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and the talk page items JarrahTree 02:49, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Reply[edit]

Hey JarrahTree.
Thanks for the welcome, even if it is maybe a year too late! :)
Coincidentally, I was looking at your UserPage just yesterday, as linked through to by Freopedia. I would be much interested in improving the articles in this (I think defunct) project, as I live very close to Fremantle. Are there any top priority articles in it? Is there any images specifically you would like me to get for any of the pages in the project?
Cheers: JoshMuirWikipedia (talk) 02:53, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

reply to above:

  • New users come under the radar often, one thing some eds do is if they dont have subjects or articles on their watchlist, they are unaware of new users, a lot depends on watchlist range - some deliberately keep them small and miss out on a lot
  • Projects are never defunct - they just sometimes smell that way
  • Fredopedia project improvement is always welcomed - have a look around
  • As for images etc - if you are willing to meetup in real life I am in Freo every fortnight or so for the rest of the year, I'll shout you a coffee sometime if you are interested. Otherwise if not an email or off wiki discussion about freo things would be very welcome JarrahTree 03:22, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

beware there are some who would disagree with your wikilinking, viz WP:OVERLINKING and WP:SEAOFBLUE - take care JarrahTree 04:00, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks JarrahTree for your offer of a meetup, but I am just about to start selecting ATAR subjects and am going to be very busy. I'll probably email you sometime in the near future, as I just went through my cupboard and found books called 'Perth and Fremantle Past and Present', 'Swan River Mania', and 'Fremantle Port', so I'm all set for sources for expansion of the project, and will need guidance as to where to focus my efforts. If the project needs anything to do with the Fremantle Council, my best friend's dad is Josh Wilson, so I can get contacts if necessary. Regarding overlinking, I try to only link to specialised things, but I will definitely link a bit less in the future after reading that. Thanks, JoshMuirWikipedia (talk) 04:26, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

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when you email me, I can give you the explanation of work needed for the Fred things... so guidance available - your call when it comes up... thank you very much for your interest and enthusiasm JarrahTree 06:10, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

We have pedants in the Oz project who drop like flies on smelly meat when they see something like:

Bicton Baths was initiated by the local Melville Amateur Swimming Club, a group who had previously utilised the jetty of the quarantine station jetty as a platform. In 1946 the Melville Water Polo Club was founded at the baths, a move which resulted in the Bicton Pool being built in 1979.

Says who? you need WP:RS for most of that... :) JarrahTree 09:25, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Eek!!! That was Trails WA - http://trailswa.com.au/trails/melville-water-riverpark-trail/points-of-interest/view/476850. That article was really annoying to write, as the local council put all this info down there on these boards, and when I asked how I should source them, someone told me I couldn't because to source them I would have to take a picture - pictures which could be photoshopped. JarrahTree (tagging because I found out earlier today how to)
nah, nbd (no big deal) inasmuch as some freaks actually personify a icky byte logarithm and talk about mr and mrs oggle, I have a friend called mr or mrs trove - a much more hussle-able aggregator who give you, dadah... http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/result?q=bicton+baths - therein lies things that are quotable... simply find the wikipedia cite by going to info/details and then "BATHS FOR BICTON". Sunday Times (Perth) (1842). Western Australia. 14 May 1933. p. 8 (First Section). Retrieved 14 July 2016 – via National Library of Australia. it all shows up - if you want to appease others, aths for icton should lower case... JarrahTree 09:55, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Brilliant, will 100% use that as a source in the future. Any others I should know about? JoshMuirWikipedia (talk) 10:50, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
sorry real life is stuffing up a possible comprehendable reply completely, some other time JarrahTree 10:52, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Sure, I might email you tomorrow arvo, as I am going into Freo to take some photos in the morning (and to test out my bike I got 1 hour ago for my birthday!) JoshMuirWikipedia (talk) 11:50, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
happy birthday. I am not in freo for a fortnight at this stage. JarrahTree 13:29, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
Hello JarrahTree, what is your email so I can contact you regarding Freopedia? JoshMuirWikipedia (talk) 06:27, 17 July 2016 (UTC)

That was a mistake![edit]

I was trying to do the same edit. Thanks for fixing.JSFarman (talk) 13:11, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

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WP:3RR and vandalism[edit]

Just wanted to point this out since I saw your post at WP:AN. Obvious vandalism is one of the few exceptions to the three revert rule. Just make sure you point out the reason for your revert in your edit summary (i.e., "reverting vandalism"), and make sure that it qualifies under the definition of vandalism. TimothyJosephWood 13:01, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

Also, you can hit 3RR (Make 3 reverts), you just can't make more than 3 reverts. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 15:17, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

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Use of columns in appendices[edit]

I won't take issue with your frequent use of columns in see also sections, as the threshhold of length at which such a change is advisable is highly subjective. But I will point out that the documentation for {{commons category}} specifically states that it should not be used in sections that are in columns, with some exceptions, and I think this advice should be applied to {{portal}} as well. Ibadibam (talk) 23:22, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Cheers for that JoshMuirWikipedia (talk) 08:55, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

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Point Walter[edit]

Does not require extra categories - please see WP:Categorization if you need extra background - or ask if need be - the point being parent categories added on english wikipedia are discouraged JarrahTree 07:44, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for the honour of being the first stop for queries about your effort at GA - I appreciate your deferral to me - however Good Articles are not part of my edit history or expertise of the last 10 years - I am a maintenance editor - talk pages and categories - and also assessment of various subject area articles (amongst starting stubs).

