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  • Dismembering lāhui : a history of the Hawaiian nation to 1887
  • Palaces and forts of the Hawaiian kingdom: from thatch to American Florentine
  • The journal of Prince Alexander Liholiho; the voyages made to the United States, England and France in 1849-1850.
  • The Chiefs' Children school, a record compiled from the diary and letters of Amos Starr Cooke and Juliette Montague Cooke, by their granddaughter Mary Atherton Richards.
  • News from Molokai : letters between Peter Kaeo & Queen Emma, 1873-1876
  • Palaces and forts of the Hawaiian kingdom:from thatch to American Florentine
  • Emma : Hawaiʻiʼs remarkable queen : a biography
  • Fragments of Hawaiian history
  • Ruling chiefs of Hawaii
  • Waikīkī, 100 B.C. to 1900 A.D. : an untold story
  • A Guide to old Kona
  • The rise and fall of the Hawaiian Kingdom : a pictorial history
  • The arts of kingship : Hawaiian art and national culture of the Kalākaua era
  • Who owns the Crown lands of Hawaii?
  • Emma Naea Rooke (1836-1885), beloved queen of Hawaii
  • The royal lineages of Hawaiʻi
  • Elizabeth Wood-Ellem (1999). Queen Sālote of Tonga: the story of an era, 1900-1965. Auckland, N.Z.: Auckland University Press. ISBN 978-1-86940-205-1. OCLC 262293605. 
  • To steal a kingdom
  • Tahitiens: répertoire biographique de la Polynésie française
  • Ancient Tahiti (Tahiti aux temps anciens) by Teuira Henry
  • The Letters of Henry Adams: Volumes 1-3
  • Memoir of Arii Taimai E Marama of Eimeo, Teriirere of Tooarai, Teriinui of Tahiti
  • Memoirs of Marau Taaroa, last queen of Tahiti

Hello. Welcome to my talk page. I don't want to archive. Anything of great import can be found in the history. I'll probably delete pass 10 entries. KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:29, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

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Royal Coat of Arms of Hawaii request[edit]

Dear Kavebear,

Firstly I would like to apologize for the delay, there is absolutely no excuse for making you wait for so long without replying to your request. Secondly I will be uploading the other version (the one depicted on the gates of the palace) very soon. If I made a mistake or if you want anything altered please feel free to leave me a message, Sorry again. Regards, Sodacan (talk) 18:15, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks a whole lot. This coat of arm is perfect.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:31, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Do you have anymore information on the coat of arms? if there are enough sources we could start: Royal Coat of Arms of Hawaii, that would be awesome. Sodacan (talk) 18:38, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Plenty but I don't have the currently with all my schoolwork.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:41, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
No problem, completely understand! I know only a little bit about Hawaiian history, did not know the supporters on either side were actual historical figures, and twins for that matter. Just thought that they were ordinary Koa warriors. Sodacan (talk) 18:47, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
The stripes on the lower right part of the shield seems to be different. It is suppose to end in blue like this one with nine stripes there and eight on the top left. Nine or ten stripes still disagrees with all the rest of the coats of arms. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:11, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Fixed. Sodacan (talk) 19:19, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Also if you are ever feeling like you want to do some more there are different versions of this coat of arms on the online Iolani Palace collection.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:16, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Sure, I am drawing this version, which is also the one on the palace gates, should be finished soon. Sodacan (talk) 19:23, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Okay. The one on palace invitation is the one I had more in mind; this or this. It's Kalakaua's much more imperial and grandiose version.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:46, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
I will make that one instead. Sodacan (talk) 02:56, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
Uploaded the second one, the grand Kalakaua coat of arms is coming soon. Question, I am assuming that the order on this coat of arms is the Order of Kamehameha I?. Sodacan (talk) 16:07, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Thanks it looks great. Yes, it is the order of Kamehameha I, Knight Grand Cross, seen here. Also do consider both link when creating it, I would trust the Iolani Palace this link also.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:52, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Could you improve these two images File:Crown of Hawaii.svg and File:Princess Kaiulani Flag (1875-1899).svg by adding your version of the crown and coat of arms to it? And could you please touch up the drawing of the cronw on File:Kuhina Nui flag.svg? Thanks.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:52, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Also one last thing, what is your opinion on the skin tone? --KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:13, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
I will upload a new version of the crown and those flags. As for the skin tone, I don't really have an opinion, I have made it (in my view at least) the most 'realistic' it could be. So it's probably better if you just give me some advice instead! the colours are easily changed so it's not a big deal if you wanted it altered. Also I now have a copy of: 'Hawaii's great seal and coat of arms' by Meiric K. Dutton, 1960, so I might start expanding on the Seal of Hawaii soon. Sodacan (talk) 03:00, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
Last one done! Sodacan (talk) 12:52, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

