User talk:Josephryanorr

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AfC notification: User:Josephryanorr/sandbox has a new comment[edit]

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at User:Josephryanorr/sandbox. Thanks! Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 11:34, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Michele S. Mirman has been accepted[edit]

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Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 13:12, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

First article BLP: seeking help bumping page from C to B rating[edit]

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Hello! I'm really excited to be contributing to Wikipedia. There's no better time than now to start. I'm currently editing a page that was published as a C and I'd like to try and get it to B rating. The page is 'Michele S Mirman'. Would any professional Wiki editors out there have the patience to help guide me a little? I'm new and trying my best to become better at this so I can continue creating more. LMK!


Josephryanorr (talk) 20:19, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

The various WikiProjects have (not necessarily identical) quality criteria that are linked from the WikiProject banners on the talk page. For example, you can find those for WikiProject Law at Wikipedia:WikiProject Law/Assessment#Quality scale. At a glance I'd say the page's main shortcoming is that it relies very heavily on primary sources and sources that are not independent of the subject, such as the websites of organizations she is associated with - and all the secondary sources are merely local news. Then there's the problem that some information isn't sourced at all. A little more context also couldn't hurt: The article twice mentions that she won "the largest verdict [then] ever ($4M) for a female attorney on behalf of a rape victim" - but doesn't mention that she won it from the people who bungled installing the door locks. This incident in particular is one where I'd assume more than just local news should exist. Huon (talk) 21:55, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

@Huon and Huon:Thank you for all your advice! I'll have to get better sources to improve this article. Hopefully you get this.

@Huon: What information doesn't appear to be sourced at all? I'm curious, because I've done my best to cover everything as best as possible.

Which source mentions her marriage and surrounding details? Huon (talk) 22:46, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

@Huon: I do not see any of that information in the Wiki - are you looking at an older version perhaps?

I assume we're talking about Michele S. Mirman? The infobox has a "Spouse(s)" entry that says, "Paul S. Mirman (m. 1980; died 2014)". There's no source, and as you noted it's not backed up by the body of the article either. Huon (talk) 16:10, 3 August 2019 (UTC)

@Huon:Hi again! I have an obituary for Paul Mirman, but I'm not sure how to add it to the Infobox. I tried, but it came out all wonky with a strange period before the URL :( the link to the obituary is here

What's the best way to go about inserting this reference? Is it OK to use an obituary as a reference? Sorry for all the questions...there are just a lot of rules to publishing on Wiki and I'm trying to understand them all. Thanks for your patience and help. - Joseph

Wikipedia and copyright[edit]

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It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 13:19, 3 August 2019 (UTC) @Diannaa: Thank you! I'm going to track down the photographer who shot those images as well to see if I can get permission to use.

@Diannaa: I did some research and found a photographer that shoots photos for Michele. I spoke with him and he was more than happy to supply a photo of Michele with the appropriate CreativeCommons License. The photo is here: - thanks again for cleaning this up. I'm going to follow your other guidelines and try to improve the entry.