year ranges (diff now to 30 Oct 2013). - Evad37 (talk) 02:57, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

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A cookie for you![edit]

Choco chip cookie.png Nice work at Benjamin Smith (engraver) KeithbobTalk 02:59, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Happy Christmas[edit]

Thank you for your work on Western Australian articles !! satusuro 01:47, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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Timeline of Australian history[edit]

Hello! May I ask what exactly do notable Australian events constitute? If I may, I'd like to point out that for the year 1788, the exact same format was contributed! It's a dilemma because most of the information which I intend to contribute are in that format too! >.<

I'm thus seeking permission for reverting back to include my contributions (With your opinion of course c:). Thanks, Tayzhian (talk) 07:28, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Good stuff for dates[edit]

But please, cites or WP:RS - please satusuro 13:24, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

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Melbourne pronunciation[edit]

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List of active gold mines in Nevada[edit]

Hello, I had added my Mine to this page and you removed it and left a comment. The figure quoted was from bulk testing and sampling from various locations of the property. All permitting from the state have been granted and we are fully bonded. Dun Glen has commenced full production as of November 2014. Yield projections for 2015 are expected to exceed the lower 2 mines that are listed on the page. My question is, Since we are an active mine in Nevada, How do I have my mine show up on that page? Thank you Pete.umrc (talk) 21:52, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

Pete,
Active mines should have a reference for their latest production figures. There is a bunch of permitted mines in Nevada about to go into production that have impressive forecast production rates but that's not what this list is for. Perhaps some Dun Glen December quarter production figures when they are filed would do the job, but at the moment there is no citable information for this mine as a producer that I can see/find. John beta (talk) 05:37, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Australian Dictionary of Biography[edit]

People with articles on ADB meet the basic requirement of being sufficient notable to be mention within articles, in most case they meet the requirements of being sufficiently notable for stand alone articles please refrain from reverting editors who cite ABD by claiming they arent notable... would also point otu that WP:AGF and WP:BITE are also something you could consider before reverting new editors with such ridiculous assertions that people cited to relaible sources arent notable. Gnangarra 13:20, 30 March 2015 (UTC)

Peter Howson Australian Politician[edit]

John, some time ago I removed the quote "He gave me, trees, boongs and pooftas." I did this because I very much doubt Peter Howson ever would have said this, it did have a cite to a newspaper article, but I did not believe the article. He was my Godfather and I knew him for 50 years until he passed away. He never used such words, being an English gentleman type. Also, I don't think a person who speaks this way would have received the awards for service to Indiginous Australians, which he did receive. I suppose the article is more amusing with this quote but it doesn't add up. Also I think that it doesn't help the reputation of our politicians in this country, especially when they are not here to stick up for themselves, when we represent them in this way. I see you have put the quote back in, but I would really appreciate it if you could remove it for me, thank you. Elizabeth McCarthy (Nee Jess) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ejess (talkcontribs) 01:55, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

gold mining royalties[edit]

Thanks for your addition to Gold mining in the United States. I have only two quibbles. First, by leaving out the controversy part, the reader may miss the point of which criticism is being refuted here. It is a common criticism, and should be mentioned. Second, I have never before heard of these severance and extraction taxes referred to as "royalties." The description of these taxes as "royalties" appears to be an invention of your source, which introduces them as "functional royalties," and then refers to them as royalties. Strictly speaking, these are not royalties as the word is commonly used, because they are not paid to the mineral owner (ignoring the subject of overriding royalties). I believe that in accordance with WP:COMMONNAME they should be referred to as severance or extraction taxes. I would suggest that the section start like so:

Federal lands and royalties
Many western US gold mines are located on federal public land, on which the mining companies pay no royalties to the US government. Gold mines operate under the General Mining Act of 1872, which permits mining of gold and certain other minerals on public land without payment of royalties.[1]
Mining proponents point out that gold mining is subject to various state extraction and severance taxes, which serve as "functional royalties," in that they allocate to the state governments a share of the gold and other minerals mined. ......