Maputeoa, Rikitea, St. Michael's Cathedral, Rikitea has been nominated for Did You Know[edit]

Attributs du service de table[edit]

The phrase doesn't make much sense without more context. It could mean something like "properties of the tableware of the Gambier king and of the mission". Attribut can also mean "symbolic sign", so it could refer to some sort of marking on the dishes and other pieces that indicate they belong to the king or to the mission. --Xuxl (talk) 17:58, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Now that I've seen your link, the second explanation is the right one. The two designs are those used on the king and mission's tableware to identify them. See for example this Unites States presidential table ware with the seal in the middle [1]. --Xuxl (talk) 06:07, 26 June 2015 (UTC)


"Mise au blanc" is not a common expression anymore, but it could have been in the 19th century. It could literally mean that she started wearing white 7 years before, but I don't know what significance this would have. The rest of the paragraph makes it sound that this about wearing white, because "everyone wanted to wear white at her funeral even though black was the usual mourning color". There's a reference to her father having the same disease as the princess, so it may also mean that she was hospitalized for seven years (white is a color often associated with hospitals). --Xuxl (talk) 18:52, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:56, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Maputeoa mourut le 23 juin 1857 laissant 5 enfants dont l'aîné Joseph n'avait que 10 ans. Une régence fut exercée par Marie-Eudoxie, la femme de Maputeoa, jusqu'à sa mort en 1869. Il ne restait alors que deux filles et le gouvernement resta pratiquement aux mains de la Mission. Translation: Maputeoa died on June 23, 1857, leaving 5 children, with the eldest Joseph being only 10 years old. The regency was exercised by Marie-Eudoxie, Maputeoa's wife, until her death in 1869. There remained only two daughters and the government was left almost entirely at the hands of the Mission (i.e., the Mission practically ran the government by itself). --Xuxl (talk) 06:03, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks. I have found a few sources talking more about the situation. --KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:06, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

Mangareva sketches follow-up[edit]

Hi Kavebear, a PS to my answer on the Reference Desk for your purposes of dating the portraits. I read a bit more of Captain Dumont d'Urville's book. In the sketch, the man on the right, Mabou Kouike, is not mentioned in the book at all. The man on the left, Mapouteoa (sometimes spelled Mapou-teoa) and his uncle are first met by Dumont D'Urville on Aug 6, 1838. (p. 151) Their descriptions match the sketches: Mapou-teoa as wearing "a blue riding coat, with shirt, trousers and hat" and his uncle as 190 cm tall and "wearing only a shirt." (talk) 12:07, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you so much! --KAVEBEAR (talk) 15:25, 7 July 2015 (UTC)


Hi there! Thank you for your recent edits to Fiji-related articles. There are huge gaps in the information available on Fiji, so your work is very much appreciated. I hope you stay and get stuck in:-)

Just in case you haven't noticed, there an Index of Fiji-related articles. Many if not most of the articles listed there are incomplete, so we need all hands on deck. You can also join WP:Wikiproject Fiji if you like.

