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You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.

Worldbruce (talk) 15:01, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

Notes to self - Guild Chapel, Stratford-upon-Avon[edit]

  • JB award for wall paintings [1].
  • Kendal’s infobox

Gwin poeth sbeislyd i chi ...[edit]

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... gan yr hen Gymro; rwy'n gobeithio eich bod wedi cael gwyliau Nadolig gwych ac rwy'n dymuno 2019 heddychlon i chi!
That is Welsh and translates to:
Spicy hot wine for you from the old Welshman; I hope you have had a great Christmas holiday and I wish you a peaceful 2019!
Thank you for your excellent work on the 'pedia.

Sincerely, Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 13:24, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
Gareth, very kind and much appreciated. All best wishes to you and yours for 2019. KJP1 (talk) 07:21, 2 January 2019 (UTC)


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Die Zeit, die Tag und Jahre macht

Happy 2019 -

begin it with music and memories

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

And all best wishes to you, Gerda. KJP1 (talk) 07:22, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you! Please check out "Happy" once more, for a smile, and sharing (a Nobel Peace Prize), and resolutions. I wanted that for 1 January, but then wasn't sad about having our music pictured instead. Not too late for resolutions, New Year or not. DYK that he probably kept me on Wikipedia, back in 2012? By the line (which brought him to my attention, and earned the first precious in br'erly style) that I added to my editnotice, in fond memory? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:26, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

2018 Year in Review[edit]

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For your work on St Donat's Castle you are hereby awarded the WikiChevrons. Congrats! TomStar81 (Talk) 19:34, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
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For your work on St Donat's Castle you are hereby awarded The Epic Barnstar. Congrats! TomStar81 (Talk) 19:34, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Marvellous - thank you so much. And so pleased to see that Tim riley only got a half-star! KJP1 (talk) 15:43, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Cheek! Look out for a glass eye in your beer next Wednesday. Tim riley talk 16:04, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Reviewer barnstar[edit]

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For your review of Schinas's article. Thank you Cinadon36 (talk) 15:18, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
Thank you - it was a pleasure and all the very best with the article. KJP1 (talk) 15:43, 5 January 2019 (UTC)

Have another[edit]

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For your work on Sissinghurst Castle Garden you are hereby awarded The Epic Barnstar. Congrats! I have left some thoughts on my page, under your recent message. Anna (talk) 22:36, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Anna Roy, Tryptofish - Anna, many thanks indeed. Some great suggestions! I think you're right re. the influence of Long Barn and I'll work out how to weave this in. I'll ask my collaborator, who's the one who actually knows about plants, to see whether Rosa ‘Souvenir du Docteur Jamain’ can get a mention, The quote's a cracker - just need to find where it comes from. I'll let you know how we get on with the other points, all very valid. You're quite right - it's been a great collaboration; much my favourite way to approach an FAC. And thanks for the barn star. You don't contribute at FAC? Absolutely understand, but so very glad you liked the article. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 23:08, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
I find GA and FACs can get all very political (small p) so I tend to stay out these days. It's lovely to see WP working collaboratively. As it should be. I got tired of the fighting culture. All best wishes. Anna (talk) 23:34, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
The quote is here. Anna (talk) 23:42, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
And let me add how much I too am enjoying the collaboration! As for that rose, Tony Lord appears never to mention that variety, as it's not in the index. Graham Stuart Thomas mentions it twice, both times briefly. On p. 22, he has a single sentence about a trip to Sissinghurst in 1947, where he saw 'Sissinghurst Castle' (already covered on the page) and "the rare purple Hybrid Perpetual 'Souvenir du Docteur Jamain'". On p. 36, he has a list of hybrid perpetual roses, and includes that variety in the list. There is a blog (not a reliable source) that names the nursery where she found it and suggests that Graham Thomas identified the variety for Vita. That doesn't give me much to work with. The quote is a good one, so maybe we could do something with that? --Tryptofish (talk) 23:45, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
The rose isn't a vital point, it's just often hailed as her favourite. The quote is sourced above. Anna (talk) 23:57, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
Yes, I'm thinking it might be best to treat this as being about "collecting" plants, as opposed to about that particular rose variety. I don't think we should try to fit in another quote box. But in the Rose Garden section, we describe how she obtained roses from other rose growers. We could add a sentence about how she got this rose, and put the quote in a footnote. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:02, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
I think this might be the original source, as it is written by Vita herself: [2]. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:06, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Written by her, quoted by Raven, actually. And we already cite the book, so it's Raven 2014, p. 200. --Tryptofish (talk) 00:12, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