What do you think? Regards. Plazak (talk) 03:44, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

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Boogardie[edit]

Hi

We need to have a discussion - the three aspects of the use of the name boogardie and mount magnet are not as simple as separting the orbicular to the granit article, as the mount magnet orbicular has a number links to perth things, to mount magnet, and also the ghost town is separate from the pastoral lease, so I do agree with a separate pastroal lease aricle, but i do think either a disambig, or a good set of redirects to separate adrticles.

so are you willing to discuss this further? JarrahTree 03:58, 3 December 2015 (UTC)


As it is the edited article looks very wrong - I do think a general disambig article as I had it would be better than excluding the info - then, leading to the separate articles. But it would be very good if we could agree to fix it, as it is there is inadequate flagging of the 3 (if not 4 uses), also the slippage - some literature and sites will use the nearest centre like mount magnet as a reference point JarrahTree 04:04, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

as for this ams early edits[edit]

wheesh, a whole set of railway edits loaded in almost 3 a minute [2], not sure what was going on there, some very odd tyops amongst the edits, spelling and weirdnesses, but very correct cites/refs, very odd. cheers JarrahTree 03:31, 7 December 2015 (UTC)

The editor is using a template to bring all railway station info into one format that probably coincides with Transperth's view of itself, but unfortunately also brings in errors. A lot of stuff has been removed, so this hardly fits as a copy-edit.John beta (talk) 04:20, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
Interesting, the phrase 'serves... a place' as text, and the use of 'copyedit' in summary was the tell tale signature of a notorious sock :( JarrahTree 07:44, 7 December 2015 (UTC)


Thank you[edit]

For your patience on the railway station articles JarrahTree 08:04, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

For your getting a ref for the ubiquitous county arts, I found the trove ref for the same book, what a mouthfull!! JarrahTree 13:04, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

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thank you[edit]

for your plodding away at west oz articles, it is appreciated! JarrahTree 13:25, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

but interesting the esperance to laverton is now standard guage as well.... JarrahTree 09:59, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

It's Leonora to Esperance - the Laverton spur was taken up. The standard gauge line was put in to transport copper and nickel concentrates from Teutonic Bore, Leinster (both from Leonora) and Windara (from Malcolm). It now mainly services Murrin Murrin (from Malcolm siding).John beta (talk) 11:03, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

Geraldton[edit]

Thanks for the correction. I see the item is covered in the Port Gregory article, so I will correct the I-165 article as well NealeFamily (talk) 04:01, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

I have tidied up the Shelling of Port Gregory as part of the excercise. NealeFamily (talk) 22:52, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Makassan contact with Australia[edit]

Please do not insult my intelligence with a "speculation" wiki policy link that is irrelevant to my edit. Even the date of Jesus's birth is speculation, so would you like to go ahead and remove it? 49.181.221.193 (talk) 22:47, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

When you want to unjustifiably remove cited content on wiki it helps not to try the tactic of repeating a lie until it becomes reality. I have mentioned twice now in the edit summary section that the BBC source ACTUALLY says "one of the figures appears to have been made before 1664, perhaps as early as the 1500s." You appear to repeatedly deliberately cut-off my quote at 1664 — conveniently ignoring the second part that exposes your lie. Such shiftiness is unacceptable on wiki, and if you repeat it i will report your actions to have you blocked. 49.195.33.98 (talk) 22:38, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

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Megan Clark -- "clean up" doesn't allow for unexplained deletions[edit]

Hello. I see you deleted my citation of the date that Megan Clark became an AC. There are numerous sources saying it was in 2011, and I provided a citation in the text when I made that improvement to the article. I see you deleted that with the mere mention of "clean up." The source you pointed to has no citations. I am presuming good faith on your part and would ask you to provide a verifiable WP:cite as I had done. Per WP standards, sourced materials should not be just deleted without comment or explanation. Thanks much and best regards. GetSomeUtah (talk) 10:42, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

  1. ^ NBC News, Fleecing of America, March 15, 2010, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#35883250