Once again, welcome to the team! David Cannon (talk) 07:46, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Hello, I don't know too much about this region unfortunately. Although, I've been adding photographs, relevant historic sources, and historic images on the topic of their chiefs.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 19:28, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Hook needs a tweak[edit]

Hi. The original hook in Template:Did you know nominations/I-sala needs a fix (it says "its shape derived from the of the bushy hair"). I can think of several way that could be done, so, rather than guess which one you had in mind, I'll let you take care of it. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 10:11, 19 July 2015 (UTC)

@Mandarax: Which one would you suggest? I'm unsure.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 12:03, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
Well, when I left the above note, I had only looked at the hook. Now that I've read the article, I see a problem with the first two hooks. Both of them say that it "resembled a turban", but the first sentence of the article says it is a turban. It goes on to say that it's "similar to a turban", but then the Williams quote refers to it as a turban. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 22:26, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
The modern interpretation (Cochrane and Quanchi) is that it is only similar to a turban. Williams is a 19th-century description of the custom.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 22:42, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
I see that you've edited the first sentence to reflect that, and have also edited the nomination. Thanks, and good luck with your DYK. MANdARAX  XAЯAbИAM 01:06, 20 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK Nomination[edit]

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of I-sala at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Alex2006 (talk) 10:20, 21 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Maputeoa[edit]

Materialscientist (talk) 00:52, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Cyprien Liausu[edit]

The two requested translations are on my talk page. Glad to be of help. --Xuxl (talk) 09:53, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Royal family picture:

The Huahine royal family, circa 1890. It is possible to identify the following adults, from left to right: the first woman [holding a child] would be Tetuamarama Teuruarii, spouse of Marama Teuruarii; the second woman [in front of whom a boy is standing] would be Tetuanuimarama, spouse of Ariimate Teururai; next to her, their mother-in-law, Queen Teha'apapa II; in the back row, to the left, Ariimate Teururai [Tamatoa VI], and, to his right [bearded], Marama Teururai."

--Xuxl (talk) 09:35, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Cyprien Liausu[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 20:57, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Joseph Gregorio II[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:26, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Maria Eutokia Toaputeitou[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:26, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for I-sala[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:31, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Chrysostome Liausu[edit]

Materialscientist (talk) 11:56, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Nancy Sumner[edit]

Gatoclass (talk) 08:42, 26 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Henry Hoolulu Pitman[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:11, 27 August 2015 (UTC)


Where is the policy which states this, please? GiantSnowman 12:20, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Many thanks for the link - but I again state that I believe the article title should contain the okina, and subsequently so should the article body. GiantSnowman 18:51, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS - let's see how the Pitman RM plays out. GiantSnowman 15:29, 28 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for J. R. Kealoha[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 21:27, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Elizabeth Keawepoʻoʻole Sumner[edit]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 12:02, 4 September 2015 (UTC)

DYK for William Keolaloa Sumner[edit]

 — Chris Woodrich (talk) 03:36, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

User:KAVEBEAR/Zorobabela Kaauwai ‎[edit]

Greetings! Would you mind if I merged User:KAVEBEAR/Zorobabela Kaauwai into Draft:Zorobabela Kaauwai, created for Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/United States state supreme court justices? Cheers! bd2412 T 14:09, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of J. R. Kealoha[edit]

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Your GA nomination of Henry Hoʻolulu Pitman[edit]

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Eliza Meek[edit]

  • Hi KAVEBEAR, about the request for clarification on the Eliza Meek article; what is a "half-interest in property"? You didn't clarify that and removed a hidden text comment of mine to editors watching the page, which would not have been noticed by readers but would have helped clarify something obscure in the article. I also fail to see how it is the "wrong newspaper" since the sentences are both from its pages (almost word for word, but that's a different problem). Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 02:08, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Found the correct newspaper link, didn't check the first link before posting *facepalm*: Honolulu Star-Bulletin. I will put this link in so that readers are not confused. Cheers, Drcrazy102 (talk) 02:14, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

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James Wood Bush[edit]