I was also reflecting that SCG is a site of pilgrimage for lesbians internationally - a place of great significance given Vita's life, writing and garden creation. It will be even more so with the film set for UK release at some point this year. Adam Nicolson famously bemoaned "rivers of lesbians coming through that gate.” [3]. And yes, it is so. Anna (talk) 14:29, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

I have not very good vision, which is the main reason I stopped editing with WP some years back. So I'm going to dip in and out of the article dev, if that's ok. I've currently rather overdone it a bit. The article is more definitive than most books on the subject, and considerably better written, so congrats again. All best wishes for you weekend. Anna (talk) 23:28, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
That's very kind . You should, of course, contribute in whichever way works for you. Your input to date has been invaluable and we're very grateful but wouldn't want you to put your eyes under any strain at all. I don't generally like to assess FAC progress for fear of jinxing it!, but I think this one's going pretty well to date. With thanks and all best wishes. KJP1 (talk) 13:40, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
  • It just got promoted to FA! Congratulations (to us both, I guess)! Our collaboration has been a real pleasure! --Tryptofish (talk) 00:00, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Congratulations on this lovely article. I'm sorry I wasn't around to help. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 07:47, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
  • exactly same ;) - happy Valentine! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:50, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
DisillusionedBitterAndKnackered, Gerda Arendt - that's very kind of you both. It was another hugely enjoyable collaborative effort and I think the result does a beautiful place some justice. All the very best. KJP1 (talk) 16:22, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Many congratulations to all who contributed. It is a credit to WP. Anna (talk) 16:28, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Naming conventions for articles about churches[edit]

Afternoon KJP. I forgot to "ping" you in my response to your question on the help desk at Wikipedia:Help _desk#Naming conventions for articles about churches. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 13:35, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Hassocks5489 - good to hear from you. Replied at the Helpdesk. KJP1 (talk) 13:46, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

February 2019[edit]

Information icon Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk: Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing.
Note: You can't really expect to make a serious case against their behaviour when you call them an "idiot" in a section title on their talk page about said compaint. Just sayin'...
- wolf 18:53, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Believe me, this is a user you want to deter. KJP1 (talk) 18:59, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
Oh I hear ya, take a look at some of my comments to him on his talk from just this past December, in the collapsed section. I'm just saying, if you want admins looking at his behaviour, you don't want them looking at yours as well. Or have him saying; "Wah! But look at what KJP1 did!". You might want to quietly change that section title... JMHO - wolf 19:33, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
Thewolfchild - And I hear you and it’s good advice. But that guy. Such a time sink, and never anything worthwhile. KJP1 (talk) 20:05, 5 February 2019 (UTC)

Elizabeth Almshouses, Worthing[edit]

While checking the Millennium Encyclopaedia of Worthing for something entirely unrelated, I remembered to look these up, and found some useful additional info. As the weather gradually improves I'll try to get a chance to walk down that way to work and take a better picture. Also, I think the new edition of Pevsner specifically covering West Sussex is due out this year (May/June?); if they are now mentioned I will update accordingly. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 20:57, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Hassocks5489 - many thanks, the recent history is great. Are they presently unoccupied? When you write “Burges intended...”, I assume this is Alfred, not William? It might be worth spelling that out. And a new photo, of the frontage with the statue, would be excellent - provided that you can do it without trespassing, of course! I was really pleased to help get Church of St Helen, Kilnsea listed last year. I think it’s the only Burges that wasn’t. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 21:25, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Request on 11:06:00, 8 February 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Victory2712[edit]

