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Welcome!

Hello, Junsun, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{helpme}} before the question. Again, welcome! --Ronz (talk) 17:10, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Possible conflict of interest[edit]

Junsun, Welcome to Wikipedia. I already strongly suspect that you have a conflict of interest regarding the book "The Myopia Myth" since all your edits refer to that book or its website. Please be aware that Wikipedia is not a promotional tool for books or eyecare services. You are already guilty of wholesale cutting and pasting, use of unreliable or self-published sources, edits that are poorly referenced and therefore constitute original research and these behaviours are not really in the spirit of Wikipedia. I suggest you familiarise yourself with Wikipedia before making such large scale changes. Famousdog (talk) 17:00, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:

  1. editing or creating articles related to you, your organization, or its competitors, as well as projects and products they are involved with;
  2. participating in deletion discussions about articles related to your organization or its competitors;
  3. linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam); and,
  4. avoid breaching relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, verifiability of information, and autobiographies.

For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for businesses. For more details about what, exactly, constitutes a conflict of interest, please see our conflict of interest guidelines. Thank you. --Ronz (talk) 17:09, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to reassure you that I see nothing in the article which warrants the allegation of conflict of interest. If you are personally a friend or colleague or employee of Donald Rehm, or have any financial stake in his organization, then you have indeed transgressed, and read no further here. If, on the other hand, as I presume, you are merely an enthusiastic believer in his wisdom, this does not infringe WP:COI.
There are, however, other more genuine, issues which they have raised, specifically
    • Has The Myopia Myth attracted enough attention to be notable?
    • Are there enough independent sources of information on it?
I'm sure that someone will very shortly propose the article's deletion. These are the questions you must be prepared to answer. SamuelTheGhost (talk) 18:53, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Getting started[edit]

Here are a few helpful links to get you familiar with what's required to write an article like Myopia Myth without having it deleted or otherwise heavily disputed: User:WLU/Generic_sandbox, WP:BK, WP:COI, WP:OR, WP:NPOV --Ronz (talk) 17:42, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the note. I think it would be best if the current article were deleted and you started again with some help. I'd start by looking for independent, reliable sources that you could use, and then decide what topic those sources could best be used to build an article around. Besides the problem of having but one such source currently, the current article tries to discuss the book, the author, his theories, and the controversy around those theories. Unless you can find a large number of supporting sources, a more focused topic would be better. --Ronz (talk) 18:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

WP:V and WP:CITE as well. --Ronz (talk) 21:35, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent edits[edit]

Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you should sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. If you can't type the tilde character, you should click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you! --SineBot (talk) 19:54, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia, and thank you for your contributions. One of the core policies of Wikipedia is that articles should always be written from a neutral point of view. A contribution you made to Myopia Myth appears to carry a non-neutral point of view, and your edit may have been changed or reverted to correct the problem. Please remember to observe our core policies. Thank you. --Ronz (talk) 22:33, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ronz Thanks for the content forking article. In this article, I found that "Any daughter article that deals with opinions about the subject of parent article should include both positive and negative opinions, ". Are you saying that as long as I give the opposing sides (for and against) the theory that myopia be caused by activities that requires excessive close focusing that my article will be ok? Is there a major area you still want me to improve on before you will consider removing some of the attention flags? --Junsun (talk) 22:52, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm going to wait to see what others think of the article before I start a deletion discussion.
Just presenting opposing sides is not enough to meet WP:NPOV. See WP:NPOVFAQ and WP:FRINGE for further information.
The proper way to add information about Rehm's theories to Wikipedia is to expand Myopia, which I notice needs a great deal of work, especially in regard to WP:NPOV. --Ronz (talk) 23:40, 22 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Myopia Myth[edit]

An article that you have been involved in editing, Myopia Myth, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Myopia Myth. Thank you. Ronz (talk) 18:53, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

An article you created maybe deleted soon: Tools which can help you[edit]

The article you created: Myopia Myth may be deleted from Wikipedia.

There is an ongoing debate about whether your article should be deleted here:

The faster you respond on this page, the better chance the article you created can be saved.

Finding sources which mention the topic of your article is the very best way to avoid an article being deleted {{Findsources3}}:

Find sources for Myopia Myth: google news recent, google news old, google books, google scholar, NYT recent, NYT old, a9, msbooks, msacademic ...You can then cite these results in the Article for deletion discussion.