Best is that you need to find a currently active australian editor (with a history of GA badges on their user page to guide you) - very few in the Australian project would I recommend, but that is a very long story...

That is not to say I will not respond to your effort on my talk page... I am just suggesting a wider sweep for opinion is always worth exploring.

The other thing is to do a check of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:GA-Class_Australia_articles
It is over - represented by certain subject areas -
Then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:GA-Class_Western_Australia_articles
Have a look at edit histories - see who seem to be the eds who do the work on them, and then work out whether they are still active
User:Casliber I would personally recommend if he has the spare time to check...
For local context User:Gnangarra if he as the time available
For proof reading and nuts and bolts grammar and format User:Mitch Ames

Let me know how you go down the road of consulting others first. I wont be able to get to read your message and attend to it in detail for a day or two. JarrahTree 14:50, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply JarrahTree,
I'm back to school tomorrow and I'll be heading into my WACE exams very soon, so unfortunately, it'll be a month and a half before I can ask anyone, so I made some alterations to the article, trying to solve some of the issues I raised, put in some new photos I took this morning, and put it up for good article nomination. If it hasn't been reviewed in 1.5 months, (quite likely with the backlog), I'll be able to contact the recommended editors.
Thanks for the recommendations - JoshMuirWikipedia (talk) 10:56, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

As they say break a leg - hope it all goes well - best of luck and success in your exams!! JarrahTree 10:58, 9 October 2017 (UTC)


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Your GA nomination of Point Walter[edit]

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Pinging you that I have some comments over on the review page and a decision regarding how you would like to proceed with copyediting. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:06, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Point Walter[edit]

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Pease dont take my challenges as criticism - they are meant as challenges to find more refs - if it is about a feature in the river - and you want to get to GA - then there are missing items - if you want leads to them, I would be only too pleased to offer some clues JarrahTree 09:00, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
JarrahTree I'm sorry if calling a challenge a criticism seemed abrasive, I appreciate what you're doing and I didn't mean to call it that in a bad way. I would love to get some pointers on what I can do to get it to GA and what's missing in the article. JoshMuirWikipedia (talk) 09:08, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
bah dont apologise to me - I am just a cranky old fart from the hills
George - Seddon, George (1970), Swan River landscapes, University of Western Australia Press, ISBN 978-0-85564-043-9 - think george says something about the bar or the point -
Ernest - Brearley, Anne; Ernest Hodgkin Trust for Estuary Education and Research; National Trust of Australia (W.A.); University of Western Australia Press (2005), Ernest Hodgkin's Swanland : estuaries and coastal lagoons of South-western Australia, University of Western Australia Press for the Ernest Hodgkin Trust for Estuary Education and Research and National Trust of Australia (WA), ISBN 978-1-920694-38-8
thing is tom riggert and ernest hodgkin and others did stuff on the easturine things - highly likely there are more recent things via internal reports from the decimated swan river trust
birmingham - now here's a complex pun difficult to explain easily - Birmingham - messing about in ernest (!) - havent got the ref yet
Burningham, Nick (2003), Messing about in earnest, Fremantle Arts Centre Press, ISBN 978-1-920731-25-0
even if you briefly mention the issues - the old stuff like Symposium on the Swan-Canning River Estuarine System (1986 : Perth, W.A.); John, Jacob; Western Australia. Waterways Commission; Curtin University of Technology. Environmental Studies Group (1987), The Swan River estuary ecology and management : proceedings of a Symposium on the Swan-Canning River Estuarine System, Western Australia, held at the Curtin University of Technology, Perth, Western Australia on 10-11th October 1986, Environmental Studies Group, Curtin University of Technology, ISBN 978-0-909848-75-0 - they dropped whole forrests in the 80s and 90s agonising over the river

so dont worry - dont panic - even just cursory mention of the estuarine nature of the river at that point needs a section imho. others might think otherwise... JarrahTree 09:24, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

@JarrahTree: Thanks a bunch, I'll head down to slwa tomorrow or sunday to check those books out. I have checked out the Swan River Trust before and there was nothing on Point Walter. Would you have an example of an article which has a reference to this 'estuarine nature of the river' as I'm not sure how a sub-section could be constructed out of it. JoshMuirWikipedia (talk) 09:35, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
yeah well - there might not be much mention of point walter directly or the sandbar - but
to answer your estuarine features
The saline environment of the lower reaches of the river do offer a range of flora and fauna you wont find in the upper reaches
there might be estuarine creatures and plants that have their habitat between blackwall reach and melville water for example
I have never seen easy to find material on the swan river shark but suspect its home in the area
tidal affected aspects of estuaries can also have a range of dynamics on the sandbar
seasonal flooding from them damn hills might infuse more fresh as far as the lower estuary due to the volume
the ph and saline changes due to the above (tide vs flood) might have affect on what likes the area - this might be reflected in noongar hunting stories of the area
the freo 'bar' that got blown up and removed may have a similarity to the point walter bar in noongar stories (or not)
oops - to answer your question above (sorry I do tend to digress) - hodgkin or seddon might well have content about swan estuarine features - the saline tendency does affect the animals and plants found either in the river or close to it. JarrahTree 10:11, 25 May 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Point Walter/GA1 - 2nd opinion[edit]

Hi. Could you check through Point Walter and let me know if you are happy with the various changes. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 19:13, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Congratulations on the GA pass. It is clear that a lot of hard work has gone into this. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:12, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

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Misconceptions[edit]

Are you still interested in adding misconceptions from other wikis to List of common misconceptions? If not, could you at least tell me how you found them, so I could try? Benjamin (talk) 09:52, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

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