I would like confirmation that my edit has now made the text visible. I have removed all paragraph and double spacing. can you please advise if this is now OK for publishing? Can you see the text? We do have a general election coming in the next 3 months in Australia, and I would like to get this published for one of the candidates. Ali France is a new person on this scene and we want to make it easy for people to get information on her background. many thanks If a donation would help to expedite, please let me know. Many thanks Victory2712 (talk) 11:06, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Victory2712 - I'm no longer involved in Afc so can't help, but a reviewer will get to it soon. But a word of caution - the email you attached is as clear an indication of a Conflict of interest as I've seen, and the text is clearly promotional. I think that will, rightly, cause difficulties with your submission. And Wikipedia does not accept gratuities for publication. Best of luck - you'll need it. KJP1 (talk) 18:06, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
(talk page watcher) Victory2712, please read WP:PAID and WP:COI, as these are very important. --Tryptofish (talk) 21:52, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Princess Alice[edit]

Hi KJP1, Many thanks for your comments on the Princess Alice PR: the matter has now moved on to FAC for further consideration. If you have time or inclination, I would be grateful to hear any further comments you may have. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 17:56, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Request on 10:32:25, 21 February 2019 for assistance on AfC submission by Prakashbs2018[edit]

I just want to create ISTTM page with all proper references I have, please help me about it. Prakashbs2018 (talk) 10:32, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Prakashbs2018 - I'm afraid I'm no longer involved in Afc so can't help, but the requirements remain the same. You need to demonstrate the college's Notability by the use of a range of reliable, independent sources. These sources need to give the college reasonable coverage, and not just be passing mentions. Then you need to write the draft in a neutral, non-promotional, way. If you do this, you should be fine, If you don't, the draft is likely to be deleted again. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 17:25, 21 February 2019 (UTC)

Leslie Hylton[edit]

As you know, I'm not particularly active on Wikipedia at the moment, although I'm doing my best to ease my way back in. One article that I've been dabbling with during the past few months is Leslie Hylton, the sad story of a prewar West Indies Test cricketer who was hanged for murder in the 1950s. I've opened a Review thread on the article's talkpage, and a few of the usual suspects have added some useful comments there. I know it's not in your usual sphere of activity, but if you can see your way to reading the draft and letting me know what you think of it (spare no blushes) I'd be very grateful. In particular, does it tell the story in a way that will make sense to readers whose cricket knowledge is perhaps somewhat lacking? Your wisdom will be much welcomed. Brianboulton (talk) 22:03, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

Brianboulton - It would be my absolute pleasure and I shall get on to it this weekend. Unfortunately, this is one of those weekends when we're plagued by visitors, (yawn!), so I may run into next week. Delighted you're working up an article and very much hope that it's a sign of renewed appetite and vigour. All the very best. KJP1 (talk) 22:12, 22 February 2019 (UTC)


Happy new year old friend! You've done some marvellous writing recently, that Burges Cornwall house totally passed me by. I created Bron-y-de after a passing reference, I'm sure you'll love it. Keep turning the red pins blue! No Swan So Fine (talk) 14:35, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Swan, Great to hear from you and I hope you are keeping well. I do indeed like Bron-y-de. Such a pity we don’t have a photo, of which the same could be said of Treverbyn Vean. I’m working on the Pacific Coast version of St Donat’s now, of which I have high hopes. Sometime, Cardiff Castle must be brought up to FA. It’s an unfortunate omission from Burges’s FA oeuvre. Take care and all the best. KJP1 (talk) 16:51, 3 March 2019 (UTC)

Sissinghurst Castle Garden scheduled for TFA[edit]

This is to let you know that the Sissinghurst Castle Garden article has been scheduled as today's featured article for April 18, 2019. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 18, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so.