Also, there are several tools and helpful editors on Wikipedia who can help you:

1. List the page on Article Rescue Squadron. You can get help listing your page on the Article Rescue Squadron talk page.
2. At any time, you can ask any administrator to move your article to a special page. (Called userfication)
3. You can request a mentor to help explain all of the complex rules that editors use to get a page deleted: Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User. But don't wait for a mentor to respond to you before responding on the article for deletion page.
4. When trying to delete a page, veteran editors love to use a lot of rule acronyms. Don't let these acronyms intimidate you. Here is a list of acronyms you can use yourself: WP:Deletion debate acronyms which may support the page you created being kept.


If your page is deleted, you also have many options available. Good luck! Ikip (talk) 19:49, 23 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

TfD nomination of Template:911ct supporters[edit]

Template:911ct supporters has been nominated for deletion by Ice Cold Beer. As this TfD nomination includes objections to the same list of people that is currently in use in Template:911ct, I am inviting you to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. (I am sending this message to you as a current or former editor of Zeitgeist, The Movie, following the guideline on multiple messages.) Regards —  Cs32en  11:09, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We cannot use a film as a source for it's description, nor can we use Alex's own words. We need a separate reliable source, or the descriptions must go, as they are descriptions of living people. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 00:06, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Light bulbs in popular culture[edit]

If you want to create content on that topic consider:

  • Creating a user space page to create and refine the content, and issue an invitation on the talk page of the main article for people to visit and comment and contribute. Then you can get it to a point where there is consensus on the content before putting it in the article, and it won't get reverted

and/or

  • Creating a separate article on the topic.

Continuing to engage in edit warring over it is unlikely to be productive. If you have questions about how to do either of those, please ask on my talk page. Ccrrccrr (talk) 21:52, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You asked (on my talk) for constructive criticism of the section.
==Symbolism of Light Bulbs==
Light bulb has become a classic symbol of human ingenuity. This is greatly due to it being Thomas Edison's best know innovation and the great advances it enabled for our lifestyle during a period when kerosene lamps are sooty and a fire hazard.
Light bulb's symbolisms are probably most commonly found in United States where it was made practical by Edison.
Metaphors related to the light bulb includes:
  • "Light up": Cheerfulness and outgoing personality
  • "Bright idea": An "Eureka" moment when an idea is born.
  • "Beacon of light/hope": Hope and justice is cast widely across an area by one individual, idea or object.
  • "Burned out": Physical fatigue or exhaustion of new ideas after an extended period of mental or physical exertion.
===Examples in Popular Culture===
In Daughtry's single, What About Now, light bulb was used as a simple of hope and justice for humanity. The video features a light bulb that has not yet burned out, which symbolizes that it's not too late to make a difference.
TED (conference), an organization dedicated to sharing of ideas and famous for hosting lectures by prominent figures including Bill Clinton, Bono and Bill Gates uses a computer generated light bulb shaped globe to lead into some of it's earlier online Youtube videos.
"In popular culture" sections are controversial in general. At the very least, any entry would need to be notable, and notable in the context of the article. I don't think either of your entries meet that test. They'd also need to be verifiable. Both are probably easily verified to be true, but verifying notability would be much harder and would require references. See Wikipedia:"In_popular_culture"_articles#List_content for more on this topic.
The symbolism section has some writing errors. For example, it should read "The light bulb." Secondly, although it is common knowledge that it symbolizes ingenuity, there could be various theories as to why it has come to mean that. Your theory sounds plausible, but if it's your theory, it's WP:OR and isn't appropriate. If it's not your OR theory, it would need a citation to be verifiable. The list of metaphors does not seem to be content that belongs here--it seems more appropriate for a dictionary. Again, issues also include verifiability, notability in general and notability to this article. Also, I think you might mean "lighten up", but I'm not sure the definition quite matches either. Ccrrccrr (talk) 23:45, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

Hello, Junsun. You have new messages at Nja247's talk page.
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Nja247 11:57, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Air Canada[edit]

Hi, Junsun! http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/investor/contacts.html uses "Saint-Laurent" instead of Dorval. From my understanding the HQ is actually in Saint-Laurent. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:39, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This Google maps point shows where the AC HQ is... WhisperToMe (talk) 19:47, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And based on this map http://saintlaurent.ville.montreal.qc.ca/Fr/Intro/Cartes/Region/ab11e5b4-ccb1-430e-9a7c-598d63c7480b.gif , the HQ is in Saint-Laurent, Montreal. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:48, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Also here is a map of Dorval City: "Detailed Map of Dorval." City of Dorval. Retrieved on November 4, 2010. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:39, 4 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

ITN credit[edit]

ThaddeusB (talk) 20:17, 14 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]