User talk:JulianArbi

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Welcome![edit]

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June 2012[edit]

Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Andrea Hirata, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear constructive and has been reverted. Please make use of the sandbox if you'd like to experiment with test edits. Thank you.  -- WikHead (talk) 17:31, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

July 2012[edit]

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Andrea Hirata. When removing content, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the content has been restored, as you can see from the page history. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:03, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Please do not add commentary or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Andrea Hirata. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:18, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did at Andrea Hirata, you may be blocked from editing. Byron Shire News is certainly not a strong enough source for the stuff you're using it for. Also, please learn referencing.  — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:50, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

This is your last warning; the next time you disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Andrea Hirata with this edit, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. ‴ Teles «Talk ˱@ L C S˲» 06:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Kelucuan Gila?[edit]

The byron bay newspaper you cite is hardly a WP:RS as to whether anyone is 'great' or otherwise, let alone Indonesia - expect to be blocked - or try to edit something else rather than the rubbish you are putting up SatuSuro 06:59, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

You have been blocked temporarily from editing for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons why you should be unblocked, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first.

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Materialscientist (talk) 07:40, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Re: Email[edit]

You are free to add information (so long as it is reliably sourced) once the block is lifted, but you must adhere to a neutral point of view. The personal information has already been removed from the article, as our policy on the biographies of living people allows. I would be glad to work with Mr. Hirata if he or his team want to provide reliable, independent sources in either English or Indonesian, but Wikipedia is not a means of advertising; negative information, if important and pertinent to the subject, should be included as well. Compare the articles on his contemporaries Clara Ng and Ucu Agustin, for example. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:08, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

  • As a side note, I'd like to thank Mr. Hirata and his team for donating the photograph. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:09, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
  • The name bit could be trimmed, but not entirely eliminated. I'm a little tired from expanding the article on Albertus Soegijapranata, so I'll take a while to look at those links you sent me.
Byron News may be reliable, but not for what you're using it for (and certainly not if you omit the "living" qualifier, as then he'd be competing against writers like the Nobel-nominated Pramoedya Ananta Toer, which...). That he has been described as a good novelist should be shown as an opinion, by explicitly marking it as such, or through awards he has won (referenced, of course); for that second one, you'd have to say that he won such-and-such award. For example, in the article on the film Ruma Maida, statements like "cleverly weaving the plot into Indonesia's independence struggle" are cited as a specific person's opinion, and the Citra Award nominations are also referenced. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:17, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Looked through the sources. No comment on the Brazilian one (don't speak Portuguese). Have never seen a copy of Dewi magazine, so I cannot comment on its quality/reliability. For stuff like this I'd rather avoid KapanLagi, because (although I think it's probably reliable) convincing others may be overly difficult. Kompas, The Jakarta Post, and The Jakarta Globe are great, and if there is a good, in-depth interview (maybe Tempo has one, like they did with Clara; Mr. Hirata isn't an actor/actress, so I doubt Tabloid Nova has anything) that would be great. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 11:47, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
  • Information about the publisher outside of its name would be out of scope (we try to focus on the subject, and only provide what context is necessary to better understand the subject; readers who wish to learn more about FSG can click on the link). I've added that FSG was a publisher and a bit more. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 14:58, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
  • I haven't, no. I generally don't read pop novels in the original Indonesian unless I personally know the author (for example, I bought the English translation of Land of 5 Towers, but read Belenggu and Sitti Nurbaya in the original). Glad Mr. Hirata is happy with the updates, once the block is lifted you should be able to update on your own, but please remember to cite sources and keep a neutral point of view. I could clean up referencing format issues. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:11, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
Also, you can reply here. I have the page watchlisted, so I'll probably see any reply. Your block does not extend to your own talk page. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:12, 4 July 2012 (UTC)