We also suggest that you watchlist Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors on the day before and the day of this TFA. Thanks! Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:37, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Grade II* listed buildings in Monmouthshire[edit]

Thank you for your kind words. -- KTC (talk) 10:43, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

You've got mail![edit]

Hello, KJP1. Please check your email; you've got mail! The subject is Pevsner.
Message added 15:11, 16 March 2019 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

——SerialNumber54129 15:11, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Sorry to both you, KJP1, but did this arrive? Mind you, I see you have been distracted (below) with other trivia, meantime ;) ——SerialNumber54129 17:23, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Serial Number 54129 - No bother at all. I did and thought I'd replied. Shall go and see if I messed up. If I have, I'll retry. Yes, the below was an irritant. It's incredible the way some people think it's acceptable to behave on here. KJP1 (talk) 18:02, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Whats a FAC?[edit]

First you mention but do not link to FAC. That's already a problem. Second, WP:BRD. If you'd like to discuss, feel free, but do so at the manual of style. Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:14, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Walter Görlitz - FAC is the process whereby it is determined an article becomes, or does not become, a Featured Article. In this case, the FAC included extensive discussion on the size and placing of images. If you wish to make major changes, after the article has passed FAC, it is for you to propose them on the article Talkpage and seek consensus for the changes, not the other way around. As to MoS, if you read it, you will see that it is quite permissible to stagger images and to vary their sizing. KJP1 (talk) 07:26, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Oh, you mean a feature article review. They cannot be relied on meeting any standards they have not investigated. They regularly do not meet MOS:ACCESS and many guidelines. Take it to the MoS's talk page. Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:33, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Walter Görlitz - I've explained the process as best I can. If you carry on, you will end up blocked. KJP1 (talk) 07:39, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
You've done no such thing. You've explained nothing. And now a threat. Wow. I'm sorry you have no clue about what you're doing. Walter Görlitz (talk) 07:43, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

───────────────────────── Walter Görlitz - Let me try one more time:

  • The placing and sizing of the images was discussed extensively at the FAC;
  • The article passed FAC with a range of variously-sized, staggered images;
  • This is in line with MoS, which permits such sizing and placing;
  • You altered all of the images to a standard size and placed them all to the right;
  • I reverted and asked that you discuss on the Talkpage;
  • After a pointless edit war, you sensibly self-reverted;
  • So, now you are completely at liberty to start a discussion at the Talkpage explaining why you think the changes you want should be made. If you achieve consensus, they will be made. That's the way this place works.

Have a good day. KJP1 (talk) 08:01, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

Let me try this one more time. I asked you to discuss at the manual of style. You steadfastly refused. The MoS has changed opinion over the past year, and clearly you lied you claimed it was "discussed extensively" at the FAC There was some discussion by @RexxS:, @MarchOrDie: and @Sarastro1:. I fully agree that the magnified images are a subjective preference and have nothing to do with accessibility or the MoS for images. So feel free to fix them to meed the MoS or open a discussion at the MoS. This is not about MOS:ACCESS, which was RexxS' point. Walter Görlitz (talk) 08:18, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Walter Görlitz - Can I suggest that, in future, you don't barge onto other editors' Talkpages and accuse them of knowing nothing and being liars. It's not a collegiate approach. Now, that's all from me. Goodbye. KJP1 (talk) 08:44, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
Suggestion noted. Now, if you had actually discussed in the correct location (I could have as well) we wouldn't be discussing here. As far as liars, well, don't and you won't be called one. That included not giving partial answers, incomplete answers, misleading answer or misdirection in your answers. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:18, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
(watching:) Walter, unfortunately, for some FA writers, "accessibility" is a word from a foreign language. I tried to "translate", but stopped, - waste of time. I find much more urgent work than making FAs more accessible. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:37, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Image shopping list[edit]

Nature is pressing on in its process of obscuring photographers' views. I think you may have moved away from Tintern whilst another's flash of enthusiasm passed, so are unlikely to have a wish-list of pics before buds burst. I was near Ely last week for the first time in years but the precise conditions for a pic I have planned of the ship of the fens sailing on morning mist were not there. I can more often be available in a 20 mile radius from Bron-y-de. Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 11:22, 19 March 2019 (UTC)